timdraft #4: Movie Category Draft (1 Viewer)

[BobbyLayne]

[SIZE=12pt]1. This is Spinal Tap – 25 points[/SIZE]

2. Almost Famous – 24 points

[SIZE=medium]3. The Last Waltz – 23 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]4. Eddie and the Cruisers – 22 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]5. Gimme Shelter – 21 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]6. 24 Hour Party People – 20 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]7. American Graffiti – 19 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]8. Woodstock – 18 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]9. A Hard Day's Night – 17 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]10. Sid and Nancy – 16 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]11. The Decline of Western Civilization – 15 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]12. Purple Rain – 14 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]13. The Buddy Holly Story – 13 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]15. High Fidelity – 11 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]16. Streets of Fire – 10 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]17. Sound City - 9 points [/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]18. Tommy – 8 points [/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]19. Jailhouse Rock – 7 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]20. Anvil! The Story of Anvil – 6 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]21. Hard Core Logo – 5 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]22. [/SIZE][SIZE=12pt]Shine a Light – 4 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]23. Velvet Goldmine – 3 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]24. It Might Get Loud – 2 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]25. That Thing You Do! – 1 point[/SIZE]

4 points higher than Nick's

Brilliant judging, Doc

 

[BobbyLayne]

I'm glad youi said something, AA, because I overlooked the multiple performances rankings totally. Thanks for the catch.

However, BobbyLayne did widen his lead a smidge

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Movie Draft Score through 20 22 of 30 Categories

Drafter - Total

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BobbyLayne 1st

Nick Vermeil (-23)

(I think)

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Doc Ock, I thought that overall you did an excellent job. Obviously I disagree with your ranking of That Thing You Do! I love that film because I think it captures a certain magic of the early 60s and how seemingly rock and roll could solve all of life's problems. Yes it's light and romantic, and that's what Hanks was going for.

But again, great job overall.

I really don't dislike that movie at all - just couldn't see what to really place below it based on the category.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Doc Ock, I thought that overall you did an excellent job. Obviously I disagree with your ranking of That Thing You Do! I love that film because I think it captures a certain magic of the early 60s and how seemingly rock and roll could solve all of life's problems. Yes it's light and romantic, and that's what Hanks was going for.

But again, great job overall.

I really don't dislike that movie at all - just couldn't see what to really place below it based on the category.

I figured after reading your post that you were the one who drafted it, but just comfirmed - frankly I'm actually a little surprised by that - my guess while judging was "The Last Waltz" was yours.

 

[BobbyLayne]

[SIZE=medium]4. Eddie and the Cruisers – 22 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]This film was a box office flop that gained new life under its run on cable TV which in turn saw the soundtrack album shoot up the charts on the strength of the single “On the Darkside”. The music turned out to not in fact be actually played by Eddie (Michael Pare) and the Cruisers( Tom Beringer and others) but rather by a 70s bar band that never reached the mainstream until then, John Cafferty and the Beaver Brown Band. The film which was based on the “Is he really dead or did he just wanted out of the mainstream?” legend of Jim Morrison is a fun movie that features some great rock and roll “performances.” [/SIZE]

Back in the early 80s I was in the military and banging a chick from BC, I saw JC & bbb at a club in south Boston. The movie came out a year or two later.

 

[Nick Vermeil]

I'm glad youi said something, AA, because I overlooked the multiple performances rankings totally. Thanks for the catch.

However, BobbyLayne did widen his lead a smidge

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Movie Draft Score through 20 22 of 30 Categories

Drafter - Total

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BobbyLayne 1st

Nick Vermeil (-23)

(I think)

Yeah it's starting to get out of hand. The back to back 5 pointers were a killer.

 

[BobbyLayne]

I'm glad youi said something, AA, because I overlooked the multiple performances rankings totally. Thanks for the catch.

However, BobbyLayne did widen his lead a smidge

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Movie Draft Score through 20 22 of 30 Categories

Drafter - Total

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BobbyLayne 1st

Nick Vermeil (-23)

(I think)

Yeah it's starting to get out of hand. The back to back 5 pointers were a killer.

Isn't TU third? NYC dominating this draft.

 

[timschochet]

Doc Ock, I thought that overall you did an excellent job. Obviously I disagree with your ranking of That Thing You Do! I love that film because I think it captures a certain magic of the early 60s and how seemingly rock and roll could solve all of life's problems. Yes it's light and romantic, and that's what Hanks was going for.

But again, great job overall.

I really don't dislike that movie at all - just couldn't see what to really place below it based on the category.

I figured after reading your post that you were the one who drafted it, but just comfirmed - frankly I'm actually a little surprised by that - my guess while judging was "The Last Waltz" was yours.

The Last Waltz is certainly one of my favorite all time films and would have been my pick. But I was sniped, unfortunately.

By the time I came to select the Hanks film, I wasn't close to competing in the category. Still, I thought it would do a leetle better than 1 point. I have no complaints though.

 

[charvik]

Spy movies - ranking:

I never did receive anything from TUp, and I also never saw any criteria for judging (didn't look a ton).

I tried to rank these based on how true they stayed to the topic, the quality of the movie and my own enjoyment. As always, I downgrade things I think are miscast, contain factual inaccuracies, or simplistic approach to the topic.

 

[charvik]

1pt Spies - XXX

29 - XXX - Spy Movie

Too bad Vin Diesel didn't stick w/ it - could have been a decent franchise.

Simplistic, crappy action for an audience that hates to think. Yeah, that sounds about right. This film was nominated for a Razzie Award for Most Flatulent Teen-Targeted Movie.

2pts Spies - Confessions of a Dangerous Mind
[no comments from drafter]

Bombed at the box office, 79% RT. I think this is dreck. Crappy writing, direction and horribly miscast.

3pts Spies - Cloak and Dagger

20.14 Cloak and Dagger- Spy Movie
I am really not a huge spy movie person, and this was the first movie I had thought of when this category had come up.

Not a terrible movie, but it did ask us to suspend belief that Gary Cooper was Oppenheimer on a covert mission into Europe... LOL.

4pts Spies - The Manchurian Candidate

20.21: The Manchurian Candidate (Film about Spies)


The 1962 original, with Frank Sinatra, Angela Lansbury, and Laurence Harvey.

I'm glad the drafter picked the original release, as I find the remake unwatchable. It has received a 98% RT rating, and is an intelligent political thriller. The screen play/novel borrows heavily from I, Claudius, and plagiarism is just boring to me. Even so, the book contains a lot more of the psychological issues haunting the main characters, which would make this movie more compelling to me. Sadly, Hollywood would never allow that type of content to be shown, especially not in 1962.

5pts Spies - 3 Days of the Condor
[no comments from drafter]

Boring political thriller, more than anything. Too much "luck" involved for me to find it believable, and worse, I have to believe RObert Redford is capable of anything.

 

[timschochet]

Gary Cooper? I think you may have the wrong Cloak and Dagger, Charvik. I'm betting the film selected was the one with the kid from ET and Dagny Coleman.

 

[charvik]

stupid board

 

[Nick Vermeil]

Gary Cooper? I think you may have the wrong Cloak and Dagger, Charvik. I'm betting the film selected was the one with the kid from ET and Dagny Coleman.

Would that be better or worse?

 

[charvik]

6pts Spies - Where Eagles Dare

29.03 - Where Eagles Dare - Spy Movie

Steven Spielberg voted this as his favorite war movie, mainly due to its sheer "boys own" factor of unreality. It is ridiculously over the top but also has a nice spy twist to it.

The title has its origins in William Shakespeare's 'Richard III': "The world is grown so bad, that wrens make prey where eagles dare not perch."

I grew up watching a lot of Alistair MacLean movies, including this one. I always viewed the movies as primarily war movies, and this is no exception. There's some spy involvement in supporting casts, but never as the main focus, as this is more of a hostage recovery mission. Even as a youth I was troubled with the historical inaccuracies in the movie.

While that doesn't bother most people, it's one of my pet peeves, and just a sign of sloppy work. (SS decorations, uniforms, aircraft ranges, and Luftwaffe capabilities being the biggest issues.) 88% at Rotten Tomatoes, but a 6.4/10 average rating.

 

[charvik]

7pts Spies - Munich

9.20 Munich - Spy Movie

Munich is a 2005 historical film about the Israeli government's secret retaliation against the Black September group after the Munich massacre during the 1972 Summer Olympics. The film was produced and directed by Steven Spielberg and written by Tony Kushner and Eric Roth.The film shows how a squad of assassins, led by former Mossad agent Avner (Eric Bana), track down and kill a list of Black September members thought to be responsible for the murders of eleven Israeli athletes. The second part of the film, which depicts the Israeli government's response, has been debated a great deal by film critics and newspaper columnists. Spielberg refers to the film's second part as "historical fiction", saying it is inspired by the actual Israeli operations, known as Operation Wrath of God.

I saw this film in the movies and haven't returned to it since but still vividly remember almost every detail. It was a little slow moving at times but I thought there were great performaces and it was a riveting story.

To be clear (after the Day of the Jackal debate, while this movie involves multiple assasinations it is a spy movie at heart. Form Wiki:

The Mossad is responsible for intelligence collection, covert operations, and counterterrorism, as well as bringing Jews to Israel from countries where official Aliyah agencies are forbidden, and protecting Jewish communities. Its director reports directly to the Prime Minister.

I can buy that this contains a shred of intelligence gathering, thereby qualifying it as a "spy" movie, but I don't really view it as a shining example of the genre. There's intelligence gathering for sure, but not really espionage. I don't view Zero Dark Thirty a spy movie either.

I found the movie boring at first viewing, and subsequent viewings didn't change my mind. There's no real dialog or debate on the issues at the time, no real ideology understanding, and again, lazy action. I do give Spielberg credit for introducing the Mossad assassins as terrorists, which didn't sit well with all, but he never continued the exploration on the topic. With his portrayal of Mossad, it feels like he started down the path of criticism, but lacked the testicular fortitude to continue to explore the mistakes made, especially the Lillehammer incident.

 

[charvik]

8pts Spies - Spy Game

Then, given my move of Casino Royale to gambling scene, I'll select a new film for the spy category that depicts spies working at various functions, in various eras, during the heights of the Cold War era and the present day. This Tony Scott film shows assets being selected, isolated, trained, ditched, and developed; it features bureaucratic CIA investigations, trade craft to circumvent said investigations, East German backstabbing, Vietnamese and Middle Eastern assassinations, West Bank sniper alleys, Chinese prison breaks, political disavowals, and Redford & Pitt.

27.22 Spy Game, spy movie

Thouroughly forgettable movie, with a miscast set of actors that doesn't make me believe in their characters. It has a 66% RT rating, and has received some critical acclaim, but the movie is just very forgettable, straight laced action. Sure it's a little clever at times, but where is the engagement? Still, it hits most of the criteria, which makes up some of the ranking, but it feels like they went through a laundry list of what needed to be included.

9pts Spies - Eye of the Needle

Eye of the Needle- spy movie Donald Surherland at his best as die Nadel

I remember seeing this in my teens and getting annoyed by it. It's supposed to be a great movie, and it has a 85% RT rating, but there are too many leaps of faith the viewer has to take. Getting Churchill and Hitler personally involved, the trail of bodies, the affair between die Nadel and Lucy. Intercepting radio messages and the tracking of the main character. Just very convenient and not compelling IMO.

10pts Spies - True Lies

#### it, my draft needs more movie goodness, and it definitely could use some more Arnold. 18.16: True Lies (spies)

This screenplay is a ####### joke, just read the synopsis on wikipedia, and I generally hate movies like this. I like this one though, cheesy as it is, and very predictable.

 

[timschochet]

Gary Cooper? I think you may have the wrong Cloak and Dagger, Charvik. I'm betting the film selected was the one with the kid from ET and Dagny Coleman.

Would that be better or worse?

Anything with Gary Cooper would have to be better than that piece of ####.

 

[charvik]

11pts Spies - Spies Like Us

29 Spies Like Us - Spy Movie

Chevy Chase and Dan Akroyd in a classic. LOVE THIS MOVIE.

I like this movie too... It's no cinematic masterpiece, but funny/charming.

12pts Spies - The Fourth Protocol

Makeup pick...

27.09 -- The Fourth Protocol, Spies.

I love this book, probably because I read it during my teens, and saw the movie when it came out. The movie features some great acting, and some not so great (*cough* Beatty *cough*). It has a low RT rating of 64%. I think the movie changed a couple of key elements, like the Labour Party tie in, that I felt made the book more compelling and entertaining, and the Philby character that was killed off in the film opening for no reason.

The movie has taken a couple of simplistic shortcuts, which makes it easier to follow, but also removes the interest for me. It becomes a very simple story line.

13pts Spies - The Day of the Jackal

Round 8

The Day of the Jackal - spy movie

Yet another movie I watched a long time ago and can't really remember the fine details, but I know I loved it. Amazon Video is going to get another $2.95 from me tomorrow.

Love this movie (and the novel as well), but I should point out that there's no spies involved in it.

Assassination thriller with political undertones. This doesn't quite tick the traditional check boxes for a spy thriller, but it has enough to rank it semi-well. The book is excellent, and one I have read more than once.

14pts Spies - No Way Out

28.20 No Way Out - Spy movie

Great ending that I won't give away. Roger Ebert gave the film 4 out of 4 stars, calling it "truly labyrinthine and ingenious."

Somewhat rediculous premise for the movie, and a little simplistic, this movie is well worth a view. It has a 92% rating, which I think is a little generous. It's a remake/adaptation of The Big Clock, and anybody having seen that movie or read the book is a little disappointed. Compared to the other movies drafted, this one falls a little short for me.

15pts Spies - Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy

[no comments from drafter]

If the drafter could've picked the 1979 BBC miniseries, this might have scored the top spot, but this is still a decent flick. The problem with converting any le Carré into a Hollywood movie is to fit the intrigue and depth into the preset production times. The movie lack the depth of the novel, or even the miniseries, and is scored lower because of it.

 

[charvik]

16pts Spies - Flame & Citron

[no comments from drafter]

Flammen & Citronen is a rare international (non-English) film in this draft, and a very good one in my opinion. It's helped by being a true story, although some liberties were taken, and Mads Mikkelsen's role. I also really like Stine Stengade as an actress.

17pts Spies - The Spy Who Came In From the Cold

[no comments from drafter]

Very enjoyable le Carré adaptation, and an excellent job by Burton. It falls in the rankings due to the quality of the movies above more than anything it itself did.

18pts Spies - Charade

[no comments from drafter]

I'm a big fan of Charles Lang's cinematography and this movie doesn't disappoint. Hepburn and Grant are superb in their roles as well. 92% RT rating. It's an entertaining movie, but more of a whodunnit than a spy thriller to me. Often mentioned as "the best Hitchcock movie that Hitchcock never made".

19pts Spies - 5 Fingers

21.18 - 5 Fingers - Spy movie

5 Fingers, known also as Five Fingers, is a 1952 American 20th Century Fox spy film directed by Joseph L. Mankiewicz and produced by Otto Lang. The screenplay by Michael Wilson and Mankiewicz was based on Operation Cicero (Original German: Der Fall Cicero) (1950) by L.C. Moyzisch. In the film, James Mason plays Ulysses Diello (Cicero), the character based on Bazna. The rest of the cast includes Danielle Darrieux, Michael Rennie, Herbert Berghof and Walter Hampden.

The film tells the true story of Albanian-born Elyesa Bazna, one of the most famous spies of World War II. He worked for the Nazis in 1943–44 while he was employed as valet to the British ambassador to Turkey, Sir Hughe Montgomery Knatchbull-Hugessen. He used the code name Cicero. He would photograph top-secret documents and turn the films over to Franz von Papen, the former German chancellor, at that time German ambassador in Ankara, via the intermediary Moyzisch, a commercial attaché at the embassy.

This one of my all-time favorite movies. James Mason is perfectly cast here. And it really happened. Awesome.

I agree with the drafter that this is a great movie, and it's well worth this position. I just feel the movies ranked above is better.

20pts Spies - 39 Steps

[no comments from drafter]

I am going to assume this is the 1935 Alfred Hitchcock version, that enjoys a 98% RT rating. This is a very compelling spy thriller in my opinion, and one of Hitchcock best. Listed as the 21st greatest British movies of all time.

 

[charvik]

21pts Spies - The Lives of Others

7.04 - The Lives of Others - Spy Film

Not really a fan of the action/adventure type spy films that seem to be dominating the genre of late, and since I'm not very familiar with the old black and white spy films, I wanted to make sure I got this.

In addition to its uniqueness from most films likely to be picked in this category due to its lack of gunfights or any physical altercations, it's also likely to be one of the few where the Secret Service spying is done on it's country's own citizens. Lot's of drama, intrigue, great performances, and filled with a true sense of espionage, it's just a brilliant spy film all around imo.

Also considered selecting the moving of the typewriter for the romantic gesture category, but thought it might be considered too much of a stretch.

I really like this movie, and it's topic. A nice portrayal of the environment in the DDR and the role of Stasi. Ulrich Mühe is great in his role, and I really enjoyed it. I think it's partially due to the attention to details, and success in portraying the time period.

22pts Spies - North by Northwest

[no comments from drafter]

This movie has some of the most iconic photography in film, and is a good to great spy-thriller. RT has this at 100% and it's thouroughly enjoyable, and it has inspired scenes, plots and imagery for plenty of movies to follow.

23pts Spies - The Conversation

7.14 The Conversation - Spy Movie

Another Academy Award winner. Lives of Others owes a lot to this one.

This might be a surprise ranking for some, but I thouroughly enjoy this Coppola masterpiece (IMO) and even more so the Caul character. Note to the drafter, it didn't win an academy award, it was nominated for 3 though.

24pts Spies - The Ipcress File

21.23 The Ipcress File, Spy FIlm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui5ec35Toc4

Based on a great Len Deighton novel, this is a fantastic spy movie starring Michael Caine in a perfect role for him

It won a BAFTA for Best British Film, was nominated for the Palme D'Or and made the BFI list of top 100 films of the 20th century

Brilliant novel, and equally great movie starring Michael Caine in one of his best roles IMO. Has a very well deserved 100% RT rating.

25pts Spies - La Femme Nikita

22.19 La Femme Nikita (1990) (Movies about Spies)

One of the best spy movies I've ever seen, and Luc Besson's first real foray into the spy genre. I assume everyone's seen this, but Anne Parrillaud stars as a junkie who is recruited by an offshoot of the DGSE, the French analogue to the CIA, and there are several incredible sequences, including Nikita's action against the "woman in brown" while on holiday and, of course, the sequence with Jean Reno as Victor the Cleaner.

Brilliant Luc Besson movie, and sadly has been the victim of some horrible Hollywood/TV remakes. Brilliant acting, haunting visuals and a great script makes this the blue print for modern spy/action movies. It was not as well received by critics with 56% at metacritic, but 88% at RT.

 

[charvik]

jwb 1pt Spies - XXX

BobbyLayne 2pts Spies - Confessions of a Dangerous Mind

tish155 3pts Spies - Cloak and Dagger

Doug B4pts Spies - The Manchurian Candidate

Joffer 5pts Spies - 3 Days of the Condor

Andy Dufresne 6pts Spies - Where Eagles Dare

Dr. Octopus 7pts Spies - Munich

Kumerica 8pts Spies - Spy Game

timschochet 9pts Spies - Eye of the Needle

KarmaPolice 10pts Spies - True Lies

Usual21 11pts Spies - Spies Like Us

higgins 12pts Spies - The Fourth Protocol

Mister CIA 13pts Spies - The Day of the Jackal

Val Rannous 14pts Spies - No Way Out

John Madden's Lunchbox 15pts Spies - Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy

Tiannamen Tank 16pts Spies - Flame & Citron

rikishiboy 17pts Spies - The Spy Who Came In From the Cold

krista4 18pts Spies - Charade

Mrs. Rannous 19pts Spies - 5 Fingers

hooter311 20pts Spies - 39 Steps

Time Kibitzer 21pts Spies - The Lives of Others

AcerFC 22pts Spies - North by Northwest

Nick Vermeil 23pts Spies - The Conversation

Tremendous Upside 24pts Spies - The Ipcress File

Aerial Assault 25pts Spies - La Femme Nikita

 

[charvik]

Gary Cooper? I think you may have the wrong Cloak and Dagger, Charvik. I'm betting the film selected was the one with the kid from ET and Dagny Coleman.

Would that be better or worse?

Anything with Gary Cooper would have to be better than that piece of ####.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloak_and_Dagger_(1946_film)

 

[Nick Vermeil]

23pts Spies - The Conversation

7.14 The Conversation - Spy Movie

Another Academy Award winner. Lives of Others owes a lot to this one.

This might be a surprise ranking for some, but I thouroughly enjoy this Coppola masterpiece (IMO) and even more so the Caul character. Note to the drafter, it didn't win an academy award, it was nominated for 3 though.

Huh. Sure enough. I could have sworn Murch won for editing. What a year for Coppola!

Nice rankings. It almost makes up for that crapfest of gambling rankings.

 

[charvik]

Is it actually the 1984 film that was drafted?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloak_and_Dagger_(1984_film)

If so, move that down to 1pt, and the two below get a bump of 1 place each.

 

[charvik]

Is it actually the 1984 film that was drafted?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloak_and_Dagger_(1984_film)

If so, move that down to 1pt, and the two below get a bump of 1 place each.

Full disclosure; I haven't seen that 1984 movie, but just reading the plot makes me want to gag.

 

[BobbyLayne]

BobbyLayne 2pts Spies - Confessions of a Dangerous Mind

Nick Vermeil 23pts Spies - The Conversation

Tremendous Upside 24pts Spies - The Ipcress File

right on cue

 

[charvik]

BobbyLayne 2pts Spies - Confessions of a Dangerous Mind

Nick Vermeil 23pts Spies - The Conversation

Tremendous Upside 24pts Spies - The Ipcress File

right on cue

(I honestly had no idea who had drafted what)

 

[Nick Vermeil]

BobbyLayne 2pts Spies - Confessions of a Dangerous Mind

Nick Vermeil 23pts Spies - The Conversation

Tremendous Upside 24pts Spies - The Ipcress File

right on cue

Doug B to the white courtesy phone...

 

[jwb]

ooof - 1 point for XXX. That might be my third 1

I dunno, I thought it was a somewhat fun "let's take the spy out of the tux" take (which they make fun of.)

heh, ok, maybe it is that bad.

Good rankings. The top of the list is great.

 

[timschochet]

Nice rankings Charvik. One question- I considered drafting The Falcoln and the Snowman with Sean Penn. Assuming you've seen it, would it have fared better than Eye of the Needle?

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

29 Gladiator- Fight Scene

will link later

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0DxK1ZEMcg

Before I can post the Fight Scenes, I need to know which fight scene in Gladiator Acer FC chose. He did link one, but the link is dead and there is no description

 

[charvik]

Nice rankings Charvik. One question- I considered drafting The Falcoln and the Snowman with Sean Penn. Assuming you've seen it, would it have fared better than Eye of the Needle?

I don't know, the story isn't all that compelling to me and the acting isn't bringing it up enough... Probably slightly lower

 

[joffer]

3 days of the condor just got beat by true lies? That really just happened?

 

[charvik]

3 days of the condor just got beat by true lies? That really just happened?

AND Spies are Us!

 

[joffer]

3 days of the condor just got beat by true lies? That really just happened?

AND Spies are Us!

Motion to have this ranking averaged with monkeys throwing feces

 

[BobbyLayne]

2nd

 

[Aerial Assault]

Spy Winner and Classroom Winner. Nice.

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

29 Gladiator- Fight Scene

will link later

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0DxK1ZEMcg

Before I can post the Fight Scenes, I need to know which fight scene in Gladiator Acer FC chose. He did link one, but the link is dead and there is no description

If AcerFC doesn't get back to be by tomorrow, I will just have to assume his scene and if he corrects me I can re-judge accordingly.

The other 24 scenes have been written up and ranked.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

[SIZE=12pt]Notable Omissions: Walk the Line, Quadrophenia and Yellow Submarine. (The Doors, The Rocky Horror Picture Show, School of Rock and The Blues Brothers found their way into other categories but may have scored well here also).[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt] [/SIZE]

Walk the Line went in the real person portrayal category, just so's you know it wasn't forgotten.

Nice rankings.

 

[krista4]

Oh, some judging?!?!

Nice job by Doc Oc. I always enjoy charvik's rankings, too.

Not sure why tim got such #### for putting some effort into doing what no one else stepped up to do, but it's cool that AA will try to watch all those instead.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Spy Winner and Classroom Winner. Nice.

First rule of TimDraft® is there are no winners.

Only survivors.

 

[omally]

29 Gladiator- Fight Scene

will link later

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0DxK1ZEMcg

Before I can post the Fight Scenes, I need to know which fight scene in Gladiator Acer FC chose. He did link one, but the link is dead and there is no description

That link isn't dead. I just clicked on it, and it played a Gladiator fight scene. *Incase you can't get the link to work for you, at the end of the fight scene Joaquin Phoenix ask Russell Crowe to remove his helmet, and tell him his name.

 

[Doug B]

That link isn't dead. I just clicked on it, and it played a Gladiator fight scene. *Incase you can't get the link to work for you, at the end of the fight scene Joaquin Phoenix ask Russell Crowe to remove his helmet, and tell him his name.

Link's not dead for me, either ... but remember that JML is in Australia. There are different rights and licensing issues in different countries, and that affects what people in various countries can see on YouTube.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

6pts Spies - Where Eagles Dare

29.03 - Where Eagles Dare - Spy Movie

Steven Spielberg voted this as his favorite war movie, mainly due to its sheer "boys own" factor of unreality. It is ridiculously over the top but also has a nice spy twist to it.

The title has its origins in William Shakespeare's 'Richard III': "The world is grown so bad, that wrens make prey where eagles dare not perch."

I grew up watching a lot of Alistair MacLean movies, including this one. I always viewed the movies as primarily war movies, and this is no exception. There's some spy involvement in supporting casts, but never as the main focus, as this is more of a hostage recovery mission. Even as a youth I was troubled with the historical inaccuracies in the movie.

While that doesn't bother most people, it's one of my pet peeves, and just a sign of sloppy work. (SS decorations, uniforms, aircraft ranges, and Luftwaffe capabilities being the biggest issues.) 88% at Rotten Tomatoes, but a 6.4/10 average rating.

Mmmm...that's not true. The main plot twist is all about spies and is one of the most effective twists I've seen in that I never saw it coming.

The action is over the top, but then it is in True Lies too so...

 

[charvik]

6pts Spies - Where Eagles Dare

29.03 - Where Eagles Dare - Spy Movie

Steven Spielberg voted this as his favorite war movie, mainly due to its sheer "boys own" factor of unreality. It is ridiculously over the top but also has a nice spy twist to it.

The title has its origins in William Shakespeare's 'Richard III': "The world is grown so bad, that wrens make prey where eagles dare not perch."

I grew up watching a lot of Alistair MacLean movies, including this one. I always viewed the movies as primarily war movies, and this is no exception. There's some spy involvement in supporting casts, but never as the main focus, as this is more of a hostage recovery mission. Even as a youth I was troubled with the historical inaccuracies in the movie.

While that doesn't bother most people, it's one of my pet peeves, and just a sign of sloppy work. (SS decorations, uniforms, aircraft ranges, and Luftwaffe capabilities being the biggest issues.) 88% at Rotten Tomatoes, but a 6.4/10 average rating.

Mmmm...that's not true. The main plot twist is all about spies and is one of the most effective twists I've seen in that I never saw it coming.The action is over the top, but then it is in True Lies too so...

I see how it can be viewed that way, sure.The briefing is done by MI6, and MI6 also has the agent Mary Elison in place (as well as Heidi in the village). Burton also reports back to MI6 via radio transmissions, but I view that as minor. This is a rescue mission more than a covert mission, is it not?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I see how it can be viewed that way, sure.

The briefing is done by MI6, and MI6 also has the agent Mary Elison in place (as well as Heidi in the village). Burton also reports back to MI6 via radio transmissions, but I view that as minor. This is a rescue mission more than a covert mission, is it not?

There's this whole thing:

Carnaby's interrogation, carried out by General Rosemeyer (Ferdy Mayne) and Colonel Kramer (Anton Diffring), is underway when the three NCOs arrive and reveal themselves to be German double agents. Smith and Schaffer intrude, but Smith then forces Schaffer to disarm and establishes himself as Major Johann Schmidt of the SD, the military intelligence branch of the SS. He exposes the identity of "General Carnaby" — that of Cartwright Jones, an American Corporal. He also claims that Thomas, Berkeley and Christiansen are British impostors. To test them, Smith/Schmidt proposes they write down the names of their fellow agents/conspirators in Britain, to be compared to the personal list in his pocket (having discreetly divulged the name of Germany's top agent in Britain to Kramer, who silently affirms it). After the three finish their lists, Smith reveals his list to Kramer, which is in fact blank. With the room now covered by Smith and the re-armed Schaffer, Smith then reveals the rescue operation was a cover for the real mission — to discover the identities of German spies in Britain.

 

[charvik]

I see how it can be viewed that way, sure.

The briefing is done by MI6, and MI6 also has the agent Mary Elison in place (as well as Heidi in the village). Burton also reports back to MI6 via radio transmissions, but I view that as minor. This is a rescue mission more than a covert mission, is it not?

There's this whole thing:

Carnaby's interrogation, carried out by General Rosemeyer (Ferdy Mayne) and Colonel Kramer (Anton Diffring), is underway when the three NCOs arrive and reveal themselves to be German double agents. Smith and Schaffer intrude, but Smith then forces Schaffer to disarm and establishes himself as Major Johann Schmidt of the SD, the military intelligence branch of the SS. He exposes the identity of "General Carnaby" — that of Cartwright Jones, an American Corporal. He also claims that Thomas, Berkeley and Christiansen are British impostors. To test them, Smith/Schmidt proposes they write down the names of their fellow agents/conspirators in Britain, to be compared to the personal list in his pocket (having discreetly divulged the name of Germany's top agent in Britain to Kramer, who silently affirms it). After the three finish their lists, Smith reveals his list to Kramer, which is in fact blank. With the room now covered by Smith and the re-armed Schaffer, Smith then reveals the rescue operation was a cover for the real mission — to discover the identities of German spies in Britain.

That doesn't really change my overall view of the movie, but I could be wrong. I didn't have time to re-watch all the movies since I picked up the category last week to help out, and based most of my judging on memories watching them. I also used plot synopsis' to jog my memory.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

That doesn't really change my overall view of the movie, but I could be wrong. I didn't have time to re-watch all the movies since I picked up the category last week to help out, and based most of my judging on memories watching them. I also used plot synopsis' to jog my memory.

It's cool. Thanks for taking the time to do it at all.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

[SIZE=12pt]Notable Omissions: Walk the Line, Quadrophenia and Yellow Submarine. (The Doors, The Rocky Horror Picture Show, School of Rock and The Blues Brothers found their way into other categories but may have scored well here also).[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt] [/SIZE]

Walk the Line went in the real person portrayal category, just so's you know it wasn't forgotten.

Nice rankings.

Thanks - I missed that one. It was a great (probably better) choice for that category as well then.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

6pts Spies - Where Eagles Dare

29.03 - Where Eagles Dare - Spy Movie

Steven Spielberg voted this as his favorite war movie, mainly due to its sheer "boys own" factor of unreality. It is ridiculously over the top but also has a nice spy twist to it.

The title has its origins in William Shakespeare's 'Richard III': "The world is grown so bad, that wrens make prey where eagles dare not perch."

I grew up watching a lot of Alistair MacLean movies, including this one. I always viewed the movies as primarily war movies, and this is no exception. There's some spy involvement in supporting casts, but never as the main focus, as this is more of a hostage recovery mission. Even as a youth I was troubled with the historical inaccuracies in the movie.

While that doesn't bother most people, it's one of my pet peeves, and just a sign of sloppy work. (SS decorations, uniforms, aircraft ranges, and Luftwaffe capabilities being the biggest issues.) 88% at Rotten Tomatoes, but a 6.4/10 average rating.

Mmmm...that's not true. The main plot twist is all about spies and is one of the most effective twists I've seen in that I never saw it coming.

The action is over the top, but then it is in True Lies too so...

Are you suggesting that chasing a motorcycle through the mall on horseback is "over the top"?