timdraft #4: Movie Category Draft (3 Viewers)

[joffer]

RULES QUESTION

I'm going take a movie off the board with my next pick for a specific scene. Do I have the option to use the same movie but a different scene?

If you move it to another category or just choose a different scene in that movie later, yes. If you want to have both scenes in different categories, no.

OK, thanks.

May later choose a classroom scene from To Sir With Love.

ETA: e.g., move it from Dance Scene to Classroom Scene using a different segment.

That's been done a number of times in the draft.

I thought so, and I was a little bewildered by Joffer's response. I probably didn't make it clear in my initial question. Anyway, thanks for clearing that up for me.

yeah i read your question differently. sorry

 

[AcerFC]

10. joffer- The mouse that roared
11. Tiannamen Tank- autoskip
12. Nick Vermiel- Presumed Innocent

13. BobbyLayne- autoskip
14. tish155- White Men cant jump
15. timschochet- King and I
16. Karma Police- autoskip
17. higgins- autoskip
18. hooter311- autoskip
19. Aerial Assault- autoskip

20. Val Rannous- OTC til 12:40est
21. Doug B- autoskip
22. Time Kibitzer- On Deck
23. Andy Dufresne- In The hole
24. Mister CIA-autoskip
25. rikishiboy- autoskip

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Boy there are a lot of good spy movies, aren't there?

 

[AcerFC]

Val times out. Time Kibitzer about to be PMed

 

[BobbyLayne]

RULES QUESTION

I'm going take a movie off the board with my next pick for a specific scene. Do I have the option to use the same movie but a different scene?

If you move it to another category or just choose a different scene in that movie later, yes. If you want to have both scenes in different categories, no.

OK, thanks.

May later choose a classroom scene from To Sir With Love.

ETA: e.g., move it from Dance Scene to Classroom Scene using a different segment.

That's been done a number of times in the draft.

I thought so, and I was a little bewildered by Joffer's response. I probably didn't make it clear in my initial question. Anyway, thanks for clearing that up for me.

yeah i read your question differently. sorry

NHNF

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

26.20 - Jane Darwell as Ma Joad from The Grapes of Wrath - Best Parent

A stellar, Oscar-winning performance in a great movie.

I have no idea why this is still available.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

You can skip Val for now. He has no idea what his next pick is.

 

[Time Kibitzer]

For future reference I can still be skipped if I'm OTC before 1pm EST.

26.22 - Waking Life - Dream Sequence[SIZE=10.5pt][/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt] [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]The scene from 47:19 to 53:40[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt] [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Contemplated this pick earlier, but even though the whole film is pretty well one big dream sequence, I wasn’t sure how well any one scene would fit into the category, but what the heck. My first impression of the film was that the animation made me dizzy and the dialogue was nothing more than philosophical bull#### with no foothold in reality. But as the movie progressed the combination of the music, animation, surreal sequences, dialogue of interesting ideas and anecdotes, and the scattered nature of the film entranced me to the point that I was blown away as it finished. [/SIZE]

 

[Andy Dufresne]

26.23 -


In addition to presenting the appropriate ambience for Argentina in the mid-1970s, it features the realization of another formidable technical challenge in creating a continuous five-minute-long shot (designed by the visual effects supervisor Rodrigo S. Tomasso), that encompasses an entire stadium during a live football match. From a standard aerial overview we approach the stadium, dive in, cross the field between the players mid-match and find the protagonist in the crowd, then take a circular move around him and follow as he shuffles through the stands until he finds the suspect, only to conclude with a feverish stop-and-go chase on foot through the murky rooms and corridors beneath the stands, finally ending under the lights in the middle of the pitch. The scene was filmed in the stadium of football club Huracán, and took three months of pre-production, three days of shooting and nine months of post-production. Two hundred extras took part in the shooting, and visual effects created a fully packed stadium with nearly fifty thousand fans

 

[Andy Dufresne]

27.03 -


You think the guy made it but..

 

[AcerFC]

Reds are skips. Last one for the day

Round 27
1. rikishiboy
2. Mister CIA
3. Andy Dufresne- Body Snatchers
4. Time Kibitzer
5. Doug B
6. Val Rannous
7. Aerial Assault
8. hooter311
9. higgins
10. Karma Police
11. timschochet
12. Tish155- I have her picks
13. BobbyLayne
14. Nick Vermeil
15. Tiannamen Tank
16. Joffer
17. krista4- I have her picks ( I think N Vermiel does too)
18. Mrs. Rannous
19. jwb
20. Dr. Octopus
21. John Madden's Lunchbox
22. Kumerica
23. Tremendous Upside
24. AcerFC
25. Usual21

 

[Time Kibitzer]

26.23 -

That was a very cool scene, never seen it before. Will have to check that film out.

 

[timschochet]

Damn it, I should have paid more attention. I thought once an actor was taken in a category, they were done

I thought the same thing from casually following along. The rules regarding the multiple drafting of movies and actors should have been listed on the front page. Since you couldn't take the same movie or it's franchise once one was drafted, I too assumed you couldn't repeat an actor. It's hard for people to follow every piece of dialogue that is scattered throughout the draft when having to check in when they can.

Eddie Murphy is on that list twice and has been for at least 12 rounds.

 

[meanjoegreen]

Damn it, I should have paid more attention. I thought once an actor was taken in a category, they were done

I thought the same thing from casually following along. The rules regarding the multiple drafting of movies and actors should have been listed on the front page. Since you couldn't take the same movie or it's franchise once one was drafted, I too assumed you couldn't repeat an actor. It's hard for people to follow every piece of dialogue that is scattered throughout the draft when having to check in when they can.

Eddie Murphy is on that list twice and has been for at least 12 rounds.

Is that your way of saying that you don't think it would be clearer to all the drafters if the rules were written on the front page?

 

[timschochet]

Unbelievable that I can't find a Youtube clip of "Shall We Dance". Anyhow, here is the music:

 

[BobbyLayne]

26.13 - Scenes fight scene


House of Flying Daggers
A scene so epic the seasons change from Fall to Winter before they finish.

There's no way I can finish a movie draft with at least one Zhang Yimou film.

 

[timschochet]

Damn it, I should have paid more attention. I thought once an actor was taken in a category, they were done

I thought the same thing from casually following along. The rules regarding the multiple drafting of movies and actors should have been listed on the front page. Since you couldn't take the same movie or it's franchise once one was drafted, I too assumed you couldn't repeat an actor. It's hard for people to follow every piece of dialogue that is scattered throughout the draft when having to check in when they can.

Eddie Murphy is on that list twice and has been for at least 12 rounds.

Is that your way of saying that you don't think it would be clearer to all the drafters if the rules were written on the front page?

No its my way of saying shut the #### up.

 

[Tiananmen Tank]

26.11 Hot Fuzz -- England

Representation of the English countryside combined with an English interpretation of American action movies. In addition: hilarious.

So I'm driving to Coachella today and will probably be out of action until Monday. #skip for the remainder of that period, sorry guys. I'll try to duck in and make picks before I pass out at night but I can't make any promises.

 

[Time Kibitzer]

27.04 - Four Lions - England Film

England is a very multi-cultural country these days, so I'm thinking this movie fits the category even though it's about a group of Muslims. Plus it's made by the hilarious British satirist Christopher Morris; this film led me on to Morris' The Day Today show which is hilarious as well.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Reds are skips. Last one for the day

Round 27

4. Time Kibitzer

11. timschochet

12. Tish155- I have her picks

Taking out the skips, looks like I squeeze in 27.13 pretty soon...

Shoot me a PM, please. I have the pick ready.

 

[timschochet]

First post updated

 

[meanjoegreen]

Damn it, I should have paid more attention. I thought once an actor was taken in a category, they were done

I thought the same thing from casually following along. The rules regarding the multiple drafting of movies and actors should have been listed on the front page. Since you couldn't take the same movie or it's franchise once one was drafted, I too assumed you couldn't repeat an actor. It's hard for people to follow every piece of dialogue that is scattered throughout the draft when having to check in when they can.

Eddie Murphy is on that list twice and has been for at least 12 rounds.

Is that your way of saying that you don't think it would be clearer to all the drafters if the rules were written on the front page?

No its my way of saying shut the #### up.

Ok, but you did have some things in the wrong category for several rounds (example Kramer vs Kramer), so going by what is listed in a category isn't always a good way to understand a rule.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

11. timschochet - OTC until 2:58
12. Tish155- I have her picks
13. BobbyLayne
14. Nick Vermeil
15. Tiannamen Tank
16. Joffer
17. krista4- I have her picks ( I think N Vermiel does too)
18. Mrs. Rannous
19. jwb
20. Dr. Octopus
21. John Madden's Lunchbox
22. Kumerica
23. Tremendous Upside
24. AcerFC
25. Usual21

 

[timschochet]

Performance- England

Here's "Memo From Turner", sung by Mick Jagger, one of the stars of the film:

 

[AcerFC]

For Tish

Halloween, long take

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

Unbelievable that I can't find a Youtube clip of "Shall We Dance". Anyhow, here is the music:

I think it's the same reason I couldn't find a clip. TCM is camping out on your movie.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

Can someone take my next pick? After that, I'll just skip and post tonight.

 

[jwb]

27.03 -

The judge likes this pick.

 

[Time Kibitzer]

Can someone take my next pick? After that, I'll just skip and post tonight.

Yup.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

Can someone take my next pick? After that, I'll just skip and post tonight.

Yup.

Done. Thanks.

 

[Doug B]

Makeup picks -- kinda in a hurry:

26.21:


, end of Office and a Gentleman (Romantic Gesture)...

27.05: What the #$*! Do We Know!? (No Idea)

...

 

[Andy Dufresne]

For TishHalloween, long take

Spoiler

It's actually two takes, but let's not tell anyone.

 

[joffer]

For TishHalloween, long take

Spoiler

It's actually two takes, but let's not tell anyone.

Spoiler

which scene(s)?

 

[BobbyLayne]

This pick is a bit nuanced, and reliant on my interpretation. This is one of favorite films of the new millennium, and I especially like the choices the director made.

27.13 - Scenes romantic gesture - Cho Mo-wan and Su Li-zhen choose not to be together, In The Mood For Love

I love the entire trilogy, but this one is a masterpiece. I love the tale that Wong Kar Wai weaves here. He has, over the last two decades, almost single handily rescued Hong Kong cinema from lightweight mediocrity through thematic ambiguity and an arthouse aesthetic.

A seemingly slight plot – man and woman move into the same cramped apartment building, gradually realize their respective spouses are having an affair and develop their own halting romance – is the platform for profound and moving reflections on life's fundamentals. It's a film about, yes, love; but also betrayal, loss, missed opportunities, memory, the brutality of time's passage, loneliness – the list goes on.

Chow Mo-wan: That handbag I saw you with this evening... Where did you buy it?

Su Li-zhen Chan: Why do you ask?
Chow Mo-wan: It looked so elegant. I want to get one for my wife.
Su Li-zhen Chan: Mr. Chow, you're so good to your wife!
Chow Mo-wan: Not really! My wife is so fussy. Her birthday is some days away. I don't know what to get her. Could you buy one for me to give her?
Su Li-zhen Chan: Maybe she wouldn't want one just exactly the same.
Chow Mo-wan: You're right, I didn't think of that.
Su Li-zhen Chan: A woman would mind.
Chow Mo-wan: Yes, especially since we're neighbors. Do they come in other colors?
Su Li-zhen Chan: I'd have to ask my husband.
Chow Mo-wan: Why?
Su Li-zhen Chan: He bought it for me on a business trip abroad. They aren't on sale here.
Chow Mo-wan: Then never mind.
Su Li-zhen Chan: Actually... I want to ask you something too. Where did you buy your tie?
Chow Mo-wan: I don't know where it came from. My wife buys all my ties.
Su Li-zhen Chan: Really?
Chow Mo-wan: She bought this one on a business trip abroad. It's not on sale here.
Su Li-zhen Chan: What a coincidence!
Chow Mo-wan: Yes.
Su Li-zhen Chan: Actually... My husband has one just like it. He said it was a gift from his boss. So he wears it every day.
Chow Mo-wan: And my wife has a bag just like yours.
Su Li-zhen Chan: I know, I've seen it.
Chow Mo-wan: What are you getting at, actually?
Su Li-zhen Chan: I thought I was the only one who knew.

Adultery has sullied their lives: his wife and her husband are having an affair. "For us to do the same thing," they agree, "would mean we are no better than they are." The key word there is "agree." The fact is, they do not agree. It is simply that neither one has the courage to disagree, and time is passing. He wants to sleep with her and she wants to sleep with him, but they are both bound by the moral stand that each believes the other has taken.

Wong Kar-wai leaves the cheating couple offscreen. Movies about adultery are almost always about the adulterers, but the critic Elvis Mitchell observes that the heroes here are "the characters who are usually the victims in a James M. Cain story." Their spouses may sin in Singapore, Tokyo or a downtown love hotel, but they will never sin on the screen of this movie, because their adultery is boring and commonplace, while the reticence of Chow and Su elevates their love to a kind of noble perfection.

[SIZE=15.555556297302246px]In lesser hands, the finale, where Chow whispers his unheard regrets and feelings into a stone hollow at Cambodia's Angkor Wat temple complex, before sealing them inside with mud, could be absurd, melodramatic. Wong makes it heartbreaking. The cello music, which has been following Chow and Mrs. Chan throughout the film, is called Yumeji's Theme. It is sublime. Spotify[/SIZE]

This scene was foreshadowed earlier in the film.

Chow Mo-wan: In the old days, if someone had a secret they didn't want to share... you know what they did?
Ah Ping: Have no idea.
Chow Mo-wan: They went up a mountain, found a tree, carved a hole in it, and whispered the secret into the hole. Then they covered it with mud. And leave the secret there forever.
Ah Ping: What a pain! I'd just go to get laid.
Chow Mo-wan: Not everyone's like you.

We are accustomed to seeing graphic sex in narrations that we forget that there was a time when filmmakers would suggest copulation by simply showing the slack-mouthed couples ride off in a sleigh or haywagon only to return into the next scene with a bulging gut or a fat toddler stuck to the hip - voila! Meet your child.

The director chose the same nostalgic approach in telling the story of Mr Chow and Mrs Chan.

Mr Chow fools Mrs Chan into showing her real emotions when they rehearse his departure forever. Next scene: Mrs Chan leans her head on Mr Chow in the taxi and says "I do not want to go home tonight".

Why then did the couple just not do the modern thing of dumping their cheating spouses,get a divorce,raise their love child and live happily ever after? The answer is that this whole story takes place in Hong Kong during the Sixties. A ******* would live in a bleak life of shame if he were the child of an adulteress; whereas,a "legitimate" child could live a tragic but noble/honest life if his mother chose to raise him away from his cheating "father" - the invisible Mr Chan. In short, Mr Chow and Mrs Chan sacrifices their relationship for the future of their child.

That is why Mr Chow, upon learning that Mrs Chan lives alone with a little boy, gives a knowing smile and ends his dreams of making Mrs Chan his Mrs Chow. He then also realizes why Mrs Chan went to all the way to Singapore to be with him, only to reconsiders at the last moment and leave - choosing to never see him again (but not before taking some unnamed keepsake) Mr Chow lives with this wonderful secret with no one to tell. No one,except for a crumbling temple wall and of course we the viewer...but only if we listen carefully.

 

[BobbyLayne]

ScottNorwood

The last three picks are all yours.

BobbyLayne/ScottNorwood

MOVIES

done

SCENES
classroom scene
courtroom scene

PORTRAYALS
dramatic actor in a comedic role

 

[AcerFC]

Tl:dr

 

[Nick Vermeil]

This pick is a bit nuanced, and reliant on my interpretation. This is one of favorite films of the new millennium, and I especially like the choices the director made.

27.13 - Scenes romantic gesture - Cho Mo-wan and Su Li-zhen choose not to be together, In The Mood For Love

I love the entire trilogy, but this one is a masterpiece. I love the tale that Wong Kar Wai weaves here. He has, over the last two decades, almost single handily rescued Hong Kong cinema from lightweight mediocrity through thematic ambiguity and an arthouse aesthetic.

A seemingly slight plot – man and woman move into the same cramped apartment building, gradually realize their respective spouses are having an affair and develop their own halting romance – is the platform for profound and moving reflections on life's fundamentals. It's a film about, yes, love; but also betrayal, loss, missed opportunities, memory, the brutality of time's passage, loneliness – the list goes on.

Chow Mo-wan: That handbag I saw you with this evening... Where did you buy it?

Su Li-zhen Chan: Why do you ask?

Chow Mo-wan: It looked so elegant. I want to get one for my wife.

Su Li-zhen Chan: Mr. Chow, you're so good to your wife!

Chow Mo-wan: Not really! My wife is so fussy. Her birthday is some days away. I don't know what to get her. Could you buy one for me to give her?

Su Li-zhen Chan: Maybe she wouldn't want one just exactly the same.

Chow Mo-wan: You're right, I didn't think of that.

Su Li-zhen Chan: A woman would mind.

Chow Mo-wan: Yes, especially since we're neighbors. Do they come in other colors?

Su Li-zhen Chan: I'd have to ask my husband.

Chow Mo-wan: Why?

Su Li-zhen Chan: He bought it for me on a business trip abroad. They aren't on sale here.

Chow Mo-wan: Then never mind.

Su Li-zhen Chan: Actually... I want to ask you something too. Where did you buy your tie?

Chow Mo-wan: I don't know where it came from. My wife buys all my ties.

Su Li-zhen Chan: Really?

Chow Mo-wan: She bought this one on a business trip abroad. It's not on sale here.

Su Li-zhen Chan: What a coincidence!

Chow Mo-wan: Yes.

Su Li-zhen Chan: Actually... My husband has one just like it. He said it was a gift from his boss. So he wears it every day.

Chow Mo-wan: And my wife has a bag just like yours.

Su Li-zhen Chan: I know, I've seen it.

Chow Mo-wan: What are you getting at, actually?

Su Li-zhen Chan: I thought I was the only one who knew.

Adultery has sullied their lives: his wife and her husband are having an affair. "For us to do the same thing," they agree, "would mean we are no better than they are." The key word there is "agree." The fact is, they do not agree. It is simply that neither one has the courage to disagree, and time is passing. He wants to sleep with her and she wants to sleep with him, but they are both bound by the moral stand that each believes the other has taken.

Wong Kar-wai leaves the cheating couple offscreen. Movies about adultery are almost always about the adulterers, but the critic Elvis Mitchell observes that the heroes here are "the characters who are usually the victims in a James M. Cain story." Their spouses may sin in Singapore, Tokyo or a downtown love hotel, but they will never sin on the screen of this movie, because their adultery is boring and commonplace, while the reticence of Chow and Su elevates their love to a kind of noble perfection.

[SIZE=15.555556297302246px]In lesser hands, the finale, where Chow whispers his unheard regrets and feelings into a stone hollow at Cambodia's Angkor Wat temple complex, before sealing them inside with mud, could be absurd, melodramatic. Wong makes it heartbreaking. The cello music, which has been following Chow and Mrs. Chan throughout the film, is called Yumeji's Theme. It is sublime. Spotify[/SIZE]

TLDR

 

[AcerFC]

For TishHalloween, long take

Spoiler

It's actually two takes, but let's not tell anyone.

Spoiler

which scene(s)?

that is all she sent. He is out of town. I'm sure she will list it when she gets back

 

[BobbyLayne]

NGASWYT

 

[Andy Dufresne]

For TishHalloween, long take

Spoiler

It's actually two takes, but let's not tell anyone.

Spoiler

which scene(s)?

Spoiler

In the commentary for the film on the 25th anniversary edition, John Carpenter describes where it actually cuts in the film. When Michael puts on the mask.

But anyway, enough of it is one take that it still qualifies and qualifies well for the category, IMO.

 

[Nick Vermeil]

Tim, please move Billy Elliot to England Movie.

27.14 Max Pameranc as Josh Waitzkin in Searching for Bobby Fischer - Child Performance

Once again another of my favorite movies and another that has 100% fresh on Rotten Tomatoes. This really is a performance by a child where as the Billy Elliot pick was pushing the judge's criteria. Max has to act along side some heavy hitters and holds his own. It's a quiet and patient performance.

Opening Move

 

[KarmaPolice]

Tim, please move Billy Elliot to England Movie.

27.14 Max Pameranc as Josh Waitzkin in Searching for Bobby Fischer - Child Performance

Once again another of my favorite movies and another that has 100% fresh on Rotten Tomatoes. This really is a performance by a child where as the Billy Elliot pick was pushing the judge's criteria. Max has to act along side some heavy hitters and holds his own. It's a quiet and patient performance.

Great pick that hadnt crossed my mind.

 

[joffer]

22.10 - Roadhouse - Fight Scene

the one right after the buxom blonde dances. Jimmy fights the bouncers, then Wade, the Dalton (briefly). I'll look for a kink

THROAT RIP!!!

yeah that's better, i'll take that one

5:32-8:00

 

[AcerFC]

For Krista

27.17 Charade, Spy Film

 

[Time Kibitzer]

27.16 - Tom-Yum-Goong (The Protector) - Long Take

That link goes to Roadhouse again..

 

[Time Kibitzer]

For Mrs. Rannous:

27.18 - Christina Ricci in The Addams Family - Performance by Child Actor

 

[KarmaPolice]

27.16 - Tom-Yum-Goong (The Protector) - Long Take

That link goes to Roadhouse again..

And isn't that one taken?

 

[Usual21]

27.16 - Tom-Yum-Goong (The Protector) - Long Take

That link goes to Roadhouse again..

Plus I took Protector in round 6.

 

[joffer]

so other than the wrong link and duplicate pick, what's the problem

sorry, repick coming

 

[jwb]

27.19 -


- Gambling ScenePhilip Seymour Hoffman just_can't_stop