Tiger Woods (2 Viewers)

[DiStefano]

Hard to defend that Tiger is something like 23 over on weekends in Majors the past several years. Not closing the deal. Announcer said it best that Tiger was open at address again and his accuracy suffered. His good shots go left and his bad shots go right. He was in the hay all day. Where is that 66-67 round on a weekend at?

He spent too much time in the hay with the broads; he got used to it.

 

[wildbill]

patience folks. has he not gotten better every year since the incident?

Based on what?

 

[Apple Jack]

patience folks. has he not gotten better every year since the incident?

Based on what?

Wins. And consistency.

 

[Nipsey]

Back channel, off-season reach out to Stevie upcoming. Triples percentage, Nike deal. Ego plus cash makes it impossible to turn down. LaCava to Scott, Nike smooths everything over by greasing PGA to break from USGA/R&A ban on long putter.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Back channel, off-season reach out to Stevie upcoming. Triples percentage, Nike deal. Ego plus cash makes it impossible to turn down. LaCava to Scott, Nike smooths everything over by greasing PGA to break from USGA/R&A ban on long putter.

Nips, this whole idea seems pretty half-baked.

 

[Nipsey]

Back channel, off-season reach out to Stevie upcoming. Triples percentage, Nike deal. Ego plus cash makes it impossible to turn down. LaCava to Scott, Nike smooths everything over by greasing PGA to break from USGA/R&A ban on long putter.

Nips, this whole idea seems pretty half-baked.

Scott placates LaCava with 1/2 price surf lessons.

 

[Apple Jack]

Back channel, off-season reach out to Stevie upcoming. Triples percentage, Nike deal. Ego plus cash makes it impossible to turn down. LaCava to Scott, Nike smooths everything over by greasing PGA to break from USGA/R&A ban on long putter.

Nips, this whole idea seems pretty half-baked.

Scott placates LaCava with 1/2 price surf lessons.

And weed.

 

[sho nuff]

By Tiger's own reckoning, the sole aim he had was not being #1, but beating Jack's record. So, at this point in time, he is still failing; doesn't mean he could not eventually do it, but what once seemed a virtual certainty seems to recede farther and farther as major after major goes by, and he is found wanting.

My God. Tiger has now failed in every major in the last five years. Does anyone really think he's thinking, "well, another major loss, but still #1 in the works. Yippee."? Lol. You Tiger-lovers crack me up. He can't buy a win in a big tournament. #1 is a farce.

Even takes time off of his vacation to troll Otis.

 

[Apple Jack]

I don't think there is irreparable damage between Tiger and Steve. They both run hot and Tiger definitely has a good sense of gallows humor. I think they could be fine if they both want it. That's a good call, Nips.

 

[Frostillicus]

Nips -> You ready for the Gophers in Maui?

 

[Nipsey]

Nips -> You ready for the Gophers in Maui?

So ready. Looks like maybe Jimmy's best ever.

 

[Nipsey]

I don't think there is irreparable damage between Tiger and Steve. They both run hot and Tiger definitely has a good sense of gallows humor. I think they could be fine if they both want it. That's a good call, Nips.

Just need a middle man to make each believe that the other guy is the one who wants reconciliation more. If someone can pull that off they'll be back to MMF's in no time.

 

[Frostillicus]

Nips -> You ready for the Gophers in Maui?

So ready. Looks like maybe Jimmy's best ever.

Should be a fun match-up. Cuse super deep up front, questions about the back court. Gophers super deep in the back court, lots of questions up front. I give the edge to Syracuse (Boeheim vs. Lil Pitino is no contest....yet) but looking forward to it.

 

[Nipsey]

Nips -> You ready for the Gophers in Maui?

So ready. Looks like maybe Jimmy's best ever.

Should be a fun match-up. Cuse super deep up front, questions about the back court. Gophers super deep in the back court, lots of questions up front. I give the edge to Syracuse (Boeheim vs. Lil Pitino is no contest....yet) but looking forward to it.

Gbinje supposedly looking like a stud. Can play the 1 if Ennis stumbles out the gate.

 

[Frostillicus]

Nips -> You ready for the Gophers in Maui?

So ready. Looks like maybe Jimmy's best ever.

Should be a fun match-up. Cuse super deep up front, questions about the back court. Gophers super deep in the back court, lots of questions up front. I give the edge to Syracuse (Boeheim vs. Lil Pitino is no contest....yet) but looking forward to it.

Gbinje supposedly looking like a stud. Can play the 1 if Ennis stumbles out the gate.

I forgot about that guy. Crap.

 

[Nipsey]

Nips -> You ready for the Gophers in Maui?

So ready. Looks like maybe Jimmy's best ever.

Should be a fun match-up. Cuse super deep up front, questions about the back court. Gophers super deep in the back court, lots of questions up front. I give the edge to Syracuse (Boeheim vs. Lil Pitino is no contest....yet) but looking forward to it.

Gbinje supposedly looking like a stud. Can play the 1 if Ennis stumbles out the gate.

I forgot about that guy. Crap.

We really are loaded up front though. Kind of sick. If the light comes on for DaJuan, watch out. Grant already a lottery pick next year in a few mocks.

 

[Frostillicus]

Nips -> You ready for the Gophers in Maui?

So ready. Looks like maybe Jimmy's best ever.

Should be a fun match-up. Cuse super deep up front, questions about the back court. Gophers super deep in the back court, lots of questions up front. I give the edge to Syracuse (Boeheim vs. Lil Pitino is no contest....yet) but looking forward to it.

Gbinje supposedly looking like a stud. Can play the 1 if Ennis stumbles out the gate.

I forgot about that guy. Crap.

We really are loaded up front though. Kind of sick. If the light comes on for DaJuan, watch out. Grant already a lottery pick next year in a few mocks.

Running a 2-3 zone with a team that's almost all 6-8 or bigger should be illegal.

Under Tubby we'd be doomed. Hopefully Pitino Jr. can talk to dad for some tips.

 

[zoonation]

I'm actually shocked at how badly he played today. I thought his game was right there. He is mentally lost on weekends at Majors. He will never be what he was. He isn't winning 5 more majors.

He is number 1 in the world and has still had the best year so far. But can anyone really claim he is dominant? Those days are gone. And rhetoric aside, that is what this thread was really about.

 

[Raider Nation]

I'm actually shocked at how badly he played today.

Gbinije?

 

[Zow]

Tigers the #1 choker in majors, so he's got that going for him.

And Jordan and Kobe have missed the most buzzer beater shots. What's your point?

 

[drummer]

I suspect people who are pimping his number 1 ranking, while glossing over the fact that he can't win majors anymore, are the same people who would applaud the Patriots for their 88-24 over the last seven seasons and forget to mention how they haven't won a Super Bowl in nearly a decade.

That's what you would suspect.

Good afternoon Drummer!! Lovely day isn't it?

Mickleson shot a 66. It's a was a terrific Sunday. Even better that I have trolls thinking I was rooting for Tiger.

 

[drummer]

Tigers the #1 choker in majors, so he's got that going for him.

And Jordan and Kobe have missed the most buzzer beater shots. What's your point?

His point is he just had to post in this thread.

 

[dparker713]

Tigers the #1 choker in majors, so he's got that going for him.

And Jordan and Kobe have missed the most buzzer beater shots. What's your point?

You know, in majors Jack finished 2nd 19 times and 3rd 9 times. He's obviously a choker too.

 

[drummer]

Tigers the #1 choker in majors, so he's got that going for him.

And Jordan and Kobe have missed the most buzzer beater shots. What's your point?

You know, in majors Jack finished 2nd 19 times and 3rd 9 times. He's obviously a choker too.

ILUV doesn't care about that. He just didn't want to be left out of this awesome thread.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Looks like Phil will catch Tiger before Tiger catches Jack.

 

[Otis]

Back channel, off-season reach out to Stevie upcoming. Triples percentage, Nike deal. Ego plus cash makes it impossible to turn down. LaCava to Scott, Nike smooths everything over by greasing PGA to break from USGA/R&A ban on long putter.

Nips, this whole idea seems pretty half-baked.

Scott placates LaCava with 1/2 price surf lessons.

Someone pls put this into one of those three-pane cartoons. Make Pickles the lemonhead character.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

patience folks. has he not gotten better every year since the incident?

Based on what?

Wins. And consistency.

 

[Short Corner]

Clearly Lindsey Vonn just isn't fat enough. :(

Going from his perfect 10 ex-wife to Vohn has to be one of the biggest downgrades in history.

Clearly Lindsey Vonn just isn't fat enough. :(

Going from his perfect 10 ex-wife to Vohn has to be one of the biggest downgrades in history.

I would not call hanging with someone that does not club one in the mouth a downgrade.

Hasn't yet

 

[McGarnicle]

Not to dredge this up again since my opinion of Tiger's conduct on the course has been made clear already...but it's noteworthy to me that he's not able to keep his emotions in check after a bad shot. Most of the time he looks tense and miserable, occasionally smiling after a good result but mostly scowling and looking like the weight of the world is on his shoulders. I've felt like that on the course after a string of bad shots, and usually I play like crap for the rest of the round. I notice most other elite golfers stay on a pretty even keel most of the time.

 

[John Bender]

Not to dredge this up again since my opinion of Tiger's conduct on the course has been made clear already...but it's noteworthy to me that he's not able to keep his emotions in check after a bad shot. Most of the time he looks tense and miserable, occasionally smiling after a good result but mostly scowling and looking like the weight of the world is on his shoulders. I've felt like that on the course after a string of bad shots, and usually I play like crap for the rest of the round. I notice most other elite golfers stay on a pretty even keel most of the time.

What Stricker did for his putting, Dufner could do for his head. He needs to get a few beers with that guy.

 

[McGarnicle]

Not to dredge this up again since my opinion of Tiger's conduct on the course has been made clear already...but it's noteworthy to me that he's not able to keep his emotions in check after a bad shot. Most of the time he looks tense and miserable, occasionally smiling after a good result but mostly scowling and looking like the weight of the world is on his shoulders. I've felt like that on the course after a string of bad shots, and usually I play like crap for the rest of the round. I notice most other elite golfers stay on a pretty even keel most of the time.

What Stricker did for his putting, Dufner could do for his head. He needs to get a few beers with that guy.

Tiger could also work on being gracious after he loses. As usual he came off as a colossal asspipe in yesterday's interview.

 

[mr roboto]

Not to dredge this up again since my opinion of Tiger's conduct on the course has been made clear already...but it's noteworthy to me that he's not able to keep his emotions in check after a bad shot. Most of the time he looks tense and miserable, occasionally smiling after a good result but mostly scowling and looking like the weight of the world is on his shoulders. I've felt like that on the course after a string of bad shots, and usually I play like crap for the rest of the round. I notice most other elite golfers stay on a pretty even keel most of the time.

I agree here 100%. That intensity is what used to propel him. Angry Tiger was dominant Tiger. But he's older, and as golfers age, they have to move from sheer athletic to more mental. I think he's still trying to be the younger version of himself. Maybe the biggest impediment to his beating the Golden Bear is his mind, which is insane considering that for years he had the strongest mental game in the world. I just don't think it is his personality to roll with it.

 

[lod01]

Not to dredge this up again since my opinion of Tiger's conduct on the course has been made clear already...but it's noteworthy to me that he's not able to keep his emotions in check after a bad shot. Most of the time he looks tense and miserable, occasionally smiling after a good result but mostly scowling and looking like the weight of the world is on his shoulders. I've felt like that on the course after a string of bad shots, and usually I play like crap for the rest of the round. I notice most other elite golfers stay on a pretty even keel most of the time.

What Stricker did for his putting, Dufner could do for his head. He needs to get a few beers with that guy.

I thoguht this guy was good enough to figure these things out himself. Seems like a total ham and egger now.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Clearly Lindsey Vonn just isn't fat enough. :(

Going from his perfect 10 ex-wife to Vohn has to be one of the biggest downgrades in history.

Clearly Lindsey Vonn just isn't fat enough. :(

Going from his perfect 10 ex-wife to Vohn has to be one of the biggest downgrades in history.

I would not call hanging with someone that does not club one in the mouth a downgrade.

Hasn't yet

And let's not forget that Vonn is an athlete, meaning it will do much more damage when it does happen.

 

[aesclepius]

Depends on club selection. If she only uses a gap wedge.....

 

[Apple Jack]

He's always blown up when he hit bad shots. That's not the issue. The issue is the pressure. His nerves are making him human. He needs a new horse whisperer type. Or Steve.

 

[bushdocda]

Don't see why Stevie would go back to TW.

 

[avoiding injuries]

Don't see why Stevie would go back to TW.

$$$

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Stat heard on the radio: -11 in the 1st two rounds of majors in the last year. +23 in the final two rounds.

oof.

 

[sho nuff]

Not to dredge this up again since my opinion of Tiger's conduct on the course has been made clear already...but it's noteworthy to me that he's not able to keep his emotions in check after a bad shot. Most of the time he looks tense and miserable, occasionally smiling after a good result but mostly scowling and looking like the weight of the world is on his shoulders. I've felt like that on the course after a string of bad shots, and usually I play like crap for the rest of the round. I notice most other elite golfers stay on a pretty even keel most of the time.

What Stricker did for his putting, Dufner could do for his head. He needs to get a few beers with that guy.

I thoguht this guy was good enough to figure these things out himself. Seems like a total ham and egger now.

Thanks FavreCo.

 

[Apple Jack]

Stat heard on the radio: -11 in the 1st two rounds of majors in the last year. +23 in the final two rounds.

oof.

That's probably not inconsistent with the rest of the field as the courses are generally tougher on the weekend, but yeah, not good.

 

[Nipsey]

He's always blown up when he hit bad shots. That's not the issue. The issue is the pressure. His nerves are making him human. He needs a new horse whisperer type. Or Steve.

It all started with the knee in 2008. He beats Mediate on one leg, has surgery and has to sit out the rest of the year. That was the first significant blow to his dominance. People say that his dad's death was the first blow but he was dominant for two years after that, probably because he still had a "protector" in his golf life (Williams) that allowed him to maintain that laser-like focus on winning. So the knee happens and when he returns in 2009 he's definitely and understandably taken a step back. He missed the cut at The Open that year and then loses a head to head dual with YE Yang that year at the PGA. The loss to YE Yang was the second significant blow, this time mental. The Terminator is seen as human, by the public and probably for the first time by Woods himself. A few months later comes the Thanksgiving confrontation with the wife along with the unraveling of his public image. Significant blows #3 and #4. The emotionally childish Tiger is now forced to be publicly contrite. His home life unravels. The one thing he could always count on, his on course dominance, is no longer. He's completely lost. In 2011 he hurts his leg again and while on the shelf, completely overreacts to Williams temporarily picking up another bag and fires him. Significant blow #5. His protector is now gone.

So here we are in 2013. Things seem calm in his personal life. His image has somewhat recovered. He's had time to adjust to the new guy on his bag. He starts the year strong with 4 wins and a near miss at Augusta. But it's obvious he's no longer the guy he was in 2008. He's suffered too much damage. He's eventually going to win a major but the Terminator is dead. Now he's just another really good player.

 

[DiStefano]

He's done. He'll be competitive but he lost the fear factor. Looks like The Gold Bear might be out of the woods.

Wow. 107 pages to get back to Finless on 27 May 2009.

 

[McGarnicle]

I think he will eventually win 2 or 3 more majors, tops. I'm assuming he realizes the mental game is what is holding him back and he starts to address it. But as his physical tools diminish he simply runs out of time and never catches Jack. Nonetheless, a good segment of observers will still say he was the best ever. But he dies empty and alone, viewing his life as a failure because he never broke the record.

Really looking forward to the PGA Championship you guys!!

 

[17seconds]

I say he packs it in and tries bowling

 

[zoonation]

He's always blown up when he hit bad shots. That's not the issue. The issue is the pressure. His nerves are making him human. He needs a new horse whisperer type. Or Steve.

It all started with the knee in 2008. He beats Mediate on one leg, has surgery and has to sit out the rest of the year. That was the first significant blow to his dominance. People say that his dad's death was the first blow but he was dominant for two years after that, probably because he still had a "protector" in his golf life (Williams) that allowed him to maintain that laser-like focus on winning. So the knee happens and when he returns in 2009 he's definitely and understandably taken a step back. He missed the cut at The Open that year and then loses a head to head dual with YE Yang that year at the PGA. The loss to YE Yang was the second significant blow, this time mental. The Terminator is seen as human, by the public and probably for the first time by Woods himself. A few months later comes the Thanksgiving confrontation with the wife along with the unraveling of his public image. Significant blows #3 and #4. The emotionally childish Tiger is now forced to be publicly contrite. His home life unravels. The one thing he could always count on, his on course dominance, is no longer. He's completely lost. In 2011 he hurts his leg again and while on the shelf, completely overreacts to Williams temporarily picking up another bag and fires him. Significant blow #5. His protector is now gone. So here we are in 2013. Things seem calm in his personal life. His image has somewhat recovered. He's had time to adjust to the new guy on his bag. He starts the year strong with 4 wins and a near miss at Augusta. But it's obvious he's no longer the guy he was in 2008. He's suffered too much damage. He's eventually going to win a major but the Terminator is dead. Now he's just another really good player.

Bang on.

An argument can be made that he is the overall best player in the world right now when all the chips are counted, but he is not a dominant force anymore that crushes everything in his path. None of the top players are afraid of him anymore. And all of them, at their best, can beat him.

Pre-2008 he was the terminator, like you said.

 

[Apple Jack]

An argument can be made that he's the best player in the world, huh? Has anybody else won seven times in the last season and a half?

And all of them at their best cannot beat him when he is at his best. That's absurd.

 

[-jb-]

An argument can be made that he's the best player in the world, huh? Has anybody else won seven times in the last season and a half?

And all of them at their best cannot beat him when he is at his best. That's absurd.

When is that?

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

An argument can be made that he's the best player in the world, huh? Has anybody else won seven times in the last season and a half?

And all of them at their best cannot beat him when he is at his best. That's absurd.

for the first part, you are agreeing with him.

for the second part, he didn't say they could beat Tiger at his best. I assume if you think a guy is the best, then his best beats everyone.

 

[zoonation]

An argument can be made that he's the best player in the world, huh? Has anybody else won seven times in the last season and a half?

And all of them at their best cannot beat him when he is at his best. That's absurd.

The guy can't get it done on the biggest stage. Guys all around him are doing it. His weekend performance in the majors is abysmal. He's one of several great players right now, but I'm not annointing someone as the clear best in the world when they can't win the big one.

And, your reading comprehension needs work.