Based on your posts in this thread, I can't take anything you say about golf seriously. Tiger has always had times in his career when he has struggled with driving, and this week he is playing horribly. He is still 6 off the lead after playing brutal all week. He will figure it out...he always does.At least let him play half a year before writing him off.Nice drive into the trees followed up w. He can't hit a fairway and is still within 6 of the lead afterith a seemingly simple shot he shanks into the water.
Based on my posts? Seriously? The guy looks terrible today. He keeps bailing himself out. He looks defeated out there.Based on your posts in this thread, I can't take anything you say about golf seriously. Tiger has always had times in his career when he has struggled with driving, and this week he is playing horribly. He is still 6 off the lead after playing brutal all week. He will figure it out...he always does.At least let him play half a year before writing him off.Nice drive into the trees followed up w. He can't hit a fairway and is still within 6 of the lead afterith a seemingly simple shot he shanks into the water.
Great observation.You could even go so far as to say he looks "career defeated".Based on my posts? Seriously? The guy looks terrible today. He keeps bailing himself out. He looks defeated out there.Based on your posts in this thread, I can't take anything you say about golf seriously. Tiger has always had times in his career when he has struggled with driving, and this week he is playing horribly. He is still 6 off the lead after playing brutal all week. He will figure it out...he always does.At least let him play half a year before writing him off.Nice drive into the trees followed up w. He can't hit a fairway and is still within 6 of the lead afterith a seemingly simple shot he shanks into the water.
Yeah, seriously. You are arguing that he is done based on the fact that he hasn't performed at a god-like level for the last couple of months..although he did win Bay Hill and always finishes in top ten. You said he was done being dominant...which shows a total lack of perspective and acumen about the game of golf generally and Tiger's game specifically. He has struggled lately...no doubt. Your thread is ridiculous though.Based on my posts? Seriously? The guy looks terrible today. He keeps bailing himself out. He looks defeated out there.Based on your posts in this thread, I can't take anything you say about golf seriously. Tiger has always had times in his career when he has struggled with driving, and this week he is playing horribly. He is still 6 off the lead after playing brutal all week. He will figure it out...he always does.At least let him play half a year before writing him off.Nice drive into the trees followed up w. He can't hit a fairway and is still within 6 of the lead afterith a seemingly simple shot he shanks into the water.
I watched every stroke. I feel even better about the thread this evening than I did on Friday. Lots of denial in this thread. Remember Mike Tyson? How long did it take for some people to let go?He looked bad today. Finless as usual spot-on.
Finless - you are a gambler aren't you?I watched every stroke. I feel even better about the thread this evening than I did on Friday. Lots of denial in this thread. Remember Mike Tyson? How long did it take for some people to let go?He looked bad today. Finless as usual spot-on.
I play poker and do some gambling. I'm enough of a "gambler" to know what a sucker bet is.Finless - you are a gambler aren't you?I watched every stroke. I feel even better about the thread this evening than I did on Friday. Lots of denial in this thread. Remember Mike Tyson? How long did it take for some people to let go?He looked bad today. Finless as usual spot-on.
Was thinking you'd reply with some sucker bet.Finless - I don't follow your comment. Can you explain?
He's a semi-professional fisherman I believe.Nets, dynamite, whatever it takes.Finless - you are a gambler aren't you?I watched every stroke. I feel even better about the thread this evening than I did on Friday. Lots of denial in this thread. Remember Mike Tyson? How long did it take for some people to let go?He looked bad today. Finless as usual spot-on.
No I sent you a PM with a legit bet if you think he's done.Was thinking you'd reply with some sucker bet.Finless - I don't follow your comment. Can you explain?
You say Tiger is done. I'll bet you $100 he wins a tournament before the end of the year. Waddya say?
My prediction.... No bet!No I sent you a PM with a legit bet if you think he's done.Was thinking you'd reply with some sucker bet.Finless - I don't follow your comment. Can you explain?
You say Tiger is done. I'll bet you $100 he wins a tournament before the end of the year. Waddya say?
In Finless' hands. Legit offer made.My prediction.... No bet!No I sent you a PM with a legit bet if you think he's done.Was thinking you'd reply with some sucker bet.Finless - I don't follow your comment. Can you explain?
You say Tiger is done. I'll bet you $100 he wins a tournament before the end of the year. Waddya say?
Couple problems here. We'd have to wait another 15 years potentially. What does Woods need to break it 5 more? I wouldn't take that bet. Too much money, too long to wait and you're from the internet. If you think it's a stretch to say he won;t break the record catch some of the articles out there. Also look up his odds to win majors.In Finless' hands. Legit offer made.My prediction.... No bet!No I sent you a PM with a legit bet if you think he's done.Was thinking you'd reply with some sucker bet.Finless - I don't follow your comment. Can you explain?
You say Tiger is done. I'll bet you $100 he wins a tournament before the end of the year. Waddya say?
Understand ...so this statement above was fishing then right? I will be glad to to put a limit on the timeframe - say six years from now? And adjust the bet amount closer to something with which you are comfortable.He's done. He'll be competitive but he lost the fear factor. Looks like The Gold Bear might be out of the woods.
Fishing? Did you miss the bolded? If you really want to gamble with me on Tiger we'll just have to take a look at his odds on the next tourney. This long term stuff doesn't work for me.Understand ...so this statement above was fishing then right? I will be glad to to put a limit on the timeframe - say six years from now? And adjust the bet amount closer to something with which you are comfortable.He's done. He'll be competitive but he lost the fear factor. Looks like The Gold Bear might be out of the woods.
Whoa cowboy - not lookin' for an ifight here. The point to this thread that you opened is clear - that Tiger's chances of breaking Jack's record aren't looking so good anymore. I like his chances quite a bit and extended a bet via PM. I didn't call you out. Let's not turn a "Joan" here and make this about the next tourney he plays.Fishing? Did you miss the bolded? If you really want to gamble with me on Tiger we'll just have to take a look at his odds on the next tourney. This long term stuff doesn't work for me.Understand ...so this statement above was fishing then right? I will be glad to to put a limit on the timeframe - say six years from now? And adjust the bet amount closer to something with which you are comfortable.He's done. He'll be competitive but he lost the fear factor. Looks like The Gold Bear might be out of the woods.
Oh no fight intended whatsoever. I think they're are clearly 3 groups here. I am not alone. One group sees Tiger recovering - he'll be back dominating in no time. Another group sees him in a decline and that a combination of better players, a bad wheel and weakened confidence will have him much less competitive in the coming years. Then there's the group who really doesn't know.I'm not alone here. There's plenty of talk about Tiger's decline. Finishing in the top 5 or 10 isn't winning. He's a warrior but there's seems to be a tick getting in the way. He might turn it around but I wouldn't put my money there.Whoa cowboy - not lookin' for an ifight here. The point to this thread that you opened is clear - that Tiger's chances of breaking Jack's record aren't looking so good anymore. I like his chances quite a bit and extended a bet via PM. I didn't call you out. Let's not turn a "Joan" here and make this about the next tourney he plays.Fishing? Did you miss the bolded? If you really want to gamble with me on Tiger we'll just have to take a look at his odds on the next tourney. This long term stuff doesn't work for me.Understand ...so this statement above was fishing then right? I will be glad to to put a limit on the timeframe - say six years from now? And adjust the bet amount closer to something with which you are comfortable.He's done. He'll be competitive but he lost the fear factor. Looks like The Gold Bear might be out of the woods.
The minor flaw in your theory is the amount of time you've allotted to Tiger to make a full time dominating return to the tour.Oh no fight intended whatsoever. I think they're are clearly 3 groups here. I am not alone. One group sees Tiger recovering - he'll be back dominating in no time. Another group sees him in a decline and that a combination of better players, a bad wheel and weakened confidence will have him much less competitive in the coming years. Then there's the group who really doesn't know.I'm not alone here. There's plenty of talk about Tiger's decline. Finishing in the top 5 or 10 isn't winning. He's a warrior but there's seems to be a tick getting in the way. He might turn it around but I wouldn't put my money there.Whoa cowboy - not lookin' for an ifight here. The point to this thread that you opened is clear - that Tiger's chances of breaking Jack's record aren't looking so good anymore. I like his chances quite a bit and extended a bet via PM. I didn't call you out. Let's not turn a "Joan" here and make this about the next tourney he plays.Fishing? Did you miss the bolded? If you really want to gamble with me on Tiger we'll just have to take a look at his odds on the next tourney. This long term stuff doesn't work for me.Understand ...so this statement above was fishing then right? I will be glad to to put a limit on the timeframe - say six years from now? And adjust the bet amount closer to something with which you are comfortable.He's done. He'll be competitive but he lost the fear factor. Looks like The Gold Bear might be out of the woods.
The only part you got right was that he looked bad today.Though, did anyone notice his record at this tournament? Its not that good in the first place.He looked bad today. Finless as usual spot-on.
I guess I'm missing something when the guy needs an excuse for winning one and finishing top 10 in the other 6 events he has played in.A lot of people trying to make excuses for Tiger right now.
About to head down the links in a few.Have any of those hating on Tiger ever been a serious golfer?
What's the record for consecutive Top Tens? He's got 17 straight in stroke play events (won 10 of them).He's not quite right for sure. First day it was putting, missed 7 birdie putts inside 12 feet. Yesterday everything was 'spinners to the right' as he put it. Still grinds it out even when he's not hitting on all cylinders.I thought one of the best times to watch Tiger was not the dominant periods like 2000-01 or after he broke the majors drought, but during the 2003-04 when he wasn't winning majors. Even when his swing is off and the putts aren't dropping, he is a treat to watch. I've seen all the supposed great ones of this generation pull a Daly when they are out of contention. No one ever takes them (Els, Mickelson, Singh) to task for mailing in a round. Woods grinds it out no matter where he is at in a tourney.Never bet against him. He's got plenty left IMO.I guess I'm missing something when the guy needs an excuse for winning one and finishing top 10 in the other 6 events he has played in.A lot of people trying to make excuses for Tiger right now.
The guy just doesn't really have a true talent for golf. Most, if not all of his wins on tour have been an uncanny run of luck.A lot of people trying to make excuses for Tiger right now.
That is some seriously stinky bait.The guy just doesn't really have a true talent for golf. Most, if not all of his wins on tour have been an uncanny run of luck.A lot of people trying to make excuses for Tiger right now.
About to head down the links in a few.Have any of those hating on Tiger ever been a serious golfer?
So what's your freakin' point? There's only 4 things to consider here:1) Talent levelTiger's swing, especially with the driver, does go in and out. It always has. He can miss big time off the tee. He has repeatedly gone through periods where he gets stuck with his irons and blocks out to the rights. Those weeks - he still grinds/competes and usually finishes in the top 10, hardly ever missing a cut. But even he can't win the weeks he's swinging poorly. This is clearly nothing new for him. The weeks he is swinging on plane and putting well? Game over. That happens historically 25%+ of the time - hence his lifetime, incredible win percentage. Nothing has changed. Lots of players have pretty swings. Nobody is even on the same planet as this guy when it comes to mental toughness. Nobody. And that's the difference.2) DedicationSupposedly he's working harder on his game and fitness level than ever. He's already won tourneys (including a major) after Sam was born, so to think that this would interfere with his competitive desire is nonsense. Nothing's changed with his playing schedule and his will to be the best.3) CompetitionOne can argue that competition is tougher, but I don't buy it. They just rotate. Vijay, Phil, Sergio, Padraig, Stenson, etc - they play great in stretches then fall by the wayside. Tiger is the one constant. 4) AgeHe's young at 33, and at a minimum has 12 (I say longer) years to contend in majors. That's 48. So if you say he's got a 25% chance (his winning percentage) during his peak years (through age 40) that's 28 majors, and he will win about 7 of those by age 40. That obliterates Jack's record. And does anybody think he'll blank after age 40 when Kenny Perry and others have contended close to 50? He's got time.The only outlier is health. If he stays healthy, the above 4 truisms will apply.About to head down the links in a few.Have any of those hating on Tiger ever been a serious golfer?
Fisherman out with the local inspector, who's investigating his fishing technique ...fisherman lights a stick of dynamite, hands it to the inspector and says, "you gonna talk, or fish?"---He's a semi-professional fisherman I believe.
Nets, dynamite, whatever it takes.
It's something stupid high like 71 or something from Nelson. Nobody will ever get halfway there again.What's the record for consecutive Top Tens?I guess I'm missing something when the guy needs an excuse for winning one and finishing top 10 in the other 6 events he has played in.A lot of people trying to make excuses for Tiger right now.
He's got 17 straight in stroke play events (won 10 of them).He's not quite right for sure. First day it was putting, missed 7 birdie putts inside 12 feet. Yesterday everything was 'spinners to the right' as he put it. Still grinds it out even when he's not hitting on all cylinders.
I thought one of the best times to watch Tiger was not the dominant periods like 2000-01 or after he broke the majors drought, but during the 2003-04 when he wasn't winning majors. Even when his swing is off and the putts aren't dropping, he is a treat to watch. I've seen all the supposed great ones of this generation pull a Daly when they are out of contention. No one ever takes them (Els, Mickelson, Singh) to task for mailing in a round. Woods grinds it out no matter where he is at in a tourney.
Never bet against him. He's got plenty left IMO.
None of this sarcasm changes the fact that Tiger isn't the golfer he used to be. Sure he may be able to curl 120 on each arm but his swing has gone to ####. He spent his whole tournament bailing himself out of tough spots.We all know that Tiger doesn't work hard enough. Tiger can't even come close to comparing to the workout regimens of guys like John Daly, Angel Cabrera or Happy Gillmore.