The Trump Years- Every day something more shocking than the last! (8 Viewers)

[Hilts]

He's staying home to deal with Syria? With Bolton aboard and Trump desperately needing a deflection, how long until we start bombing Syria?

 

[roadkill1292]

Consider the source.  Reality is much closer to 0.5%

An award-winning investigative newspaper doesn't work like the right wing media does. There is no equivalency. The nation's ultra conservative wing has looked bad under the light of professional reporting because of its actions, not because of any bias.

 

[eurotrashman]

An award-winning investigative newspaper doesn't work like the right wing media does. There is no equivalency. 

Good luck trying to get this message through.

 

[Skoo]

Consider the source.  Reality is much closer to 0.5%

Well since we're just making stuff up, I say it's closer to 500%!

 

[roadkill1292]

Good luck trying to get this message through.

The descent of a large portion of the electorate into perpetual disbelief of reality has been pretty amazing to observe. And one way it's really gotten crazy has been this thinking that Fox or Gateway Pundit just throwing crap out there that they think their viewers/readers want to see/read is the exact same thing as WaPo sending teams of skilled reporters to investigate the actions of those in governmental power.

 

[Sheriff Bart]

I understand that but the process of removing a president from office takes a huge toll on the country and will only further divide us.   It took years for the country to heal after Watergate.  I wasn't a big fan of Reagan but he did manage to pull the country to together again.

As big as he is we could make so much glue out of him that we could keep pangea together again. 

 

[squistion]

In the 135 days since the Trump admin took control of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, it has not recorded a single enforcement action against banks, credit card companies, debt collectors or any finance companies whatsoever, AP finds.

https://apnews.com/c80a20db4a5942e7af9632b0cbf75700/Enforcement-actions-at-watchdog-agency-halt-under-Trump

 

[packersfan]

File this one under Good luck with that:

Joe Weisenthal‏ @TheStalwart 6m6 minutes ago

Joe Weisenthal Retweeted Adam Goldman

"Mr. Trump’s advisers have spent the last 24 hours trying to convince the president not to make an impulsive decision... "

 

[sho nuff]

The descent of a large portion of the electorate into perpetual disbelief of reality has been pretty amazing to observe. And one way it's really gotten crazy has been this thinking that Fox or Gateway Pundit just throwing crap out there that they think their viewers/readers want to see/read is the exact same thing as WaPo sending teams of skilled reporters to investigate the actions of those in governmental power.

But hey...CNN retracted that story once and fired 3 guys because it was "fake news"...never mind that the story actually was true and they were fired only for policy issues on sourcing and none of the story was actually fake...but hey...fake news!!!!

 

[roadkill1292]

File this one under Good luck with that:

Joe Weisenthal‏ @TheStalwart 6m6 minutes ago

Joe Weisenthal Retweeted Adam Goldman

"Mr. Trump’s advisers have spent the last 24 hours trying to convince the president not to make an impulsive decision... "

"Stand back! He's going to blow!"

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

File this one under Good luck with that:

Joe Weisenthal‏ @TheStalwart 6m6 minutes ago

Joe Weisenthal Retweeted Adam Goldman

"Mr. Trump’s advisers have spent the last 24 hours trying to convince the president not to make an impulsive decision... "

They should show him today's equity market performance and tell him to keep quiet today until they close, and then to take credit for it. 

 

[Cowboysfan8]

He purchases the Playboy mansion and makes it into his Presidential library.  Melania divorces him, and he spends the rest of his days wearing a red silk robe and popping Viagra.

We all should be so lucky to go out like this. 

 

[knowledge dropper]

An award-winning investigative newspaper doesn't work like the right wing media does. There is no equivalency. The nation's ultra conservative wing has looked bad under the light of professional reporting because of its actions, not because of any bias.

So in a poll of 1850 Americans by a source that has repeatedly proven to have a bias against our President you are going to extrapolate 65 million people have actively protested since Trump was elected?

 So silly.  

 

[sho nuff]

So in a poll of 1850 Americans by a source that has repeatedly proven to have a bias against our President you are going to extrapolate 65 million people have actively protested since Trump was elected?

 So silly.  

They have not been proven to have any bias agaisnt the President.

 

[sho nuff]

This is what I imagine everyday with Trump is like. Except with Big Macs.

Buscemi = Pence?

 

[Cowboysfan8]

So in a poll of 1850 Americans you are going to extrapolate 65 million people have actively protested since Trump was elected?

I'm not buying this "1 in 5 have protested in the streets or participated in political rallies since the beginning of 2016" either

 

[squistion]

Tim O'Brien‏Verified account @TimOBrien 2h2 hours ago

Don't lose sight of important @Fahrenthold scoop amid Syria, Cohen and Facebook deluge:

Trump Org lawyers wrote Panama's president, asking him to intervene in fight over POTUS's Trump International Hotel there — and warned of “repercussions” if he didn't

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/warning-of-repercussions-trump-company-lawyers-seek-panama-presidents-help/2018/04/09/9e3fbb8e-3c2f-11e8-8d53-eba0ed2371cc_story.html?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.3cd58496690a

 

[Skoo]

So in a poll of 1850 Americans by a source that has repeatedly proven to have a bias against our President you are going to extrapolate 65 million people have actively protested since Trump was elected?

 So silly.  

I'm not buying this "1 in 5 have protested in the streets or participated in political rallies since the beginning of 2016" either

Ok, so what facts do you have to dispute the claim?

 

[knowledge dropper]

I'm not buying this "1 in 5 have protested in the streets or participated in political rallies since the beginning of 2016" either

Yeah. It’s garbage

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Ok, so what facts do you have to dispute the claim?

I just polled about 20 ppl at work and 0 have protested or participated in a political rally since 2016.

Seems dumb right? So does polling 1850 people and saying the national # is 65 million. Imo

 

[knowledge dropper]

Ok, so what facts do you have to dispute the claim?

Two eyes and common sense.   That’s more than enough. 

 

[sho nuff]

I just polled about 20 ppl at work and 0 have protested or participated in a political rally since 2016.

Seems dumb right? So does polling 1850 people and saying the national # is 65 million. Imo

Yes...it does seem dumb to think that your "20" people you didn't actually poll would be a statistically valid population to sample from and extrapolate results.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Yes...it does seem dumb to think that your "20" people you didn't actually poll would be a statistically valid population to sample from and extrapolate results.

But a poll of 1850 = 65 million Americans is believable?

Stop it

 

[badmojo1006]

Can we close this thread?

 

[squistion]

I just polled about 20 ppl at work and 0 have protested or participated in a political rally since 2016.

Seems dumb right? So does polling 1850 people and saying the national # is 65 million. Imo

Well, I guess that settles it...

 

[Skoo]

Two eyes and common sense.   That’s more than enough. 

Hmmmmm.....facts or random guy on the internet's gut feeling......that's a tough one.

 

[Skoo]

But a poll of 1850 = 65 million Americans is believable?

Stop it

How many people do you think are generally contacted for a poll like this?

 

[Banger]

Tim O'Brien‏Verified account @TimOBrien 2h2 hours ago

Don't lose sight of important @Fahrenthold scoop amid Syria, Cohen and Facebook deluge:

Trump Org lawyers wrote Panama's president, asking him to intervene in fight over POTUS's Trump International Hotel there — and warned of “repercussions” if he didn't

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/warning-of-repercussions-trump-company-lawyers-seek-panama-presidents-help/2018/04/09/9e3fbb8e-3c2f-11e8-8d53-eba0ed2371cc_story.html?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.3cd58496690a

what would be a major story for any other rational administration doesn't even get a mention...

 

[sho nuff]

But a poll of 1850 = 65 million Americans is believable?

Stop it

Id have to look at the methodology...but statistically speaking...yes.  Its possible to be a statistically valid poll with 1850 people.

Your asking 20 people from one source of "at work" is very likely to not be close to representative of the population in order for it to be extrapolated to the overall population.

 

[sho nuff]

Hmmmmm.....facts or random Trump Supporting guy on the internet's gut feeling......that's a tough one.

FYP

 

[Skoo]

President's Job Approval polls:

Rasmussen  - 1500 people

Gallup - 1500

Reuters - 1519

Economist - 1340

Welp, there goes that talking point.

 

[sho nuff]

what would be a major story for any other rational administration doesn't even get a mention...

Most corrupt ever!!!

 

[sho nuff]

President's Job Approval polls:

Rasmussen  - 1500 people

Gallup - 1500

Reuters - 1519

Economist - 1340

Welp, there goes that talking point.

That talking point was gone the minute he said it.  There seems to be a large lack of understanding about polling and statistical analysis (that much was shown through the discussion of polling prior to the election).

 

[knowledge dropper]

I just polled about 20 ppl at work and 0 have protested or participated in a political rally since 2016.

Seems dumb right? So does polling 1850 people and saying the national # is 65 million. Imo

In their defense if you conduct your poll at Whole Foods or a hacky sack tournament you probably get different and more desired results.  

 

[apalmer]

So in a poll of 1850 Americans by a source that has repeatedly proven to have a bias against our President you are going to extrapolate 65 million people have actively protested since Trump was elected?

 So silly.  

Well, if that's what the article said, it would be silly. The trouble is, that's not what it says.   

One in five Americans have protested in the streets or participated in political rallies since the beginning of 2016.

Note 1: "since the beginning of 2016" is not "since Trump was elected".
Note 2: "protested in the streets or participated in political rallies" is not "actively protested".

If we are to believe our president, 50 or 60 million people have attended his rallies since the beginning of 2016.  It won't take much to get the rest.

 

[eurotrashman]

In the 135 days since the Trump admin took control of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, it has not recorded a single enforcement action against banks, credit card companies, debt collectors or any finance companies whatsoever, AP finds.

https://apnews.com/c80a20db4a5942e7af9632b0cbf75700/Enforcement-actions-at-watchdog-agency-halt-under-Trump

Yea...that equifax breach was nothing big.

 

[eurotrashman]

Surprising that they lied.  Hmmmmmm.

https://www.apnews.com/0a7f4390485a41588e6515f355262257/Dems:-No-evidence-of-credible-threats-against-EPA's-Pruitt

 

[eurotrashman]

I just polled about 20 ppl at work and 0 have protested or participated in a political rally since 2016.

Seems dumb right? So does polling 1850 people and saying the national # is 65 million. Imo

i'm sure people are completely honest with you at work about politics.  

 

[McJose]

But a poll of 1850 = 65 million Americans is believable?

Stop it

A sample size of 1000 is perfectly acceptable.   This is basic statistics.  

 

[sho nuff]

A sample size of 1000 is perfectly acceptable.   This is basic statistics.  

But he said "Stop it"

 

[Zow]

My bad. I should know by now that Pro America/Pro Trump posts are unwelcome.  

These are not mutually inclusive. 

 

[Zow]

But a poll of 1850 = 65 million Americans is believable?

Stop it

Shirley, you can't be serious...

 

[Sinn Fein]

Shirley, you can't be serious...

He is serious, and please stop calling him Shirley.

 

[roadkill1292]

These are not mutually inclusive. 

Yeah, that post bothered me, too. I think we're all pro-America, though we may have different ways of showing it.

 

[Gr00vus]

These are not mutually inclusive. 

Actually they're pretty much mutually exclusive.

 

[knowledge dropper]

These are not mutually inclusive. 

Anyone that claims Uganda, Paraguay, Iceland and Luxembourg have supplanted the US in terms of world leadership is obviously not Pro-America.  

 

[Zow]

Anyone that claims Uganda, Paraguay, Iceland and Luxembourg have supplanted the US in terms of world leadership is obviously not Pro-America.  

Are you saying that anybody who isn't Pro-Trump also isn't Pro-America?

 

[Cowboysfan8]

A sample size of 1000 is perfectly acceptable.   This is basic statistics.  

Ok

I still don't buy that 65 million Americans have protested in the streets or participated in a political rally since '16

 

[knowledge dropper]

Are you saying that anybody who isn't Pro-Trump also isn't Pro-America?

Not all, but I can safely say the pro-Trump people I know seem to be more patriotic. 

 

[McJose]

Ok

I still don't buy that 65 million Americans have protested in the streets or participated in a political rally since '16