Tiger Woods (6 Viewers)

[Jules Winnfield]

Is WD some code term for quitter? Seriously, this is not a sport if you can quit because things aren't going your way. It is a

glorified hobby.

He doesn't want to finish at the bottom or miss the cut, so he takes his tiger club cover and goes home.

Meh, he actually wasn't scoring that terribly yesterday and his back legitimately seemed to be jacked up. Horschel was picking up his tees and the ball from the hole for him. That doesn't happen unless he's legitimately hurt.

So how do we explain the chipping woes? That wasn't a back issueHis drives last week weren't good and at the same time, he said he never felt better

 

[tommyboy]

Has another top pro ever had this run of injuries? Fred Couples has long history of back issues right? There has to be others.

Don't follow the sport super closely. Every one says his swing is "violent" but don't others swing hard too? Mickelson is out there with his D cups and seems good to go every couple of weeks.

you can have a violent swing (bubba, rory, mickelson, kaymer for example) and not have back problems. Tiger has this move in his swing where he drops his head down 6--7 inches on the downswing, not a good move imo, because in order to pull that off he's got to lean his upperbody away from the ball. So all his momentum is forward down and through the ball as his hips are swinging around, but his chest and upperbody is tilting backwards, creating a lot of unnecessary spine tilt at the exact same time your body is moving the fastest in the opposite direction.

the solution, is eliminate the dip and get the entire body moving in the same direction, back and forth.

 

[tommyboy]

Is WD some code term for quitter? Seriously, this is not a sport if you can quit because things aren't going your way. It is a

glorified hobby.

He doesn't want to finish at the bottom or miss the cut, so he takes his tiger club cover and goes home.

Meh, he actually wasn't scoring that terribly yesterday and his back legitimately seemed to be jacked up. Horschel was picking up his tees and the ball from the hole for him. That doesn't happen unless he's legitimately hurt.

So how do we explain the chipping woes? That wasn't a back issueHis drives last week weren't good and at the same time, he said he never felt better

maybe hes on drugs and jjust in total denial. who knows, but he's obviously not the tiger either physically or mentally that we used to know

 

[tommyboy]

Is WD some code term for quitter? Seriously, this is not a sport if you can quit because things aren't going your way. It is a

glorified hobby.

He doesn't want to finish at the bottom or miss the cut, so he takes his tiger club cover and goes home.

Meh, he actually wasn't scoring that terribly yesterday and his back legitimately seemed to be jacked up. Horschel was picking up his tees and the ball from the hole for him. That doesn't happen unless he's legitimately hurt.

he should just do like half the guys at my club, pop a percoset, eat a pot brownie and sip on vodka tonics all round long. that back would be fine

 

[Johnny Bing]

Is WD some code term for quitter? Seriously, this is not a sport if you can quit because things aren't going your way. It is a

glorified hobby.

He doesn't want to finish at the bottom or miss the cut, so he takes his tiger club cover and goes home.

Meh, he actually wasn't scoring that terribly yesterday and his back legitimately seemed to be jacked up. Horschel was picking up his tees and the ball from the hole for him. That doesn't happen unless he's legitimately hurt.

So how do we explain the chipping woes? That wasn't a back issueHis drives last week weren't good and at the same time, he said he never felt better

His justification on the chipping at Waste Management was because his new swing style he is coming in on the ball at a different angle, which in turn means his chipping is at the different angle also.

I think it was clear from yesterday that the chipping is not due to his back injury, but rather still a train wreck.

 

[BobbyLayne]

SportsCenter ‏@SportsCenter 54m

54 minutes ago
Crazy Stat of Day: Tiger Woods has now finished just 2 of his last 9 official starts on the PGA Tour, dating back to the start of 2014.

Details

Look back at the lows that Woods has suffered over the last year:

2014:

April 1 – Reveals he will miss US Masters for first time after undergoing surgery on a pinched nerve in his back.

May 28 – Announces he has still not recovered from back surgery and will miss the US Open at Pinehurst as a result.

July 20 – Finishes 69th in the Open at Royal Liverpool, his worst 72-hole finish in a major in the paid ranks.

August 3 – Withdraws during the final round of the WGC-Bridgestone Invitational in clear pain after hitting a shot.

August 8 – Misses just his fourth cut in 66 majors as a professional after suffering yet more back trouble at the US PGA Championship at Valhalla.

August 14 – Announces he does not wish to be considered for the Ryder Cup team due to a back injury, later revealing he did not feel he could have won a point for the United States.

August 25 – Ends professional relationship with swing coach Sean Foley.

November 22 – Appoints Chris Como as swing coach.

December 2 – Claims he ”feels fantastic” ahead of his long-awaited return to competitive golf.

2015:

January 9 – Confirms he will start his 2015 season at the Waste Management Phoenix Open.

January 30 – Records the worst round of his professional career with an 11-over par 82 in the second round of the Phoenix event.

February 5 – Withdraws from his next event, the Farmers Insurance Open, during the first round because of back pain.

 

[TheIronSheik]

SportsCenter ‏@SportsCenter 54m

54 minutes ago
Crazy Stat of Day: Tiger Woods has now finished just 2 of his last 9 official starts on the PGA Tour, dating back to the start of 2014.

Details

Look back at the lows that Woods has suffered over the last year:

2014:

April 1 – Reveals he will miss US Masters for first time after undergoing surgery on a pinched nerve in his back.

May 28 – Announces he has still not recovered from back surgery and will miss the US Open at Pinehurst as a result.

July 20 – Finishes 69th in the Open at Royal Liverpool, his worst 72-hole finish in a major in the paid ranks.

August 3 – Withdraws during the final round of the WGC-Bridgestone Invitational in clear pain after hitting a shot.

August 8 – Misses just his fourth cut in 66 majors as a professional after suffering yet more back trouble at the US PGA Championship at Valhalla.

August 14 – Announces he does not wish to be considered for the Ryder Cup team due to a back injury, later revealing he did not feel he could have won a point for the United States.

August 25 – Ends professional relationship with swing coach Sean Foley.

November 22 – Appoints Chris Como as swing coach.

December 2 – Claims he ”feels fantastic” ahead of his long-awaited return to competitive golf.

2015:

January 9 – Confirms he will start his 2015 season at the Waste Management Phoenix Open.

January 30 – Records the worst round of his professional career with an 11-over par 82 in the second round of the Phoenix event.

February 5 – Withdraws from his next event, the Farmers Insurance Open, during the first round because of back pain.

He's back, baby!

 

[mr roboto]

Weirdly though, doesnt Tiger have a bunch of wins and a few top 10 finishes in majors in the last 2-3 years?

He seems so far removed from that

Yes. He won the most tournaments in 2013. 5 of 16 entered. With 3 others being top 10. Named player of the year.His struggles now are so shocking because he hasn't been bad when healthy over the last 4 years. He's actually been the best on tour when healthy. Even when he's not at his best.

This current stretch is weird.

Huh? 2013 was the exception. He's been on a downward trajectory since 2010.

2010 0 wins, 2 Top 10's, missed cut at Quail Hollow and a WD at Players. Jim Furyk is Player of Year

2011 0 wins, 2 Top 10's.MC at PGA Champ, WD at Players. Luke Donald is Player of year

2012 3 wins, Nice 9 Top 10's,MC at Greenbrier, Wells Fargo, WD at WGC Cadillac. Rory is Player of teh Year

2013 5 wins, 8 Top 10's, no MC or WD, Tiger Woods is Player of the Year

2014 0 wins, 0 Top 10's, 2 MC and 2 WD. Rory is Player of the Year.

Look at 12 and 13. He wasn't winning majors but was 'backish'. There was some hope for a return to winning majors. Since then, back surgery and swing change. This isn't necessarily irreversible decline or dropping off the cliff. It may be but hardening Duval and IB Finch is a bit premature at this point and I believe will look like a huge overreaction in hindsight.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

If I had to choose someone to break Jack's record I would put my money on Rory over

Tiger. Interestingly enough, Tiger's game fell apart when leaving a woman while Rory's took off after doing the same.

A little different scenario there. Rory was casually dating andTiger was married.

Hadn't they sent out wedding invitations? Still, Rory did the right thing and stayed unmarried.

Yes, he dumped her over the phone a couple of days after the wedding invites had been mailed. Straight Gangsta

 

[Socrates11]

If I had to choose someone to break Jack's record I would put my money on Rory over

Tiger. Interestingly enough, Tiger's game fell apart when leaving a woman while Rory's took off after doing the same.

A little different scenario there. Rory was casually dating andTiger was married.

Hadn't they sent out wedding invitations? Still, Rory did the right thing and stayed unmarried.

Yes, he dumped her over the phone a couple of days after the wedding invites had been mailed. Straight Gangsta

This is straight gangsta phone breakup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjlE9ayXGX0

Around 0:45 mark...

 

[Joe T]

SportsCenter ‏@SportsCenter 54m

54 minutes ago
Crazy Stat of Day: Tiger Woods has now finished just 2 of his last 9 official starts on the PGA Tour, dating back to the start of 2014.

Details

Look back at the lows that Woods has suffered over the last year:

2014:

April 1 – Reveals he will miss US Masters for first time after undergoing surgery on a pinched nerve in his back.

May 28 – Announces he has still not recovered from back surgery and will miss the US Open at Pinehurst as a result.

July 20 – Finishes 69th in the Open at Royal Liverpool, his worst 72-hole finish in a major in the paid ranks.

August 3 – Withdraws during the final round of the WGC-Bridgestone Invitational in clear pain after hitting a shot.

August 8 – Misses just his fourth cut in 66 majors as a professional after suffering yet more back trouble at the US PGA Championship at Valhalla.

August 14 – Announces he does not wish to be considered for the Ryder Cup team due to a back injury, later revealing he did not feel he could have won a point for the United States.

August 25 – Ends professional relationship with swing coach Sean Foley.

November 22 – Appoints Chris Como as swing coach.

December 2 – Claims he ”feels fantastic” ahead of his long-awaited return to competitive golf.

2015:

January 9 – Confirms he will start his 2015 season at the Waste Management Phoenix Open.

January 30 – Records the worst round of his professional career with an 11-over par 82 in the second round of the Phoenix event.

February 5 – Withdraws from his next event, the Farmers Insurance Open, during the first round because of back pain.

He's back, baby!

Like a boss!!

 

[TheIronSheik]

SportsCenter ‏@SportsCenter 54m

54 minutes ago
Crazy Stat of Day: Tiger Woods has now finished just 2 of his last 9 official starts on the PGA Tour, dating back to the start of 2014.

Details

Look back at the lows that Woods has suffered over the last year:

2014:

April 1 – Reveals he will miss US Masters for first time after undergoing surgery on a pinched nerve in his back.

May 28 – Announces he has still not recovered from back surgery and will miss the US Open at Pinehurst as a result.

July 20 – Finishes 69th in the Open at Royal Liverpool, his worst 72-hole finish in a major in the paid ranks.

August 3 – Withdraws during the final round of the WGC-Bridgestone Invitational in clear pain after hitting a shot.

August 8 – Misses just his fourth cut in 66 majors as a professional after suffering yet more back trouble at the US PGA Championship at Valhalla.

August 14 – Announces he does not wish to be considered for the Ryder Cup team due to a back injury, later revealing he did not feel he could have won a point for the United States.

August 25 – Ends professional relationship with swing coach Sean Foley.

November 22 – Appoints Chris Como as swing coach.

December 2 – Claims he ”feels fantastic” ahead of his long-awaited return to competitive golf.

2015:

January 9 – Confirms he will start his 2015 season at the Waste Management Phoenix Open.

January 30 – Records the worst round of his professional career with an 11-over par 82 in the second round of the Phoenix event.

February 5 – Withdraws from his next event, the Farmers Insurance Open, during the first round because of back pain.

He's back, baby!

Like a boss!!

 

[Das Boot]

This pretty much tells you all you need to know... the fire is gone... it's out.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/golf-devil-ball-golf/woods--ex-coach-haney--tiger-s-not-concerned-with-major-record-143639783-golf.html

According to Woods' former coach Hank Haney, the 14-time major champion would be content with what he accomplished if he never pads his eye-popping resume.

On his SiriusXM radio show on Friday, Haney recalled a story from 2007 in which he was prodding Woods for his poor "work ethic."

"He said, 'If my career ended today, I'd be happy with what I've done,'" Haney said. "And I'm just telling you, that's what he told me. So I think he is fine with where he is. If his career ended today, I think he'd feel great about what he has done."

 

[SacramentoBob]

No reason for him to regret what he's accomplished in his career.

 

[Ghost Rider]

That doesn't surprise me. Priorities change, especially as you get older, and as much fire as he had in his younger day about breaking the majors record, maintaining that for decades is unrealistic to expect of anyone.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Best player ever, 2nd best career ... but to look at how it unwinded and not have regrets? If he doesn't now, he probably will as he gets older IMO.

 

[Mario Kart]

He should take a season off, try out in a baseball minor league, and retrieve the fire.

 

[McGarnicle]

I'm picturing a musical montage with Tiger lifting weights, guzzling kale and carrot juice, and sprinting up bleachers with a log on his back. As the music fades out, we see an extreme close-up of his face looking determined, and the camera pulls back gradually, revealing Tiger on the first tee at Augusta, driver in hand. He glances over at Morgan Freeman, and the two of them lock eyes and give a quick nod.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

How many coaches has he had since Haney?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Who would be on the list of the top 5 players of Tiger's "generation", however you define that? (After Tiger)

 

[Jack White]

Who would be on the list of the top 5 players of Tiger's "generation", however you define that? (After Tiger)

Phil

Vijay

Rory

Furyk

Adam

Off the top of my head, so I'm sure I've forgotten some other worthy candidates.

 

[mr roboto]

Phil

Vijay

Scott

Duval?

Furyk

 

[mr roboto]

Don't think Rory counts.

 

[grateful zed]

Don't think Rory counts.

would you say that to his face?

 

[Daywalker]

Who would be on the list of the top 5 players of Tiger's "generation", however you define that? (After Tiger)

Phil

Vijay

Rory

Furyk

Adam

Off the top of my head, so I'm sure I've forgotten some other worthy candidates.

Ernie maybe.

 

[Apple Jack]

Phil

Vijay

Scott

Duval?

Furyk

That would be my list. Maybe with Monty in for Furyk, but he was toward the end of his run when Tiger came along.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Don't think Rory counts.

I think he does. You don't think when he's getting ready to write down his score, he's not counting strokes in his head?Why? Do you think he's not smart or something?

 

[mr roboto]

Don't think Rory counts.

I think he does. You don't think when he's getting ready to write down his score, he's not counting strokes in his head?Why? Do you think he's not smart or something?

Nope. He has a caddie.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Don't think Rory counts.

I think he does. You don't think when he's getting ready to write down his score, he's not counting strokes in his head?Why? Do you think he's not smart or something?

Nope. He has a caddie.

You hear that boys? If you drive a Cadillac, you aren't capable of counting.

 

[matuski]

Phil

Vijay

Scott

Duval?

Furyk

That would be my list. Maybe with Monty in for Furyk, but he was toward the end of his run when Tiger came along.

Ernie Els should be on it imo.

 

[matuski]

Phil

Vijay

Scott

Duval?

Furyk

That would be my list. Maybe with Monty in for Furyk, but he was toward the end of his run when Tiger came along.

Ernie Els should be on it imo.

Having said that, the only contemporary "rival" he had was Phil. Was a fun rivalry imo.

 

[Jack White]

Who would be on the list of the top 5 players of Tiger's "generation", however you define that? (After Tiger)

Phil

Vijay

Rory

Furyk

Adam

Off the top of my head, so I'm sure I've forgotten some other worthy candidates.

Ernie maybe.

Definitely. Knew I would forget a big one. Thanks.

 

[McGarnicle]

Phil

Vijay

Scott

Duval?

Furyk

That would be my list. Maybe with Monty in for Furyk, but he was toward the end of his run when Tiger came along.

Ernie Els should be on it imo.

Having said that, the only contemporary "rival" he had was Phil. Was a fun rivalry imo.

Yeah, it was fun seeing Phil rally to within 2 strokes on Saturday, then you got all excited to watch on Sunday, pour yourself a tall beer, turn on the TV and Tiger's ahead by 10 before they reach the back 9.

 

[matuski]

Phil

Vijay

Scott

Duval?

Furyk

That would be my list. Maybe with Monty in for Furyk, but he was toward the end of his run when Tiger came along.

Ernie Els should be on it imo.

Having said that, the only contemporary "rival" he had was Phil. Was a fun rivalry imo.

Yeah, it was fun seeing Phil rally to within 2 strokes on Saturday, then you got all excited to watch on Sunday, pour yourself a tall beer, turn on the TV and Tiger's ahead by 10 before they reach the back 9.

I kept watching, would do so again.

 

[Otis]

For the sake of the fun of watching golf on TV, I really hope Tiger has an epic turnaround here. Heads would be exploding all over the sports world, and this thread would be bananas. Fingers crossed that the GOAT starts showing his old form again.

 

[McGarnicle]

Phil

Vijay

Scott

Duval?

Furyk

That would be my list. Maybe with Monty in for Furyk, but he was toward the end of his run when Tiger came along.

Ernie Els should be on it imo.

Having said that, the only contemporary "rival" he had was Phil. Was a fun rivalry imo.

Yeah, it was fun seeing Phil rally to within 2 strokes on Saturday, then you got all excited to watch on Sunday, pour yourself a tall beer, turn on the TV and Tiger's ahead by 10 before they reach the back 9.

I kept watching, would do so again.

Me too, frustrated the hell out of me that Tiger's best rival seemed to lose his balls come crunch time though. Phil would win as long as Tiger was nowhere near the lead.

 

[McGarnicle]

Fingers crossed that the GOAT starts showing his old form again.

Jack is 75. :(

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

For the sake of the fun of watching golf on TV, I really hope Tiger has an epic turnaround here. Heads would be exploding all over the sports world, and this thread would be bananas. Fingers crossed that the GOAT starts showing his old form again.

A lot can happen over time.

One day, maybe in a major 5 years from now, we will see him explode to the lead, and I think we will all be cheering for him then.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Looking forward to springtime. Can't wait to try my new golf swing while I activate my glutes. I may have finally figured this game out.

You have to hold your ring with a G insignia towards the sun and shout out, "Glute powers activated!"

 

[culdeus]

Who would be on the list of the top 5 players of Tiger's "generation", however you define that? (After Tiger)

Phil

VJ

big gap

Els

Goosen

Toms

Tiger has been completely irrelevant since Rory's rise. Same with Watson, Scott, etc.

 

[General Tso]

Looking forward to springtime. Can't wait to try my new golf swing while I activate my glutes. I may have finally figured this game out.

You have to hold your ring with a G insignia towards the sun and shout out, "Glute powers activated!"

Shape of - a 3 wood!

 

[lod01]

Fingers crossed that the GOAT starts showing his old form again.

Jack is 75. :(

Right now there is no debate about it. Woods has had an unprecedented loss of skills and at the age of 35-39. Jack was still hoisting majors. When you want to compare greatest, you compare the whole career. The greatest cannot melt down like Woods has. All you have it 'the greatest short run of wins in golf history.

 

[mr roboto]

Fingers crossed that the GOAT starts showing his old form again.

Jack is 75. :(

Right now there is no debate about it. Woods has had an unprecedented loss of skills and at the age of 35-39. Jack was still hoisting majors. When you want to compare greatest, you compare the whole career. The greatest cannot melt down like Woods has. All you have it 'the greatest short run of wins in golf history.

While I agree Jack is the GOAT your bolded statement calls into question your understanding of the word 'short.'

 

[zoonation]

The majors question is over. The real question now is whether he catches Snead. I'd say it is a long shot right now.

 

[lod01]

Fingers crossed that the GOAT starts showing his old form again.

Jack is 75. :(

Right now there is no debate about it. Woods has had an unprecedented loss of skills and at the age of 35-39. Jack was still hoisting majors. When you want to compare greatest, you compare the whole career. The greatest cannot melt down like Woods has. All you have it 'the greatest short run of wins in golf history.

While I agree Jack is the GOAT your bolded statement calls into question your understanding of the word 'short.'

Late '99 to 2002. 7 majors in under 4 years. I was talking majors only . 1/2 this guys PGA wins came at a handful of courses. Jack won everywhere. Now this guy can't even make cuts at those handful of courses.

 

[Jack White]

The majors question is over. The real question now is whether he catches Snead. I'd say it is a long shot right now.

How many behind Snead is he?

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Catching Jack is over, the real question is will Tiger ever win another major. I wouldn't bet against but not sure I would lay any money on it either.

 

[mr roboto]

Tiger has the best winning percentage in golf history and is second in total wins in golf history. There's no way you can take either of those stats and make them sound like he hasn't been the second greatest player of all-time and arguably the most talented and dominant player of all time. Anybody who tries to do that is either an idiot or a troll.

None of that has anything to do with his recent struggles although I suspect that claims of his imminent demise are over stated, but whenever a great player in any sport show signs of decline everybody jumps on as if they're not great. See also Manning, Peyton.

 

[lod01]

Catching Jack is over, the real question is will Tiger ever win another major. I wouldn't bet against but not sure I would lay any money on it either.

He can't hit a fairway AND he has no short game. Many players are smoking him on the drive now. Forget the USA Open. He will just hurt himself if he plays there. His only chances are maybe a links course where Watson made a run a few years back and outside shot at a Masters. There will be no dominate performances. It will be a win where it all came together (and what are the odds of that happening) and he squeaks out the win vs todays best.

 

[lod01]

Tiger has the best winning percentage in golf history and is second in total wins in golf history. There's no way you can take either of those stats and make them sound like he hasn't been the second greatest player of all-time and arguably the most talented and dominant player of all time. Anybody who tries to do that is either an idiot or a troll.

None of that has anything to do with his recent struggles although I suspect that claims of his imminent demise are over stated, but whenever a great player in any sport show signs of decline everybody jumps on as if they're not great. See also Manning, Peyton.

His win percentage will drop dramatically now because, well, he can't win. He will own that record for sure but by the time he's done it won't look as magnificent as it once did. His problem is that he needs to play more because he isn't what he once was. Of course, the more he plays, the more he loses and the faster that win % drops.