timschochet's thread- Mods, please move this thread to the Politics Subforum, thank you (3 Viewers)

[timschochet]

OK guys, I've been sucessfully chased back into my thread. That's what some of you wanted and so you have it.

I can't stand what I read anymore. I literally can't stand being in those threads and having to argue with people defending Trump, or the worst sort of racial profiling, or hatred and ignorance. It appalls me.

So I'm going to stay in here. I'll limit my commentary to this thread and if it annoys anyone, too ####### bad. Don't open it up if you don't like what I have to say. On the other hand if you truly want a detailed conversation with me about any of these issues (or anything else that's interesting) I would like nothing more.

I will continue to offer up my 100 favorite novels.

 

[timschochet]

Andy Dufresne- since you find my viewpoint astonishing, please offer up equivalents within the Democratic Party to Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in terms of fear, bigotry, and ignorance. Tia

 

[KarmaPolice]

I have been reading with interest, but don't know much about history, and don't read as much as I would like.

When you going to do your 100 movies list?

 

[timschochet]

In the San Bernardino thread I was accused of calling MOP a bigot. That is untrue. What I wrote is that he was sending behavior which I regard to be bigoted, lazy and ignorant: namely the profiling of Middle Eastern looking people for behavior that they would not profile others for. Those who engage in such profiling are not in most cases bigots, but they are engaging in bigoted behavior though they don't realize it. I don't think MOP is a bigot but I was trying to call this to his attention.

 

[B-Deep]

OK guys, I've been sucessfully chased back into my thread. That's what some of you wanted and so you have it.

I can't stand what I read anymore. I literally can't stand being in those threads and having to argue with people defending Trump, or the worst sort of racial profiling, or hatred and ignorance. It appalls me.

So I'm going to stay in here. I'll limit my commentary to this thread and if it annoys anyone, too ####### bad. Don't open it up if you don't like what I have to say. On the other hand if you truly want a detailed conversation with me about any of these issues (or anything else that's interesting) I would like nothing more.

I will continue to offer up my 100 favorite novels.

post wherever you want

it's a free forum, mostly. Uconn died so you'd have the right to post wherever you wanted, as long as you don't post doodles of larryboy giving oral to a dragon

 

[B-Deep]

I have been reading with interest, but don't know much about history, and don't read as much as I would like.

When you going to do your 100 movies list?

do you know much biology?

 

[timschochet]

I have been reading with interest, but don't know much about history, and don't read as much as I would like.

When you going to do your 100 movies list?

Havent thought about that. Maybe after the novels.

 

[McGarnicle]

OK guys, I've been sucessfully chased back into my thread. That's what some of you wanted and so you have it.

I can't stand what I read anymore. I literally can't stand being in those threads and having to argue with people defending Trump, or the worst sort of racial profiling, or hatred and ignorance. It appalls me.

So I'm going to stay in here. I'll limit my commentary to this thread and if it annoys anyone, too ####### bad. Don't open it up if you don't like what I have to say. On the other hand if you truly want a detailed conversation with me about any of these issues (or anything else that's interesting) I would like nothing more.

I will continue to offer up my 100 favorite novels.

Tim, I give you a lot of credit. Trolls bother me so much I say horrible things that get me a timeout. And they're not even targeting me, just being dumb. People come after you possibly more than anyone here and you never cross that line.

 

[jwb]

I have been reading with interest, but don't know much about history, and don't read as much as I would like.

When you going to do your 100 movies list?

Havent thought about that. Maybe after the novels.

Surprising. With all the movie-type drafts, I figured this would be a natural.

 

[timschochet]

OK guys, I've been sucessfully chased back into my thread. That's what some of you wanted and so you have it.

I can't stand what I read anymore. I literally can't stand being in those threads and having to argue with people defending Trump, or the worst sort of racial profiling, or hatred and ignorance. It appalls me.

So I'm going to stay in here. I'll limit my commentary to this thread and if it annoys anyone, too ####### bad. Don't open it up if you don't like what I have to say. On the other hand if you truly want a detailed conversation with me about any of these issues (or anything else that's interesting) I would like nothing more.

I will continue to offer up my 100 favorite novels.

post wherever you wantit's a free forum, mostly. Uconn died so you'd have the right to post wherever you wanted, as long as you don't post doodles of larryboy giving oral to a dragon

lol. I'm sticking to here for now. I want to have discussions with people who want to have discussions with me. I'm sick of the nonsense.

 

[timschochet]

OK guys, I've been sucessfully chased back into my thread. That's what some of you wanted and so you have it.

I can't stand what I read anymore. I literally can't stand being in those threads and having to argue with people defending Trump, or the worst sort of racial profiling, or hatred and ignorance. It appalls me.

So I'm going to stay in here. I'll limit my commentary to this thread and if it annoys anyone, too ####### bad. Don't open it up if you don't like what I have to say. On the other hand if you truly want a detailed conversation with me about any of these issues (or anything else that's interesting) I would like nothing more.

I will continue to offer up my 100 favorite novels.

Tim, I give you a lot of credit. Trolls bother me so much I say horrible things that get me a timeout. And they're not even targeting me, just being dumb. People come after you possibly more than anyone here and you never cross that line.

Thanks. I enjoy your posts more and more. Hope you'll stick around.

 

[timschochet]

I have been reading with interest, but don't know much about history, and don't read as much as I would like.

When you going to do your 100 movies list?

Havent thought about that. Maybe after the novels.

Surprising. With all the movie-type drafts, I figured this would be a natural.

I used to see tons of movies. I loved serious dramas. But when my first daughter was born in 2000, I stopped having any time to go see them, so any list I could offer would be seriously lacking the 21st century. Around the same time television got a ton better- as good as any movie. TV dramas have now replaced films as my favorite visual art.

 

[timschochet]

Earlier today I got trashed for suggesting that, per Donald Trump's statement about killing the families of terrorists, we should do away with the 6 month old baby of the couple that died yesterday.

I was not expecting the anger that resulted from that comment, which seemed like a logical progression of Trump's thoughts. I've been thinking about it ever since. I guess that people don't like to be faced with the harsh reality of such hateful rhetoric. Trump sounds tough and strong to them- from a distance.

 

[McGarnicle]

OK guys, I've been sucessfully chased back into my thread. That's what some of you wanted and so you have it.

I can't stand what I read anymore. I literally can't stand being in those threads and having to argue with people defending Trump, or the worst sort of racial profiling, or hatred and ignorance. It appalls me.

So I'm going to stay in here. I'll limit my commentary to this thread and if it annoys anyone, too ####### bad. Don't open it up if you don't like what I have to say. On the other hand if you truly want a detailed conversation with me about any of these issues (or anything else that's interesting) I would like nothing more.

I will continue to offer up my 100 favorite novels.

Tim, I give you a lot of credit. Trolls bother me so much I say horrible things that get me a timeout. And they're not even targeting me, just being dumb. People come after you possibly more than anyone here and you never cross that line.

Thanks. I enjoy your posts more and more. Hope you'll stick around.

Maybe you'll convince me to read a book.

 

[McGarnicle]

Any erotic thrillers with Asian or Latina protagonists on the list?

 

[MikeIke]

In the San Bernardino thread I was accused of calling MOP a bigot. That is untrue. What I wrote is that he was sending behavior which I regard to be bigoted, lazy and ignorant: namely the profiling of Middle Eastern looking people for behavior that they would not profile others for. Those who engage in such profiling are not in most cases bigots, but they are engaging in bigoted behavior though they don't realize it. I don't think MOP is a bigot but I was trying to call this to his attention.

Who's to say that he wouldn't have reported them regardless of their skin color? They were two men in a poolside bar, one wearing/carrying a satchel and one wearing a backpack, meeting each other in the middle of a dance floor. In this day and age it's suspicious.

Adding their skin color and choice of beard style makes it even more so, IMO, given what we know about the current crop of terrorists in our world. Doesn't mean it's bigoted, it means it's prudent.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

In the year I left all you managed to fill up was a 50 post per page 183 page thread with your name on it free and clear of the other 10,000 threads you likely filled up with your opinions as well. How do you find the time to do all the things you post about? You must wear out a cell device in weeks trying to post on the go as much as you do.

You did insinuate I was a bigot just as I posted. You even posted I was engaging in bigotry behavior but refuse to say you called me a bigot. Whatever works for you but I think you're making a mistake and hurting your credibility not mine. I don't have any so...haha.

 

[timschochet]

In the San Bernardino thread I was accused of calling MOP a bigot. That is untrue. What I wrote is that he was sending behavior which I regard to be bigoted, lazy and ignorant: namely the profiling of Middle Eastern looking people for behavior that they would not profile others for. Those who engage in such profiling are not in most cases bigots, but they are engaging in bigoted behavior though they don't realize it. I don't think MOP is a bigot but I was trying to call this to his attention.

Who's to say that he wouldn't have reported them regardless of their skin color? They were two men in a poolside bar, one wearing/carrying a satchel and one wearing a backpack, meeting each other in the middle of a dance floor. In this day and age it's suspicious.Adding their skin color and choice of beard style makes it even more so, IMO, given what we know about the current crop of terrorists in our world. Doesn't mean it's bigoted, it means it's prudent.

In that thread I tried to define it. If MOP had seen two white dudes doing the exact same thing but did not report it, then IMO by reporting it in this case he is engaging in bigoted behavior.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Andy Dufresne- since you find my viewpoint astonishing, please offer up equivalents within the Democratic Party to Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in terms of fear, bigotry, and ignorance. Tia

Here are a few small examples, certain folks in the GOP are as bad if not worse but don't kid yourself that fear, bigotry and ignorance are partisan items.

Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Democratic National Committee chair

“Scott Walker has given women the back of his hand. I know that is stark. That is direct. But that is reality. What Republican tea party extremists like Scott Walker are doing is they are grabbing us by the hair and pulling us back. It is not going to happen on our watch.”

UN Ambassador Samantha Power:

“Daniel Pearl’s story is reminder that individual accountability & reconciliation are required to break cycles of violence."

Gubernatorial nominee Wendy Davis (Texas):

Approved a disparaging ad that featured images of a wheelchair like the one her opponent Greg Abbott has had to use for years since a freak accident.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi:

“Civilization as we know it would be in jeopardy if Republicans win the Senate.”

Representative Maxine Waters:

“We do not have a crisis at Freddie Mac, and particularly Fannie Mae, under the outstanding leadership of Frank Raines.”

"If sequestration takes place, that’s going to be a great setback. We don’t need to be having something like sequestration that’s going to cause these job losses — over 170 million jobs that could be lost"

Future President Hillary Clinton:

"My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don't understand it"

 

[timschochet]

In the year I left all you managed to fill up was a 50 post per page 183 page thread with your name on it free and clear of the other 10,000 threads you likely filled up with your opinions as well. How do you find the time to do all the things you post about? You must wear out a cell device in weeks trying to post on the go as much as you do.

You did insinuate I was a bigot just as I posted. You even posted I was engaging in bigotry behavior but refuse to say you called me a bigot. Whatever works for you but I think you're making a mistake and hurting your credibility not mine. I don't have any so...haha.

Never once did I insinuate that you are a bigot. Bigots do what they do deliberately. I think you are defending bigoted behavior and I explained why. But I don't think it's deliberate; I think it's an error in logic on your part. You're not seeing the big picture of how much damage profiling can do to innocent people. I hope you consider this and change your mind. As for my credibility- it seems to be okay with those around here who I enjoy conversing with and vice-versa. As for the rest I'm afraid I don't really care.

 

[ScottNorwood]

98. Snowshoe Thompson

Snowshoe Thompson (April 30, 1827 – May 15, 1876) was a nickname for the Norwegian-American John Albert Thompson, an early resident of the Sierra Nevada of Nevada and California. He is considered the father of California skiing.[1]

Between 1856 and 1876, he delivered mail between Placerville, California and Genoa, Nevada and later Virginia City, Nevada. Despite his nickname, he did not make use of the snowshoes that are native to North America, but rather would travel with what the local people applied that term to: ten-foot (over 3-meter) skis, and a single sturdy pole generally held in both hands at once. In other words - it was a crappy nickname.

Further reading here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowshoe_Thompson

 

[timschochet]

Andy Dufresne- since you find my viewpoint astonishing, please offer up equivalents within the Democratic Party to Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in terms of fear, bigotry, and ignorance. Tia

Here are a few small examples, certain folks in the GOP are as bad if not worse but don't kid yourself that fear, bigotry and ignorance are partisan items.

Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Democratic National Committee chair

Scott Walker has given women the back of his hand. I know that is stark. That is direct. But that is reality. What Republican tea party extremists like Scott Walker are doing is they are grabbing us by the hair and pulling us back. It is not going to happen on our watch.

UN Ambassador Samantha Power:

Daniel Pearls story is reminder that individual accountability & reconciliation are required to break cycles of violence."

Gubernatorial nominee Wendy Davis (Texas):

Approved a disparaging ad that featured images of a wheelchair like the one her opponent Greg Abbott has had to use for years since a freak accident.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi:

Civilization as we know it would be in jeopardy if Republicans win the Senate.

Representative Maxine Waters:

We do not have a crisis at Freddie Mac, and particularly Fannie Mae, under the outstanding leadership of Frank Raines.

"If sequestration takes place, thats going to be a great setback. We dont need to be having something like sequestration thats going to cause these job losses over 170 million jobs that could be lost"

Future President Hillary Clinton:

"My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don't understand it"

Some good examples there. Some bad ones. None rise even close to the level of Trump and Cruz, who are attacking whole groups of people (mainly Muslims and Mexicans). So on the whole not a good comparison IMO.

 

[timschochet]

Earlier today I got trashed for suggesting that, per Donald Trump's statement about killing the families of terrorists, we should do away with the 6 month old baby of the couple that died yesterday.

I was not expecting the anger that resulted from that comment, which seemed like a logical progression of Trump's thoughts. I've been thinking about it ever since. I guess that people don't like to be faced with the harsh reality of such hateful rhetoric. Trump sounds tough and strong to them- from a distance.

Yeah tim, that was me, and please know that I don't dislike you. Did you get the point at all that it should have been posted in the Trump thread? Or that Trump wasn't talking about killing the child, in the US, of the San Bernardino killers when asked about fighting ISIS? I find it very hard to believe that you didn't get that point. I also admit that you specifically mentioning THAT child is what I'm having an issue with. That kid is going to have a tough life.

It looked like trolling, or at best not being aware of the concept of "right place right time". What Trump said was very ignorant on it's own.

Yipee. My first post in your thread.

I thought it was the perfect time because a day after he said it, suddenly we have a real life child that people actually know about, not a vague unnamed terrorist family somewhere in the desert. Anyhow, your response was not the worst and you explained your reasoning which I can respect. We'll agree to disagree on this one.

 

[timschochet]

Post wherever you want, Tim. MoP may not be a bigot but he's 100% laroosh. Don't let the larooshes win.

Do you mean Lyndon LaRouche?

 

[timschochet]

98. Snowshoe Thompson

Snowshoe Thompson (April 30, 1827 May 15, 1876) was a nickname for the Norwegian-American John Albert Thompson, an early resident of the Sierra Nevada of Nevada and California. He is considered the father of California skiing.[1]

Between 1856 and 1876, he delivered mail between Placerville, California and Genoa, Nevada and later Virginia City, Nevada. Despite his nickname, he did not make use of the snowshoes that are native to North America, but rather would travel with what the local people applied that term to: ten-foot (over 3-meter) skis, and a single sturdy pole generally held in both hands at once. In other words - it was a crappy nickname.

Further reading here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowshoe_Thompson

Ski people annoy me. Even more than golfers.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Andy Dufresne- since you find my viewpoint astonishing, please offer up equivalents within the Democratic Party to Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in terms of fear, bigotry, and ignorance. Tia

Here are a few small examples, certain folks in the GOP are as bad if not worse but don't kid yourself that fear, bigotry and ignorance are partisan items.

Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Democratic National Committee chair

Scott Walker has given women the back of his hand. I know that is stark. That is direct. But that is reality. What Republican tea party extremists like Scott Walker are doing is they are grabbing us by the hair and pulling us back. It is not going to happen on our watch.

UN Ambassador Samantha Power:

Daniel Pearls story is reminder that individual accountability & reconciliation are required to break cycles of violence."

Gubernatorial nominee Wendy Davis (Texas):

Approved a disparaging ad that featured images of a wheelchair like the one her opponent Greg Abbott has had to use for years since a freak accident.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi:

Civilization as we know it would be in jeopardy if Republicans win the Senate.

Representative Maxine Waters:

We do not have a crisis at Freddie Mac, and particularly Fannie Mae, under the outstanding leadership of Frank Raines.

"If sequestration takes place, thats going to be a great setback. We dont need to be having something like sequestration thats going to cause these job losses over 170 million jobs that could be lost"

Future President Hillary Clinton:

"My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don't understand it"

Some good examples there. Some bad ones. None rise even close to the level of Trump and Cruz, who are attacking whole groups of people (mainly Muslims and Mexicans). So on the whole not a good comparison IMO.

Please let me know what Cruz or Trump have said that rise above the level of ignorance of Maxine Waters speaking about Freddie Mac & Fannie Mae.

Please let me know what Cruz or Trump have said that rise above the level of bigotry of Debbie Wasserman equating Scott Walker to a woman beater.

Please let me know what Cruz or Trump have said that rise above the level of fear of Nancy Pelosi calling the end of civilization as we know it if the Republicans win the Senate.

I will give you the argument if you can find a GOP Presidential candidate alluding to one of their opponents potentially getting assassinated. Again, to be clear I'm in no way defending the kooks on the GOP side here but you have to have blinders on to not acknowledge this happens in both parties.

 

[RCon]

OK guys, I've been sucessfully chased back into my thread. That's what some of you wanted and so you have it.

I can't stand what I read anymore. I literally can't stand being in those threads and having to argue with people defending Trump, or the worst sort of racial profiling, or hatred and ignorance. It appalls me.

So I'm going to stay in here. I'll limit my commentary to this thread and if it annoys anyone, too ####### bad. Don't open it up if you don't like what I have to say. On the other hand if you truly want a detailed conversation with me about any of these issues (or anything else that's interesting) I would like nothing more.

I will continue to offer up my 100 favorite novels.

Two pieces of advice...

1. Don't let the haters/trolls get to you. You can post in any damn thread you want to.

2. If the issue is more that you just don't want to read posts from the GrandpaRox and Jim11 type posters, I would highly recommend the ignore feature. It really makes life simpler to skip over those posts.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Andy Dufresne- since you find my viewpoint astonishing, please offer up equivalents within the Democratic Party to Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in terms of fear, bigotry, and ignorance. Tia

Here are a few small examples, certain folks in the GOP are as bad if not worse but don't kid yourself that fear, bigotry and ignorance are partisan items.

Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Democratic National Committee chair

Scott Walker has given women the back of his hand. I know that is stark. That is direct. But that is reality. What Republican tea party extremists like Scott Walker are doing is they are grabbing us by the hair and pulling us back. It is not going to happen on our watch.

UN Ambassador Samantha Power:

Daniel Pearls story is reminder that individual accountability & reconciliation are required to break cycles of violence."

Gubernatorial nominee Wendy Davis (Texas):

Approved a disparaging ad that featured images of a wheelchair like the one her opponent Greg Abbott has had to use for years since a freak accident.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi:

Civilization as we know it would be in jeopardy if Republicans win the Senate.

Representative Maxine Waters:

We do not have a crisis at Freddie Mac, and particularly Fannie Mae, under the outstanding leadership of Frank Raines.

"If sequestration takes place, thats going to be a great setback. We dont need to be having something like sequestration thats going to cause these job losses over 170 million jobs that could be lost"

Future President Hillary Clinton:

"My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don't understand it"

Some good examples there. Some bad ones. None rise even close to the level of Trump and Cruz, who are attacking whole groups of people (mainly Muslims and Mexicans). So on the whole not a good comparison IMO.

Please let me know what Cruz or Trump have said that rise above the level of ignorance of Maxine Waters speaking about Freddie Mac & Fannie Mae.

Please let me know what Cruz or Trump have said that rise above the level of bigotry of Debbie Wasserman equating Scott Walker to a woman beater.

Please let me know what Cruz or Trump have said that rise above the level of fear of Nancy Pelosi calling the end of civilization as we know it if the Republicans win the Senate.

I will give you the argument if you can find a GOP Presidential candidate alluding to one of their opponents potentially getting assassinated. Again, to be clear I'm in no way defending the kooks on the GOP side here but you have to have blinders on to not acknowledge this happens in both parties.

You are safe with this assumption.

 

[RCon]

Andy Dufresne- since you find my viewpoint astonishing, please offer up equivalents within the Democratic Party to Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in terms of fear, bigotry, and ignorance. Tia

POTUS candidates only, or any prominent Democrat?

 

[timschochet]

94. 24 Hours

Greg Iles

2000, 448 pages

Suspense

Greg Iles is a terrific thriller writer. Several of his books involve the Cage family, featuring a lawyer in Mississippi, and if you want to read those you need to start with The Quiet Game. But 24 Hours is a fine stand-alone thriller. A prominent doctor gets his young daughter kidnapped, and the doctor has 24 hours to come up with the money to pay off the kidnapper. But the doctor learns that the kidnapper has no intention of releasing his daughter; he hates the doctor and means to kill her anyhow. With the clock winding down, the hero has to find a way out...

I'm giving as little away as possible because this is the type of great suspense novel in which there are plenty of surprises and nothing is as it seems. In general my favorite kind of thriller are the ones in which the hero is on some kind of clock, as it magnifies the suspense. Not a serious novel like many on this list, but a fun, tense, great read that will keep you up all night.

Next up: The first of several grand historical epics on this list...

 

[Ministry of Pain]

In the year I left all you managed to fill up was a 50 post per page 183 page thread with your name on it free and clear of the other 10,000 threads you likely filled up with your opinions as well. How do you find the time to do all the things you post about? You must wear out a cell device in weeks trying to post on the go as much as you do.

You did insinuate I was a bigot just as I posted. You even posted I was engaging in bigotry behavior but refuse to say you called me a bigot. Whatever works for you but I think you're making a mistake and hurting your credibility not mine. I don't have any so...haha.

Never once did I insinuate that you are a bigot. Bigots do what they do deliberately. I think you are defending bigoted behavior and I explained why. But I don't think it's deliberate; I think it's an error in logic on your part. You're not seeing the big picture of how much damage profiling can do to innocent people. I hope you consider this and change your mind.As for my credibility- it seems to be okay with those around here who I enjoy conversing with and vice-versa. As for the rest I'm afraid I don't really care.

Media does this all the time. Trump engaged in such and such activity..."We never called Trump an actual bleephole, we just said he was partaking in bleephole activites"

I might remind you and the listening audience at home that I teach Title I and 85% of my students are African American, 97% of our students are on free lunch. I am IMO knee deep and on the front lines of a lot of these topics in the media you all like to discuss and fire each other up over. I'm not going to ruin this thread and turn it into a war of words but you called me a bigot or insinuated it by injecting the word into the post, own up to it. You could be a man and apologize and we could move on. But I won't hold my breath and I forgive you anyways Tim because I've learned over time it's the right thing to do for my own well being.

Cheers

 

[AAABatteries]

OK guys, I've been sucessfully chased back into my thread. That's what some of you wanted and so you have it.

I can't stand what I read anymore. I literally can't stand being in those threads and having to argue with people defending Trump, or the worst sort of racial profiling, or hatred and ignorance. It appalls me.

So I'm going to stay in here. I'll limit my commentary to this thread and if it annoys anyone, too ####### bad. Don't open it up if you don't like what I have to say. On the other hand if you truly want a detailed conversation with me about any of these issues (or anything else that's interesting) I would like nothing more.

I will continue to offer up my 100 favorite novels.

I think you know I like you - you're a good guy with good intentions (and way too much time on his hands). Having said that, if you can't see how that post at that time could have set people off then maybe it is best if you stay here. For most of us - it had nothing to do with slamming/defending Trump but everything to do with taking a proverbial dump on the thread.

FTR, I've always thought this thread was a bad idea if you were only doing it to avoid discussions in other threads but you set yourself to be pushed back here by creating it in the first place.

 

[Willie Neslon]

Good lord with the drama

 

[RCon]

Earlier today I got trashed for suggesting that, per Donald Trump's statement about killing the families of terrorists, we should do away with the 6 month old baby of the couple that died yesterday.

I was not expecting the anger that resulted from that comment, which seemed like a logical progression of Trump's thoughts. I've been thinking about it ever since. I guess that people don't like to be faced with the harsh reality of such hateful rhetoric. Trump sounds tough and strong to them- from a distance.

Not criticizing, but I'm not understanding how one follows from the other?

Isn't Trump's proposal (I use the word loosely) to target the families of terrorists designed as a deterrent via intimidation (read: mafia style intimidation). I'm not sure how you get to the same conclusion here.

 

[Don Quixote]

I was just here because I enjoy reading lists...

 

[psychobillies]

Andy Dufresne- since you find my viewpoint astonishing, please offer up equivalents within the Democratic Party to Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in terms of fear, bigotry, and ignorance. Tia

Here are a few small examples, certain folks in the GOP are as bad if not worse but don't kid yourself that fear, bigotry and ignorance are partisan items.

Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Democratic National Committee chair

Scott Walker has given women the back of his hand. I know that is stark. That is direct. But that is reality. What Republican tea party extremists like Scott Walker are doing is they are grabbing us by the hair and pulling us back. It is not going to happen on our watch.

UN Ambassador Samantha Power:

Daniel Pearls story is reminder that individual accountability & reconciliation are required to break cycles of violence."

Gubernatorial nominee Wendy Davis (Texas):

Approved a disparaging ad that featured images of a wheelchair like the one her opponent Greg Abbott has had to use for years since a freak accident.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi:

Civilization as we know it would be in jeopardy if Republicans win the Senate.

Representative Maxine Waters:

We do not have a crisis at Freddie Mac, and particularly Fannie Mae, under the outstanding leadership of Frank Raines.

"If sequestration takes place, thats going to be a great setback. We dont need to be having something like sequestration thats going to cause these job losses over 170 million jobs that could be lost"

Future President Hillary Clinton:

"My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don't understand it"

Some good examples there. Some bad ones. None rise even close to the level of Trump and Cruz, who are attacking whole groups of people (mainly Muslims and Mexicans). So on the whole not a good comparison IMO.

Please let me know what Cruz or Trump have said that rise above the level of ignorance of Maxine Waters speaking about Freddie Mac & Fannie Mae.

Please let me know what Cruz or Trump have said that rise above the level of bigotry of Debbie Wasserman equating Scott Walker to a woman beater.

Please let me know what Cruz or Trump have said that rise above the level of fear of Nancy Pelosi calling the end of civilization as we know it if the Republicans win the Senate.

I will give you the argument if you can find a GOP Presidential candidate alluding to one of their opponents potentially getting assassinated. Again, to be clear I'm in no way defending the kooks on the GOP side here but you have to have blinders on to not acknowledge this happens in both parties.

I don't get it. Do people really not know that the D's inject racism into every single solitary issue and debate? I really can't think of an exception. All politicians do it, because it works. Same reason all the news outlets use it, because it sells.

 

[timschochet]

Andy Dufresne- since you find my viewpoint astonishing, please offer up equivalents within the Democratic Party to Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in terms of fear, bigotry, and ignorance. Tia

Here are a few small examples, certain folks in the GOP are as bad if not worse but don't kid yourself that fear, bigotry and ignorance are partisan items.

Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Democratic National Committee chair

Scott Walker has given women the back of his hand. I know that is stark. That is direct. But that is reality. What Republican tea party extremists like Scott Walker are doing is they are grabbing us by the hair and pulling us back. It is not going to happen on our watch.

UN Ambassador Samantha Power:

Daniel Pearls story is reminder that individual accountability & reconciliation are required to break cycles of violence."

Gubernatorial nominee Wendy Davis (Texas):

Approved a disparaging ad that featured images of a wheelchair like the one her opponent Greg Abbott has had to use for years since a freak accident.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi:

Civilization as we know it would be in jeopardy if Republicans win the Senate.

Representative Maxine Waters:

We do not have a crisis at Freddie Mac, and particularly Fannie Mae, under the outstanding leadership of Frank Raines.

"If sequestration takes place, thats going to be a great setback. We dont need to be having something like sequestration thats going to cause these job losses over 170 million jobs that could be lost"

Future President Hillary Clinton:

"My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don't understand it"

Some good examples there. Some bad ones. None rise even close to the level of Trump and Cruz, who are attacking whole groups of people (mainly Muslims and Mexicans). So on the whole not a good comparison IMO.

Please let me know what Cruz or Trump have said that rise above the level of ignorance of Maxine Waters speaking about Freddie Mac & Fannie Mae.

Please let me know what Cruz or Trump have said that rise above the level of bigotry of Debbie Wasserman equating Scott Walker to a woman beater.

Please let me know what Cruz or Trump have said that rise above the level of fear of Nancy Pelosi calling the end of civilization as we know it if the Republicans win the Senate.

I will give you the argument if you can find a GOP Presidential candidate alluding to one of their opponents potentially getting assassinated. Again, to be clear I'm in no way defending the kooks on the GOP side here but you have to have blinders on to not acknowledge this happens in both parties.

I don't think you understood the distinction that I was making. Perhaps that is my fault, so let me start over.

I never meant to state or imply that Democratic politicians don't make foolish, ignorant, bigoted, or stupid comments. I'm certainly not going to defend Maxine Waters, who I have always detested with the heat of 1,000 suns. Nor am I going to defend Hillary's statement about RFK, which I have previously acknowledged is completely inexcusable and by far the worst of her career.

But when I challenged Andy to come up with the equivalents of Trump and Cruz, I was not referring to comments. I was referring to the candidates themselves. I can't think of a major candidate in my lifetime coming from the Democratic party that are the equivalent of Donald Trump or Ted Cruz. Al Sharpton ran for President, but his campaign went nowhere.

If Maxine Waters were to run for President, spew a bunch of her hateful bigotry, and suddenly she led in the polls, beating out Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders, THEN we'd have the equal of what is going on right now in the Republican party. But we don't, and the Democrats never have.

FTR, I've never in my life been a Democrat. This will be the first election ever that I will be voting for the Democrat. The times in my life that I've been associated with a major party, I've been a Republican. (Other times I've been a Libertarian or independent.) I criticize the Republican party because I'm ashamed of it. I'm ashamed of what it's become.

 

[timschochet]

In the year I left all you managed to fill up was a 50 post per page 183 page thread with your name on it free and clear of the other 10,000 threads you likely filled up with your opinions as well. How do you find the time to do all the things you post about? You must wear out a cell device in weeks trying to post on the go as much as you do.

You did insinuate I was a bigot just as I posted. You even posted I was engaging in bigotry behavior but refuse to say you called me a bigot. Whatever works for you but I think you're making a mistake and hurting your credibility not mine. I don't have any so...haha.

Never once did I insinuate that you are a bigot. Bigots do what they do deliberately. I think you are defending bigoted behavior and I explained why. But I don't think it's deliberate; I think it's an error in logic on your part. You're not seeing the big picture of how much damage profiling can do to innocent people. I hope you consider this and change your mind.As for my credibility- it seems to be okay with those around here who I enjoy conversing with and vice-versa. As for the rest I'm afraid I don't really care.

Media does this all the time. Trump engaged in such and such activity..."We never called Trump an actual bleephole, we just said he was partaking in bleephole activites"

I might remind you and the listening audience at home that I teach Title I and 85% of my students are African American, 97% of our students are on free lunch. I am IMO knee deep and on the front lines of a lot of these topics in the media you all like to discuss and fire each other up over. I'm not going to ruin this thread and turn it into a war of words but you called me a bigot or insinuated it by injecting the word into the post, own up to it. You could be a man and apologize and we could move on. But I won't hold my breath and I forgive you anyways Tim because I've learned over time it's the right thing to do for my own well being.

Cheers

Well first off, I absolutely do believe that Donald Trump is a bigot. It is deliberate on his part. He's an ####### as well. I'm not ashamed to say it. If I thought you were a bigot, I would tell you so, and I wouldn't be ashamed to say that either. I have called out bigots in this forum. There aren't many of them. GrandpaRox is one. Eminence is another. Bigots deserve to be called out, and no shilly-shallying around.

I'm glad that you teach what you do. I think you contribute to our society by doing so. I didn't call you a bigot, so I don't apologize for doing so. Therefore, I regret to say that I can't accept your forgiveness.

 

[roadkill1292]

In the year I left all you managed to fill up was a 50 post per page 183 page thread with your name on it free and clear of the other 10,000 threads you likely filled up with your opinions as well. How do you find the time to do all the things you post about? You must wear out a cell device in weeks trying to post on the go as much as you do.

You did insinuate I was a bigot just as I posted. You even posted I was engaging in bigotry behavior but refuse to say you called me a bigot. Whatever works for you but I think you're making a mistake and hurting your credibility not mine. I don't have any so...haha.

You're borderline institutional.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

In the year I left all you managed to fill up was a 50 post per page 183 page thread with your name on it free and clear of the other 10,000 threads you likely filled up with your opinions as well. How do you find the time to do all the things you post about? You must wear out a cell device in weeks trying to post on the go as much as you do.

You did insinuate I was a bigot just as I posted. You even posted I was engaging in bigotry behavior but refuse to say you called me a bigot. Whatever works for you but I think you're making a mistake and hurting your credibility not mine. I don't have any so...haha.

You're borderline institutional.

And they allow me to teach, it's scary.

 

[timschochet]

Earlier today I got trashed for suggesting that, per Donald Trump's statement about killing the families of terrorists, we should do away with the 6 month old baby of the couple that died yesterday.

I was not expecting the anger that resulted from that comment, which seemed like a logical progression of Trump's thoughts. I've been thinking about it ever since. I guess that people don't like to be faced with the harsh reality of such hateful rhetoric. Trump sounds tough and strong to them- from a distance.

Not criticizing, but I'm not understanding how one follows from the other?

Isn't Trump's proposal (I use the word loosely) to target the families of terrorists designed as a deterrent via intimidation (read: mafia style intimidation). I'm not sure how you get to the same conclusion here.

Well of course. If you asked Trump is he in favor of killing the baby now, he'd say of course not. (At least, I hope he'd say that; he's a *******, but that not THAT much of a *******.)

But the point remains: his argument (if one could call it that) is to kill family members of terrorists so as to deter terrorists. Putting aside the question of whether or not that would deter them but instead have the opposite effect, he said it because he wanted to sound tough, and his fans sucked it up because they like that he sounds tough.

So I brought out an real life example of what he's talking about. It doesn't have to be today. We can transpose this discussion to one week ago. Suppose somehow we knew that this couple was planning these murders to take place but we had no way to stop them? Or, to be even closer to what Trump is talking about, suppose we identified this couple as terrorists, knew they were planning something in the future, but had no way to get at them? According to President Trump, we should kill the baby. That will send the message that we mean business.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Andy Dufresne- since you find my viewpoint astonishing, please offer up equivalents within the Democratic Party to Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in terms of fear, bigotry, and ignorance. Tia

Here are a few small examples, certain folks in the GOP are as bad if not worse but don't kid yourself that fear, bigotry and ignorance are partisan items.

Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Democratic National Committee chair

Scott Walker has given women the back of his hand. I know that is stark. That is direct. But that is reality. What Republican tea party extremists like Scott Walker are doing is they are grabbing us by the hair and pulling us back. It is not going to happen on our watch.

UN Ambassador Samantha Power:

Daniel Pearls story is reminder that individual accountability & reconciliation are required to break cycles of violence."

Gubernatorial nominee Wendy Davis (Texas):

Approved a disparaging ad that featured images of a wheelchair like the one her opponent Greg Abbott has had to use for years since a freak accident.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi:

Civilization as we know it would be in jeopardy if Republicans win the Senate.

Representative Maxine Waters:

We do not have a crisis at Freddie Mac, and particularly Fannie Mae, under the outstanding leadership of Frank Raines.

"If sequestration takes place, thats going to be a great setback. We dont need to be having something like sequestration thats going to cause these job losses over 170 million jobs that could be lost"

Future President Hillary Clinton:

"My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don't understand it"

Some good examples there. Some bad ones. None rise even close to the level of Trump and Cruz, who are attacking whole groups of people (mainly Muslims and Mexicans). So on the whole not a good comparison IMO.

Please let me know what Cruz or Trump have said that rise above the level of ignorance of Maxine Waters speaking about Freddie Mac & Fannie Mae.

Please let me know what Cruz or Trump have said that rise above the level of bigotry of Debbie Wasserman equating Scott Walker to a woman beater.

Please let me know what Cruz or Trump have said that rise above the level of fear of Nancy Pelosi calling the end of civilization as we know it if the Republicans win the Senate.


I will give you the argument if you can find a GOP Presidential candidate alluding to one of their opponents potentially getting assassinated. Again, to be clear I'm in no way defending the kooks on the GOP side here but you have to have blinders on to not acknowledge this happens in both parties.

I don't think you understood the distinction that I was making. Perhaps that is my fault, so let me start over. I never meant to state or imply that Democratic politicians don't make foolish, ignorant, bigoted, or stupid comments. I'm certainly not going to defend Maxine Waters, who I have always detested with the heat of 1,000 suns. Nor am I going to defend Hillary's statement about RFK, which I have previously acknowledged is completely inexcusable and by far the worst of her career.

But when I challenged Andy to come up with the equivalents of Trump and Cruz, I was not referring to comments. I was referring to the candidates themselves. I can't think of a major candidate in my lifetime coming from the Democratic party that are the equivalent of Donald Trump or Ted Cruz. Al Sharpton ran for President, but his campaign went nowhere.

If Maxine Waters were to run for President, spew a bunch of her hateful bigotry, and suddenly she led in the polls, beating out Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders, THEN we'd have the equal of what is going on right now in the Republican party. But we don't, and the Democrats never have.

FTR, I've never in my life been a Democrat. This will be the first election ever that I will be voting for the Democrat. The times in my life that I've been associated with a major party, I've been a Republican. (Other times I've been a Libertarian or independent.) I criticize the Republican party because I'm ashamed of it. I'm ashamed of what it's become.

Exactly. Today's Republican Party not only allows these buffoons to stay relevant in the party......but even worse, the party almost necessitates this type of mindset and behavior be exhibited.....for a candidate to be a party leader.

 

[timschochet]

Andy Dufresne- since you find my viewpoint astonishing, please offer up equivalents within the Democratic Party to Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in terms of fear, bigotry, and ignorance. Tia

Here are a few small examples, certain folks in the GOP are as bad if not worse but don't kid yourself that fear, bigotry and ignorance are partisan items.

Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Democratic National Committee chair

Scott Walker has given women the back of his hand. I know that is stark. That is direct. But that is reality. What Republican tea party extremists like Scott Walker are doing is they are grabbing us by the hair and pulling us back. It is not going to happen on our watch.

UN Ambassador Samantha Power:

Daniel Pearls story is reminder that individual accountability & reconciliation are required to break cycles of violence."

Gubernatorial nominee Wendy Davis (Texas):

Approved a disparaging ad that featured images of a wheelchair like the one her opponent Greg Abbott has had to use for years since a freak accident.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi:

Civilization as we know it would be in jeopardy if Republicans win the Senate.

Representative Maxine Waters:

We do not have a crisis at Freddie Mac, and particularly Fannie Mae, under the outstanding leadership of Frank Raines.

"If sequestration takes place, thats going to be a great setback. We dont need to be having something like sequestration thats going to cause these job losses over 170 million jobs that could be lost"

Future President Hillary Clinton:

"My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don't understand it"

Some good examples there. Some bad ones. None rise even close to the level of Trump and Cruz, who are attacking whole groups of people (mainly Muslims and Mexicans). So on the whole not a good comparison IMO.

Please let me know what Cruz or Trump have said that rise above the level of ignorance of Maxine Waters speaking about Freddie Mac & Fannie Mae.

Please let me know what Cruz or Trump have said that rise above the level of bigotry of Debbie Wasserman equating Scott Walker to a woman beater.

Please let me know what Cruz or Trump have said that rise above the level of fear of Nancy Pelosi calling the end of civilization as we know it if the Republicans win the Senate.

I will give you the argument if you can find a GOP Presidential candidate alluding to one of their opponents potentially getting assassinated. Again, to be clear I'm in no way defending the kooks on the GOP side here but you have to have blinders on to not acknowledge this happens in both parties.

I don't get it. Do people really not know that the D's inject racism into every single solitary issue and debate? I really can't think of an exception. All politicians do it, because it works. Same reason all the news outlets use it, because it sells.

I certainly don't believe this to be true. And I suspect that most examples that you would attempt to offer I would reject as inaccurate. (While a smaller number I would accept.)

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Fair enough to with the clarification Tim. I don't think either party has ever had a candidate like Trump, at least not in our lifetime.

In term of Cruz, I would have to study more what he had said because I don't put him in the same camp as Trump. He isn't my type of candidate though.

I would say that with so many candidates still remaining in the GOP primary, I think the polls don't mean a lot right now. Let's see how many people ultimately end up voting for either candidate as I suspect both with be afterthoughts before all is said and done.

 

[squistion]

OK guys, I've been sucessfully chased back into my thread. That's what some of you wanted and so you have it.

I can't stand what I read anymore. I literally can't stand being in those threads and having to argue with people defending Trump, or the worst sort of racial profiling, or hatred and ignorance. It appalls me.

So I'm going to stay in here. I'll limit my commentary to this thread and if it annoys anyone, too ####### bad. Don't open it up if you don't like what I have to say. On the other hand if you truly want a detailed conversation with me about any of these issues (or anything else that's interesting) I would like nothing more.

I will continue to offer up my 100 favorite novels.

C'mon Timmy. We have been down this road before, you won't be happy posting just in this thread because people won't engage you in debate here to the extent they do outside this thread. Last time you tried this a typical discussion involved you and about three or four other people (Saints and YankeeFan being the most regular IIRC).

When you restricted yourself to this thread, I predicted you would ultimately find it unsatisfying and I was right. Now it looks like your critics (MOP, Bender, et al) have bullied you again and you meekly run back here with your tail between your legs. Eventually you will again find it lacking - it is just a matter of time.

Although you are not a liberal or a progressive you are really needed as another voice of reason in a forum where 75% of the posters are way right of center.

Please reconsider. Don't let the MOPs of this board win. Come back out of this self imposed exile and fight the good fight. We need you.

 

[McGarnicle]

98. Snowshoe Thompson

Snowshoe Thompson (April 30, 1827 May 15, 1876) was a nickname for the Norwegian-American John Albert Thompson, an early resident of the Sierra Nevada of Nevada and California. He is considered the father of California skiing.[1]

Between 1856 and 1876, he delivered mail between Placerville, California and Genoa, Nevada and later Virginia City, Nevada. Despite his nickname, he did not make use of the snowshoes that are native to North America, but rather would travel with what the local people applied that term to: ten-foot (over 3-meter) skis, and a single sturdy pole generally held in both hands at once. In other words - it was a crappy nickname.

Further reading here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowshoe_Thompson

Ski people annoy me. Even more than golfers.

What's your stance on frisbee golf?

 

[John Bender]

OK guys, I've been sucessfully chased back into my thread. That's what some of you wanted and so you have it.

I can't stand what I read anymore. I literally can't stand being in those threads and having to argue with people defending Trump, or the worst sort of racial profiling, or hatred and ignorance. It appalls me.

So I'm going to stay in here. I'll limit my commentary to this thread and if it annoys anyone, too ####### bad. Don't open it up if you don't like what I have to say. On the other hand if you truly want a detailed conversation with me about any of these issues (or anything else that's interesting) I would like nothing more.

I will continue to offer up my 100 favorite novels.

C'mon Timmy. We have been down this road before, you won't be happy posting just in this thread because people won't engage you in debate here to the extent they do outside this thread. Last time you tried this a typical discussion involved you and about three or four other people (Saints and YankeeFan being the most regular IIRC).

When you restricted yourself to this thread, I predicted you would ultimately find it unsatisfying and I was right. Now it looks like your critics (MOP, Bender, et al) have bullied you again and you meekly run back here with your tail between your legs. Eventually you will again find it lacking - it is just a matter of time.

Although you are not a liberal or a progressive you are really needed as another voice of reason in a forum where 75% of the posters are way right of center.

Please reconsider. Don't let the MOPs of this board win. Come back out of this self imposed exile and fight the good fight. We need you.

WTF are you talking about? I have 1 post or less in any of the threads that caused tim to revert back to his thread and none of them direct at tim - I don't even read the stuff other than the actual news (or I try not to). Tim and I have gotten along great over the past year or so and we've gotten past any snippiness in the past. He doesn't need a bulldog to help him with his feelings Dr. Phil.

I was also one of the main guys in here who would discuss with him in this very thread when he was confined to it. Since I helped suggest it originally, I thought it only fair and ended up having a good time and new appreciation for him. Go crap up a tree.

 

[timschochet]

I alluded to this in a different thread, but the Republican Party is IMO the greater of the two political parties, with a much richer and far more noble history. It was formed to defeat slavery, and it did so. For the first 50 years of it's existence it fought against Jim Crow. It had our greatest President and greatest American as it's first and most important leader. It was, thanks to Theodore Roosevelt, the first progressive party. And yet it celebrated the greatness of American individualism and liberty.

During the 1920s, Democrats like Woodrow Wilson pushed bigotry and were connected with the KKK, while Republicans fought against it. In the 1930s, Democrats produced demagogues like Huey Long and Father Coughlin, while Republicans fought against it. In the 1940s Democrats were behind the internment of Japanese Americans and Republicans were the only ones to oppose it. And while Joe McCarthy was a product of the Republicans, it was Republicans that eventually defeated him: great conservatives like Dwight Eisenhower, Robert A. Taft, Edward R. Murrow, and the lawyer Joseph Welch. (It's amazing to me how liberals have tried to rewrite history to make Murrow and Welch out to be icons of the Democratic party: both men were staunch Republicans.)

The shift came in the 1960s. First Barry Goldwater, a truly great and sincere statesman, opposed the Civil Rights Act for purely libertarian reasons. Then Richard Nixon saw a way to electoral victory by aligning Republican interests with the resentment of the racist South. Ronald Reagan kept that strategy alive by talking about "Welfare Queens" and paying lip service to Christian fundamentalism. Still, both Nixon and Reagan were serious men who accomplished great things as President. George H W. Bush was a fine President. Even George W. Bush, despite the terrible error of invading Iraq, was a fine patriot who sought to make our country safer and did not seek to divide people.

As I say, a long, great, and noble history. And look where they are now. It's shameful. Its absolutely disgraceful. First the Tea Party, and now Trump and Cruz. It just makes me want to throw up.

 

[timschochet]

OK guys, I've been sucessfully chased back into my thread. That's what some of you wanted and so you have it.

I can't stand what I read anymore. I literally can't stand being in those threads and having to argue with people defending Trump, or the worst sort of racial profiling, or hatred and ignorance. It appalls me.

So I'm going to stay in here. I'll limit my commentary to this thread and if it annoys anyone, too ####### bad. Don't open it up if you don't like what I have to say. On the other hand if you truly want a detailed conversation with me about any of these issues (or anything else that's interesting) I would like nothing more.

I will continue to offer up my 100 favorite novels.

C'mon Timmy. We have been down this road before, you won't be happy posting just in this thread because people won't engage you in debate here to the extent they do outside this thread. Last time you tried this a typical discussion involved you and about three or four other people (Saints and YankeeFan being the most regular IIRC).

When you restricted yourself to this thread, I predicted you would ultimately find it unsatisfying and I was right. Now it looks like your critics (MOP, Bender, et al) have bullied you again and you meekly run back here with your tail between your legs. Eventually you will again find it lacking - it is just a matter of time.

Although you are not a liberal or a progressive you are really needed as another voice of reason in a forum where 75% of the posters are way right of center.

Please reconsider. Don't let the MOPs of this board win. Come back out of this self imposed exile and fight the good fight. We need you.

We'll see. I need a break from the idiocy.

 

[timschochet]

98. Snowshoe Thompson

Snowshoe Thompson (April 30, 1827 May 15, 1876) was a nickname for the Norwegian-American John Albert Thompson, an early resident of the Sierra Nevada of Nevada and California. He is considered the father of California skiing.[1]

Between 1856 and 1876, he delivered mail between Placerville, California and Genoa, Nevada and later Virginia City, Nevada. Despite his nickname, he did not make use of the snowshoes that are native to North America, but rather would travel with what the local people applied that term to: ten-foot (over 3-meter) skis, and a single sturdy pole generally held in both hands at once. In other words - it was a crappy nickname.

Further reading here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowshoe_Thompson

Ski people annoy me. Even more than golfers.

What's your stance on frisbee golf?

There's a course in Huntington Beach at Central Park. Back in the day I used to get drunk and stoned and we'd play there at night. Yeah I have fond memories. It's all good.