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The Trent Richardson Thread (8 Viewers)

ldizzle said:
James Daulton said:
Sweetness_34 said:
I am on TRich supporter, but look at this properly....54 would have got him. Still think he should have gone through that hole.

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lol, if he can't make one guy miss or run him over he doesn't belong in the league. Vision of a blind man.
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he was too busy trying to follow the lead blocker instead of trying to find a hole. He will take what's given and sometimes less
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That play speaks to horrible vision.

 
Faust said:
Trent Richardson appears to be in midseason form for Raiders:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25271540/trent-richardson-appears-to-be-in-midseason-form-for-raiders
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By far the funniest thing about that headline is that CBS is a mainstream reporting organization - they're not catering to year-round fantasy diehards - so the only way they would ever think about using it is if they assumed even every casual NFL fan already knows how terrible he is.

It's breathtaking, really.

 
James Daulton said:
Sweetness_34 said:
I am on TRich supporter, but look at this properly....54 would have got him. Still think he should have gone through that hole.

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lol, if he can't make one guy miss or run him over he doesn't belong in the league. Vision of a blind man.
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Exactly. One LB and the WR had the S blocked. Any proficient RB turns that into a TD. Gigantic hole, the ones RBs dream about, should be a TD.
 
Mr. Irrelevant said:
Faust said:
Trent Richardson appears to be in midseason form for Raiders:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25271540/trent-richardson-appears-to-be-in-midseason-form-for-raiders
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By far the funniest thing about that headline is that CBS is a mainstream reporting organization - they're not catering to year-round fantasy diehards - so the only way they would ever think about using it is if they assumed even every casual NFL fan already knows how terrible he is.

It's breathtaking, really.
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A 4th year RB has no business running like that.

 
cstu said:
Mr. Irrelevant said:
Faust said:
Trent Richardson appears to be in midseason form for Raiders:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25271540/trent-richardson-appears-to-be-in-midseason-form-for-raiders
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By far the funniest thing about that headline is that CBS is a mainstream reporting organization - they're not catering to year-round fantasy diehards - so the only way they would ever think about using it is if they assumed even every casual NFL fan already knows how terrible he is.

It's breathtaking, really.
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A 4th year RB has no business running like that.
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That one play is a case study on how a 3rd overall draft pick can be traded after his rookie year, be released and be on his 3rd team as a let's see what we found in the trash. At least the hype train that was still around last Fall is gone now. Still amazes me how this guy was considered the next AP and was in the discussion of the #1 overall dynasty player after his rookie year.

Well, at least he can still force the 8 men in the box so Carr will be able to find Cooper. ;)

 
stbugs said:
cstu said:
Mr. Irrelevant said:
Faust said:
Trent Richardson appears to be in midseason form for Raiders:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25271540/trent-richardson-appears-to-be-in-midseason-form-for-raiders
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By far the funniest thing about that headline is that CBS is a mainstream reporting organization - they're not catering to year-round fantasy diehards - so the only way they would ever think about using it is if they assumed even every casual NFL fan already knows how terrible he is.It's breathtaking, really.
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A 4th year RB has no business running like that.
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That one play is a case study on how a 3rd overall draft pick can be traded after his rookie year, be released and be on his 3rd team as a let's see what we found in the trash. At least the hype train that was still around last Fall is gone now. Still amazes me how this guy was considered the next AP and was in the discussion of the #1 overall dynasty player after his rookie year.Well, at least he can still force the 8 men in the box so Carr will be able to find Cooper. ;)
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Cold. Just cold. Lol.
 
Dr. Octopus said:
JohnnyU said:
WW fodder. He was finally dropped in one of my leagues. I expect that to happen in more leagues very soon.
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Why would you drop him now before we see his "lots of work" in the preseason? With his drop in weight he could look better than he has the last two seasons. Obviously he's still a long shot, but dropping him now after holding through his dreck season seems a little foolish.
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I never said I dropped him, but I wouldn't be hard on myself if it was me.

 
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Rotoworld:

ESPN Raiders reporter Bill Williamson says Trent Richardson is on the roster bubble.

Despite getting $600,000 guaranteed in the two-year deal he signed in March, Richardson appears to be in real danger of losing his job to undrafted rookie Michael Dyer. Richardson has just 23 yards on 10 preseason carries.

Related: Michael Dyer

Source: ESPN

Aug 29 - 12:51 PM
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It is being reported on ESPN that Trent Richardson has been cut from the Raiders.

In a move that shocks precisely NO ONE in the fantasy community.

I think its just hitting social media.

TZM

 
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TZMarkie said:
It is being reported on ESPN that Trent Richardson has been cut from the Raiders.

In a move that shocks precisely NO ONE in the fantasy community.

I think its just hitting social media.

TZM
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The shock is that people still own him in the fantasy community. My god how fast they fall. I remember offering McCoy (after his monster year), 1.07 and my 2014 first for Julio and 1.01 so I could draft Richardson. Man I am glad that got turned down.

 
It was sad watching him out there in the dying minutes of the 4th quarter last night. He had a few plays throughout the game where he got the ball in space and tried to make a juke, but was still brought down by the first tackler. I'll never quite understand what happened here. He was awesome at Bama and looked like the total package. Probably the most shocking bust I've ever seen. At least with Charles Rogers and Justin Blackmon you knew that it wasn't all football related. Trent just looks like a different human entirely compared with 2009-2010.

 
The real mystery is how did Cleveland, the most mismanaged team of he last decade, manage to get a first from Indy for a guy they just knew was a bust?

 
Insein said:
The real mystery is how did Cleveland, the most mismanaged team of he last decade, manage to get a first from Indy for a guy they just knew was a bust?
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:lol: it wasn't all that long ago that a bunch of people were caterwauling how badly CLE got ripped off in that deal.

 
I still remember trading for him in his rookie year, right before the season started, and being super happy with the deal by years end. It just goes to show you how important volume is for RBs.. dude finished RB7 that year. :lol:

 
Man I saw him play UF when he was at Bama. About 20 rows up. I was floored at how good he was. You just never know I guess.

 
Different sport entirely, obviously, but it seems like he has the same issue as some race car drivers that constantly find themselves in the middle of a wreck; a lack of ability to see far enough ahead to avoid contact. Don't know if it's a lack of peripheral vision, or just looking at what's 3 feet in front of him rather than what's 20 feet in front of him. Maybe a specialist can help him, I don't know. Shame that the talent he displayed in college seems to have vanished.

 
Sometimes everybody is just wrong. He's a cautionary tale for sure. All these experts and draftniks aren't able to predict the future any better than ham and eggers like myself.

 
Capella said:
Man I saw him play UF when he was at Bama. About 20 rows up. I was floored at how good he was. You just never know I guess.
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That is more a result of running behind an online consisting entirely of 5 star recruits. The past few Bama RBs have really been a mixed bag. Ingram has disappointed but still has a pulse. Rich is a bust and Lacy has been a stud. My guess is that Yeldon ends up more along the Ingram/TRich side of the spectrum. But that is just a guess.

 
bakes said:
Different sport entirely, obviously, but it seems like he has the same issue as some race car drivers that constantly find themselves in the middle of a wreck; a lack of ability to see far enough ahead to avoid contact. Don't know if it's a lack of peripheral vision, or just looking at what's 3 feet in front of him rather than what's 20 feet in front of him. Maybe a specialist can help him, I don't know. Shame that the talent he displayed in college seems to have vanished.
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I don't even think vision is the big problem. He is just sluggish and unexplosive. No burst. He can't beat a man 1v1 and isn't fast anymore. Watching the game last night, they put him in position to make plays on a few different occasions and he just couldn't deliver. Couldn't break the first tackle ever. It was sad to see, but not shocking given the way the last few years have gone for him.

I'll never understand why he flopped so hard, but I don't attribute his draft slot to the Bama OL. If you think that NFL front offices are remotely competent, you have to assume that they have a pretty good ability to separate a player's ability from his situation. Hence why even when they get fooled by a Montee Ball or Terrance Williams, they still don't invest a top 5 pick in him. I think if you had polled most Bama fans ~2011, all of them would've said Richardson was better than Lacy or Ingram. I felt he was much better at the time. He was picked significantly higher than those two. For whatever reason, it didn't materialize. He showed flashes as a rookie, but since then it's basically been a steady downward spiral.

Is that down to vision? Like I said, I don't think so. These days he looks heavy and sluggish, like he's running in mud. How many 20+ yard runs does he have in his NFL career? Maybe 4-5, on 614 carries. Doug Martin has probably had individual games with more than that, and he's had an inconsistent career. When Trent hits the gas pedal, nothing happens. It's jarring watching him run and then flipping over to someone with some real juice. The difference is very clear these days.

 
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Bronco Billy said:
Insein said:
The real mystery is how did Cleveland, the most mismanaged team of he last decade, manage to get a first from Indy for a guy they just knew was a bust?
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:lol: it wasn't all that long ago that a bunch of people were caterwauling how badly CLE got ripped off in that deal.
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I was definitely in that boat. Incredible what has happened.

 
Army Eye said:
Bronco Billy said:
Insein said:
The real mystery is how did Cleveland, the most mismanaged team of he last decade, manage to get a first from Indy for a guy they just knew was a bust?
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:lol: it wasn't all that long ago that a bunch of people were caterwauling how badly CLE got ripped off in that deal.
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I was definitely in that boat. Incredible what has happened.
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As a Brown's fan, I was shocked when it happened, but happy. Never thought he looked special at all at any point during his rookie year.

 
EBF said:
bakes said:
Different sport entirely, obviously, but it seems like he has the same issue as some race car drivers that constantly find themselves in the middle of a wreck; a lack of ability to see far enough ahead to avoid contact. Don't know if it's a lack of peripheral vision, or just looking at what's 3 feet in front of him rather than what's 20 feet in front of him. Maybe a specialist can help him, I don't know. Shame that the talent he displayed in college seems to have vanished.
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I don't even think vision is the big problem. He is just sluggish and unexplosive. No burst. He can't beat a man 1v1 and isn't fast anymore. Watching the game last night, they put him in position to make plays on a few different occasions and he just couldn't deliver. Couldn't break the first tackle ever. It was sad to see, but not shocking given the way the last few years have gone for him.

I'll never understand why he flopped so hard, but I don't attribute his draft slot to the Bama OL. If you think that NFL front offices are remotely competent, you have to assume that they have a pretty good ability to separate a player's ability from his situation. Hence why even when they get fooled by a Montee Ball or Terrance Williams, they still don't invest a top 5 pick in him. I think if you had polled most Bama fans ~2011, all of them would've said Richardson was better than Lacy or Ingram. I felt he was much better at the time. He was picked significantly higher than those two. For whatever reason, it didn't materialize. He showed flashes as a rookie, but since then it's basically been a steady downward spiral.

Is that down to vision? Like I said, I don't think so. These days he looks heavy and sluggish, like he's running in mud. How many 20+ yard runs does he have in his NFL career? Maybe 4-5, on 614 carries. Doug Martin has probably had individual games with more than that, and he's had an inconsistent career. When Trent hits the gas pedal, nothing happens. It's jarring watching him run and then flipping over to someone with some real juice. The difference is very clear these days.
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Interesting post - unlike a lot of the wannabe-funny stuff, desperate to get one last forum laugh.

He did look better than both Ingram and Lacy in college; it's not just Bama fans that would subscribe to this view. More than that, the NFL scouts unanimously voted him top RB pick and every draftnik talked him up at some point. Yeah, people disagreed on whether an RB is worth a top-5 pick, but every soul expected Richardson to at least challenge for AP-lite status. (On that note, I would love to see the experts from this thread show me how they predicted this outcome in Richardson's first 18 NFL months. Anyone? Thought so. If you did, hats off to your scouting prowess, but for the rest - very easy to talk now, isn't it?)

Agree that the problem is not really vision. It might have been at the beginning in Cleveland, but afterwards it was clearly a purely 'physical' problem foremost. When you can't blow up through a hole or make a single tackler miss in space, then vision won't really help you much.

Is it body weight? He didn't look that fat last night and I find it hardly plausible that he somehow stayed lean in college, but then couldn't in the NFL. He is not old enough to have old-age metabolism problems. Is it lack of practice? Could be...he did miss a lot of practice for a whole host of bizarre reasons. Yet, I don't recall anyone calling him lazy or unmotivated. Or is it some type of mental disorder? His dumb public statements aside, he did have a few mysterious "accidents" both with the Colts and Raiders.

I am guessing some combination of all-of-the-above. I am hoping to hear more inside accounts as time passes. Richardson should be one of the seminal case study for young talent on how to fail in the NFL, and for us fantasy folk, a great challenge that could help us predict FF success better. If you had the foresight to trade Richardson early during his first year, even if only at the dynasty market rate, you likely are dominating your league today

 
INSIDE INFO ON 'BAMA BACKS.......they need elite offenses

Lacy ended up in an elite offense, or else he'd suffer the same fate as other overrated 'Bama backs.

Imagine Lacy with the Browns...loooool. That fat #### wouldn't break 900 yards there.

Ingram or Richardson in the Packers offense? = Lacy at minimum

 
The Gator said:
INSIDE INFO ON 'BAMA BACKS.......they need elite offenses

Lacy ended up in an elite offense, or else he'd suffer the same fate as other overrated 'Bama backs.

Imagine Lacy with the Browns...loooool. That fat #### wouldn't break 900 yards there.

Ingram or Richardson in the Packers offense? = Lacy at minimum
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Haha, no.

 
The Gator said:
INSIDE INFO ON 'BAMA BACKS.......they need elite offenses

Lacy ended up in an elite offense, or else he'd suffer the same fate as other overrated 'Bama backs.

Imagine Lacy with the Browns...loooool. That fat #### wouldn't break 900 yards there.

Ingram or Richardson in the Packers offense? = Lacy at minimum
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Ingram hasn't been in an elite offense?

 
Dr. Octopus said:
The Gator said:
INSIDE INFO ON 'BAMA BACKS.......they need elite offenses

Lacy ended up in an elite offense, or else he'd suffer the same fate as other overrated 'Bama backs.

Imagine Lacy with the Browns...loooool. That fat #### wouldn't break 900 yards there.

Ingram or Richardson in the Packers offense? = Lacy at minimum
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Ingram hasn't been in an elite offense?
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<deleted> ... Misread Dr. O's post.

 
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He may not make 110 pages after all. - He still conned Oak out of $600K, and I still say that was a ripoff and unnecessary, wasted money.

 
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