jwb
Footballguy
Thx. But I did that (and it worked), then I changed the wording (which made the link go away), but then it wouldn't let me just redo it. I deleted it, tried to do it again, etc.
Whatever, it'll get worked out I'm sure.
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timdraft #4: Movie Category Draft (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter timschochet
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Whatever, it'll get worked out I'm sure.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I see Dr Octopus had the same thing happened. What do you do to make 2 or 3 quotes appear??!
timschochet
Footballguy
Sorry everyone, I am really tied up at work and won't be able to update the OPs for several hours. Please bear with me. In the event that I come up for a pick before I am free, please skip me.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Ok I dislike Tom Cruise as much as the next guy, but this is one of those movies that I'll always stop and watch whenever it's on (and it seems to be on a whole lot), especially if it's close to this scene:
1.20 A Few Good Men - Courtroom scene
"You Can't Handle the Truth"
1.20 A Few Good Men - Courtroom scene
"You Can't Handle the Truth"
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AcerFC
Footballguy
4 picks.
Tiananmen Tank
Footballguy
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
Except that all I did was add a sentence at the bottom.Highlight the words you want to link before you open the dialogue box (which only asks for the URL, not the text like it used to). Or after you close the URL dialogue box, just go into the post and edit the underlined text that is linked (if that makes sense).
Part 1
ETA: holy ####### #### this thing is wonky! WTH happened here?
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
Can someone take a PM for my next pick? I'm not feeling too spiff, and I may be asleep at the wheel.
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I like Tom Cruise movies. 
Question - In the category "multiple performances in a movie" are we talking about someone playing completely different characters or can it be the same character in disguise, per se.
Question - In the category "multiple performances in a movie" are we talking about someone playing completely different characters or can it be the same character in disguise, per se.
jwb
Footballguy
I do too - very few movies of his do I outright dislike. Excellent actor.I like Tom Cruise movies.
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
SUPERHEROES JUDGING CRITERIA
- The movie should be enjoyable, which doesn't mean it can't be very serious, but it needs to have some entertainment value to score highly. This is probably obvious but I felt the need to state it for the record.
- Drafters need to be having some issues or complaints with the new board functions. If everyone is working smoothly for you with the crisp new setup, you won't score well.
- Plot and dialogue are what make movies for me, not just fight scenes and action sequences, no matter how good.
- My category is one of those most affected by THE RULE, and I'm assuming that the judges have some input as to how to interpret it, so this is my attempt to do so, which hopefully will spark no tiresome controversy:
- Different iterations of the same character are not the same for purposes of THE RULE. For example, the Keaton Batman series is a different franchise than the Nolan trilogy, and a pick in one of them does not block other picks in the other.
- The Marvel Cinematic Universe that began with the Iron Man films and has extended into The Avengers is one franchise. Any selection of any of the films in that group, including "The Avengers," prevents selections of any other movies in that group. Yeah, I know, it doesn't make much sense, does it? However, this is THE RULE in action.
- The X-Men trilogy DOES prevent a selection of "First Class," and vice versa, and the Wolverine film as well.
- Better selections will be those films that have value outside of the genre, as in, they are good films, not just superhero films.
- Because of THE RULE, some innvoation will be needed to get to 25 selections, and that's, of course, the purported genius of the statute. Accordingly, creative ways to evade the ridiculous provision will be rewarded. For example, superheroes do not have to be superpowered, nor do they have to be based on comic books or on traditional characters.
I will be happy to take additional questions via PM.
/fin
- The movie should be enjoyable, which doesn't mean it can't be very serious, but it needs to have some entertainment value to score highly. This is probably obvious but I felt the need to state it for the record.
- Drafters need to be having some issues or complaints with the new board functions. If everyone is working smoothly for you with the crisp new setup, you won't score well.
- Plot and dialogue are what make movies for me, not just fight scenes and action sequences, no matter how good.
- My category is one of those most affected by THE RULE, and I'm assuming that the judges have some input as to how to interpret it, so this is my attempt to do so, which hopefully will spark no tiresome controversy:
- Different iterations of the same character are not the same for purposes of THE RULE. For example, the Keaton Batman series is a different franchise than the Nolan trilogy, and a pick in one of them does not block other picks in the other.
- The Marvel Cinematic Universe that began with the Iron Man films and has extended into The Avengers is one franchise. Any selection of any of the films in that group, including "The Avengers," prevents selections of any other movies in that group. Yeah, I know, it doesn't make much sense, does it? However, this is THE RULE in action.
- The X-Men trilogy DOES prevent a selection of "First Class," and vice versa, and the Wolverine film as well.
- Better selections will be those films that have value outside of the genre, as in, they are good films, not just superhero films.
- Because of THE RULE, some innvoation will be needed to get to 25 selections, and that's, of course, the purported genius of the statute. Accordingly, creative ways to evade the ridiculous provision will be rewarded. For example, superheroes do not have to be superpowered, nor do they have to be based on comic books or on traditional characters.
I will be happy to take additional questions via PM.
/fin
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Pretty sure we've all thought of the two you have in mind. In one, a guy is taking on a different persona to get a job. That's not a multiple performance IMO. In another that readily comes to mind, the actor is pretending to be someone else so he can gain access to people. Again, it's not a multiple performance.I like Tom Cruise movies.
Question - In the category "multiple performances in a movie" are we talking about someone playing completely different characters or can it be the same character in disguise, per se.
Both are examples of the same movie character wearing a disguise. The audience isn't asked to suspend disbelief that they really are distinct characters - it's an inside joke the audience is in on, but they're not different characters.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
JML said he could be skipped even in the first round fwiw.
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
I, Aerial Assault, can be skipped at any time in this draft. So if I don't post within about 15 minutes of my pick coming up, skip me. Thanks much.
krista4
Footballguy
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Are there actually 25 examples of multiple roles in all of movie history?Pretty sure we've all thought of the two you have in mind. In one, a guy is taking on a different persona to get a job. That's not a multiple performance IMO. In another that readily comes to mind, the actor is pretending to be someone else so he can gain access to people. Again, it's not a multiple performance.I like Tom Cruise movies.
Question - In the category "multiple performances in a movie" are we talking about someone playing completely different characters or can it be the same character in disguise, per se.
Both are examples of the same movie character wearing a disguise. The audience isn't asked to suspend disbelief that they really are distinct characters - it's an inside joke the audience is in on, but they're not different characters.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Have we identified a scapegoat for SUCKY categories?Are there actually 25 examples of multiple roles in all of movie history?Pretty sure we've all thought of the two you have in mind. In one, a guy is taking on a different persona to get a job. That's not a multiple performance IMO. In another that readily comes to mind, the actor is pretending to be someone else so he can gain access to people. Again, it's not a multiple performance.I like Tom Cruise movies.
Question - In the category "multiple performances in a movie" are we talking about someone playing completely different characters or can it be the same character in disguise, per se.
Both are examples of the same movie character wearing a disguise. The audience isn't asked to suspend disbelief that they really are distinct characters - it's an inside joke the audience is in on, but they're not different characters.
HEY WHAT IS THAT TAG THING??!!!
I noticed a few posts have tags. We could use tags for faux subtitles, no? I realize the idea is to tag common themes/categories like a blog or a hashtag on twitter, but instead of the lengthy title timschochet could just make up tags
- Clock starts Monday, April 1
- Judging has begun
- etc
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
DREAM SEQUENCES JUDGING CRITERIA
- How well does the dream sequence fit into the plot of the film? Cheap attempts to shock the audience will score relatively poorly compared to those sequences that are somewhat more profound.
- Was it obvious that the sequence was a dream? If so, it's not a dealbreaker, but if not, then extra points will likely be awarded.
- Is the dream sequence amusing, entertaining, scary, or of some intrinsic value in and of itself, so that it retains some sort of resonance even after it is clear that the character experiencing it is back to reality?
- Innovation is encouraged. The word "dream" has several meanings, and while, for the most part, this category shouid be about people having visions while they sleep, out-of-the-box selections will be considered for their thoughtfulness. They may even be rewarded for it. However, don't pick a scene with a bunch of a guys in a diner talking about their "dreams" in life. That's not what I mean. The rest is up to you.
- Chances hover at somewhat around 30-40% that I have not seen your movie and/or do not retain immediate command of all of the material in the sequence in question. ALL DRAFTERS ARE STRONGLY ENCOURAGED TO LINK ME TO THE SCENE IN SOME MANNER. If you don't have time when you pick because of clock pressure, you can always go back and edit the post at some later point to include such a link. Ignore this suggestion at your peril.
Thanks, dreamies.
- How well does the dream sequence fit into the plot of the film? Cheap attempts to shock the audience will score relatively poorly compared to those sequences that are somewhat more profound.
- Was it obvious that the sequence was a dream? If so, it's not a dealbreaker, but if not, then extra points will likely be awarded.
- Is the dream sequence amusing, entertaining, scary, or of some intrinsic value in and of itself, so that it retains some sort of resonance even after it is clear that the character experiencing it is back to reality?
- Innovation is encouraged. The word "dream" has several meanings, and while, for the most part, this category shouid be about people having visions while they sleep, out-of-the-box selections will be considered for their thoughtfulness. They may even be rewarded for it. However, don't pick a scene with a bunch of a guys in a diner talking about their "dreams" in life. That's not what I mean. The rest is up to you.
- Chances hover at somewhat around 30-40% that I have not seen your movie and/or do not retain immediate command of all of the material in the sequence in question. ALL DRAFTERS ARE STRONGLY ENCOURAGED TO LINK ME TO THE SCENE IN SOME MANNER. If you don't have time when you pick because of clock pressure, you can always go back and edit the post at some later point to include such a link. Ignore this suggestion at your peril.
Thanks, dreamies.
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
Sadly, yes.Are there actually 25 examples of multiple roles in all of movie history?Pretty sure we've all thought of the two you have in mind. In one, a guy is taking on a different persona to get a job. That's not a multiple performance IMO. In another that readily comes to mind, the actor is pretending to be someone else so he can gain access to people. Again, it's not a multiple performance.I like Tom Cruise movies.
Question - In the category "multiple performances in a movie" are we talking about someone playing completely different characters or can it be the same character in disguise, per se.
Both are examples of the same movie character wearing a disguise. The audience isn't asked to suspend disbelief that they really are distinct characters - it's an inside joke the audience is in on, but they're not different characters.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Since they aren't elligible, what were the movies you were talking about?Pretty sure we've all thought of the two you have in mind. In one, a guy is taking on a different persona to get a job. That's not a multiple performance IMO. In another that readily comes to mind, the actor is pretending to be someone else so he can gain access to people. Again, it's not a multiple performance.I like Tom Cruise movies.
Question - In the category "multiple performances in a movie" are we talking about someone playing completely different characters or can it be the same character in disguise, per se.
Both are examples of the same movie character wearing a disguise. The audience isn't asked to suspend disbelief that they really are distinct characters - it's an inside joke the audience is in on, but they're not different characters.
Time Kibitzer
Footballguy
There's hundreds. I can send you a wiki link that contains a list of a good deal of them, though it is still missing some.Are there actually 25 examples of multiple roles in all of movie history?Pretty sure we've all thought of the two you have in mind. In one, a guy is taking on a different persona to get a job. That's not a multiple performance IMO. In another that readily comes to mind, the actor is pretending to be someone else so he can gain access to people. Again, it's not a multiple performance.I like Tom Cruise movies.
Question - In the category "multiple performances in a movie" are we talking about someone playing completely different characters or can it be the same character in disguise, per se.
Both are examples of the same movie character wearing a disguise. The audience isn't asked to suspend disbelief that they really are distinct characters - it's an inside joke the audience is in on, but they're not different characters.
joffer
Footballguy
does the person have to be asleep? can't be a fantasy, daydream, hallucination, etc.? just checking.
Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
21. John Madden's Lunchbox - SKIPPED22. Kumerica- OTC23. Tremendous Upside- ON DECK
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus, also see the following from my original post:
Because of THE RULE, some innvoation will be needed to get to 25 selections, and that's, of course, the purported genius of the statute. Accordingly, creative ways to evade the ridiculous provision will be rewarded. For example, superheroes do not have to be superpowered, nor do they have to be based on comic books or on traditional characters.
Because of THE RULE, some innvoation will be needed to get to 25 selections, and that's, of course, the purported genius of the statute. Accordingly, creative ways to evade the ridiculous provision will be rewarded. For example, superheroes do not have to be superpowered, nor do they have to be based on comic books or on traditional characters.
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
You hit on exactly what I was trying to say. A classic "dream sequence" would mean the character was asleep, but fantasies, daydreams, and hallucinations will all be good selections here, and may even be rewarded depending on their innovation and the other criteria I mentioned. Nice question.
I do want to stress again that I like clever dialogue in movies. You don't have to cater to my whims and I think my judging efforts in the recent timdraft: songs edition illustrated that I can set aside personal preferences as much as most people while judging, but at the same time, just throwing that out there about the dialogue.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
That statement was mostly rhetorical because I really meant "good ones".There's hundreds. I can send you a wiki link that contains a list of a good deal of them, though it is still missing some.Are there actually 25 examples of multiple roles in all of movie history?
I think it'd be more fun if you could pick people that had the same character masquerading, but whatever.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Whoa. I missed that this was picked. This was one of two movies I was considering for my Nazi pick.
A masterpiece and one of my favorite movies.
joffer
Footballguy
i went through each category and saw which scene, movie, portrayal was the first to pop into my mind. this and the Goodfellas long take were the only ones where #1 to me was so clear. This movie was amazing to me. instead of a good movie with Nazis in it, its a Nazi movie.
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
Sure. I deleted mine as well. My comments just included more tiresome whining about THE RULE anyway. This is the category that is worst affected by it, but I think creative drafting will get around it, and then the RULE's advocates can clap themselves on the back for their genius. Who knows? They might even end up being right.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Hoping I could snag the foreign movies later.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
The two lines that still haunt me are:
i went through each category and saw which scene, movie, portrayal was the first to pop into my mind. this and the Goodfellas long take were the only ones where #1 to me was so clear. This movie was amazing to me. instead of a good movie with Nazis in it, its a Nazi movie.
Magda Goebbels: I could not live in a world without National Socialism.
and
Adolph Hitler: It wasn't just for Germany.
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Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
1.23 Heat - Best Shootout
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpaFTFwuUHc#t=5m29s
Two of the greatest actors of all time in Pacino and Deniro, great supporting players like Kilmer and Sizemore, 6,000 rounds of ammo and a bunch of awesome weapons in an urban environment? Best shootout ever IMO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpaFTFwuUHc#t=5m29s
Two of the greatest actors of all time in Pacino and Deniro, great supporting players like Kilmer and Sizemore, 6,000 rounds of ammo and a bunch of awesome weapons in an urban environment? Best shootout ever IMO
joffer
Footballguy
ScottNorwood
Footballcutie
The teamup is already paying dividends - although BL's other choice probably would've scored OK http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094077/?ref_=sr_3
Time Kibitzer
Footballguy
Was planning on taking this with my next pick.
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Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
I do not believe in surf nazi extermination...I am in favor of a surf nazi rehabilitation porogram
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Nice. Had this and 1 other written down as my possible 1st rounders
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