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timdraft #4: Movie Category Draft (2 Viewers)

Aerial Assault said:
TIM > CHANGE THE OUTER SPACE RANKINGS?I didn't rerank Solaris, with your permission I might add, for the changes to be ignored. :lol:
:goodposting:Accurate update would be nice. Any update to the standings would be nice. Is the scorekeeper on holiday with the rest of the judges? :bag:
Ah, well. I just got tubed for a scene I didn't select, so it's all good. I guess I'll rush my rankings out and not really put a lot of work into them. :lol: Too bad; this draft was fun but has sorta gone off the rails.
I spent hours on this, ok? My bad in the writeup calling it the end, but that was the right scene.
I am sincerely sorry. That remark about the draft being derailed wasn't directed at you so much as at tim disappearing and not reranking Solaris after I spent two hours with that writeup, JML being JML :lol: , etc. Now that I know you watched the right scene, I hew to my policy of never complaining about a ranking, I am very sorry, and it is clear that you did put a lot of thought into your rankings, which incidentally I thought were pretty spot on. My total bad. :multiplebag:
It's all good, man. :) I understand. I really, really have moved beyond being touchy at "ranking whining", because usually they are just that - whining. You did have a valid point - I could see where you felt "wait a minute, that wasn't what I selected". Your picked scene is indeed the scene judged - when I judged these, I searched the thread for every movie's "pick post" and cut/pasted the drafter's link. Most of the movies I have seen (including fallen, which I do like) and didn't really need to re-watch. Some I had to watch (I saw animal kingdom and spoorloos for the first time each because of this). I do think I must have seen a comment that said that was the end (or just had "the ending" stuck in my mind, because many of these were movie endings)
Makes good sense. :thumbup: One more apology from me, though, because I find ranking-whining so tiresome and silly and hate myself for momentarily doing it. Now, about the absent draft steward . . .
 
krista4 said:
Just won't have a bunch of fancy write-ups.
Honestly ... this far post-draft: As much fun as fancy write-ups can be to read, the thought of having to prepare them can cause the entire exercise to slide off the edge of an already full plate. Speaking from experience.

"Barely-explained rankings" decisively trumps "no rankings at all" IMHO.
:goodposting:

 
Total Rankings after 9 Categories (includes revised space rankings- sorry about the delay!)

Nick Vermiel 159

BobbyLayne 157

Val Rannous 147

Aerial Assault 140

Tremendous Upside 139

Tiannamen Tank 137

krista4 131

timschochet 131

AcerFC 129

Andy Dufresne 127

DougB 127

Karma Police 123

John Madden's Lunchbox 122

Mister CIA 119

Mrs. Rannous 116

rikishiboy 113

higgins 107

jwb 103

tish155 102

Time Kibitzer 99

Joffer 94

Dr. Octopus 90

Usual 21 85

hooter311 81

 
Total Rankings after 9 Categories (includes revised space rankings- sorry about the delay!)

Nick Vermiel 159

BobbyLayne 157

Val Rannous 147

Aerial Assault 140

Tremendous Upside 139

Tiannamen Tank 137

krista4 131

timschochet 131

AcerFC 129

Andy Dufresne 127

DougB 127

Karma Police 123

John Madden's Lunchbox 122

Mister CIA 119

Mrs. Rannous 116

rikishiboy 113

higgins 107

jwb 103

tish155 102

Time Kibitzer 99

Joffer 94

Dr. Octopus 90

Usual 21 85

hooter311 81
(Ahem)

 
Total Rankings after 9 Categories (includes revised space rankings- sorry about the delay!)

Nick Vermiel 159

BobbyLayne 157

Val Rannous 147

Aerial Assault 140

Tremendous Upside 139

Tiannamen Tank 137

krista4 131

timschochet 131

AcerFC 129

Andy Dufresne 127

DougB 127

Karma Police 123

John Madden's Lunchbox 122

Mister CIA 119

Mrs. Rannous 116

rikishiboy 113

higgins 107

jwb 103

tish155 102

Time Kibitzer 99

Joffer 94

Dr. Octopus 90

Usual 21 85

hooter311 81
Can't... shake... Team Mediocrity....

 
Sorry.

Total Rankings after 9 Categories

Nick Vermiel 159

BobbyLayne 157

Val Rannous 147

Aerial Assault 140

Tremendous Upside 139

Tiannamen Tank 137

krista4 131

timschochet 131

AcerFC 129

Andy Dufresne 127

DougB 127

Karma Police 123

John Madden's Lunchbox 122

Mister CIA 119

Mrs. Rannous 116

rikishiboy 113

higgins 107

jwb 103

tish155 102

Time Kibitzer 99

Joffer 94

Dr. Octopus 90

Kumerica 90

Usual 21 85

hooter311 81

 
krista4 said:
Just won't have a bunch of fancy write-ups.
Honestly ... this far post-draft: As much fun as fancy write-ups can be to read, the thought of having to prepare them can cause the entire exercise to slide off the edge of an already full plate. Speaking from experience.

"Barely-explained rankings" decisively trumps "no rankings at all" IMHO.
I think one sentence rankings are just as good as rankings done with paragraphs (or multiple paragraphs). They both have good things about them. One sentence explanations can be elaborated on by a judge if the ranking is challenged by a drafter, and the rankings are usually submitted faster. Paragraph driven rankings are more informative, and the thought process is usually easier to understand. Both ways can be entertaining or not. What matters is someone is taking the time to rank them.

 
One more apology from me, though, because I find ranking-whining so tiresome and silly and hate myself for momentarily doing it.
I know your situation is a misunderstanding, but I think it's normal for a drafter to want to defend their pick if they feel a judge unfairly ranked it, or feel a judge's explanation is lame. Opinions are going to clash in an atmosphere like this, and as long as someone doesn't personally attack another, a debate of opinions seems natural. It stimulates conversation, which is needed when a draft keeps stalling. Personal taste plays a part in drafting and judging, and that is going to spark a rumble from time to time.

 
BL, just to clarify, are you taking the final scene of In the Mood for Love as your romantic gesture scene? The write-up, along with your titling of the pick, confused me.

 
As soon as I know which scene BL took, I will have rankings and very short comments for the 19 films in romantic gesture I have seen (miscounted before--it's 19 instead of 18). I'll then send those to Mrs. R, who will move things around as she pleases and add in the other six. Between us we were familiar with 24 of 25 movies so should be good.

 
1 Requiem for a Dream 2 Trainspotting 3 Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas 4 Up In Smoke 5 Drugstore Cowboy 6 Maria Full of Grace 7 Reefer Madness 8 Harold and Kumar go to White Castle 9 Traffic 10 Midnight Express 11 Blow 12 Dazed and Confused 13 Basketball Diaries 14 New Jack City 15 Easy Rider 16 Fresh 17 Bad Lieutenant 18 Leaving Las Vegas 19 American Gangster 20 Go 21 Altered States 22 Winter's Bone 23 The People vs. Larry Flynt 24 Brick 25 Dune

 
1 Requiem for a Dream 2 Trainspotting 3 Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas 4 Up In Smoke 5 Drugstore Cowboy 6 Maria Full of Grace 7 Reefer Madness 8 Harold and Kumar go to White Castle 9 Traffic 10 Midnight Express 11 Blow 12 Dazed and Confused 13 Basketball Diaries 14 New Jack City 15 Easy Rider 16 Fresh 17 Bad Lieutenant 18 Leaving Las Vegas 19 American Gangster 20 Go 21 Altered States 22 Winter's Bone 23 The People vs. Larry Flynt 24 Brick 25 Dune
Seriously? No comments or anything?

 
1 Requiem for a Dream 2 Trainspotting 3 Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas 4 Up In Smoke 5 Drugstore Cowboy 6 Maria Full of Grace 7 Reefer Madness 8 Harold and Kumar go to White Castle 9 Traffic 10 Midnight Express 11 Blow 12 Dazed and Confused 13 Basketball Diaries 14 New Jack City 15 Easy Rider 16 Fresh 17 Bad Lieutenant 18 Leaving Las Vegas 19 American Gangster 20 Go 21 Altered States 22 Winter's Bone 23 The People vs. Larry Flynt 24 Brick 25 Dune
Seriously? No comments or anything?
I thought the movies ranked higher were better than the movies ranked lower

 
Total Rankings after 10 Categories

BobbyLayne 172

Nick Vermiel 167

Val Rannous 166

Tremendous Upside 164

Krista4 155

Tiannamen Tank 154

Aerial Assault 147

AcerFC 140

DougB 139

John Madden's Lunchbox 138

Andy Dufresne 137

Karma Police 136

Mrs. Rannous 134

timschochet 134

jwb 125

Mister CIA 121

Time Kibitzer 120

rikishiboy 114

higgins 112

tish155 108

Usual21 105

Kumerica 104

hooter311 104

Dr. Octopus 99

Joffer 98

 
krista4 said:
As soon as I know which scene BL took, I will have rankings and very short comments for the 19 films in romantic gesture I have seen (miscounted before--it's 19 instead of 18). I'll then send those to Mrs. R, who will move things around as she pleases and add in the other six. Between us we were familiar with 24 of 25 movies so should be good.
I don't think he took a scene; he took a romantic gesture. The scene link and the dialogue he posted are part of it. He explained it pretty well in his post.

 
This pick is a bit nuanced, and reliant on my interpretation. This is one of favorite films of the new millennium, and I especially like the choices the director made.

27.13 - Scenes romantic gesture - Cho Mo-wan and Su Li-zhen choose not to be together, In The Mood For Love

I love the entire trilogy, but this one is a masterpiece. I love the tale that Wong Kar Wai weaves here. He has, over the last two decades, almost single handily rescued Hong Kong cinema from lightweight mediocrity through thematic ambiguity and an arthouse aesthetic.

A seemingly slight plot – man and woman move into the same cramped apartment building, gradually realize their respective spouses are having an affair and develop their own halting romance – is the platform for profound and moving reflections on life's fundamentals. It's a film about, yes, love; but also betrayal, loss, missed opportunities, memory, the brutality of time's passage, loneliness – the list goes on.

Chow Mo-wan: That handbag I saw you with this evening... Where did you buy it?

Su Li-zhen Chan: Why do you ask?

Chow Mo-wan: It looked so elegant. I want to get one for my wife.

Su Li-zhen Chan: Mr. Chow, you're so good to your wife!

Chow Mo-wan: Not really! My wife is so fussy. Her birthday is some days away. I don't know what to get her. Could you buy one for me to give her?

Su Li-zhen Chan: Maybe she wouldn't want one just exactly the same.

Chow Mo-wan: You're right, I didn't think of that.

Su Li-zhen Chan: A woman would mind.

Chow Mo-wan: Yes, especially since we're neighbors. Do they come in other colors?

Su Li-zhen Chan: I'd have to ask my husband.

Chow Mo-wan: Why?

Su Li-zhen Chan: He bought it for me on a business trip abroad. They aren't on sale here.

Chow Mo-wan: Then never mind.

Su Li-zhen Chan: Actually... I want to ask you something too. Where did you buy your tie?

Chow Mo-wan: I don't know where it came from. My wife buys all my ties.

Su Li-zhen Chan: Really?

Chow Mo-wan: She bought this one on a business trip abroad. It's not on sale here.

Su Li-zhen Chan: What a coincidence!

Chow Mo-wan: Yes.

Su Li-zhen Chan: Actually... My husband has one just like it. He said it was a gift from his boss. So he wears it every day.

Chow Mo-wan: And my wife has a bag just like yours.

Su Li-zhen Chan: I know, I've seen it.

Chow Mo-wan: What are you getting at, actually?

Su Li-zhen Chan: I thought I was the only one who knew.

Adultery has sullied their lives: his wife and her husband are having an affair. "For us to do the same thing," they agree, "would mean we are no better than they are." The key word there is "agree." The fact is, they do not agree. It is simply that neither one has the courage to disagree, and time is passing. He wants to sleep with her and she wants to sleep with him, but they are both bound by the moral stand that each believes the other has taken.

Wong Kar-wai leaves the cheating couple offscreen. Movies about adultery are almost always about the adulterers, but the critic Elvis Mitchell observes that the heroes here are "the characters who are usually the victims in a James M. Cain story." Their spouses may sin in Singapore, Tokyo or a downtown love hotel, but they will never sin on the screen of this movie, because their adultery is boring and commonplace, while the reticence of Chow and Su elevates their love to a kind of noble perfection.

[SIZE=15.555556297302246px]In lesser hands, the finale, where Chow whispers his unheard regrets and feelings into a stone hollow at Cambodia's Angkor Wat temple complex, before sealing them inside with mud, could be absurd, melodramatic. Wong makes it heartbreaking. The cello music, which has been following Chow and Mrs. Chan throughout the film, is called Yumeji's Theme. It is sublime. Spotify[/SIZE]

And here it is.

 
krista4 said:
BL, just to clarify, are you taking the final scene of In the Mood for Love as your romantic gesture scene? The write-up, along with your titling of the pick, confused me.
My spidey senses woke me up, so I decided to see what the red flashing light on the phone was about...Yeah, it is confusing. Love is confusing.I just love the movie - it's my favorite sensual film of all-time, and it achieves that wthout eroticism. I love the director's choices, and I love the characters choices.Films speak to us for a variety of reasons, and this one resonated for very personal reasons. At the time I saw it in the theater I was in a brief, torrid fling with a doctor from Hong Kong (and the subtext of In The Mood for Love is very much about the mores of HK in thee 60s). We didn't have a ******* child but did choose not to prolong the affair because of similar societal pressure.IOW, it's a pick for me and me alone. If anything I wrote strikes a chord score it appropriately. If its still dumbfounds you, no worries, I'm fine with any score. I'll take subtle and ambiguous over obviouus and cheesy 8 days a week. YMMVETA: thumbs!!
 
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Total Rankings after 10 Categories

BobbyLayne 172

Nick Vermiel 167

Val Rannous 166

Tremendous Upside 164

Krista4 155

Tiannamen Tank 154

Aerial Assault 147

AcerFC 140

DougB 139

John Madden's Lunchbox 138

Andy Dufresne 137

Karma Police 136

Mrs. Rannous 134

timschochet 134

jwb 125

Mister CIA 121

Time Kibitzer 120

rikishiboy 114

higgins 112

tish155 108

Usual21 105

Kumerica 104

hooter311 104

Dr. Octopus 99

Joffer 98
slowwwwwly climbing

 
1 Requiem for a Dream 2 Trainspotting 3 Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas 4 Up In Smoke 5 Drugstore Cowboy 6 Maria Full of Grace 7 Reefer Madness 8 Harold and Kumar go to White Castle 9 Traffic 10 Midnight Express 11 Blow 12 Dazed and Confused 13 Basketball Diaries 14 New Jack City 15 Easy Rider 16 Fresh 17 Bad Lieutenant 18 Leaving Las Vegas 19 American Gangster 20 Go 21 Altered States 22 Winter's Bone 23 The People vs. Larry Flynt 24 Brick 25 Dune
Seriously? No comments or anything?
I thought the movies ranked higher were better than the movies ranked lower
Works for me.

 
1 Requiem for a Dream 2 Trainspotting 3 Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas 4 Up In Smoke 5 Drugstore Cowboy 6 Maria Full of Grace 7 Reefer Madness 8 Harold and Kumar go to White Castle 9 Traffic 10 Midnight Express 11 Blow 12 Dazed and Confused 13 Basketball Diaries 14 New Jack City 15 Easy Rider 16 Fresh 17 Bad Lieutenant 18 Leaving Las Vegas 19 American Gangster 20 Go 21 Altered States 22 Winter's Bone 23 The People vs. Larry Flynt 24 Brick 25 Dune
Seriously? No comments or anything?
I thought the movies ranked higher were better than the movies ranked lower
Works for me.
Damn. I was looking at a choice between Up in Smoke and Leaving Las Vegas. I selected what I though was the better movie. Ouch.

 
krista4 said:
BL, just to clarify, are you taking the final scene of In the Mood for Love as your romantic gesture scene? The write-up, along with your titling of the pick, confused me.
My spidey senses woke me up, so I decided to see what the red flashing light on the phone was about...Yeah, it is confusing. Love is confusing.I just love the movie - it's my favorite sensual film of all-time, and it achieves that wthout eroticism. I love the director's choices, and I love the characters choices.Films speak to us for a variety of reasons, and this one resonated for very personal reasons. At the time I saw it in the theater I was in a brief, torrid fling with a doctor from Hong Kong (and the subtext of In The Mood for Love is very much about the mores of HK in thee 60s). We didn't have a ******* child but did choose not to prolong the affair because of similar societal pressure.IOW, it's a pick for me and me alone. If anything I wrote strikes a chord score it appropriately. If its still dumbfounds you, no worries, I'm fine with any score. I'll take subtle and ambiguous over obviouus and cheesy 8 days a week. YMMVETA: thumbs!!
Huh??? All I asked is which scene you took. The romantic gesture category is within "scenes", and as was discussed, probably months ago now, upthread, people needed to specify the scene. I've seen the movie twice. I love the movie and its counterpart. Just needed to know which scene you took. A whole movie doesn't count. This was discussed in the context of Up and, to a lesser extent, Highlander.
 
krista4 said:
As soon as I know which scene BL took, I will have rankings and very short comments for the 19 films in romantic gesture I have seen (miscounted before--it's 19 instead of 18). I'll then send those to Mrs. R, who will move things around as she pleases and add in the other six. Between us we were familiar with 24 of 25 movies so should be good.
I don't think he took a scene; he took a romantic gesture. The scene link and the dialogue he posted are part of it. He explained it pretty well in his post.
Not really, in the context of a category that is meant to be a scene. Never mind then; I'll rank accordingly.
 
Total Rankings after 10 CategoriesBobbyLayne 172Nick Vermiel 167Val Rannous 166Tremendous Upside 164Krista4 155Tiannamen Tank 154Aerial Assault 147AcerFC 140DougB 139John Madden's Lunchbox 138Andy Dufresne 137Karma Police 136Mrs. Rannous 134timschochet 134jwb 125Mister CIA 121Time Kibitzer 120rikishiboy 114higgins 112tish155 108Usual21 105Kumerica 104hooter311 104Dr. Octopus 99Joffer 98
Took long enough
 
Total Rankings after 10 Categories

BobbyLayne 172

Nick Vermiel 167

Val Rannous 166

Tremendous Upside 164

Krista4 155

Tiannamen Tank 154

Aerial Assault 147

AcerFC 140

DougB 139

John Madden's Lunchbox 138

Andy Dufresne 137

Karma Police 136

Mrs. Rannous 134

timschochet 134

jwb 125

Mister CIA 121

Time Kibitzer 120

rikishiboy 114

higgins 112

tish155 108

Usual21 105

Kumerica 104

hooter311 104

Dr. Octopus 99

Joffer 98
slowwwwwly climbing
same here.

 
My rankings and short commentary on the 19 romantic gesture movies I've seen sent to Mrs. R, who is free to use them or ignore them as she pleases! There was a pretty clear upper tier for me, then a middle tier of Up and In the Mood for love (which were good romantic gestures but not scenes), and then a distinct lower tier of the sappy stuff.

 
My rankings and short commentary on the 19 romantic gesture movies I've seen sent to Mrs. R, who is free to use them or ignore them as she pleases! There was a pretty clear upper tier for me, then a middle tier of Up and In the Mood for love (which were good romantic gestures but not scenes), and then a distinct lower tier of the sappy stuff.
We're going to have a bit of back and forth here. We totally agree on some and totally disagree on others. Should be fun.

 
My rankings and short commentary on the 19 romantic gesture movies I've seen sent to Mrs. R, who is free to use them or ignore them as she pleases! There was a pretty clear upper tier for me, then a middle tier of Up and In the Mood for love (which were good romantic gestures but not scenes), and then a distinct lower tier of the sappy stuff.
We're going to have a bit of back and forth here. We totally agree on some and totally disagree on others. Should be fun.
Just make sure mine stays on the top where it belongs and it is all good

 
krista4 said:
BL, just to clarify, are you taking the final scene of In the Mood for Love as your romantic gesture scene? The write-up, along with your titling of the pick, confused me.
My spidey senses woke me up, so I decided to see what the red flashing light on the phone was about...Yeah, it is confusing. Love is confusing.

I just love the movie - it's my favorite sensual film of all-time, and it achieves that wthout eroticism. I love the director's choices, and I love the characters choices.

Films speak to us for a variety of reasons, and this one resonated for very personal reasons. At the time I saw it in the theater I was in a brief, torrid fling with a doctor from Hong Kong (and the subtext of In The Mood for Love is very much about the mores of HK in thee 60s). We didn't have a ******* child but did choose not to prolong the affair because of similar societal pressure.

IOW, it's a pick for me and me alone. If anything I wrote strikes a chord score it appropriately. If its still dumbfounds you, no worries, I'm fine with any score. I'll take subtle and ambiguous over obviouus and cheesy 8 days a week. YMMV

ETA: thumbs!!
Huh??? All I asked is which scene you took. The romantic gesture category is within "scenes", and as was discussed, probably months ago now, upthread, people needed to specify the scene. I've seen the movie twice. I love the movie and its counterpart. Just needed to know which scene you took. A whole movie doesn't count. This was discussed in the context of Up and, to a lesser extent, Highlander.
The finale, where Chow whispers his unheard regrets and feelings into a stone hollow at Cambodia's Angkor Wat temple complex, before sealing them inside with mud

 
krista4 said:
BL, just to clarify, are you taking the final scene of In the Mood for Love as your romantic gesture scene? The write-up, along with your titling of the pick, confused me.
My spidey senses woke me up, so I decided to see what the red flashing light on the phone was about...Yeah, it is confusing. Love is confusing.

I just love the movie - it's my favorite sensual film of all-time, and it achieves that wthout eroticism. I love the director's choices, and I love the characters choices.

Films speak to us for a variety of reasons, and this one resonated for very personal reasons. At the time I saw it in the theater I was in a brief, torrid fling with a doctor from Hong Kong (and the subtext of In The Mood for Love is very much about the mores of HK in thee 60s). We didn't have a ******* child but did choose not to prolong the affair because of similar societal pressure.

IOW, it's a pick for me and me alone. If anything I wrote strikes a chord score it appropriately. If its still dumbfounds you, no worries, I'm fine with any score. I'll take subtle and ambiguous over obviouus and cheesy 8 days a week. YMMV

ETA: thumbs!!
Huh??? All I asked is which scene you took. The romantic gesture category is within "scenes", and as was discussed, probably months ago now, upthread, people needed to specify the scene. I've seen the movie twice. I love the movie and its counterpart. Just needed to know which scene you took. A whole movie doesn't count. This was discussed in the context of Up and, to a lesser extent, Highlander.
The finale, where Chow whispers his unheard regrets and feelings into a stone hollow at Cambodia's Angkor Wat temple complex, before sealing them inside with mud
Gotcha. Mrs. R, on this basis I'd move it up a little. But again all these rankings are for you at this point since I ceded the judging to you. If I'd known I could just pull a TU without incident, I would have done that!

 
My rankings and short commentary on the 19 romantic gesture movies I've seen sent to Mrs. R, who is free to use them or ignore them as she pleases! There was a pretty clear upper tier for me, then a middle tier of Up and In the Mood for love (which were good romantic gestures but not scenes), and then a distinct lower tier of the sappy stuff.
We're going to have a bit of back and forth here. We totally agree on some and totally disagree on others. Should be fun.
Just make sure mine stays on the top where it belongs and it is all good
Yours was one of the six I hadn't seen, but Mrs. R thought it would rank well.

 
Rankings for Scenes that Scared you as a Child.

These rankings are based on 2 factors - how scary the scene is, and how appropriate the scene is for the list. What I did was gave demerits for being slightly off target, way off target, or completely off target in those two categories, and then ranked between movies with the same number of demerits. I tried to keep this as close as possible to the start idea, since I was not the original judge here. Hopefully I won't start any flame wars this time...

On with the show!

 
Scenes that Scared you as a Child, Part I

1 point – Kentucky Fried Movie. Not scary, not a movie intended for kids in any way, and should not be anywhere on this list. I’m assuming this was a joke pick.

2 points – Godzilla dies. Again, not a movie intended for kids, but here at least you can see if a kid is watching he’d be concerned for the big rubber guy, although to be truthful I’d say more sad than scared.

3 points – Gremlins. I guess some parents took kids to see this – bad decision making time, as it’s not really designed for kids. The scene selected has lots of gremlins acting stupid – not scary. A couple more points would have been awarded (even without it being for kids) if the scene with the mother defending her kitchen had been selected, cause the gremlins take it HARD.

4 points – E.T. dies. Here at least there’s a tinge of appropriateness, the movie is at least somewhat a kid’s film, but the scare factor isn’t there. Even the kids in the film seem more saddened than scared. Again, there is a scarier scene here – when the Astronauts invade the house, there’s a little something scary happening.

5 points – The Watcher in the Woods. Our first Disney film here, so it’s at least in the ballpark for the list, although it seems more teen-ish than a true kids film. Not an overly scary scene, either – you’ve got some supernatural / sci-fi mumbo jumbo and a bit of a light show, but that’s it. Scariest thing in this film is either the blindfolded Karen looking out of various mirrors, or the fact that Bette Davis was still working at that age.

6 points – Jurassic Park. Love the film, but not really appropriate. Since good ol’ T-Rex is at least scary, this gets a few points. But, really, people get eaten here, with scares designed to freak out adults – of course that’s going to be scary (and not appropriate) for an 8 year old.

7 points – Poltergeist. This will be the last film here that really doesn’t belong – it’s a paranormal horror film, flat out. This does score highest of the “doesn’t belong” list for being the scariest scene of them all – the clown doll disappearing under the bed before it attacks is creepy even for adults, as it plays on memories of that precise sort of scare when we were kids – what the heck is under there and is it gonna get me. Plus, it’s a clown.

8 points – Sloth from The Goonies. Everything from this point on is at least nominally a kids flick, although some are some question marks I’ll point out later, but they were all at least marketed as family fare. I found Sloth here hard to rate – when he first appears he does scare the kid, but only because he’s deformed and noisy. If you watch the scene closely, you’ll note he’s chained up and watching an old movie, and stops being scary almost instantly (since all he really wants is a candy bar). I’d say Sloth is more heroic than scary – it’s not his fault he looks the way he does.

9 points and 10 points – The Great Owl from The Secret of Nimh, and The Gmork from The Neverending Story. Combined review here, as these are very similar scenes – in both we get a quick “Ooh!” from the appearance of a creature from a dark recess, then both scenes descend into a lot of talking. Since when is verbose scary? The Owl’s surroundings are scary, but he’s basically trying to help, especially after he identifies Mrs. Brisby’s husband. The Gmork is slightly scarier (and gets the extra point) since his talk-talk is NOT designed to be helpful, he’s out to see the hero lose.

11 points – The giant squid from 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea. Big critter attacking the ship during a storm, with men out on deck fighting it. I guess if you’re scared of water this might be somewhat frightening, but even as a kid you’d be going – hey, look, big fake monster. Plus, Verne is really for a slightly older crowd, even if it’s filmed by Disney. However, it at least looks dangerous.

12 points – The Forest of No Return from Babes in Toyland. Here the woods come alive and out and out threaten the kids – you’re never gonna leave. However, they’re singing when they do it and they couldn’t possibly look more fake, so the threat is somewhat mitigated. If you buy in, though, the trees press closer and closer, trying to get the kids – there’s at least some viable threat here.

13 points – Large Marge from Peewee’s Big Adventure. Not 100% sure about this being a kids flick, but it’s close enough to cut some slack. Here we get a creepy truck driver telling a ghost story to Peewee, with the “gonna scare you” face ending. Good buildup, good payoff, it qualifies as scary. But it’s played for laughs some – the scary face is a weird, over the top goofy face, too. I can’t give this one more than middle of the road points – heck, Large Marge is scarier to me without modification.

 
Scenes that Scared you as a Child, Part II

14 points – Watership Down. OK, this film was horribly mis-marketed. Sure, it’s animated, and it’s about bunnies. But, oh my God, it’s dark, bloody, and violent – what the hell were they thinking? Is the scene scary? Sure – but then so is the opening scene to Saving Private Ryan, and is about the same level of appropriateness in truth. This whole damn film is adult scary.

15 points – Old Yeller gets rabies. This scene would be more sad than scary except that there’s an idiot kid who is trying to let the rabid dog out of the corn crib. This is tragic, sad, maudlin – name your adjective, scary is really not that high up outside of the stupidity factor. Still, it’s scary for that reason, and is a classic kid’s film – no arguments there.

16 points – The Skeleton army from Jason and the Argonauts. Harryhausen rules, and this is a classic scene. There’s just enough realism here to spook the hell out of kids watching. Admittedly the base material is not kid stuff, which holds it back a notch, but not by much.

17 points – The Angel of Death from The Prince of Egypt. My selection, and it is creepy, real Wrath of God Old Testament stuff. How many animated films show a human being dying right there on screen? Worse, it’s a kid lying in bed – the angel passes, and the kid breaths out his soul with his last breath. The symbolic candle snuffing isn’t much better. Then once the Angel leaves, you can hear the lamenting starting. Like the Argonauts in the previous selection, this gets a minor ding for source material being NOT kids stuff.

18 points – The Night on Bald Mountain from Fantasia. Ooh, creepy. This scene is classic stuff – Demonic entities, the dead rising from the grave, spirits being hurled into hellfire, all to one of the best evil sounding pieces of music ever – it’s all good. However, Uncle Walt really meant Fantasia to be a culturally uplifting piece of cinematic art, not so much for little Bobby and Mary Sue. What I learned from this is Evil is way cooler than Good, as the follow-up counter piece here is the world’s most boring Ave Maria.

19 points – Bambi’s Mom gets shot. Basically everything from this point on is right on target frightening stuff, there’s not a lot to separate from here to the 25 point winner. This is the lowest ranked of the top notch stuff, as the death happens off screen and we never see her again. The death itself is sad, but losing a mother for a kid is so traumatic that it jumps over to scary.

20 points – Flying monkeys from The Wizard of Oz. Quality scare here. Inhuman demonic flying critters find our heroine in a deep, seriously f-ed up forest and take her and her little dog, too – and do a number on her friends at the same time (a party member gets literally dismembered here – the fact he’s made of straw makes it a little less grisly) Plus Margaret Hamilton is one of the scariest baddies of all time.

21 points – The Haunted Forest from Snow White. Somebody at Disney was off their meds when they did this one – everything Snow finds in the forest as she’s trying to run away is inanimate, but it all comes to life in her mind and we have the clawing, grabbing, just plain evil stuff here. It looks like everything is out to get her, and really plays on the minds of those watching as well.

22 points – The donkey transformation from Pinocchio. Geez, wet down the whip before delivering the message, why don’t cha. Act like a jackass, turn into one. What makes this really scary is that the resulting transformed bad boys are sold into slavery in the salt mines as dumb animals for the rest of their lives – Gah.

23 points – Tunnel scene from Willy Wonka. The top three are a basic coin flip – any of these could easily be #1. I expected this to be the top scorer going in, but upon reflection it’s just as much of an acid trip as a wet your pants experience. It’s a great scare, but I dunno how much a child watching it will understand. Honestly it’s probably scarier for adults watching – we know this is wrong, wrong, wrong.

24 points – The Child Catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. The Child Catcher could easily come across as a traditional melodrama villain, but instead takes it to a whole other level of creep. Offer candy and pies to draw out your prey, and ice cream to get them into your van (err, wagon) moves this into way too realistic territory. Would ring the bell if not for the final, completely twisted selection.

25 points – The Brave Little Toaster. All I can say is wow. I hadn’t seen this before doing this ranking, and this is about as messed up as you can get. Animated as cutely as possible to keep you thinking this can’t possibly be this bad, we get fire, animated smoke hands, creepy clown fireman, the toaster being chased by water and forks, and finally, being suspended while plugged in over a tub of water!?!? Wow, how much suicide imagery you wanna jam into 60 seconds?!? This is so disturbing it bothers me NOW, and I’m 48. Totally sick and disturbed, and the list champ.

 
25 points – The Brave Little Toaster.

24 points – The Child Catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.

23 points – Tunnel scene from Willy Wonka.

22 points – Donkey transformation from Pinocchio.

21 points – The Haunted Forest from Snow White.

20 points – Flying monkeys from The Wizard of Oz.

19 points – Bambi’s Mom gets shot.

18 points – The Night on Bald Mountain from Fantasia.

17 points – The Angel of Death from The Prince of Egypt.

16 points – The Skeleton army from Jason and the Argonauts.

15 points – Old Yeller gets rabies.

14 points – Watership Down.

13 points – Large Marge from Peewee’s Big Adventure.

12 points – The Forest of No Return from Babes in Toyland.

11 points – The giant squid from 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea.

10 points –The Gmork from The Neverending Story.

9 points – The Great Owl from The Secret of Nimh.

8 points – Sloth from The Goonies.

7 points – Poltergeist.

6 points – Jurassic Park.

5 points – The Watcher in the Woods.

4 points – E.T. dies.

3 points – Gremlins.

2 points – Godzilla dies.

1 point – Kentucky Fried Movie.

 
Scenes that Scared you as a Child, Part I

1 point – Kentucky Fried Movie. Not scary, not a movie intended for kids in any way, and should not be anywhere on this list. I’m assuming this was a joke pick.
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Laugh all you want, but I thought this was what sex and masturbation was all about.

I was fairly naive as a kid and we didn't have sex ed.

Where was I going to find a dwarf? Why were cream pies involved?

I knew you weren't supposed to masturbate, especially if your hands went all green.

Needless to say this scene is NSFW

11.21 - Kentuckyfried Movie - Catholic High School Girls in Trouble
13 is still young enough to be a kid right? NO movie ever scared me. This was the first one to do that.

I don't expect anyone to understand.

 
Good rankings. I do think gremlins is too low. Cuteness of gizmo had kids clamoring to see it. poltergeist is too high fort obviously reasons.

 
Scenes that Scared you as a Child, Part I

3 points – Gremlins. I guess some parents took kids to see this – bad decision making time, as it’s not really designed for kids. The scene selected has lots of gremlins acting stupid – not scary. A couple more points would have been awarded (even without it being for kids) if the scene with the mother defending her kitchen had been selected, cause the gremlins take it HARD.
1) 'Gremlins' NOT for kids?!?! What planet are you from?

2) I specifically took the kitchen scene. Here is the link. I originally took the scene you were referring to, and immediately switched it to the kitchen scene (which we were allowed to do) in honor of KP who....

3) ...was the original judge and commented on the fact that he was taken out of the theater crying and screaming based on that kitchen scene.

'Gremlins' not supposed to be for kids?!?!? And he deducts points based on NOT choosing the scene that I actually chose??!?!

I have no problem with Val or anyone else for judging me poorly in a subjective song draft, but this was pretty straight forward. Will you at least concede me some more points based on the fact that I DID pick the kitchen scene, and will you go over this selection with the original judge?

 
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