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timdraft #4: Movie Category Draft (1 Viewer)

I could probably wait on this one and draft it later, but I'll grab it now anyway. I love this movie and it really fits the criteria laid out by TU:

4.06 - The Taking of Pelham One Two Three - New York

The original with Walter Matthau and Robert Shaw nit the Denzel/Travolta remake.

I'll add some links tomorrow morning.

 
The Last Waltz IS the best film on rock and roll ever.
In the fall of 1988 I went on my last Mediterranean deployment cruise. Should have been 6 months but ended up in the Straits of Hormuz 8-9 months later escorting reflagged Kuwaiti tankers. Anyway, Big A (Momma Layne) sent me a copy of The Last Waltz at the beginning of the cruise. I had just become the youngest First Class Petty Officer on the ship, and we had a modest lounge for the E-6s with a decent surround sound setup. We watched that movie virtually every day for 200 straight days. Never got tired of it.

Robbie Robertson
  • [To the audience as he's coming out for an encore after a lengthy night of playing] You're still there, huh?
  • The Band had been together for 16 years together on the road. We played eight years in bars, dives and dancehalls, eight years in concerts, stadiums and arenas. We did our last concert. We called it The Last Waltz.
  • Winterland was the first place The Band played as The Band. Some friends showed up and helped us take it home.
  • [Talking about getting a job playing with Ronnie Hawkins] He called me up, and I said, "Sure I'd like a job. What does it mean? What do I do?" And he said, "Well, son, you won't make much money, but you'll get more ##### than Frank Sinatra."
  • The music took us to some strange places ... physically, spiritually, psychotically. It just wasn't always on stage.
[edit]Richard Manuel
  • We started out with The Crackers. Tried to call ourselves The Honkies. Everybody sort of backed off. It was too straight. So we decided call ourselves The Band.
  • I just want to break even.
[edit]Garth Hudson
  • There is the view that jazz is evil because it comes from evil people, but the greatest priests on 52nd Street and on the streets of New York were the musicians. They were doing the greatest healing work. They knew how to punch through music which would cure and make people feel good.
[edit]Rick Danko
  • Happy Thanksgiving!
  • We always seemed to get a whole lot more done when we didn't have a lot of company around. We were more productive. And as soon as company came, of course, we'd start having fun. You know what happens when you have too much fun.
Levon Helm hated the project, and always resented they never saw the royalties from the movie, VHS/DVDs, et al. Total rip off. I can't say add anything to that except to say he is sorely missed by everyone around Woodstock, and it's a damn shame half these guys died too young.

 
4.07 - George C. Scott - Patton - Monologue



Love this
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!11!

#### I hate this draft
heh - had my finger on this since round 1, but felt it was a deeper category than some others. First scene I thought of for this category.
Yep, Norwood and I have had dozens of PMs and I bring it up all the time. Waited because of the depth, but this is an awesome scene.

It's the opening sequence, and it totally sets the tone. He never raises his voice but the intensity is palpable. There's a IRL version of this same speech on YouTube, and Patton nailed it. He's addressing thousands of troops, but the camera never shows them - this film is not about them, it's about the colorful egomaniac. All you see is Patton in full dress, pearl handled pistols, and that ginormous American Flag. None of that is Hollywood hype, that is to the T exactly how it went down.

Absolutely brilliant!

 
3.23 Do the Right Thing, NYC

3.24 Children of Men long take

4.2 Scarface shootout

4.3 Ronin, car chase

4. Kumerica Last Waltz

5. John Madden's Lunchbox- Skipped

6. Dr. Octopus Pelham 1,2,3

7. jwb Patton

8. Mrs. Rannous- OTC

9. krista4- On Deck

10. joffer- in the hole

11. Tiannamen Tank

 
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Tremendous Upside said:
4.03 Ronin, Car Chase

I remember when this came out, critics kept pointing to the car chase being the best one since French Connection. Was gonna snag it, but upon further viewing, felt it looked dated and took too long. Thought about Bullit, but really wanted to snag the Bourne Franchise.

There is, however, a car chase that, IMO, beats the s@it out of all other car chases. And it's still out there.

 
4.8 - Alec Guiness in Kind Hearts and Coronets - Actor with multiple characters

Alec Guinness as the Duke, the Banker, the Parson, the General, the Admiral, Young Ascoyne, Young Henry, and Lady Agatha

 
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4.9 Touch of Evil first sequence - long take

I'll do links and write-ups on all these later. First thing to come to mind in this category; thanks for leaving it! :)

 
crap mid-4th round already? great pace, people are into this one.

joffer, tank and then Nick?

I don't have one ready but please don't autoskip - I'll be ready to fire one off in the morning.

Thanks.

 
What do you do when you know your son is the saviour of the human race after the machines take over and everyone else thinks you're crazy?

You prepare your son to be that man. Whatever mother-son bond you had or want will have to take a backseat to the survival of the human race.

He will hate you and act like a spoilt brat, but he will not be the man that is needed to defeat Skynet unless you step in and be the best #######ed parent in movie history.

So iconic a performance that a TV series was created in her honor. I present

Best movie Parent

4.05 - Sarah Connor - Terminator II

 
What do you do when you know your son is the saviour of the human race after the machines take over and everyone else thinks you're crazy?

You prepare your son to be that man. Whatever mother-son bond you had or want will have to take a backseat to the survival of the human race.

He will hate you and act like a spoilt brat, but he will not be the man that is needed to defeat Skynet unless you step in and be the best #######ed parent in movie history.

So iconic a performance that a TV series was created in her honor. I present

Best movie Parent

4.05 - Sarah Connor - Terminator II

this is one movie that I over think all the time. How could John send Derek back to create himself. How was John conceived the first time to be able to send Derek back. Fine pick, I just hate the loops I get caught in. If anyone can help, that would be great

 
krista4 said:
This worked before so I'll try it again: I have now decided on my next pick, so I would very much appreciate if none of you would take it. TIA.
Does this really work? Someone besides K4 tried it as well.

OK, I'm invoking it. I'm all set. Three Two picks away. Don't be ####### up my morning. Please.

 
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krista4 said:
This worked before so I'll try it again: I have now decided on my next pick, so I would very much appreciate if none of you would take it. TIA.
Does this really work? Someone besides K4 tried it as well. OK, I'm invoking it. I'm all set. Three Two picks away. Don't be ####### up my morning. Please.
it worked for me. Didn't have to trade up
 
4.11 Hallway fight, Oldboy (Long Take)

.Oldboy is an awesome movie that could fit in a few categories. I was thinking about this scene for fight, which I still might flip it over to, but when Children of Men went my hand was forced. Choreography is great, the way the fight is presented turned out great, and the sound work is great. It makes me think of Streets of Rage, which is great. Now I want to play Hotline: Miami, and that is great, too.

Excited and terrified for how Spike Lee is going to handle this scene and the movie as a whole. Should be interesting at least.

 
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4.11 Hallway fight, Oldboy (Long Take)

And oh BTW, I saw this ####### thing three times before it released - first at a private screening, and twice at NYC film festivals (Asian Film Festival and...maybe Tribeca).

You ####### suck. I hate you. You're the ### #### moron calling while chasing a four outter and you hit it putz.

OK, I'm pretty sure I know little or nothing about you, but you still suck.

 
krista4 said:
This worked before so I'll try it again: I have now decided on my next pick, so I would very much appreciate if none of you would take it. TIA.
Does this really work? Someone besides K4 tried it as well. OK, I'm invoking it. I'm all set. Three Two picks away. Don't be ####### up my morning. Please.
it worked for me. Didn't have to trade up
3 on a match.

 
4.11 Hallway fight, Oldboy (Long Take)

This has come up in other drafts and movie discussions. Oldboy was groundbreaking in some aspects, but the whole Korean revenge genre was saturated not long after this one came out. I'll never forget how I felt I was the first time I watched it - maybe 20 industry people in a small screening room at the Film Institute building on 9th Ave & 45th St. Absolutely blew me away.

Not sure where the movie ranks, but this scene is epic. Great pick, TT.

 
4.11 Hallway fight, Oldboy (Long Take)

:shrug: Broken clock is right twice a day. At least we can be Park Chan-wook bros?

I wanted to grab it here for fight scene but I thought Children of Men would last longer. Fight scene is just significantly deeper and there's only a few more in Long Takes that I could happily draft.

 
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What do you do when you know your son is the saviour of the human race after the machines take over and everyone else thinks you're crazy?

You prepare your son to be that man. Whatever mother-son bond you had or want will have to take a backseat to the survival of the human race.

He will hate you and act like a spoilt brat, but he will not be the man that is needed to defeat Skynet unless you step in and be the best #######ed parent in movie history.

So iconic a performance that a TV series was created in her honor. I present

Best movie Parent

4.05 - Sarah Connor - Terminator II

Who is Derek?

John sent Kyle Reese.

This is the old destiny vs pre-destination argument.

As with most sci-fi flicks, it's best not to get too wrapped up in time travel debates. Just accept the premise unless it's ludicrous.

 
What do you do when you know your son is the saviour of the human race after the machines take over and everyone else thinks you're crazy?

You prepare your son to be that man. Whatever mother-son bond you had or want will have to take a backseat to the survival of the human race.

He will hate you and act like a spoilt brat, but he will not be the man that is needed to defeat Skynet unless you step in and be the best #######ed parent in movie history.

So iconic a performance that a TV series was created in her honor. I present

Best movie Parent

4.05 - Sarah Connor - Terminator II

was wondering if anyone would take this (had it written down as a late pick - shows what i know).

Kills a decent enough monologue ("it can't be bargained with, it can't be reasoned with..."), a few good fights (both physical and gun), a car chase (well, truck/motorcycle)... lots of stuff there.

 
What do you do when you know your son is the saviour of the human race after the machines take over and everyone else thinks you're crazy?

You prepare your son to be that man. Whatever mother-son bond you had or want will have to take a backseat to the survival of the human race.

He will hate you and act like a spoilt brat, but he will not be the man that is needed to defeat Skynet unless you step in and be the best #######ed parent in movie history.

So iconic a performance that a TV series was created in her honor. I present

Best movie Parent

4.05 - Sarah Connor - Terminator II

I had it for a few rounds from now, original version, for fight scene, either Reese v. Terminator at TechNoir or another sequence, or best shootout, TechNoir or the police station. Enh, upon further thought, scratch that about TechNoir as a fight scene, but there were some other sequences I was thinking of for that category frm the series. Naive to think it would last, although I did not think it would be snapped up in the parent category. Nice call! Sarah Connor Chronicles would be a top draft pick of mine in a Stupidest, Most Scream-Inducing TV Cancellations category.

By the way, a TV draft would rule. I'm sure it's been done, maybe even by tim. Would still rule.

 
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COURTROOM SCENE JUDGING CRITERIA

Now this will be really fun.

- I don't expect everyone to be boning up on the Federal Rules of Evidence here and it's not like I've argued in front of the SCOTUS 20 times or even once. :) However, scenes that are somewhat grounded in realism (from the perspective of anyone who's ever been in a courtroom, which I figure most people have in one form or another, even just to argue a traffic ticket) will score highly. Realism means (for example) that witnesses are not being cross-examined to (literal) death on the stand; the judge is not interjecting with jokes; counsel are not screaming long monologues at one another while the judge haplessly bangs a gavel; and no one is breaking into song, firing a weapon, etc., to interrupt the proceedings.

- However, dramatic license is still cool. Since it's already been selected, I can mention that there are a few things about Cruise's final interrogation of Nicholson in "A Few Good Men" that are not terribly realistic from a litigation standpoint, but nothing is over the top ridiculous or stupid in a "that would never happen" sort of sense.

- Top scores in the category will go to anyone who can find a scene that is tight, realistic, and well-written. For example, again using "A Few Good Men" as an example, one of the most clever courtroom sequences in that movie only lasts a few seconds and is a bit of a throwaway, but it's awesome because it could actually happen. This is when Cruise takes the Marine Corps manual right out of Bacon's hand after direct and cross-examines Noah Wyle by asking Wyle to show him, using the manual, where the mess hall at Gitmo is located. I've actually seen something like that happen, just as fast and unscripted, and it was frigging brilliant. Anyway, anyone who actually breaks down a courtroom scene and unearths some gem like that will score really high marks, but honestly, just saying the name of the movie and linking the specific scene is fine too. ("A Few Good Men" will score highly unless some people really step up to the plate and knock it down.)

- The entire movie does not have to take place in a courtroom or revolve around the courtroom proceedings, but if the courtroom scene(s) is/are not the central focus of the movie, there could be trouble unless the courtroom scene is well done.

- Finally, reference to TV Land might help, and it won't offer any spoilers. "L.A. Law" had fantastic courtroom scenes on a regular basis. "Law & Order" featured mostly very good courtroom scenes. "The Good Wife" (yeah, I'm forced to watch it) has, for the most part, atrocious courtroom scenes. Just throwing that out there.

PM me with questions or bribes.

 
Isn't the category best movie dad? Not best movie parent. I like the sarah connor picks, if I am wrong, but if the category said parent, then this might have gone earlier than it did.

 
This feels like getting caught at the end of a run, but4.12 "Greed is good" Wallstreet - Monologue.
Really? Interesting. I'm taking the same cat in a few and I'm thrilled it's still there. But I hear ya, good stuff doesn't last. Great drafting by way too many people.
 

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