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Thoughts on this video? (1 Viewer)
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fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Exactly. That would be more responsible reporting, but slightly reducing the sensationalism, can't risk the ratings.
The mother seems like a huge piece of ####. Yea, I took his spot and told him to go #### himself, then I left my daughter to deal with it. You got a ####### problem with that? Apple doesn't fall from the tree with the daughter who just goes after the guy.
Honestly, if the guys wife would've gotten out and pummeled the girl (instead of him), I'd think that would've been the best outcome. She looked like a big girl (not surprisingly).
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Maybe you’re the one outlier but it’s always a process. If the parking lot isn’t busy....fine. But it always seems to be the one clown who’s holding up traffic as he repositions his car 4-5 times trying to get into the space straight.
glvsav37
Footballguy
plus, with everyone having huge urban assault vehicles, its almost impossible to see either side as you back out of a space. I get the honk and speed past all the time while im trying to back out between 2 full sized cargo vans. Backing in to the spot puts the driver closer to the though lane and can better see other drivers and people walking
edit to add....thats why I always try and look for the 'pull through'
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fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
My wife put these cool pink eyelashes around the headlights. If I don't back into the spot, how will anyone see them?
E-Z Glider
Footballguy
Backing into parking spots is horribly inefficient, but there are a lot of bad drivers out there. If them taking a few extra minutes to park every time helps to prevent a few extra fender-benders, I guess its worth it. Never catch me doing it, though.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Watched it again. Watch how the daughter gets out of the car. Before the guy kicks the car, she gets out and from my vantage point looks like a full go for a confrontation.
Edit, watched it again
tough to actually make this call.She keeps going back for more, kicks his car as well too at the end.
Conclusion; they're all pieces of garbage.
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comfortably numb
Footballguy
We are desensitized to this, especially as Americans.
I find it interesting. My kids 12 and 10 wanted to watch Halloween, the original.
We all did and when there is any kissing going on they cover their eyes and my wife follows suit telling them when its ok to watch again.
Knife slash to the throat. All good.
It is a fascinating way us Americans accept so much violence in our culture but try to hide/shun anything sexual.
comfortably numb
Footballguy
We are desensitized to this, especially as Americans.
I find it interesting. My kids 12 and 10 wanted to watch Halloween, the original.
We all did and when there is any kissing going on they cover their eyes and my wife follows suit telling them when its ok to watch again.
Knife slash to the throat. All good.
It is a fascinating way us Americans accept so much violence in our culture but try to hide/shun anything sexual.
comfortably numb
Footballguy
Neat upgrade
Bob Loblaw
Footballguy
I don't know that he was going to back in to the spot. He may have just been backing up to go past the spot, then pull in forward. Lady is in the wrong, not his fault.
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Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
I some dbag guy is coming at me swinging I am swinging back. I don`t see it ever happening but if a female half my size came at me swinging I would just put my arms out in defense and push her away...and if she somehow fell never ever would I continue to land blows to her head and face while she was down.Binky The Doormat said:
Hot Diggity Dog
Footballguy
If people walked like they drive there would be fistfights all day. A woman cut me off today speeding out of a parking lot, one set of tires going over the curb, to catch a light. Almost certain she would never do the same to cut in front of me for a door.
Epic Problem
Footballguy
you should try maneuvering around the Loop in Chicago at 8:30 in the morning on weekday
SWC
Bromigo
he should have left and then come back in a monster truck and drove on top of her car and parked nothing says you just got served like coming out of a china place and finding none other than the gravedigger sitting on top of your crushed up like a crappy mountain dew code red fifteen year old pos lexus no punches thrown and no police get involved but bam the gravedigger wins another round take that to the bank brochachos
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SWC
Bromigo
my last pos car could not go in reverse which was a lot of fun that is sarcasm so i always had to park way out in the middle of the lot so that i could pull through because if someone was in front of me i had to put it in neutral and push it backwards and run around and hop in real quick before it hit something take that to the bank bromigos
It is unpopular but I have to agree with you. No chance they didn’t think he was waiting for that spot. Some people are such jerks that instead of letting him park they have to steal it. I’m sorry, but when your daughter comes out of the car swinging, that tells me a lot about these people. Some adult female takes a swing at someone and all bets are off. I’m not saying he shouldn’t walk away, but if people are equal and men can’t do anything over the line even if by accident, then come out swinging and he’s got the right to defend himself.Binky The Doormat said:
I’m not wasting my tears or worry for women who go through real abuse for women like that. There actions already told me enough and I’ve got no sympathy just because they are women.
There’s a difference between saying they got what they deserved and saying it’s OK for him to pummel her to death. I think he (or at least I) am saying that she and her mother acted like dirtballs and if that’s how they act, they shouldn’t be surprised that bad stuff happens to them. To see them crying afterwards like someone came after them for no reason is laughable.
SWC
Bromigo
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Epic Problem
Footballguy
Why not? If I drop my wife off to run inside to pick something up, I'll often just sit there like that, in the lane but try to stay out of the way. That way I can stay out of the fire lane in front of the store and not take up a spot that someone else could use. When I see her walk out of the store, I'll pull up and get her. From what I see in parking lots, I'm not alone in this behavior.
Another thing is that if you passed that spot, its not yours anymore. This isn't parallel parking that's taking place.
Also, I'll echo my previous point where there are no reverse lights on the front of that car. She has no idea he's planning on backing up until, at the earliest, she's already moving forward.
My observations:
He's really fat. He should do something about that soon or he won't live long.
We don't know what he said to the mother but I'm sure he expressed his displeasure. It wasn't too smart for the mother to just leave her car and not think he might do something to it.
He was wrong for kicking the car.
The younger girl was wrong for trying to punch El Gordo.
El Gordo was wrong for beating up the young girl.
Regarding the "stealing of the spot", I side with the blue Lexus. I don't think she would have known he was going to back up in the spot. She was approaching from the front of his car and couldn't see his reverse lights. That being said, I think most sane people would react with something like, "Oh, you were backing in that spot. My bad. Hold on a second....let me move my car".
He's really fat. He should do something about that soon or he won't live long.
We don't know what he said to the mother but I'm sure he expressed his displeasure. It wasn't too smart for the mother to just leave her car and not think he might do something to it.
He was wrong for kicking the car.
The younger girl was wrong for trying to punch El Gordo.
El Gordo was wrong for beating up the young girl.
Regarding the "stealing of the spot", I side with the blue Lexus. I don't think she would have known he was going to back up in the spot. She was approaching from the front of his car and couldn't see his reverse lights. That being said, I think most sane people would react with something like, "Oh, you were backing in that spot. My bad. Hold on a second....let me move my car".
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
He was clearly moving backwards, and from the video, looks like his blinker is on as well. She didn't casually pull in, that was a bank job parking maneuver.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Well, regardless if her "stealing" the spot was intentional or not, she should have offered to move when she saw how irate El Gordo got.
Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
Sorry, but his car was moving and as posted above the blinker was on. It was a #### move and she flew into the spot right behind him. Also, for most normal people, I wouldn’t try to pass someone backing up anyway. I tend to be polite and careful when driving. It may be because I think most people are idiots and I don’t need an idiot ruining my day by not paying attention. I assume people aren’t going to stop or will do the one thing they shouldn’t.
Why not? If I drop my wife off to run inside to pick something up, I'll often just sit there like that, in the lane but try to stay out of the way. That way I can stay out of the fire lane in front of the store and not take up a spot that someone else could use. When I see her walk out of the store, I'll pull up and get her. From what I see in parking lots, I'm not alone in this behavior.
Another thing is that if you passed that spot, its not yours anymore. This isn't parallel parking that's taking place.
Also, I'll echo my previous point where there are no reverse lights on the front of that car. She has no idea he's planning on backing up until, at the earliest, she's already moving forward.
The hell it is....its significantly safer to back into a spot and pull straight out than back out of a spot after pulling in, if the person is a capable driver. Many delivery companies teach their drivers to back in, not out in order to leverage this control of situation. Once you pull in and park, you give up the option to control your surroundings which can make it difficult to back out of a spot.
The sheer number of parking lot accidents caused by people backing out of parking spots and not seeing people coming is mindboggling. Worked in auto insurance for years. Almost never have people pulling out of a spot moving forward get in those situations.
I agree a bad driver has no business backing into a spot, but trust me they aren't any better backing out of one.
Epic Problem
Footballguy
Anyone that's convinced themselves, based off of that video, that the turn signal was on loses all credibility in this debate.
culdeus
Footballguy
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
what is with the weird lady dangling her keys at the end?
Epic Problem
Footballguy
I'm not doubting the possibility, I just don't think the evidence is there. I see a reverse light on and then a break light come on. I see nothing blinking to suggest the turn signal was going.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
Is the girl "keying" his truck at the end. She is doing something to his driver's side passenger door and I presume that's what she is doing.
That girl has a future in MMA. She can take a punch, now she needs to learn how to throw one and to avoid getting hit, but those things can be taught, the ability to take one and keep coming forward, that's a gift from God.
That girl has a future in MMA. She can take a punch, now she needs to learn how to throw one and to avoid getting hit, but those things can be taught, the ability to take one and keep coming forward, that's a gift from God.
Worm
slimy ninja
Once had my car keyed from front bumper to back bumper, presumably because I "stole" a parking space.
We were driving down the aisle and there is a spot. Go to turn in it, and someone at the end of the row turns into the aisle and then starts honking at us and yelling in their car as we pull in the spot.
Go in the store not really thinking about it, we did nothing wrong, and when we come out... keyed. People are nuts.
We were driving down the aisle and there is a spot. Go to turn in it, and someone at the end of the row turns into the aisle and then starts honking at us and yelling in their car as we pull in the spot.
Go in the store not really thinking about it, we did nothing wrong, and when we come out... keyed. People are nuts.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Long semi-related story...
In college I lived downstairs in a tri-plex apartment building. A pair of two-story units side by side over top a long one that ran underneath both and walked out onto the back yard, downhill from the front of the building. Behind our building was a small gravel parking lot, shared by three different buildings. We had maybe six designated spots, the house to our left at the end of the gravel access road had a couple and a building on the other side of the lot -- even further down the hill -- had one or two. Every now and then someone else would try to squat back there, but they'd get towed in no time. It was a good setup for a college town where parking could be hard.
One Saturday night me and my two roommates hear a loud commotion alongside our apartment. We go to the window, which looks out on the side of the stairs/hill running from the top two units to ours and two women (who were a couple, and a bit older than us) from the building over the hill are screaming bloody murder at one of the girls that lived above us. Turns out they'd parked in one of our building's spots and she'd had them towed.
The two get aggressive enough that the girl's boyfriend gets involved. He was probably 5'10" and 140 pounds -- very skinny and very very country. Not super confrontational, just telling them to back off his girlfriend.
But when he intervenes one of the two women gets aggressive and backs him up the hill that paralleled the side of the house. Has her finger in his chest and jabs it with each step as she moves forward. #### talking him as she does. Step, jab. Step, jab. Each time he takes a step back he says, "I ain't hittin' no girl." I don't remember what she was actually saying, but it really was fightin' words. She was ready to go.
So it's step, jab, "I ain't hittin' no girl." Maybe three or four times they go like that, up the hill.
Until finally country has had enough, grabs her by the collar and the belt and chucks her about five feet down the grass embankment, yelling, "BUT I'LL #### YOU UP IF YOU WANT ME TO." This was not a small woman, but he had her airborne. It was incredible, not least of which because we had no idea he could physically do it. A total shock.
Anyhow, she hits the ground and it knocked the fight out of her. Her partner comes over and they disappear back down over the hill. The couple from upstairs go back in.
Next morning the two women are outside our house, looking around in the grass. Apparently she lost her keys when she hit the ground. Definitely a walk-of-shame moment for them as we went past.
Always think of that when I hear stories like the OP. In hindsight maybe he could have done more, but in real time I gave the dude credit for trying to defuse things and for ending the situation without pummeling her.
In college I lived downstairs in a tri-plex apartment building. A pair of two-story units side by side over top a long one that ran underneath both and walked out onto the back yard, downhill from the front of the building. Behind our building was a small gravel parking lot, shared by three different buildings. We had maybe six designated spots, the house to our left at the end of the gravel access road had a couple and a building on the other side of the lot -- even further down the hill -- had one or two. Every now and then someone else would try to squat back there, but they'd get towed in no time. It was a good setup for a college town where parking could be hard.
One Saturday night me and my two roommates hear a loud commotion alongside our apartment. We go to the window, which looks out on the side of the stairs/hill running from the top two units to ours and two women (who were a couple, and a bit older than us) from the building over the hill are screaming bloody murder at one of the girls that lived above us. Turns out they'd parked in one of our building's spots and she'd had them towed.
The two get aggressive enough that the girl's boyfriend gets involved. He was probably 5'10" and 140 pounds -- very skinny and very very country. Not super confrontational, just telling them to back off his girlfriend.
But when he intervenes one of the two women gets aggressive and backs him up the hill that paralleled the side of the house. Has her finger in his chest and jabs it with each step as she moves forward. #### talking him as she does. Step, jab. Step, jab. Each time he takes a step back he says, "I ain't hittin' no girl." I don't remember what she was actually saying, but it really was fightin' words. She was ready to go.
So it's step, jab, "I ain't hittin' no girl." Maybe three or four times they go like that, up the hill.
Until finally country has had enough, grabs her by the collar and the belt and chucks her about five feet down the grass embankment, yelling, "BUT I'LL #### YOU UP IF YOU WANT ME TO." This was not a small woman, but he had her airborne. It was incredible, not least of which because we had no idea he could physically do it. A total shock.
Anyhow, she hits the ground and it knocked the fight out of her. Her partner comes over and they disappear back down over the hill. The couple from upstairs go back in.
Next morning the two women are outside our house, looking around in the grass. Apparently she lost her keys when she hit the ground. Definitely a walk-of-shame moment for them as we went past.
Always think of that when I hear stories like the OP. In hindsight maybe he could have done more, but in real time I gave the dude credit for trying to defuse things and for ending the situation without pummeling her.
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fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
comfortably numb
Footballguy
No one got killed in this incident I actually call this American progress
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Okay, I've watched this video about 2 dozen times. First things first; 
With that out of the way, SUV guy was def waiting for the spot, he does have his reverse light on as soon as the clip starts rolling. I can't make a definitive statement about the blinker. He appears stationary (foot on brake, car in reverse), until it looks like the blue car is jockeying to get in the spot. At that juncture, he starts moving to show his intent, so I'd think a reasonable assumption is the blinker is on, but cannot say. As he starts to back up, she guns it around him (when I say gun, prob 15 - 18 mph, when for a normal parking job, I'm traveling sub 10mph). She is out of the car so fast she stumbles into the pickup next to her, while leaving her daughter behind.
Opening sequence, do we all agree on that much?
Act Dos:
He comes over to confront her, she tells him to #### off, probably the gist of the conversation. Daughter opens door as he is saying something to her, I assume something not pleasant. Daughter walks around, I don't think he noticed her and kicks the car and begins walking away. Daughter approaches and is most likely yelling something. He turns around, she hesitates for a split second and takes a swing. He grabs her by her head, tosses her into the car next to them, takes two swings, she falls, and he takes four more swings and walks away. Mom (that #####) comes walking (not running) over after kicking his door shut and gets tossed, might be my favorite part of the clip Daughter goes running back at the guy, gets tossed, good toss at that. Meanwhile, mom is still laying on the ground. His wife gets out of the car and realizes her husband has the situation well controlled. Guy goes back to his car, closes door as daughter is still prob yelling. It does look like she might've keyed his car, then gives it a kick as he drives off. Daughter then points out the damage to her 98 RX300 and picks up her Dooney & Bourke bag, while mom is still on the ground. No clue where this chick got her jaw from, def not mom.
True Murican classic in this one.
With that out of the way, SUV guy was def waiting for the spot, he does have his reverse light on as soon as the clip starts rolling. I can't make a definitive statement about the blinker. He appears stationary (foot on brake, car in reverse), until it looks like the blue car is jockeying to get in the spot. At that juncture, he starts moving to show his intent, so I'd think a reasonable assumption is the blinker is on, but cannot say. As he starts to back up, she guns it around him (when I say gun, prob 15 - 18 mph, when for a normal parking job, I'm traveling sub 10mph). She is out of the car so fast she stumbles into the pickup next to her, while leaving her daughter behind.
Opening sequence, do we all agree on that much?
Act Dos:
He comes over to confront her, she tells him to #### off, probably the gist of the conversation. Daughter opens door as he is saying something to her, I assume something not pleasant. Daughter walks around, I don't think he noticed her and kicks the car and begins walking away. Daughter approaches and is most likely yelling something. He turns around, she hesitates for a split second and takes a swing. He grabs her by her head, tosses her into the car next to them, takes two swings, she falls, and he takes four more swings and walks away. Mom (that #####) comes walking (not running) over after kicking his door shut and gets tossed, might be my favorite part of the clip
Daughter goes running back at the guy, gets tossed, good toss at that. Meanwhile, mom is still laying on the ground. His wife gets out of the car and realizes her husband has the situation well controlled. Guy goes back to his car, closes door as daughter is still prob yelling. It does look like she might've keyed his car, then gives it a kick as he drives off. Daughter then points out the damage to her 98 RX300 and picks up her Dooney & Bourke bag, while mom is still on the ground. No clue where this chick got her jaw from, def not mom. True Murican classic in this one.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
People who back in are better drivers.
Your first line is hilarious. If done correctly, backing in to park is literally the exact opposite process of pulling in. Exactly the same amount of movements/motions.
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fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Wrigley
Footballguy
Bob Loblaw
Footballguy
I agree on most of the opening sequence, except for your bolded sentence. I thought she moved awkwardly to avoid running into the side view mirror of the other vehicle.Okay, I've watched this video about 2 dozen times. First things first;
With that out of the way, SUV guy was def waiting for the spot, he does have his reverse light on as soon as the clip starts rolling. I can't make a definitive statement about the blinker. He appears stationary (foot on brake, car in reverse), until it looks like the blue car is jockeying to get in the spot. At that juncture, he starts moving to show his intent, so I'd think a reasonable assumption is the blinker is on, but cannot say. As he starts to back up, she guns it around him (when I say gun, prob 15 - 18 mph, when for a normal parking job, I'm traveling sub 10mph). She is out of the car so fast she stumbles into the pickup next to her, while leaving her daughter behind.
Opening sequence, do we all agree on that much?
Act Dos:
He comes over to confront her, she tells him to #### off, probably the gist of the conversation. Daughter opens door as he is saying something to her, I assume something not pleasant. Daughter walks around, I don't think he noticed her and kicks the car and begins walking away. Daughter approaches and is most likely yelling something. He turns around, she hesitates for a split second and takes a swing. He grabs her by her head, tosses her into the car next to them, takes two swings, she falls, and he takes four more swings and walks away. Mom (that #####) comes walking (not running) over after kicking his door shut and gets tossed, might be my favorite part of the clip
True Murican classic in this one.
gianmarco
Footballguy
It is inefficient. It may be the same amount of movement/motions, but when I'm backing out of a spot, I wait to do so until there are no cars. People that back into spots do not wait to do so until there no cars. Oftentimes they do so while others are waiting. That's the inefficient portion about it.
It's why no one has a problem if they do it further away where no one is around. I don't care which way your car is facing. I do care if it takes you 3 minutes to back into a spot while I'm trying to get by you in a parking lot so I can park or leave. I feel the same way if you try to back out while I'm trying to park or leave.
I will only back into a spot if no one is around. If there are any cars behind me or coming soon, I pull in.
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STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Seems like a reach to say it’s ineficient but I’m not that passionate about this to argue with you. I see your point.
I try my best to park as far away from other cars as possible. I don’t mind the extra 10,20,50 or even hundred steps if it means I avoid the dents on my doors from others.
shadrap
Footballguy
GregR
Footballguy
a) Oil rigs and refineries have a possibility of exploding.
b) You can evacuate faster if you can pull forward out of a parking space than if you have to back out
c) Doing it all the time fosters the safety habit.
There's other reasons too that one could come up with reasonably enough. It's far more likely that a pedestrian or moving vehicle will be at risk and result in a more serious accident as you exit a parking space, than pulling in. So being able to see clearly then is a bigger benefit.
If you're parked between two large vehicles, you pretty much have to just back up and hope any other traffic stops since you can't see if anything is coming. You are in more control of the situation when you are backing into a space bordered by stationary vehicles than you are backing out into the lane of traffic and pedestrian traffic.
NotSmart
Footballguy
Just watched it a couple more times... it is genuinely mesmerizing in a Zapruder film sort of way.
IMO she was, without doubt, intentionally stealing the space... she literally drove around him as he was backing up toward the space. That in itself was sheer ignorance, as he could easily have accelerated into her without even knowing she had whipped around behind him.
I don't blame him for kicking her car... I wouldn't have done it, but I would have been mad enough to do it, and I think she deserved it - I'd most likely feel that way even more if we could hear what she said to the guy when he confronted her.
I don't think he even saw the daughter until she approached him, apparently saying something which caught his attention. Whatever she said, he quickly surmised she was from the offending car, and either way was legitimately (for a moment anyways) defending himself after she swung at him. He went way overboard though with his retaliation.
I don't think he landed any solid punches on the daughter, he was flailing a bit and either was not really trying to hit her hard, or his T Rex arms prevented any solid contact. Really I think the latter.
It did look like the daughter was getting something out of her purse when he was getting back into his truck, so I suspect she did do a little keyin'.
IMO she was, without doubt, intentionally stealing the space... she literally drove around him as he was backing up toward the space. That in itself was sheer ignorance, as he could easily have accelerated into her without even knowing she had whipped around behind him.
I don't blame him for kicking her car... I wouldn't have done it, but I would have been mad enough to do it, and I think she deserved it - I'd most likely feel that way even more if we could hear what she said to the guy when he confronted her.
I don't think he even saw the daughter until she approached him, apparently saying something which caught his attention. Whatever she said, he quickly surmised she was from the offending car, and either way was legitimately (for a moment anyways) defending himself after she swung at him. He went way overboard though with his retaliation.
I don't think he landed any solid punches on the daughter, he was flailing a bit and either was not really trying to hit her hard, or his T Rex arms prevented any solid contact. Really I think the latter.
It did look like the daughter was getting something out of her purse when he was getting back into his truck, so I suspect she did do a little keyin'.
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