Tiger Woods (2 Viewers)

[Apple Jack]

He wasn't just better than everybody else; he was doing things nobody had ever seen. Consistently. His peers were literally awestruck. The entire industry was. He appeared to defy the laws of physics at times. That's why he was, and still is, covered the way he was/is. It wasn't that he dominated, it was that he blew minds. That's what "they" were selling. When nobody else can do that, what are you going to do? And it started early. Long before the '97 Masters. Much of the golf world was already in awe even before the Steve Scott match in the '96 Am.

 

[17seconds]

He appeared to defy the laws of physics at times.

His body disagrees

 

[TheIronSheik]

He wasn't just better than everybody else; he was doing things nobody had ever seen. Consistently. His peers were literally awestruck. The entire industry was. He appeared to defy the laws of physics at times. That's why he was, and still is, covered the way he was/is. It wasn't that he dominated, it was that he blew minds. That's what "they" were selling. When nobody else can do that, what are you going to do? And it started early. Long before the '97 Masters. Much of the golf world was already in awe even before the Steve Scott match in the '96 Am.

If you're replying to me, congratulations. You completely missed the point.

 

[John Bender]

 

[Apple Jack]

He wasn't just better than everybody else; he was doing things nobody had ever seen. Consistently. His peers were literally awestruck. The entire industry was. He appeared to defy the laws of physics at times. That's why he was, and still is, covered the way he was/is. It wasn't that he dominated, it was that he blew minds. That's what "they" were selling. When nobody else can do that, what are you going to do? And it started early. Long before the '97 Masters. Much of the golf world was already in awe even before the Steve Scott match in the '96 Am.

If you're replying to me, congratulations. You completely missed the point.

No, I got it, I just think it's misguided and I think you don't even know who you're referring to when you say "golf" did this or that.

 

[TheIronSheik]

He wasn't just better than everybody else; he was doing things nobody had ever seen. Consistently. His peers were literally awestruck. The entire industry was. He appeared to defy the laws of physics at times. That's why he was, and still is, covered the way he was/is. It wasn't that he dominated, it was that he blew minds. That's what "they" were selling. When nobody else can do that, what are you going to do? And it started early. Long before the '97 Masters. Much of the golf world was already in awe even before the Steve Scott match in the '96 Am.

If you're replying to me, congratulations. You completely missed the point.

No, I got it, I just think it's misguided and I don't think you even know who you're referring to when you say "golf" did this or that.

I don't think you do. And when I say golf, I mean all involved. The TV networks, in general, that televise golf did nothing to try and use Tiger to hype the game and other players.

 

[Apple Jack]

He wasn't just better than everybody else; he was doing things nobody had ever seen. Consistently. His peers were literally awestruck. The entire industry was. He appeared to defy the laws of physics at times. That's why he was, and still is, covered the way he was/is. It wasn't that he dominated, it was that he blew minds. That's what "they" were selling. When nobody else can do that, what are you going to do? And it started early. Long before the '97 Masters. Much of the golf world was already in awe even before the Steve Scott match in the '96 Am.

If you're replying to me, congratulations. You completely missed the point.

No, I got it, I just think it's misguided and I don't think you even know who you're referring to when you say "golf" did this or that.

I don't think you do. And when I say golf, I mean all involved. The TV networks, in general, that televise golf did nothing to try and use Tiger to hype the game and other players.

Again, the game was never more popular than it was during Tiger's '99-'05 run. And that's saying something, because it was enormously popular when Bobby Jones won the Grand Slam. And the game is in fantastic standing currently. You're barking up the wrong tree here. Maybe your issue is with how SportsCenter covered golf?

 

[flapgreen]

He wasn't just better than everybody else; he was doing things nobody had ever seen. Consistently. His peers were literally awestruck. The entire industry was. He appeared to defy the laws of physics at times. That's why he was, and still is, covered the way he was/is. It wasn't that he dominated, it was that he blew minds. That's what "they" were selling. When nobody else can do that, what are you going to do? And it started early. Long before the '97 Masters. Much of the golf world was already in awe even before the Steve Scott match in the '96 Am.

If you're replying to me, congratulations. You completely missed the point.

No, I got it, I just think it's misguided and I don't think you even know who you're referring to when you say "golf" did this or that.

I don't think you do. And when I say golf, I mean all involved. The TV networks, in general, that televise golf did nothing to try and use Tiger to hype the game and other players.

I don't get it

 

[flapgreen]

Golf made a huge mistake during the height of Tiger by only focusing on him. I get why they did it. But they should have been trying to hype other players as well. There have been many other exciting golfers out there. Not as dominating, but definitely fun to watch. Yet all of the focus was on Tiger. All of their eggs in one basket. And when Tiger is done, and no one goes back to watching golf, they can only blame themselves.

Hard not to hype a player who's dominating everyone else.

Again. Not my point in the slightest.

what

 

[Jayrok]

Where do we send the flowers?

 

[The General]

Rumors are that Tiger is dumping Foley, it will be interesting to see who he goes to next.

Whether you root for or against him, whether you are a serious or casual fan, it sucks that Tiger is going to be out for a while. Tiger is great for the game.

Don't understand how anyone could disagree with this.

I don't really follow golf but am a huge sports fan.

He hasn't won one of the majors in 6 years if I heard right so to me, the casual golf fan, he's just another one of the good players. I'm sure there are tons of stats out there that say he's the best player or whatever but when I have watched he's just been another good player out there for more than half a decade now.

When I do watch it's usually one of the majors where what I remember is that he acts like a complete ##### throwing tantrums, looks like he is always pissed. Not a big deal but does not make him likable to me.

Top that with his absolute lack of a personality, that he never says anything remotely interesting, that he seems like a scumbag in his personal life and that I have to hear about him nonstop on ESPN and I really don't care about this guy at all. In fact I really just get tired of hearing about him.

Just my 2 cents as to why people don't care about him or even may root against him.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Which player winning the Masters will piss Tiger off the most...Phil? Rory? Sergio?

 

[Apple Jack]

Sergio.

 

[Dark Matter]

Jack

 

[TobiasFunke]

Rumors are that Tiger is dumping Foley, it will be interesting to see who he goes to next.

Whether you root for or against him, whether you are a serious or casual fan, it sucks that Tiger is going to be out for a while. Tiger is great for the game.

Don't understand how anyone could disagree with this.

I don't really follow golf but am a huge sports fan.

He hasn't won one of the majors in 6 years if I heard right so to me, the casual golf fan, he's just another one of the good players. I'm sure there are tons of stats out there that say he's the best player or whatever but when I have watched he's just been another good player out there for more than half a decade now.

When I do watch it's usually one of the majors where what I remember is that he acts like a complete ##### throwing tantrums, looks like he is always pissed. Not a big deal but does not make him likable to me.

Top that with his absolute lack of a personality, that he never says anything remotely interesting, that he seems like a scumbag in his personal life and that I have to hear about him nonstop on ESPN and I really don't care about this guy at all. In fact I really just get tired of hearing about him.

Just my 2 cents as to why people don't care about him or even may root against him.

You're welcome to like or dislike anyone you want for any reason, but just FYI the bolded narrative is mostly a media creation, or a case where the only reason you hear about it is because he's Tiger. For example Bubba Watson throws HUGE hissy fits on the course on a regular basis, 10x worse than anything Tiger's ever done. But most people only know him as the guy who won the Masters with the crazy curved shot out of the woods and then got emotional about it and maybe you know he owns the General Lee, so everyone likes him and the scrutiny isn't the same as it is with the super-famous guy who has a dedicated camera crew on him every shot of every round.

I won't get into the "just another one of the good players now" thing. Obviously it's not true but I see how it would be your understanding if you only watched the big events.

 

[DiStefano]

Where do we send the flowers?

Actually, they are going to discontinue golf when Tiger retires. No excitement, no cheating, no five iron hitting the SUV, no moving the ball with your foot, no ### it! on the course, what's to like?

Shut it down.

 

[JuniorNB]

Where do we send the flowers?

Apple Jack's house. Send some tissues also.

 

[flapgreen]

Lol

 

[Apple Jack]

I wish the whole clip of his press conference was up, but this is still great. He had talked #### Friday night after getting paired with him for Saturday, about not being impressed and liking his chances, and then staggered in punch drunk after playing with him Saturday to deliver this gem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-tcbfMelYo

 

[flapgreen]

Awesome

 

[Otis]

Hate to see Tiger falling apart like this. It's much more exciting for the casual fan when he's dominating.

LOL CASUAL FAN!! WHAT LOSERS!!!!!!

Golf or die, brah.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Masters odds now that Tiger it out. Patrick Reed at 50-1 seems like good value.

PLAYER ODDS Rory McIlroy 7-1 Adam Scott 9-1 Phil Mickelson 14-1 Jason Day 16-1 Dustin Johnson 18-1 Henrik Stenson 22-1 Bubba Watson 22-1 Matt Kuchar 25-1 Justin Rose 25-1 Zach Johnson 28-1 Sergio Garcia 30-1 Brandt Snedeker 35-1 Keegan Bradley 40-1 Charl Schwartzel 40-1 Jordan Spieth 40-1 Hunter Mahan 45-1 Luke Donald 50-1 Jason Dufner 50-1 Louis Oosthuizen 50-1 Ian Poulter 50-1 Patrick Reed 50-1 Lee Westwood 50-1 Angel Cabrera 65-1 Harris English 65-1 Graeme McDowell 65-1 Jimmy Walker 65-1 Hideki Matsuyama 70-1 Webb Simpson 75-1 Victor Dubuisson 80-1 Rickie Fowler 80-1 Jim Furyk 80-1 Bill Haas 80-1 Steve Stricker 80-1 Nick Watney 100-1 Field (All Others) 8-1

 

[Jayrok]

Where do we send the flowers?

Actually, they are going to discontinue golf when Tiger retires. No excitement, no cheating, no five iron hitting the SUV, no moving the ball with your foot, no ### it! on the course, what's to like?

Shut it down.

I thought Tiger had died listening to some of the comments. Turns out it was only surgery to correct a back problem. Glad to hear he's still alive. Get well soon..

 

[Apple Jack]

Mickelson at 14-1 could be the best value there.

 

[Jayrok]

Angel Cabrera 65-1. For some reason you can never count out Angel at Augusta.

Also like Stenson at 22-1

 

[TobiasFunke]

Masters odds now that Tiger it out. Patrick Reed at 50-1 seems like good value.

PLAYER ODDS Rory McIlroy 7-1 Adam Scott 9-1 Phil Mickelson 14-1 Jason Day 16-1 Dustin Johnson 18-1 Henrik Stenson 22-1 Bubba Watson 22-1 Matt Kuchar 25-1 Justin Rose 25-1 Zach Johnson 28-1 Sergio Garcia 30-1 Brandt Snedeker 35-1 Keegan Bradley 40-1 Charl Schwartzel 40-1 Jordan Spieth 40-1 Hunter Mahan 45-1 Luke Donald 50-1 Jason Dufner 50-1 Louis Oosthuizen 50-1 Ian Poulter 50-1 Patrick Reed 50-1 Lee Westwood 50-1 Angel Cabrera 65-1 Harris English 65-1 Graeme McDowell 65-1 Jimmy Walker 65-1 Hideki Matsuyama 70-1 Webb Simpson 75-1 Victor Dubuisson 80-1 Rickie Fowler 80-1 Jim Furyk 80-1 Bill Haas 80-1 Steve Stricker 80-1 Nick Watney 100-1 Field (All Others) 8-1

I understand he's never played there before, but 65-1 on the best player in the world this year seems like a good deal.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Masters odds now that Tiger it out. Patrick Reed at 50-1 seems like good value.

PLAYER ODDS Rory McIlroy 7-1 Adam Scott 9-1 Phil Mickelson 14-1 Jason Day 16-1 Dustin Johnson 18-1 Henrik Stenson 22-1 Bubba Watson 22-1 Matt Kuchar 25-1 Justin Rose 25-1 Zach Johnson 28-1 Sergio Garcia 30-1 Brandt Snedeker 35-1 Keegan Bradley 40-1 Charl Schwartzel 40-1 Jordan Spieth 40-1 Hunter Mahan 45-1 Luke Donald 50-1 Jason Dufner 50-1 Louis Oosthuizen 50-1 Ian Poulter 50-1 Patrick Reed 50-1 Lee Westwood 50-1 Angel Cabrera 65-1 Harris English 65-1 Graeme McDowell 65-1 Jimmy Walker 65-1 Hideki Matsuyama 70-1 Webb Simpson 75-1 Victor Dubuisson 80-1 Rickie Fowler 80-1 Jim Furyk 80-1 Bill Haas 80-1 Steve Stricker 80-1 Nick Watney 100-1 Field (All Others) 8-1

I understand he's never played there before, but 65-1 on the best player in the world this year seems like a good deal.

DYNO-MITE!!!!

 

[Kuz]

Masters odds now that Tiger it out. Patrick Reed at 50-1 seems like good value.

PLAYER ODDS Rory McIlroy 7-1 Adam Scott 9-1 Phil Mickelson 14-1 Jason Day 16-1 Dustin Johnson 18-1 Henrik Stenson 22-1 Bubba Watson 22-1 Matt Kuchar 25-1 Justin Rose 25-1 Zach Johnson 28-1 Sergio Garcia 30-1 Brandt Snedeker 35-1 Keegan Bradley 40-1 Charl Schwartzel 40-1 Jordan Spieth 40-1 Hunter Mahan 45-1 Luke Donald 50-1 Jason Dufner 50-1 Louis Oosthuizen 50-1 Ian Poulter 50-1 Patrick Reed 50-1 Lee Westwood 50-1 Angel Cabrera 65-1 Harris English 65-1 Graeme McDowell 65-1 Jimmy Walker 65-1 Hideki Matsuyama 70-1 Webb Simpson 75-1 Victor Dubuisson 80-1 Rickie Fowler 80-1 Jim Furyk 80-1 Bill Haas 80-1 Steve Stricker 80-1 Nick Watney 100-1 Field (All Others) 8-1

I understand he's never played there before, but 65-1 on the best player in the world this year seems like a good deal.

If you like him you would want to bet like top 4 or 5. The odds obviously won't be nearly as good but when was the last time anyone not name Tiger has won 4 Tournaments in a year by the end of the Masters.. I can't see him winning his 4th at the Masters

 

[Apple Jack]

Masters odds now that Tiger it out. Patrick Reed at 50-1 seems like good value.

PLAYER ODDS Rory McIlroy 7-1 Adam Scott 9-1 Phil Mickelson 14-1 Jason Day 16-1 Dustin Johnson 18-1 Henrik Stenson 22-1 Bubba Watson 22-1 Matt Kuchar 25-1 Justin Rose 25-1 Zach Johnson 28-1 Sergio Garcia 30-1 Brandt Snedeker 35-1 Keegan Bradley 40-1 Charl Schwartzel 40-1 Jordan Spieth 40-1 Hunter Mahan 45-1 Luke Donald 50-1 Jason Dufner 50-1 Louis Oosthuizen 50-1 Ian Poulter 50-1 Patrick Reed 50-1 Lee Westwood 50-1 Angel Cabrera 65-1 Harris English 65-1 Graeme McDowell 65-1 Jimmy Walker 65-1 Hideki Matsuyama 70-1 Webb Simpson 75-1 Victor Dubuisson 80-1 Rickie Fowler 80-1 Jim Furyk 80-1 Bill Haas 80-1 Steve Stricker 80-1 Nick Watney 100-1 Field (All Others) 8-1

I understand he's never played there before, but 65-1 on the best player in the world this year seems like a good deal.

Worth a couple bucks anyway. He seems to have cooled off a bit in the last couple months. Also have to remember, there really is no venue on tour where local knowledge is as important as it is at Augusta. You can study all the video in the world, but a first timer winning is very rare.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Players who won the Masters in the first attempt:

1. Horton Smith, 1934
2. Gene Sarazen, 1935
3. Fuzzy Zoeller, 1979

The tournament began in 1934.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Players who won the Masters in the first attempt:

1. Horton Smith, 1934
2. Gene Sarazen, 1935
3. Fuzzy Zoeller, 1979

The tournament began in 1934.

Sure, but I'm guessing there haven't been many years where the tour's best player for the season to date was playing in the Masters for the first time. Most years the only first-timers are probably just the amateurs, grinders who lucked into one win in some weak field tourney, and maybe a couple solid but unspectacular guys who snuck into the back end of the Top 50.

I mean I'm not saying I'd take him vs. the field or something, but at 65-1 it doesn't cost you a lot to roll the dice. I assume the first-timer thing is built into those odds. He's 5th in strokes gained-putting, so he's got that going for him.

Also, think of all the Good Times jokes/headlines.

 

[Dark Matter]

This is for intellegent Tiger Woods discussion please and thank you.

 

[Apple Jack]

"Mom! Break out the Kool-Aid!"

 

[Johnny Rock]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/masters--ticket-prices-drop-in-wake-of-tigers--absence-154420120.html

If any golf bandwagoner's don't think The Masters is worth going to because Tiger won't be there, I'll take your ticket. Thanks.

 

[Johnny Rock]

I bought my Masters futures tickets last week at Caesars. Looking for value.

Ended up with:

Cabrera 40-1

Fowler 65-1

T Olesen 125-1

 

[Apple Jack]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/masters--ticket-prices-drop-in-wake-of-tigers--absence-154420120.html

If any golf bandwagoner's don't think The Masters is worth going to because Tiger won't be there, I'll take your ticket. Thanks.

You can buy tickets to the Masters if it's worth going to you.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Rumors are that Tiger is dumping Foley, it will be interesting to see who he goes to next.

Whether you root for or against him, whether you are a serious or casual fan, it sucks that Tiger is going to be out for a while. Tiger is great for the game.

Don't understand how anyone could disagree with this.

I don't really follow golf but am a huge sports fan.

He hasn't won one of the majors in 6 years if I heard right so to me, the casual golf fan, he's just another one of the good players. I'm sure there are tons of stats out there that say he's the best player or whatever but when I have watched he's just been another good player out there for more than half a decade now.

When I do watch it's usually one of the majors where what I remember is that he acts like a complete ##### throwing tantrums, looks like he is always pissed. Not a big deal but does not make him likable to me.

Top that with his absolute lack of a personality, that he never says anything remotely interesting, that he seems like a scumbag in his personal life and that I have to hear about him nonstop on ESPN and I really don't care about this guy at all. In fact I really just get tired of hearing about him.

Just my 2 cents as to why people don't care about him or even may root against him.

You're welcome to like or dislike anyone you want for any reason, but just FYI the bolded narrative is mostly a media creation, or a case where the only reason you hear about it is because he's Tiger. For example Bubba Watson throws HUGE hissy fits on the course on a regular basis, 10x worse than anything Tiger's ever done. But most people only know him as the guy who won the Masters with the crazy curved shot out of the woods and then got emotional about it and maybe you know he owns the General Lee, so everyone likes him and the scrutiny isn't the same as it is with the super-famous guy who has a dedicated camera crew on him every shot of every round.

I won't get into the "just another one of the good players now" thing. Obviously it's not true but I see how it would be your understanding if you only watched the big events.

Gonna have to ask you about the regular occuring hissy fits 10x worse than Tiger has ever done

 

[TobiasFunke]

Rumors are that Tiger is dumping Foley, it will be interesting to see who he goes to next.

Whether you root for or against him, whether you are a serious or casual fan, it sucks that Tiger is going to be out for a while. Tiger is great for the game.

Don't understand how anyone could disagree with this.

I don't really follow golf but am a huge sports fan.

He hasn't won one of the majors in 6 years if I heard right so to me, the casual golf fan, he's just another one of the good players. I'm sure there are tons of stats out there that say he's the best player or whatever but when I have watched he's just been another good player out there for more than half a decade now.

When I do watch it's usually one of the majors where what I remember is that he acts like a complete ##### throwing tantrums, looks like he is always pissed. Not a big deal but does not make him likable to me.

Top that with his absolute lack of a personality, that he never says anything remotely interesting, that he seems like a scumbag in his personal life and that I have to hear about him nonstop on ESPN and I really don't care about this guy at all. In fact I really just get tired of hearing about him.

Just my 2 cents as to why people don't care about him or even may root against him.

You're welcome to like or dislike anyone you want for any reason, but just FYI the bolded narrative is mostly a media creation, or a case where the only reason you hear about it is because he's Tiger. For example Bubba Watson throws HUGE hissy fits on the course on a regular basis, 10x worse than anything Tiger's ever done. But most people only know him as the guy who won the Masters with the crazy curved shot out of the woods and then got emotional about it and maybe you know he owns the General Lee, so everyone likes him and the scrutiny isn't the same as it is with the super-famous guy who has a dedicated camera crew on him every shot of every round.

I won't get into the "just another one of the good players now" thing. Obviously it's not true but I see how it would be your understanding if you only watched the big events.

Gonna have to ask you about the regular occuring hissy fits 10x worse than Tiger has ever done

Here's some google results First link gets into some detail about it.

 

[McGarnicle]

So Bubba's an ##### too. This excuses the behavior? Guess what, if you're going to yell and curse on the course all the time, and you're considered the best player of your generation, expect people to take notice. I don't see why he can't use the same will and determination he uses to perfect his swing and hit 1000 balls at the range after a round to also work on his sportsmanship and on-course demeanor.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Rumors are that Tiger is dumping Foley, it will be interesting to see who he goes to next.

Whether you root for or against him, whether you are a serious or casual fan, it sucks that Tiger is going to be out for a while. Tiger is great for the game.

Don't understand how anyone could disagree with this.

I don't really follow golf but am a huge sports fan.

He hasn't won one of the majors in 6 years if I heard right so to me, the casual golf fan, he's just another one of the good players. I'm sure there are tons of stats out there that say he's the best player or whatever but when I have watched he's just been another good player out there for more than half a decade now.

When I do watch it's usually one of the majors where what I remember is that he acts like a complete ##### throwing tantrums, looks like he is always pissed. Not a big deal but does not make him likable to me.

Top that with his absolute lack of a personality, that he never says anything remotely interesting, that he seems like a scumbag in his personal life and that I have to hear about him nonstop on ESPN and I really don't care about this guy at all. In fact I really just get tired of hearing about him.

Just my 2 cents as to why people don't care about him or even may root against him.

You're welcome to like or dislike anyone you want for any reason, but just FYI the bolded narrative is mostly a media creation, or a case where the only reason you hear about it is because he's Tiger. For example Bubba Watson throws HUGE hissy fits on the course on a regular basis, 10x worse than anything Tiger's ever done. But most people only know him as the guy who won the Masters with the crazy curved shot out of the woods and then got emotional about it and maybe you know he owns the General Lee, so everyone likes him and the scrutiny isn't the same as it is with the super-famous guy who has a dedicated camera crew on him every shot of every round.

I won't get into the "just another one of the good players now" thing. Obviously it's not true but I see how it would be your understanding if you only watched the big events.

Gonna have to ask you about the regular occuring hissy fits 10x worse than Tiger has ever done

Here's some google results First link gets into some detail about it.

Elkington deserved it (and it carried into the locker room where it involved PGA Tour officials)

The same fan clicking pictures deserved it (you call that a hissy fit?)

That whole page is these two incidents plus one from Billy Graham website about Bubba shouting out some scripture. If you call that first one 10x worse than Tiger...Tiger hissy fits

 

[TobiasFunke]

Rumors are that Tiger is dumping Foley, it will be interesting to see who he goes to next.

Whether you root for or against him, whether you are a serious or casual fan, it sucks that Tiger is going to be out for a while. Tiger is great for the game.

Don't understand how anyone could disagree with this.

I don't really follow golf but am a huge sports fan.

He hasn't won one of the majors in 6 years if I heard right so to me, the casual golf fan, he's just another one of the good players. I'm sure there are tons of stats out there that say he's the best player or whatever but when I have watched he's just been another good player out there for more than half a decade now.

When I do watch it's usually one of the majors where what I remember is that he acts like a complete ##### throwing tantrums, looks like he is always pissed. Not a big deal but does not make him likable to me.

Top that with his absolute lack of a personality, that he never says anything remotely interesting, that he seems like a scumbag in his personal life and that I have to hear about him nonstop on ESPN and I really don't care about this guy at all. In fact I really just get tired of hearing about him.

Just my 2 cents as to why people don't care about him or even may root against him.

You're welcome to like or dislike anyone you want for any reason, but just FYI the bolded narrative is mostly a media creation, or a case where the only reason you hear about it is because he's Tiger. For example Bubba Watson throws HUGE hissy fits on the course on a regular basis, 10x worse than anything Tiger's ever done. But most people only know him as the guy who won the Masters with the crazy curved shot out of the woods and then got emotional about it and maybe you know he owns the General Lee, so everyone likes him and the scrutiny isn't the same as it is with the super-famous guy who has a dedicated camera crew on him every shot of every round.

I won't get into the "just another one of the good players now" thing. Obviously it's not true but I see how it would be your understanding if you only watched the big events.

Gonna have to ask you about the regular occuring hissy fits 10x worse than Tiger has ever done

Here's some google results First link gets into some detail about it.

Elkington deserved it (and it carried into the locker room where it involved PGA Tour officials)

The same fan clicking pictures deserved it (you call that a hissy fit?)

That whole page is these two incidents plus one from Billy Graham website about Bubba shouting out some scripture. If you call that first one 10x worse than Tiger...Tiger hissy fits

Tiger curses? Oh, the horror!!!!! Won't someone please think of the children!!!!

Come on. I don't think any of what Tiger said was directed at the gallery. Watson got pissy with them twice in one round earlier this year, as described in that first story. And did you read in a couple of the other links where Watson's caddy threatened to quit unless he stopped being abusive? I seriously doubt that was over two incidents.

Is it literally 10X worse? Who knows, I didn't mean it to be an analytical approach. But the point, which was made in that story, is that Tiger is held to a completely different standard because it fits the narrative, and that if he did once what Bubba does semi-regularly the people who can't wait to trash him (cough,cough) would lose their minds.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

You're the one who brought up hissy fit, not me. Doesn't matter if it is directed at the gallery.

And do you really want to call it a hissy fit when the same guy tries to take a picture for a second time in two holes while Bubba is addressing the ball, and Bubba tells him directly? Really? That isn't a hissy fit. Bubba going ape #### after a bad shot and blaming the caddie? That is a hissy fit. Tiger cussing out after missing a two foot putt and blaming the green? That is a hissy fit.

 

[TheIronSheik]

You're the one who brought up hissy fit, not me. Doesn't matter if it is directed at the gallery.

And do you really want to call it a hissy fit when the same guy tries to take a picture for a second time in two holes while Bubba is addressing the ball, and Bubba tells him directly? Really? That isn't a hissy fit. Bubba going ape #### after a bad shot and blaming the caddie? That is a hissy fit. Tiger cussing out after missing a two foot putt and blaming the green? That is a hissy fit.

This is a good point. I've never seen Tiger hit a bad shot and not blame something other than himself. There's always an excuse. Miss a putt? Stand there and put on a show about how you can see the break going the other way. Yes. Physics hates Tiger Woods.

 

[TobiasFunke]

You're the one who brought up hissy fit, not me. Doesn't matter if it is directed at the gallery.

And do you really want to call it a hissy fit when the same guy tries to take a picture for a second time in two holes while Bubba is addressing the ball, and Bubba tells him directly? Really? That isn't a hissy fit. Bubba going ape #### after a bad shot and blaming the caddie? That is a hissy fit. Tiger cussing out after missing a two foot putt and blaming the green? That is a hissy fit.

Now we want to break down the definition of "hissy fit"? Come on.

It should be pretty clear to anyone who compares the two that Bubba's on course behavior is generally far worse than Tiger's, who at least doesn't direct his outbursts at other people. There's a ton of evidence just in the first few stories of a google search- not just the incidents themselves, but the commentator saying that they're pretty common for Bubba while the one at Riviera happens, and his caddy threatening to quit. The first story even made the comparison and pointed out the double standard.

It's cool that you're a Tiger hater, the sports world needs haters. But I didn't have you pegged as a juniorNB/lod1 type.

 

[mr roboto]

You're the one who brought up hissy fit, not me. Doesn't matter if it is directed at the gallery.

And do you really want to call it a hissy fit when the same guy tries to take a picture for a second time in two holes while Bubba is addressing the ball, and Bubba tells him directly? Really? That isn't a hissy fit. Bubba going ape #### after a bad shot and blaming the caddie? That is a hissy fit. Tiger cussing out after missing a two foot putt and blaming the green? That is a hissy fit.

This is a good point. I've never seen Tiger hit a bad shot and not blame something other than himself. There's always an excuse. Miss a putt? Stand there and put on a show about how you can see the break going the other way. Yes. Physics hates Tiger Woods.

I really don't like defending his personality or his character (from people I know around the Tour he's an ###) but he cusses himself out a lot. He's pretty self-critical actually. Now Sergio, he takes no blame.

 

[lod01]

You're the one who brought up hissy fit, not me. Doesn't matter if it is directed at the gallery.

And do you really want to call it a hissy fit when the same guy tries to take a picture for a second time in two holes while Bubba is addressing the ball, and Bubba tells him directly? Really? That isn't a hissy fit. Bubba going ape #### after a bad shot and blaming the caddie? That is a hissy fit. Tiger cussing out after missing a two foot putt and blaming the green? That is a hissy fit.

Now we want to break down the definition of "hissy fit"? Come on.

It should be pretty clear to anyone who compares the two that Bubba's on course behavior is generally far worse than Tiger's, who at least doesn't direct his outbursts at other people. There's a ton of evidence just in the first few stories of a google search- not just the incidents themselves, but the commentator saying that they're pretty common for Bubba while the one at Riviera happens, and his caddy threatening to quit. The first story even made the comparison and pointed out the double standard.

It's cool that you're a Tiger hater, the sports world needs haters. But I didn't have you pegged as a juniorNB/lod1 type.

We welcome Jules Winnfield into an elite group.

 

[zoonation]

Bubba Watson is the biggest knob on tour.

 

[Jayrok]

Bubba Watson is the biggest knob on tour.

He is? how so?

 

[Joe T]

So Tiger is officially out for all four majors?

 

[TheIronSheik]

So Tiger is officially out for all four majors?

Out of contention? Yes. Probably.