The Trent Richardson Thread (4 Viewers)

[tone1oc]

What a bonehead play by Richardson.

Give him a break, they didn't cover that during the bye!!!

 

[Dizzy]

I'm gonna miss this thread going forward... Assuming we'll pick it back up again if Brown gets hurt?

 

[scrumptrulescent]

What a bonehead play by Richardson.

Give him a break, they didn't cover that during the bye!!!

Sure they did. They wanted to get him in space. That was a whole lot of space he had there.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Looked good on the reception out of the backfield.

 

[Mario Kart]

Waste of space. Any bigger RB busts in recent memory? I'd think he is a bigger bust than Ingram because Ingram doesn't even have a chance to bust.

 

[humpback]

Colts are gonna struggle to score points all season. Didn't have the depth to survive the Dwayne Allen and Reggie Wayne losses.

I see this team limping into the playoffs and getting eliminated immediately.

Time to look ahead to 2014 if you've got Richardson. Very little chance he blows up this season IMO.

Breaking news.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Waste of space. Any bigger RB busts in recent memory? I'd think he is a bigger bust than Ingram because Ingram doesn't even have a chance to bust.

Monumental bust. Picked third overall and now he costed Indy a first rounder too.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

He's looked really good on these screens. Maybe they'll get more creative with him.

 

[Hilts]

Pull the plug in dynasty leagues for whatever you can still get.

 

[fruity pebbles]

He's looked really good on these screens. Maybe they'll get more creative with him.

there wasn't anyone within 5 yards of him on the 2nd one

 

[humpback]

He's looked really good on these screens. Maybe they'll get more creative with him.

Come on, that last one especially was as simple as it gets.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

He's looked really good on these screens. Maybe they'll get more creative with him.

there wasn't anyone within 5 yards of him on the 2nd one

No, but he got up to speed quickly. Much quicker than when he's choosing a hole. Which makes me think he's moving half speed behind the line and waiting for a hole, which might be a fixable issue.

But on the first screen he legitimately looked good.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

He's looked really good on these screens. Maybe they'll get more creative with him.

Come on, that last one especially was as simple as it gets.

Agreed. But it's a way to move the ball with him, and give him a chance to break tackles out in open space. There's no reason they aren't tossing him those 5 times per game.

 

[Dizzy]

He's looked really good on these screens. Maybe they'll get more creative with him.

Come on, that last one especially was as simple as it gets.

Are there bonus points for degree of difficulty?

 

[Raider Nation]

Trent's teammates should start bullying him so that he quits.

 

[humpback]

He's looked really good on these screens. Maybe they'll get more creative with him.

Come on, that last one especially was as simple as it gets.

Agreed. But it's a way to move the ball with him, and give him a chance to break tackles out in open space. There's no reason they aren't tossing him those 5 times per game.

Sure, and we say the same thing about a bunch of RBs (because chances are they'll be more effective with open space than in a crowd), but that doesn't mean he looked really good doing it.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

He's looked really good on these screens. Maybe they'll get more creative with him.

Come on, that last one especially was as simple as it gets.

Agreed. But it's a way to move the ball with him, and give him a chance to break tackles out in open space. There's no reason they aren't tossing him those 5 times per game.

Sure, and we say the same thing about a bunch of RBs (because chances are they'll be more effective with open space than in a crowd), but that doesn't mean he looked really good doing it.

He looked fine on the second one. He looked good on the first one. He does enough things poorly right now that you don't need to downplay the one or two good plays he makes to make a point. It's okay if he shows flashes of what everyone thought he was to begin with.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

He's looked really good on these screens. Maybe they'll get more creative with him.

Come on, that last one especially was as simple as it gets.

That's not fair. All RBs get plays that develop well from time to time, the important thing is that he took as much yardage as anyone could have gotten. His speed was nice on that play. Lesser RBs (don't laugh) wouldn't have gotten that much.

 

[humpback]

He's looked really good on these screens. Maybe they'll get more creative with him.

Come on, that last one especially was as simple as it gets.

Are there bonus points for degree of difficulty?

We're talking about how he looked, not his ff stats. HTH.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

He's looked really good on these screens. Maybe they'll get more creative with him.

Come on, that last one especially was as simple as it gets.

That's not fair. All RBs get plays that develop well from time to time, the important thing is that he took as much yardage as anyone could have gotten. His speed was nice on that play. Lesser RBs (don't laugh) wouldn't have gotten that much.

Exactly. When he finally does what he should and does something pretty good, there's no need to #### on it.

 

[humpback]

He's looked really good on these screens. Maybe they'll get more creative with him.

Come on, that last one especially was as simple as it gets.

Agreed. But it's a way to move the ball with him, and give him a chance to break tackles out in open space. There's no reason they aren't tossing him those 5 times per game.

Sure, and we say the same thing about a bunch of RBs (because chances are they'll be more effective with open space than in a crowd), but that doesn't mean he looked really good doing it.

He looked fine on the second one. He looked good on the first one. He does enough things poorly right now that you don't need to downplay the one or two good plays he makes to make a point. It's okay if he shows flashes of what everyone thought he was to begin with.

He literally had no one around him, caught the ball, ran up the sideline and got tackled by the first guy to meet him. There was no "flash" of anything on that play besides bad defense.

 

[humpback]

He's looked really good on these screens. Maybe they'll get more creative with him.

Come on, that last one especially was as simple as it gets.

That's not fair. All RBs get plays that develop well from time to time, the important thing is that he took as much yardage as anyone could have gotten. His speed was nice on that play. Lesser RBs (don't laugh) wouldn't have gotten that much.

Seriously, I'm not a Trent hater, but it's more like he took as little yardage as anyone could have gotten on that play. I'm not even saying it was bad, but it certainly wasn't "really good".

 

[ConnSKINS26]

He's looked really good on these screens. Maybe they'll get more creative with him.

Come on, that last one especially was as simple as it gets.

Agreed. But it's a way to move the ball with him, and give him a chance to break tackles out in open space. There's no reason they aren't tossing him those 5 times per game.

Sure, and we say the same thing about a bunch of RBs (because chances are they'll be more effective with open space than in a crowd), but that doesn't mean he looked really good doing it.

He looked fine on the second one. He looked good on the first one. He does enough things poorly right now that you don't need to downplay the one or two good plays he makes to make a point. It's okay if he shows flashes of what everyone thought he was to begin with.

He literally had no one around him, caught the ball, ran up the sideline and got tackled by the first guy to meet him. There was no "flash" of anything on that play besides bad defense.

I'm talking about the first screen pass when I talk about a "flash". Stop being obtuse, you saw it.

 

[fruity pebbles]

He's looked really good on these screens. Maybe they'll get more creative with him.

Come on, that last one especially was as simple as it gets.

That's not fair. All RBs get plays that develop well from time to time, the important thing is that he took as much yardage as anyone could have gotten. His speed was nice on that play. Lesser RBs (don't laugh) wouldn't have gotten that much.

He caught the ball. Only thing a lesser back might have done was dropped it. Other than that he ran in a straight line until he met a defender.

 

[humpback]

He's looked really good on these screens. Maybe they'll get more creative with him.

Come on, that last one especially was as simple as it gets.

Agreed. But it's a way to move the ball with him, and give him a chance to break tackles out in open space. There's no reason they aren't tossing him those 5 times per game.

Sure, and we say the same thing about a bunch of RBs (because chances are they'll be more effective with open space than in a crowd), but that doesn't mean he looked really good doing it.

He looked fine on the second one. He looked good on the first one. He does enough things poorly right now that you don't need to downplay the one or two good plays he makes to make a point. It's okay if he shows flashes of what everyone thought he was to begin with.

He literally had no one around him, caught the ball, ran up the sideline and got tackled by the first guy to meet him. There was no "flash" of anything on that play besides bad defense.

I'm talking about the first screen pass when I talk about a "flash". Stop being obtuse, you saw it.

No, actually I didn't, which is why I singled out the 2nd one. I'm looking on NFL.com and there are a lot of highlights, but none of him- must not have been all that "flashy".

Even if I take your word for it, now you're hanging your hat on one good play in the game?

 

[Mr. Retukes]

Has this thread sunk so low that you're grasping at ONE SINGLE PLAY where he showed a "flash"?

(A flash of what? Competency?)

 

[ConnSKINS26]

You guys have a reading comprehension problem? He looked good on the play and flashed. That's all I said. It's an accurate description of the play, and I commented on it in a thread full of doom and gloom. My mistake, apparently.

Because it gets interpreted as something to "hang my hat on". As if I said "HEY GUYS THAT SCREEN PASS TOTALLY REDEEMED THE TOP 10 PICK EVERYONE SPENT ON TRENT".

Jesus Christ.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Has this thread sunk so low that you're grasping at ONE SINGLE PLAY where he showed a "flash"?

(A flash of what? Competency?)

It's OK to say a guy looked good on a play when he looked good on a play.

 

[RBM]

Aren't you ####### guys bored of this already? Jeez, put all these Trent threads out of their misery.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Has this thread sunk so low that you're grasping at ONE SINGLE PLAY where he showed a "flash"?

(A flash of what? Competency?)

It's OK to say a guy looked good on a play when he looked good on a play.

Thank you. It was a ####ing observation. Not a master's thesis defense of Trent Richardson.

 

[humpback]

You guys have a reading comprehension problem? He looked good on the play and flashed. That's all I said. It's an accurate description of the play, and I commented on it in a thread full of doom and gloom. My mistake, apparently.

Because it gets interpreted as something to "hang my hat on". As if I said "HEY GUYS THAT SCREEN PASS TOTALLY REDEEMED THE TOP 10 PICK EVERYONE SPENT ON TRENT".

Jesus Christ.

You're FOS. You said he looked "really good on these screens", plural. I admittedly didn't see the 1st one, but unless it was the best 9 yard gain on a screen pass in history, he had another ####ty game. His second screen pass was as ho-hum as it gets.

You didn't even see the damn play I'm talking about, and you're telling me I'm full of ####? Come on. That's exactly what I'm talking about. It's okay that he did something good. He caught the ball, sidestepped a guy quickly, got up to speed and plowed a couple guys along the sideline. It was not an amazing display of athleticism. He didn't run a 4.1 with the ball in his hands. He didn't front flip over the defenders. It was just a good looking catch and run. As I said. He looked really good, and then looked as good as you could expect on the second one.I didn't say he didn't have a ####ty game. I said he looked really good when used in the screen game.

Stop trying to exaggerate what I'm saying into some grand stand defense of Trent. I salvaged a relevant positive that I saw. That's all. Get over it.

And you're the guy blasting others for reading comprehension? Why didn't you just say he looked really good on that one screen play? I said that I was talking about the 2nd one he caught, and if you think he looked as good as you could expect, well I guess that would be true if you don't have high expectations for him. That play was a complete yawner.

I think most people would consider tonight to be another negative for him overall, regardless of his one "good looking catch and run".

 

[kencav]

Let's face it finally including me a huge Bama fan and true believer....

Trent has been a nightmare, an f'n nightmare in fantasy and real life football

How could so many be so wrong.....I need therapy.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

You guys have a reading comprehension problem? He looked good on the play and flashed. That's all I said. It's an accurate description of the play, and I commented on it in a thread full of doom and gloom. My mistake, apparently.

Because it gets interpreted as something to "hang my hat on". As if I said "HEY GUYS THAT SCREEN PASS TOTALLY REDEEMED THE TOP 10 PICK EVERYONE SPENT ON TRENT".

Jesus Christ.

You're FOS. You said he looked "really good on these screens", plural. I admittedly didn't see the 1st one, but unless it was the best 9 yard gain on a screen pass in history, he had another ####ty game. His second screen pass was as ho-hum as it gets.

You didn't even see the damn play I'm talking about, and you're telling me I'm full of ####? Come on. That's exactly what I'm talking about. It's okay that he did something good. He caught the ball, sidestepped a guy quickly, got up to speed and plowed a couple guys along the sideline. It was not an amazing display of athleticism. He didn't run a 4.1 with the ball in his hands. He didn't front flip over the defenders. It was just a good looking catch and run. As I said. He looked really good, and then looked as good as you could expect on the second one.I didn't say he didn't have a ####ty game. I said he looked really good when used in the screen game.

Stop trying to exaggerate what I'm saying into some grand stand defense of Trent. I salvaged a relevant positive that I saw. That's all. Get over it.

And you're the guy blasting others for reading comprehension? Why didn't you just say he looked really good on that one screen play? I said that I was talking about the 2nd one he caught, and if you think he looked as good as you could expect, well I guess that would be true if you don't have high expectations for him. That play was a complete yawner.

I think most people would consider tonight to be another negative for him overall, regardless of his one "good looking catch and run".

It was absolutely another negative outing for him overall. Which has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that he looked good on the screen plays, which was the only thing I posted. You seemingly can't resist trying to make that observation something more than it was, which I should have seen coming. I'll leave you to it, I was just trying to note the small positive that I observed amongst another crappy game--because some people are still stuck with this guy, especially dynasty owners.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Let's face it finally including me a huge Bama fan and true believer....

Trent has been a nightmare, an f'n nightmare in fantasy and real life football

How could so many be so wrong.....I need therapy.

I forgive you for your words earlier. Nothing however, can be done to make up for your Bama fan and homeristic transgressions. Be well, traveler.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

This is the problem of these "argument" threads. They pit one group against each other, instead of people doing their best to make a series of observations as objectively as possible. The moment someone says a single positive (or negative) thing about a player, the other side descends upon them. It's no way to have a decent conversation.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

This is the problem of these "argument" threads. They pit one group against each other, instead of people doing their best to make a series of observations as objectively as possible. The moment someone says a single positive (or negative) thing about a player, the other side descends upon them. It's no way to have a decent conversation.

This is what happens to message boards without moderation. Every issue becomes a blood feud, rather than a topic in need of discussion. People get emotionally attached to whatever stance they hold instead of just talking about what they see or read.

 

[amnesiac]

move him while he still has some little name recognition. good luck.

 

[Bob Magaw]

This is the problem of these "argument" threads. They pit one group against each other, instead of people doing their best to make a series of observations as objectively as possible. The moment someone says a single positive (or negative) thing about a player, the other side descends upon them. It's no way to have a decent conversation.

This is what happens to message boards without moderation. Every issue becomes a blood feud, rather than a topic in need of discussion. People get emotionally attached to whatever stance they hold instead of just talking about what they see or read.

please report objectionable posts as you notice them, that will bring them to the attention of the mods.

 

[munygon2]

I can probably drop him in a 12 team league and he'll still be out there after waivers clear this week. Terrible production week after week.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Well after 9 weeks, we've got him looking good on a screen play. Baby steps.

 

[cstu]

Anyone not thinking he's a bust right now is in complete denial.

 

[Sabertooth]

Yeah not sure what the hell happened here. I don't ever recall a player so universally lauded as a stud that failed so quickly and miserably. That being sad, have the Colts lost a game since he's been there?

 

[cstu]

Yeah not sure what the hell happened here. I don't ever recall a player so universally lauded as a stud that failed so quickly and miserably. That being sad, have the Colts lost a game since he's been there?

5-1 with Richardson. The fact that they desperately needed a RB is why I'm not ready to call this a bad trade by them. However, they probably could have got somebody just as effective for less (Leshoure?).

 

[Sabertooth]

The upshot is Irsay has been pretty quiet since this trade.

 

[voiceofunreason]

Yeah not sure what the hell happened here. I don't ever recall a player so universally lauded as a stud that failed so quickly and miserably. That being sad, have the Colts lost a game since he's been there?

5-1 with Richardson. The fact that they desperately needed a RB is why I'm not ready to call this a bad trade by them. However, they probably could have got somebody just as effective for less (Leshoure?).

What if they could have gotten Gordon for the same pick?

 

[pantherclub]

Yeah not sure what the hell happened here. I don't ever recall a player so universally lauded as a stud that failed so quickly and miserably. That being sad, have the Colts lost a game since he's been there?

5-1 with Richardson. The fact that they desperately needed a RB is why I'm not ready to call this a bad trade by them. However, they probably could have got somebody just as effective for less (Leshoure?).

What if they could have gotten Gordon for the same pick?

Not to rehash an old argument but there is not one GM in the NFL that would trade a first round pick for Josh Gordon. Especially seeing what just happened with Blackmon. Those types of dudes get seem to stay out of trouble

 

[voiceofunreason]

Colts are gonna struggle to score points all season. Didn't have the depth to survive the Dwayne Allen and Reggie Wayne losses.

I see this team limping into the playoffs and getting eliminated immediately.

Time to look ahead to 2014 if you've got Richardson. Very little chance he blows up this season IMO.

You're right that they don't have much left. You are wrong in what it means. This is the time a good rb will help a team and get his chance to carry the offense. If he can't put up numbers now,

 

[fruity pebbles]

Yeah not sure what the hell happened here. I don't ever recall a player so universally lauded as a stud that failed so quickly and miserably. That being sad, have the Colts lost a game since he's been there?

5-1 with Richardson. The fact that they desperately needed a RB is why I'm not ready to call this a bad trade by them. However, they probably could have got somebody just as effective for less (Leshoure?).

Ingram

 

[Da Guru]

The upshot is Irsay has been pretty quiet since this trade.

Have not heard much from Mike Holmgren as a late.

 

[FUBAR]

Anyone not thinking he's a bust right now is in complete denial.

I'm still wandering around in Egypt.

It's as if he doesn't want to play football. Maybe that changes?