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Thomas Jones to return earlier than expected? (1 Viewer)

I think the debate is approrpiate for this thread, sinc ethat is where it evolved - that said, I saw somewhere that Jones practiced today (sorry, no link), but it was unclear how heavy a load he took.I think how he responds to practicing, and whether he is limited in practice Friday and Saturday or is able to go full tilt, will have more to say on how much of aload he'll have Sunday.If he is able to play, IMO, he starts. But if he is limited, I htink he could be spelled fairly often.

 
Which of course explains why A Thomas has a 20+ yd carry every 40 carries in his career, whereas Jones has a 20+ yd carry every 77 carries.  Because Thomas is slow.  I'd say that you haven't seen Thomas run enough if you are actually putting forth that claim.
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being from Ann Arbour Michigan myself i never saw him :rolleyes: he isnt fast. his correct 40 was posted earlier.

he is a power back best utilized from a power I formation. something the Bears do not run frequently.

from the holes he ran thru the last 2 weeks even Shea stated the ground game was a worry spot from the 2.7 average. u can "include" the 41 yard scamper all you wish but Anthony Thomas is not and will not be the better back in Chicago. when a team brings a FA RB in to fit its style of offense the previous RB with a different style automaticaly is better?

nope

And do you really want to raise the tortured "if you ignore his one long run" argument here?  At this board?  You must not post here much, if you are trying to push that, because it doesn't wash no matter which RB you are talking about.
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i'm not the one pushign that issue it came STRAIGHT out of Terry Shea's mouth.these new Atrain bandwagon builders want to disect Thomas Jones now and discount his 3 superb games with Grossman and say he sucked with Johnathan Quinn? lol... keep digging(not sayin ghtis is you but in general)

and i have been a avid and frequent poster here since 03' much longer then you. if u want to raise that question(i have no idea why)

how about 2-0 with Thomas vs 1-2 with Jones behind Grossman?
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yup u got me... they lost cause of these stats:329 yrds 5.0 ypc 4 TD's 14rec 116yrds - TJ's stats with grossman

208 yrds 3.9ypc 2TD's 5rec 51yrds 1lost fumble-Atrains stats with Krenzel

yup TJ was the problem and why Chicago went 1-2 :rolleyes:

do you know why TJ puts up better stats? cause the offense is suited for him thats why they brought him in plain and simple. :popcorn:

 
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How did Jones respond after a couple of days of practice? Like the rest of his owners, I would like to start him this week if he can go.

 
do you know why TJ puts up better stats?
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:yes: Because he is the better running back.
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That depends on what you want in a RB....TJ could be very explosive in the Colts, Rams offense where Thomas wouldn't.Thomas is more of the Ricky, S. Davis mold and can pound the ball with the best of them.It is just a matter of what type of scheme your team wants to utilize....TJ the better back? If you go on career totals, Thomas blows Jones away, but it is nice to see Jones get his opportunity to shine. I like both RB's and Chicago's scheme seems to favor Jones' style and skills, Thomas is a steady 1000 yd back and the team that acquires him next year will be getting a proven NFL RB."Apples & Oranges" "Apples & Oranges" :hophead: "Apples & Oranges" "Apples & Oranges"
 
Getting back to the question at hand, the Chicago Tribune thinks that Jones won't play, but nothing definitive:------------------Jones likely to miss 3rd straight game By David HaughTribune staff reporterNovember 11, 2004, 11:10 PM CSTAs any defensive player who has played against Bears running back Thomas Jones can attest, he can be hard to pin down.That goes for Jones' speaking as well as his running.Jones deftly avoided clarifying Thursday whether he would play Sunday, referring reporters to the injury report on which he is listed as questionable.But all indications pointed to Jones missing his third straight game with a sprained toe."I'd like to play the whole game if I'm healthy, but if I'm not 100 percent or at least 85 percent, it doesn't make much sense to go out there and reaggravate something," Jones said.Coach Lovie Smith who reacts to questions about injuries as if they are invasion of privacy, sounded resigned to taking on the Titans without Jones."We won't bring anybody back [unless] they're as close to 100 percent as possible and they're able to play," Smith said. "It does help to have a running back like Anthony [Thomas], who has averaged more than 100 yards." Copyright © 2004, The Chicago Tribune

 
Any word if he practiced today? I really need him in the line-up this week with LT on bye. I am really scraping the barrel for my second rb without him.

 
Any word if he practiced today? I really need him in the line-up this week with LT on bye. I am really scraping the barrel for my second rb without him.
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It's not even noon in Chicago, so we won't know until much later. But I wouldn't put much hope in him playing, much less getting a lot of touches.I'm making other plans myself. :(
 
Bumping this back up to page 1. As mentioned in the blogger, things aren't looking as good for Jones today. The Chicago Tribune article is quoted above by zamboni.We're looking for a practice update guys.tia

 
just read on the blogger, that TJ is not due back this week also.Mods should change the thread title to Thomas Jones likely not back this week.. to keep people informed

 
just read on the blogger, that TJ is not due back this week also.Mods should change the thread title to Thomas Jones likely not back this week.. to keep people informed
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How the hell can he NOT be back, hasnt he practiced the last 2 days? :confused:
 
just read on the blogger, that TJ is not due back this week also.Mods should change the thread title to Thomas Jones likely not back this week.. to keep people informed
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How the hell can he NOT be back, hasnt he practiced the last 2 days? :confused:
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It's the new trend in the NFL. Guys like DJax and CBrown don't practice all week then they go for a c-note and 2 TD's....TJ works all during the week and then takes Sunday off.Just hope that TJ is declared out long before starting lin-ups are due, its the most we can ask for at this point.
 
I have the feeling we'll see a split backfield this weekend. Jones is practicing, but Lovie is closed mouth about his condiction - keeps saying " we are trying to get him ready."

 
I have the feeling we'll see a split backfield this weekend. Jones is practicing, but Lovie is closed mouth about his condition - keeps saying " we are trying to get him ready."
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Well, I imagine it will clear up with this evening's injury report. Let's wait and see and hope there's either an upgrade or downgrade. Good news depending on who you own. ;)
 
Per KFFL Jones did not practice Friday! And now he's a GTD!

Bears | Jones Sits Out Practice, Questionable for Week 10 - from www.KFFL.com

Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:45:29 -0800

Chicago Bears RB Thomas Jones (toe) did not practice Friday, Nov. 12, and will be a game-time decision for Week 10. Jones is listed as questionable.
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Updated Bear Injury Report:LB Urlacher, Brian Probable Hamstring

RB Jones, Thomas Questionable Toe (No change in status)

S Gray, Bobby Doubtful Groin

CB Tillman, Charles Out Knee

LB Reese, Marcus Out Foot

Missed Practice: Gray, Jones, Reese, Tillman

Removed: DT Boone (Back), G Brown (Knee), QB Krenzel (Left Side), C Kreutz (Elbow), CB McMillon (Back), DE Ogunleye (Lower Leg)

 
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The latest from CBS - while they aren't reliable, at least they cite a source:

Thomas Jones, RB CHINews: The Chicago Sun-Times reports Thomas Jones (foot) did not practice again on Friday and is listed as questionable for Week 10. Analysis: When coach Lovie Smith saw a commuter train speed by during an interview, he seemed to imply that Jones wouldn't play when he said, "We hope [Anthony Thomas] is running like that Sunday."
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Ren
 
FROM ESPN - THE LAST UPDATE I COULD FINDThough Jones (foot) was able to practice again Thursday, all indications point to the running back missing Sunday's game at Tennessee, the Chicago Tribune reports."I'd like to play the whole game if I'm healthy, but if I'm not 100 percent or at least 85 percent, it doesn't make much sense to go out there and reaggravate something," Jones said. Coach Lovie Smith added, "We won't bring anybody back [unless] they're as close to 100 percent as possible and they're able to play." With Jones all but admitting that he's not 100 percent and Smith saying that he won't play anyone who's not completely healthy, the chances of Jones playing this week do not look promising. We'll keep you updated on Jones' status, but it appears right now that Anthony Thomas will make his second straight start Sunday vs. the Titans.

 
Bears now 3-0 w/ A-Train starting. Could they be foolish enough to switch back to the inferior RB & suffer their first loss in 4 games after they've crept back into contention?

 
Bears now 3-0 w/ A-Train starting. Could they be foolish enough to switch back to the inferior RB & suffer their first loss in 4 games after they've crept back into contention?
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ya A-train was an intergal part in their last victory :hophead: come on pony... u enjoyed the ride of a WW pick-up but the ride over :yes:
 
Bears now 3-0 w/ A-Train starting. Could they be foolish enough to switch back to the inferior RB & suffer their first loss in 4 games after they've crept back into contention?
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:fishing:Give it up Pony - they won their last game on a safety.Thomas Jones is what this offence is all about - however with urlacher out the D will suffer.Hopefully the don't lose so the rest of us won't have to hear Pony Spout off
 
The Bears are going to get down early this week, so Jones won't be all that play-worthy, anyway. If you have another option, take it.

 
The Bears are going to get down early this week, so Jones won't be all that play-worthy, anyway. If you have another option, take it.
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What do you mean playworthy? The Bears will be running and using short passes to their RB's to try and keep the ball away from Manning & Co. Even down 5 TD's, DD still had a nice game last week, Ontario performed well in split duty as well.I think if Jones can play, he's extremely playworthy.
 
The Bears are going to get down early this week, so Jones won't be all that play-worthy, anyway. If you have another option, take it.
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What do you mean playworthy? The Bears will be running and using short passes to their RB's to try and keep the ball away from Manning & Co. Even down 5 TD's, DD still had a nice game last week, Ontario performed well in split duty as well.I think if Jones can play, he's extremely playworthy.
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Seriously. That is one of the worst defenses in the league. You bet I play him if he's healthy...
 
The Bears are going to get down early this week, so Jones won't be all that play-worthy, anyway. If you have another option, take it.
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What do you mean playworthy? The Bears will be running and using short passes to their RB's to try and keep the ball away from Manning & Co. Even down 5 TD's, DD still had a nice game last week, Ontario performed well in split duty as well.I think if Jones can play, he's extremely playworthy.
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Seriously. That is one of the worst defenses in the league. You bet I play him if he's healthy...
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No doubt.Even down by a handful of points, the pass to Jones will be used a lot - and the deep pass getting closed out by TJones in close will be the comeback strategy.
 
Jones is clearly the better back, and the offense is geared around him...if you don't agree with just about everyone else here, how about the Bears Offensive coordinator?

"I can't say enough about the performance level that Anthony Thomas gave us in crunch situations,'' Shea said. "[but] Thomas Jones gives us a little bit more wiggle, and Thomas is a very smart player as well.''
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If Jones is healthy, and they think he will be, Thomas gets 5-10 carries and that's it.
 
The Bears are going to get down early this week, so Jones won't be all that play-worthy, anyway. If you have another option, take it.
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huh? TJ is extremely involved both in the run and passign attack that Chicago uses. like the other posters here said they will try to control the clock with TJ alone. he's nowhere near a bad play that u might be predicting.
 
Not to jump down Lordhusker's throat, but I agree with the others, Jones is far from benchworthy. When a player is as involved in the offense as he has been, it'll be hard for him to not put up quite a few fantasy points against a very bad defense. I'm more worried about him coming back less than 100% than I am him not being involved much against the Colts if the Bears go down early.

 
Sheesh, people. I said that if you another option, take it. If you don't have another decent option, then don't. Start him.In a 10-team league, I have LT, Dillon, Bettis and Thomas Jones. I'm not even considering Jones, because I think that a) He's still hurt; b) He'll split work with A-Train and; c) They'll be down early, meaning they may just fall apart on offense. This is the Bears, after all. After Peyton throws 4 TDs in the first half, they may not react all that well.If you want to start Jones, be my guest. I'm just glad that I won't be.

 
any news on how he looked in practice today?
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Bears | Jones Practicing and Looking Good - from www.KFFL.com

Wed, 17 Nov 2004 15:34:18 -0800

Chicago Bears RB Thomas Jones (toe) remains questionable for Week 11. He practiced Wednesday, Nov. 17, and head coach Lovie Smith said he looked good, which points towards Jones returning to the field in Week 11.
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Still worth watching in my opinion. He could re-injure the thing if he pushes too hard.
 
Jones is clearly the better back, and the offense is geared around him...if you don't agree with just about everyone else here, how about the Bears Offensive coordinator?

"I can't say enough about the performance level that Anthony Thomas gave us in crunch situations,'' Shea said. "[but] Thomas Jones gives us a little bit more wiggle, and Thomas is a very smart player as well.''
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Riddle me this, Batman:If the Bears' O-coordinator is so great that a few people have quoted him for his judgment, then how come the Bears' O is ranked dead last in the NFL?
 
Jones is clearly the better back, and the offense is geared around him...if you don't agree with just about everyone else here, how about the Bears Offensive coordinator?

"I can't say enough about the performance level that Anthony Thomas gave us in crunch situations,'' Shea said. "[but] Thomas Jones gives us a little bit more wiggle, and Thomas is a very smart player as well.''
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Riddle me this, Batman:If the Bears' O-coordinator is so great that a few people have quoted him for his judgment, then how come the Bears' O is ranked dead last in the NFL?
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I suppose the QB and WR positions have nothing to do with it? :whistle:
 
Jones is clearly the better back, and the offense is geared around him...if you don't agree with just about everyone else here, how about the Bears Offensive coordinator?

"I can't say enough about the performance level that Anthony Thomas gave us in crunch situations,'' Shea said. "[but] Thomas Jones gives us a little bit more wiggle, and Thomas is a very smart player as well.''
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Riddle me this, Batman:If the Bears' O-coordinator is so great that a few people have quoted him for his judgment, then how come the Bears' O is ranked dead last in the NFL?
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I suppose the QB and WR positions have nothing to do with it? :whistle:
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Ohhh, I knew someone would throw that excuse out there.Okay, DEN is using its 5th string RB & is 5th in the NFL in total offense, but the Bears are #32 in total offense because they have lost 1 QB? Weak.

As far as WR, that just supports my case that Shea's judgment is questionable. Otherwise, how can you excuse starting a turd like David Terrell but letting a potential very solid WR like Bernard berrian languish on the bench most of the season so far? Unfathomable.

Jones will start because he is the coaches' darling, and the Bears will go back to their losing ways. Facts don't lie. Bears with Jones starting: 1-5. Bears with Thomas starting: 3-0.

 
Ohhh, I knew someone would throw that excuse out there.

Okay, DEN is using its 5th string RB & is 5th in the NFL in total offense, but the Bears are #32 in total offense because they have lost 1 QB? Weak.

As far as WR, that just supports my case that Shea's judgment is questionable. Otherwise, how can you excuse starting a turd like David Terrell but letting a potential very solid WR like Bernard berrian languish on the bench most of the season so far? Unfathomable.

Jones will start because he is the coaches' darling, and the Bears will go back to their losing ways. Facts don't lie. Bears with Jones starting: 1-5. Bears with Thomas starting: 3-0.
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:rotflmao: That was comical. :thumbup:
 
Facts don't lie. Bears with Jones starting: 1-5. Bears with Thomas starting: 3-0.
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Misinterpreted facts, and tortured logic make for some of the very best lies.
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Even homer would see through that logic.I do not know how anyone that has been watching the bears this year could come to the conclusion that A Train is the better back in the system.
 
Facts don't lie.  Bears with Jones starting:  1-5.  Bears with Thomas starting: 3-0.
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Misinterpreted facts, and tortured logic make for some of the very best lies.
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Please explain. This looks like a direct correlation to me. Jones had 3 games with the Bears' best QB, and 3 games with the worst QB, and the Bears' record in those games was 1-5. Did I state anything that was false here? Did I twist or convolute any facts?Thomas has had 3 starts with the Bears' tweener QB (who has hardly been effective by NFL standards), and the Bears have won all 3 of those games. Did I state anything that was false here? Did I twist or convolute any facts?Just because you Jones lovers don't want to face the truth doesn't mean that the truth doesn't exist. Going into this season, both RB's stats lead clearly to the conclusion that Thomas is the better RB of the two. Now that is being perpetuated as the RBs get a chance to perform with the same teammates, and the Bears are undeniably more successful when Thomas is the starting RB.One day some of you will learn something intricate about football. The QB who throws for 400+ yds isn't always the best QB on the field - in fact they lose regularly. The RB who can look flashy while he puts up a big gainer isn't necessarily the best RB for the team if he can't regularly move the chains or make the other team respect the run like the RB who plows ahead for 4 ypc with consistency. The WR who catches the long TD may not help the team be more successful than the guy who averages 8 ypc but catches everything thrown to him, saves the QB from INTs on bad throws, and is reliable in 3rd down & 4th down situations.You judge football players by their FF stats and you think you understand the game.LOL.
 
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flaVVed - no one could make Jonathan Quinn look good.Let Jones play with Krenzel and then make the correlation
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Are you making the argument that Krenzel is better than Grossman? I'd love to get involved with that argument.Jones was still 1-2 with Grossman as a QB, while Thomas is 3-0 with Krenzel as a starter.Just the facts.
 
Please explain. This looks like a direct correlation to me. Jones had 3 games with the Bears' best QB, and 3 games with the worst QB, and the Bears' record in those games was 1-5. Did I state anything that was false here? Did I twist or convolute any facts?Thomas has had 3 starts with the Bears' tweener QB (who has hardly been effective by NFL standards), and the Bears have won all 3 of those games. Did I state anything that was false here? Did I twist or convolute any facts?
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I'll preface this by saying that I am a HUGE Bears fan. Watch every one and try and at least go to at least one a year. (Did philly this year.)You are absolutely insane to think that A-Train fits this system better. Is he a very good RB? Hell yes he is. Would the Bears have been fine if they had spent TJ's money on something else and resigned Train. Yes, the could've.Are they better with a faster, quicker more explosive back? Yes.You're whole argument is based upon these last three games. There is NO reason to believe that this horrendous offense is the reason why the Bears have a 3 game streak going.The guys on Defense are finally starting to play like Lovie wants them to play. The front four are putting massive amounts of pressure on opposing offenses. They are getting turnovers and here's the big thing... the defense/special teams are scoring the majority of the points.Take last weeks game... how many points did the Bears offense with this wonderful A-Train led backfield put up on the board? A whopping 3 points.To be honest, with the horrendous wide receivers they have I wouldn't mind seeing a double tight end set with TJ and Train both in the backfield. Just run it every single damn play of the game. About the only way they have a prayer against the Colts this week.
 
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