Tiger Woods (2 Viewers)

[Doug B]

I'm getting close to this. He simply can't hit a driver. You can't win majors like that (except for 06 British and that was a bizarre tournament). I also don't think his new swing is built to allow a good driver swing.

I thought more about this. His swing is built to compress (iron swing). He still has elite iron game. But for some reason (probably back and knee related) he can't clear onto that left leg and hit up against it (which is how you hit the driver - not downward strike but on the upswing). He can't compete with 2-iron stingers against Rory, DJ, Sergio, Bubba etc.I'd love to hear from some of you who actually know the golf swing if you agree or not.

For guys that know swings: does it seem more like he's lost torque while driving due to back issues, or that his left knee is not stable and is thus costing him precision/accuracy on drives?

Tiger's not likely to ever get back to his prime back & knee health again ... so where does that leave him?

 

[fantasycurse42]

Honest question, simple yay or nay... I'd actually like the OP to add this in, I don't think it is possible I'm in the minority.

Out of nowhere 5 years back, I can't believe it has come to this:

Does he win another major?

I'm voting no, wouldn't mind being wrong, but I'm not seeing it right now.

 

[Joe T]

I think the chances of major championship wins going forward for Tiger Woods are as follows:

0 Majors 70%

1 Major 20%

2 Majors 9.5%

3+ Majors 0.5%

I think I would update this now to

0 Majors 85%

1 Major 10%

2 Majors 4.5%

3+ Majors 0.5%

 

[DCThunder]

Other than Dufner, Reed, and maybe Jimmy Walker, most guys in the top 12 playing decently.

Huh?

I have to be misreading this.

Walker won two tournaments, back in early 2014, IIRC, and got a lot of Ryder Cup points for those wins. I don't recall seeing his name atop any leader boards since the tour left the West Coast. So while he is #2 in points, I don't think he is playing particularly well.

That's the problem with the Ryder Cup system. It takes two years worth of results, but doesn't factor in how a guy is playing NOW or in late September when the RC is actually played. This was supposed to be fixed by increasing the Captains Choice picks, but is they simply go to old warhorses like Phil or Tiger, then what's the point?

 

[Joe T]

Other than Dufner, Reed, and maybe Jimmy Walker, most guys in the top 12 playing decently.

Huh?

I have to be misreading this.

Walker won two tournaments, back in early 2014, IIRC, and got a lot of Ryder Cup points for those wins. I don't recall seeing his name atop any leader boards since the tour left the West Coast. So while he is #2 in points, I don't think he is playing particularly well.

That's the problem with the Ryder Cup system. It takes two years worth of results, but doesn't factor in how a guy is playing NOW or in late September when the RC is actually played. This was supposed to be fixed by increasing the Captains Choice picks, but is they simply go to old warhorses like Phil or Tiger, then what's the point?

He finished 8th in the masters. 9th in the US Open. Was on page one of the leader board for much of the British but finished with a 73 in round 4 to finish 26th.

He has 3 wins this year and 8 top 10s. Not a lot of guys playing better than that.

ETA: He also finished 6th at The Players.

 

[joffer]

Honest question, simple yay or nay... I'd actually like the OP to add this in, I don't think it is possible I'm in the minority.

Out of nowhere 5 years back, I can't believe it has come to this:

Does he win another major?

I'm voting no, wouldn't mind being wrong, but I'm not seeing it right now.

If I had to bet right now, I'd say yes

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Honest question, simple yay or nay... I'd actually like the OP to add this in, I don't think it is possible I'm in the minority.

Out of nowhere 5 years back, I can't believe it has come to this:

Does he win another major?

I'm voting no, wouldn't mind being wrong, but I'm not seeing it right now.

If I had to bet right now, I'd say yes

I'd wait for Rory's dad's opinion.

 

[DiStefano]

Honest question, simple yay or nay... I'd actually like the OP to add this in, I don't think it is possible I'm in the minority.

Out of nowhere 5 years back, I can't believe it has come to this:

Does he win another major?

I'm voting no, wouldn't mind being wrong, but I'm not seeing it right now.

If I had to bet right now, I'd say yes

I'd wait for Rory's dad's opinion.

I'd take a flier on a 500-1 bet that Tiger wins another major.

 

[DCThunder]

Other than Dufner, Reed, and maybe Jimmy Walker, most guys in the top 12 playing decently.

Huh?

I have to be misreading this.

Walker won two tournaments, back in early 2014, IIRC, and got a lot of Ryder Cup points for those wins. I don't recall seeing his name atop any leader boards since the tour left the West Coast. So while he is #2 in points, I don't think he is playing particularly well.

That's the problem with the Ryder Cup system. It takes two years worth of results, but doesn't factor in how a guy is playing NOW or in late September when the RC is actually played. This was supposed to be fixed by increasing the Captains Choice picks, but is they simply go to old warhorses like Phil or Tiger, then what's the point?

He finished 8th in the masters. 9th in the US Open. Was on page one of the leader board for much of the British but finished with a 73 in round 4 to finish 26th.

He has 3 wins this year and 8 top 10s. Not a lot of guys playing better than that.

ETA: He also finished 6th at The Players.

DYNOMITE!

Ok, I was wrong. He should be the captain! ALL HAIL JIMMY WALKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Binky The Doormat]

Honest question, simple yay or nay... I'd actually like the OP to add this in, I don't think it is possible I'm in the minority.

Out of nowhere 5 years back, I can't believe it has come to this:

Does he win another major?

I'm voting no, wouldn't mind being wrong, but I'm not seeing it right now.

If I had to bet right now, I'd say yes

I'd wait for Rory's dad's opinion.

I'd take a flier on a 500-1 bet that Tiger wins another major.

Don't step up too much there ballsy.

I still think Tiger is going to break Jack's record.

No doubt, it doesn't look nearly as possible as it did five years ago. Injuries have been huge and the risk of them continuing is looming larger. One of his dominating strengths has always been his confidence/mental ability. If he can regain that, he has a good shot - and if anybody can regain it, it's Tiger.

I would like to see him make amends with Butch Harmon, it would be better for his game and be an important part of the overall healing process.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Other than Dufner, Reed, and maybe Jimmy Walker, most guys in the top 12 playing decently.

Huh?

I have to be misreading this.

Walker won two tournaments, back in early 2014, IIRC, and got a lot of Ryder Cup points for those wins. I don't recall seeing his name atop any leader boards since the tour left the West Coast. So while he is #2 in points, I don't think he is playing particularly well.

That's the problem with the Ryder Cup system. It takes two years worth of results, but doesn't factor in how a guy is playing NOW or in late September when the RC is actually played. This was supposed to be fixed by increasing the Captains Choice picks, but is they simply go to old warhorses like Phil or Tiger, then what's the point?

He finished 8th in the masters. 9th in the US Open. Was on page one of the leader board for much of the British but finished with a 73 in round 4 to finish 26th.

He has 3 wins this year and 8 top 10s. Not a lot of guys playing better than that.

ETA: He also finished 6th at The Players.

DYNOMITE!

Ok, I was wrong. He should be the captain! ALL HAIL JIMMY WALKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thinking we should have a separate PGA Tour thread since this stuff ends up getting discussed in here with the nonsense. I'll try to remember to start one in January.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Here are the current Ryder Cup standings as of 7/13/14:

Rank Player Events Points

1 Bubba Watson 18 6828.14

2 Jimmy Walker 22 5379.51

3 Dustin Johnson 19 4844.50

4 Matt Kuchar 21 4716.48

5 Jordan Spieth 23 4689.29

6 Jim Furyk 17 4302.83

7 Rickie Fowler 23 3831.43

8 Jason Dufner 18 3466.29

9 Zach Johnson 23 3396.18

10 Patrick Reed 20 3301.39

11 Brendon Todd 22 3177.98

12 Phil Mickelson 19 3095.09

13 Webb Simpson 21 3086.07

14 Chris Kirk 22 3038.95

15 Harris English 24 2966.57

16 Kevin Na 21 2831.24

17 Ryan Moore 22 2829.56

18 Keegan Bradley 24 2828.76

19 Erik Compton 22 2458.79

20 Matt Every 21 2429.78

21 Kevin Stadler 21 2257.58

22 Brian Harman 25 2209.25

23 Gary Woodland 19 2202.88

24 J.B. Holmes 18 2190.34

25 Kevin Streelman 22 2125.68

Other than Dufner, Reed, and maybe Jimmy Walker, most guys in the top 12 playing decently.

Top 9 qualify, so the question is which three should be Captain's Picks.

RC points end with the PGA, but the picks won't be made until they're in the middle of the FedEx playoffs. Right now Phil and Tiger have no top tens on the year, so not sure I'd want either one to be honest. But if either shows anything of their former selves they would quickly go to the top of the list.

Of the others I think Bradley, Moore and Simpson all deserve consideration if they play well in the next 6-7 weeks.

I think it's possible Tiger can have a second career, but from a historical viewpoint that's not what usually happens to the greatest golfers in history. Nicklaus and Player had longevity that spanned more than 20 years, and Trevino caught lightening in a bottle at the '84 PGA. But more often major championship golf careers are compressed into windows that last less than a decade. Palmer won all of his majors between 58-64, Watson 75-83, Hogan 46-53, Snead 6 out of 7 between 46-54.

Woods is already an exception to the historical trend, but it's rare for a major champion to go this long (6+ years) before resuming winning. The caveat is much of that time period he wasn't healthy. It's not like one aspect of his game fell apart like putting. It's not like he's missing 50% of fairways or a ton of greens. He's played exactly six rounds since having major surgery, so I'm not sure we know what to expect from him the rest of the year.

But I do think he has more majors in him. Does he have five? Seems unlikely, that is a heck of a career. But I'll be rooting for him to do it.

 

[ghostguy123]

I wonder if the same people trashing Tiger for this past weekend are the same people who will be mad when Gronk doesn't score them 30 points week 1.

 

[Zow]

I think the chances of major championship wins going forward for Tiger Woods are as follows:

0 Majors 70%

1 Major 20%

2 Majors 9.5%

3+ Majors 0.5%

I think I would update this now to

0 Majors 85%

1 Major 10%

2 Majors 4.5%

3+ Majors 0.5%

So you'd give 10-1 that he won't win another major?

 

[Joe T]

I think the chances of major championship wins going forward for Tiger Woods are as follows:

0 Majors 70%

1 Major 20%

2 Majors 9.5%

3+ Majors 0.5%

I think I would update this now to

0 Majors 85%

1 Major 10%

2 Majors 4.5%

3+ Majors 0.5%

So you'd give 10-1 that he won't win another major?

Are you asking me if I'm taking bets?

If so, no. I'm not a bookie. Now #### off.

 

[grateful zed]

why are you folks so worked up over this guy?

 

[urbanhack]

Tiger is running out of time. He will be 40 next year.

How's Furyk doing?

 

[Joe T]

Tiger is running out of time. He will be 40 next year.

How's Furyk doing?

He looks great for 57.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Tom Watson came within 4 of shooting his age. Let's see Tiger do that.

 

[tommyboy]

I hope I'm wrong, but I'm finally ready to throw in the towel here. He's toast.

I'm getting close to this. He simply can't hit a driver. You can't win majors like that (except for 06 British and that was a bizarre tournament). I also don't think his new swing is built to allow a good driver swing.

I thought more about this. His swing is built to compress (iron swing). He still has elite iron game. But for some reason (probably back and knew related) he can't clear onto that left leg and hit up against it (which is how you hit the driver - not downward strike but on the upswing). He can't compete with 2-iron stingers against Rory, DJ, Sergio, Bubba etc.I'd love to hear from some of you who actually know the golf swing if you agree or not.

I don't agree (regarding the swing). You can hit the ball a long way with a loose, full body swing (ie Vijay Singh, Jack Nicklaus) or you can use more of a technical "post up" swing such as you described (Adam Scott, Martin Kaymer, Tiger). The post up swing is the modern pro swing, but its not a necessity to a) hit it long and/or b) hit it accurately.

what he needs to do is get the idea firmly in his head that hitting the driver in play 70% of the time is more important than hitting it 50% of the time. His whole career he was able to win tournaments with low driver efficiencies because his short game was so good and he was 10-20 yards longer than the field.

He's not longer than the field anymore, and his short game isn't as good as it used to be, so to counteract those two realities he needs to increase his fairways hit and increase his proximity to the hole numbers. He went about 7 years without missing a 5 foot putt, now he misses a couple a day. You have to make up those two strokes somewhere, so take a clue from the crappy putters on the PGA tour, hit it straight and hit it close to the hole. Maybe he should consult Vijay or Robert Allenby.

 

[tommyboy]

Tom Watson came within 4 of shooting his age. Let's see Tiger do that.

64 yr old guy at my home course shot 63 couple weeks ago. Now that's something

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Tom Watson came within 4 of shooting his age. Let's see Tiger do that.

64 yr old guy at my home course shot 63 couple weeks ago. Now that's something

I'd like to see what Tom Watson could shoot at that "home course".

 

[mr roboto]

I hope I'm wrong, but I'm finally ready to throw in the towel here. He's toast.

I'm getting close to this. He simply can't hit a driver. You can't win majors like that (except for 06 British and that was a bizarre tournament). I also don't think his new swing is built to allow a good driver swing.

I thought more about this. His swing is built to compress (iron swing). He still has elite iron game. But for some reason (probably back and knew related) he can't clear onto that left leg and hit up against it (which is how you hit the driver - not downward strike but on the upswing). He can't compete with 2-iron stingers against Rory, DJ, Sergio, Bubba etc.I'd love to hear from some of you who actually know the golf swing if you agree or not.

I don't agree (regarding the swing). You can hit the ball a long way with a loose, full body swing (ie Vijay Singh, Jack Nicklaus) or you can use more of a technical "post up" swing such as you described (Adam Scott, Martin Kaymer, Tiger). The post up swing is the modern pro swing, but its not a necessity to a) hit it long and/or b) hit it accurately.

what he needs to do is get the idea firmly in his head that hitting the driver in play 70% of the time is more important than hitting it 50% of the time. His whole career he was able to win tournaments with low driver efficiencies because his short game was so good and he was 10-20 yards longer than the field.

He's not longer than the field anymore, and his short game isn't as good as it used to be, so to counteract those two realities he needs to increase his fairways hit and increase his proximity to the hole numbers. He went about 7 years without missing a 5 foot putt, now he misses a couple a day. You have to make up those two strokes somewhere, so take a clue from the crappy putters on the PGA tour, hit it straight and hit it close to the hole. Maybe he should consult Vijay or Robert Allenby.

I agree that the post up swing can be very effective. I just see him dropping way too much with the driver, getting stuck and flipping. He's not 'posting' after dropping nearly quick enough with the driver IMO. That straightening of the left leg is violent. I had a meniscus tear on left knee when I was 20 (I'm 31 now). It's hard to confidently post up with the driver now. I actually turn my left foot out a bit on the driver to ease rotation and clear to my left side. Otherwise I get stuck and block it.

Without clearing to the left side (or posting up with the rotational swing) you can't swing to the left. So enter the right hand rolling to make up for it.

 

[Binky The Doormat]

I hope I'm wrong, but I'm finally ready to throw in the towel here. He's toast.

I'm getting close to this. He simply can't hit a driver. You can't win majors like that (except for 06 British and that was a bizarre tournament). I also don't think his new swing is built to allow a good driver swing.

I thought more about this. His swing is built to compress (iron swing). He still has elite iron game. But for some reason (probably back and knew related) he can't clear onto that left leg and hit up against it (which is how you hit the driver - not downward strike but on the upswing). He can't compete with 2-iron stingers against Rory, DJ, Sergio, Bubba etc.I'd love to hear from some of you who actually know the golf swing if you agree or not.

I don't agree (regarding the swing). You can hit the ball a long way with a loose, full body swing (ie Vijay Singh, Jack Nicklaus) or you can use more of a technical "post up" swing such as you described (Adam Scott, Martin Kaymer, Tiger). The post up swing is the modern pro swing, but its not a necessity to a) hit it long and/or b) hit it accurately.

what he needs to do is get the idea firmly in his head that hitting the driver in play 70% of the time is more important than hitting it 50% of the time. His whole career he was able to win tournaments with low driver efficiencies because his short game was so good and he was 10-20 yards longer than the field.

He's not longer than the field anymore, and his short game isn't as good as it used to be, so to counteract those two realities he needs to increase his fairways hit and increase his proximity to the hole numbers. He went about 7 years without missing a 5 foot putt, now he misses a couple a day. You have to make up those two strokes somewhere, so take a clue from the crappy putters on the PGA tour, hit it straight and hit it close to the hole. Maybe he should consult Vijay or Robert Allenby.

I agree that the post up swing can be very effective. I just see him dropping way too much with the driver, getting stuck and flipping. He's not 'posting' after dropping nearly quick enough with the driver IMO. That straightening of the left leg is violent.I had a meniscus tear on left knee when I was 20 (I'm 31 now). It's hard to confidently post up with the driver now. I actually turn my left foot out a bit on the driver to ease rotation and clear to my left side. Otherwise I get stuck and block it.

Without clearing to the left side (or posting up with the rotational swing) you can't swing to the left. So enter the right hand rolling to make up for it.

Roboto - you seem to know a lot about the golf swing, how so?

 

[mr roboto]

I hope I'm wrong, but I'm finally ready to throw in the towel here. He's toast.

I'm getting close to this. He simply can't hit a driver. You can't win majors like that (except for 06 British and that was a bizarre tournament). I also don't think his new swing is built to allow a good driver swing.

I thought more about this. His swing is built to compress (iron swing). He still has elite iron game. But for some reason (probably back and knew related) he can't clear onto that left leg and hit up against it (which is how you hit the driver - not downward strike but on the upswing). He can't compete with 2-iron stingers against Rory, DJ, Sergio, Bubba etc.I'd love to hear from some of you who actually know the golf swing if you agree or not.

I don't agree (regarding the swing). You can hit the ball a long way with a loose, full body swing (ie Vijay Singh, Jack Nicklaus) or you can use more of a technical "post up" swing such as you described (Adam Scott, Martin Kaymer, Tiger). The post up swing is the modern pro swing, but its not a necessity to a) hit it long and/or b) hit it accurately.

what he needs to do is get the idea firmly in his head that hitting the driver in play 70% of the time is more important than hitting it 50% of the time. His whole career he was able to win tournaments with low driver efficiencies because his short game was so good and he was 10-20 yards longer than the field.

He's not longer than the field anymore, and his short game isn't as good as it used to be, so to counteract those two realities he needs to increase his fairways hit and increase his proximity to the hole numbers. He went about 7 years without missing a 5 foot putt, now he misses a couple a day. You have to make up those two strokes somewhere, so take a clue from the crappy putters on the PGA tour, hit it straight and hit it close to the hole. Maybe he should consult Vijay or Robert Allenby.

I agree that the post up swing can be very effective. I just see him dropping way too much with the driver, getting stuck and flipping. He's not 'posting' after dropping nearly quick enough with the driver IMO. That straightening of the left leg is violent.I had a meniscus tear on left knee when I was 20 (I'm 31 now). It's hard to confidently post up with the driver now. I actually turn my left foot out a bit on the driver to ease rotation and clear to my left side. Otherwise I get stuck and block it.

Without clearing to the left side (or posting up with the rotational swing) you can't swing to the left. So enter the right hand rolling to make up for it.

Roboto - you seem to know a lot about the golf swing, how so?

I've been a golfer my whole life. Played in HS. I'm not a teaching pro nor the best golfer on these boards (I think tommyboy is better, maybe Apple Jack, proninja a few others). But I do know a little about the swing.

 

[mr roboto]

That said, Im probably way off re: Tiger. I just hate his swing with a driver.

 

[Das Boot]

I think he needs to come clean about his PED use.

Otherwise his guilty conscience will continue messing with his game.

 

[matuski]

As of this British Open, for the first time, Tiger fell behind Jack's pace.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Looks like he makes the cut on the number at +2...

No Claret Jug for you this year, El Tigre...

Glad he makes the cut. I want to see him collapse even more this weekend.

Was actually wondering what the haters preferred- surprised this is the preference I would have thought you preferred that he miss the cut, because that's a stain on his legacy or whatever and you can fap to the MC next to his name not just through the weekend but at least until the next major. Now he'll just play two morning rounds and post some dull result like T-40 or something and the haters will throw little hissy fits all weekend about why they're showing him on TV when he's not in contention. Although I guess the flip side is that it creates more material for jokes?

I've said this before, but it bears repeating:

I was a HUGE fan of Tiger. Loved watching him. It was amazing to see him play, the things he could do and the feats he could so easily accomplish. But that all changed after everything came out about him cheating. I don't hate him for any other reason than that. is that a good reason to hate someone? I don't know. Maybe. I happen to have very high morals and strong family beliefs. It's not a religious thing. It's just how I was raised. I know not everyone is like me. In fact, I've taken a lot of flak from friends and not so much friends for my beliefs and feelings on the subject. But that's what I believe.

Do I think Tiger isn't one of, if not the greatest golfer ever? Hell no. He was amazing. There is no denying that. But I root against him now because of who he is, not because of what he can do. If that makes me a hater in people's eyes, so be it. But there's a reason I root against him. And it has nothing to do with anything other than his character.

I would think somebody with those things would not "hate" so many people.

But that's just me.

My favorite part of the internet is that people take words so literal.

 

[DCThunder]

Is Tiger playing at Firestone this week? It's one of his "go-to" tournaments, hasn't he won it like a dozen times? And its a WGC one too.

 

[Joe T]

Is Tiger playing at Firestone this week? It's one of his "go-to" tournaments, hasn't he won it like a dozen times? And its a WGC one too.

Yes. As are Phil and Rory. Pretty good field there.

 

[BobbyLayne]

No bump after his best round since coming back?

You guys are slipping.

 

[ghostguy123]

No bump after his best round since coming back?

You guys are slipping.

Two under isnt his best round. Wasn't it 3 under after the first round of the Open??

 

[DiStefano]

No bump after his best round since coming back?

You guys are slipping.

Two under isnt his best round. Wasn't it 3 under after the first round of the Open??

Let's see, should we bring up the brass band because he shot is best round in 7 rounds? Particularly on a course which suits him to a T? If he shoots the same score or better tomorrow, it will be time to sit up and take notice.

 

[ghostguy123]

No bump after his best round since coming back?

You guys are slipping.

Two under isnt his best round. Wasn't it 3 under after the first round of the Open??

Let's see, should we bring up the brass band because he shot is best round in 7 rounds? Particularly on a course which suits him to a T? If he shoots the same score or better tomorrow, it will be time to sit up and take notice.

was just stating a fact is all, not trying to say Tiger is back to being the Tiger of old.

 

[joffer]

Liked the birdie on 2 from left of the 3rd fairway

He has no idea where it's going right now

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Dustin Johnson is headed back to rehab, tough to stay off the slopes when you date a coke whore

 

[gump]

Dustin Johnson is headed back to rehab, tough to stay off the slopes when you date a coke whore

That won't help the Ryder Cup.

 

[Zow]

Dustin Johnson is headed back to rehab, tough to stay off the slopes when you date a coke whore

Seriously?

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Dustin Johnson is headed back to rehab, tough to stay off the slopes when you date a coke whore

Seriously?

Well, if I had to guess I would say he failed a drug test and is suspended as that is the only thing that makes sense in my mind as to why we would mention he is out of the Ryder Cup. My guess is he will need to go to rehab to satisfy the PGA. The PGA never announces their suspensions but this is most likely his second one unless you really believe he was out 11 weeks with a bad back a few years ago. I think there is little to no doubt Paulina loves blow and certainly a lot of whispers that DJ has enjoyed it since his college days.

 

[gump]

Butch Harmon spoke publicly about DJ's party issues a while ago...even saying it was an issue DURING tournaments.

 

[Joe T]

Tiger +1 through 8 today.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Dustin Johnson is headed back to rehab, tough to stay off the slopes when you date a coke whore

Seriously?

Well, if I had to guess I would say he failed a drug test and is suspended as that is the only thing that makes sense in my mind as to why we would mention he is out of the Ryder Cup. My guess is he will need to go to rehab to satisfy the PGA. The PGA never announces their suspensions but this is most likely his second one unless you really believe he was out 11 weeks with a bad back a few years ago. I think there is little to no doubt Paulina loves blow and certainly a lot of whispers that DJ has enjoyed it since his college days.

Looks like you were right: link

Weird that they test for it though, right? I'm having a hard time thinking of a less performance-enhancing drug/sport pairing than cocaine for a golfer.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

And apparently drilling another player's wife.

According to the source, Johnson has failed three drug tests: one for marijuana in 2009 and two for cocaine, in 2012 and 2014. He was previously suspended for the 2012 failed test, but that suspension was never made public. Under the PGA Tour's drug-testing policies, the Tour is not required to announce any disciplinary actions against players who test positive for recreational drugs.

Johnson's conduct has long been a topic of conversation among close observers of the Tour. He is often seen in bars near his home in Jupiter, Fla., and is also known to have had a sexual indiscretion with at least one wife of a PGA Tour player.

 

[Phil Elliott]

Should change thread title to "Official PGA Thread".

 

[Judge Smails]

And apparently drilling another player's wife.

According to the source, Johnson has failed three drug tests: one for marijuana in 2009 and two for cocaine, in 2012 and 2014. He was previously suspended for the 2012 failed test, but that suspension was never made public. Under the PGA Tour's drug-testing policies, the Tour is not required to announce any disciplinary actions against players who test positive for recreational drugs.

Johnson's conduct has long been a topic of conversation among close observers of the Tour. He is often seen in bars near his home in Jupiter, Fla., and is also known to have had a sexual indiscretion with at least one wife of a PGA Tour player.

Article actually said 2 player's wives, one breaking up a marriage. Wonder who he was nailing. Betcha Jason Duffner isn't having DJ over for dinner anytime soon. Better keep him away.

 

[TobiasFunke]

And apparently drilling another player's wife.

According to the source, Johnson has failed three drug tests: one for marijuana in 2009 and two for cocaine, in 2012 and 2014. He was previously suspended for the 2012 failed test, but that suspension was never made public. Under the PGA Tour's drug-testing policies, the Tour is not required to announce any disciplinary actions against players who test positive for recreational drugs.

Johnson's conduct has long been a topic of conversation among close observers of the Tour. He is often seen in bars near his home in Jupiter, Fla., and is also known to have had a sexual indiscretion with at least one wife of a PGA Tour player.

Article actually said 2 player's wives, one breaking up a marriage. Wonder who he was nailing. Betcha Jason Duffner isn't having DJ over for dinner anytime soon. Better keep him away.

Gotta think it would be pretty easy to figure out if someone cared. Just look to see who's had a less than amicable divorce from a hot wife in the last few years.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

And apparently drilling another player's wife.

According to the source, Johnson has failed three drug tests: one for marijuana in 2009 and two for cocaine, in 2012 and 2014. He was previously suspended for the 2012 failed test, but that suspension was never made public. Under the PGA Tour's drug-testing policies, the Tour is not required to announce any disciplinary actions against players who test positive for recreational drugs.

Johnson's conduct has long been a topic of conversation among close observers of the Tour. He is often seen in bars near his home in Jupiter, Fla., and is also known to have had a sexual indiscretion with at least one wife of a PGA Tour player.

Article actually said 2 player's wives, one breaking up a marriage. Wonder who he was nailing. Betcha Jason Duffner isn't having DJ over for dinner anytime soon. Better keep him away.

Gotta think it would be pretty easy to figure out if someone cared. Just look to see who's had a less than amicable divorce from a hot wife in the last few years.

Will Mackenzie a while back and rumor was DJ banged Jimmy Walker's wife earlier this year

Will MacKenzie is divorcing Alli

 

[Joe T]

 

[TobiasFunke]

After I saw this post I did a google image search for "Jimmy Walker Wife" and most of the first 20 or so pics were of JJ from Good Times with Anne Coulter.