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Reginald Cornsilks said:
Neat thread. A race to jack tim off opening with "I never understood the Tim haters". Don't trip over each other you sanctimonious mongrels
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Or a bunch of guys wishing someone they often disagree with and get frustrated with well in his personal life. It could be that simple and not a board thing. 

I just wished him a good New Year and hoped he resolved his issues; most people simply did the same.  

Anyway, peace out, Reginald.  

 
Cracks me up that he has to change the thread title to draw attention to himself.  People take breaks all the time and comeback.

 
 I bet Friday the 13th 1-37 rounds out the list.

not necessarily in that order

 
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rockaction said:
Or a bunch of guys wishing someone they often disagree with and get frustrated with well in his personal life. It could be that simple and not a board thing. 

I just wished him a good New Year and hoped he resolved his issues; most people simply did the same.  

Anyway, peace out, Reginald.  
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Of course. The over the top salt was tongue in cheek. I forgot to add the wink smiley, I guess. 

 
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Soon folks. Soon! Like Godzilla tim will rise from the ocean

 
Not sure what is worse, Tim announcing his hiatus or those who always check his profile to see when he was last on.  I'll go with the later.

 
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fantasycurse42 said:
The announced hiatus, my favorite of them all. 

Prob not in the office until 1/3, he'll try to hold out for a little while due to the post - I'd set the O/U around 1/9 or 1/10 tops. I'd take the under too. 

Happy New Years Tim
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I'll preface by saying I personally have nothing against Tim, just noticed him in the global warming thread - I should be the FFA oddsmaker.

Just pointing out how amazing this line was.

 
fantasycurse42 said:
I'll preface by saying I personally have nothing against Tim, just noticed him in the global warming thread - I should be the FFA oddsmaker.

Just pointing out how amazing this line was.
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I had some personal issues that I thought would take several weeks to resolve. As it happened it took about a week. I wasn't tired of  the forum and I'm glad to be back quickly. 

 
timschochet said:
I had some personal issues that I thought would take several weeks to resolve. As it happened it took about a week. I wasn't tired of  the forum and I'm glad to be back quickly. 
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Yeah, usually the burning goes away after a week on the penicillin. I trust you'll wrap it up next time. 

 
timschochet said:
I had some personal issues that I thought would take several weeks to resolve. As it happened it took about a week. I wasn't tired of  the forum and I'm glad to be back quickly. 
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The board is better with you back...kind of.  

eta* Welcome back, tim. Good to see you and hope your stuff is okay.  

 
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37. Butt Pirates IV: The Wreckening (1996)

Directed by: Jack Swallow

Starring: Jack Swallow, Davey Jones, Lotta Bootay, R.R Matey, Fisticia del Shannon, cameo by Jack Black

Y'know how much of a sucker I am for franchises, but this was a delightful surprise. Finally, a buckaneer sodomy movie that engages both sexes - what a breath of stank air! The history was rich, the storytelling deep, the lubricants creamy and, oh, the twists - what was actually in Davey Jones's locker, the new way of keelhauling. And it was nice to see Jack Black commit so much to his Blackbeard cameo that he took one for the team. I was surprised that he was hung (spoiler alert). Great MM, FF, MMF scenes and it didn't hurt that the cabin boy looked a little like Hillary.

Next up: Housekeeping......housekeeping.....*blushing*......oh, Mr. Ishida!

 
wikkidpissah said:
37. Butt Pirates IV: The Wreckening (1996)

Directed by: Jack Swallow

Starring: Jack Swallow, Davey Jones, Lotta Bootay, R.R Matey, Fisticia del Shannon, cameo by Jack Black

Y'know how much of a sucker I am for franchises, but this was a delightful surprise. Finally, a buckaneer sodomy movie that engages both sexes - what a breath of stank air! The history was rich, the storytelling deep, the lubricants creamy and, oh, the twists - what was actually in Davey Jones's locker, the new way of keelhauling. And it was nice to see Jack Black commit so much to his Blackbeard cameo that he took one for the team. I was surprised that he was hung (spoiler alert). Great MM, FF, MMF scenes and it didn't hurt that the cabin boy looked a little like Hillary.

Next up: Housekeeping......housekeeping.....*blushing*......oh, Mr. Ishida!
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awesome can't wait for the rest of the list  :popcorn:

 
wikkidpissah said:
37. Butt Pirates IV: The Wreckening (1996)

Directed by: Jack Swallow

Starring: Jack Swallow, Davey Jones, Lotta Bootay, R.R Matey, Fisticia del Shannon, cameo by Jack Black

Y'know how much of a sucker I am for franchises, but this was a delightful surprise. Finally, a buckaneer sodomy movie that engages both sexes - what a breath of stank air! The history was rich, the storytelling deep, the lubricants creamy and, oh, the twists - what was actually in Davey Jones's locker, the new way of keelhauling. And it was nice to see Jack Black commit so much to his Blackbeard cameo that he took one for the team. I was surprised that he was hung (spoiler alert). Great MM, FF, MMF scenes and it didn't hurt that the cabin boy looked a little like Hillary.

Next up: Housekeeping......housekeeping.....*blushing*......oh, Mr. Ishida!
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Can't wait until Fisticia meets Ishida. Sounds great. 

:popcorn:

 
wikkidpissah said:
37. Butt Pirates IV: The Wreckening (1996)

Directed by: Jack Swallow

Starring: Jack Swallow, Davey Jones, Lotta Bootay, R.R Matey, Fisticia del Shannon, cameo by Jack Black

Y'know how much of a sucker I am for franchises, but this was a delightful surprise. Finally, a buckaneer sodomy movie that engages both sexes - what a breath of stank air! The history was rich, the storytelling deep, the lubricants creamy and, oh, the twists - what was actually in Davey Jones's locker, the new way of keelhauling. And it was nice to see Jack Black commit so much to his Blackbeard cameo that he took one for the team. I was surprised that he was hung (spoiler alert). Great MM, FF, MMF scenes and it didn't hurt that the cabin boy looked a little like Hillary.

Next up: Housekeeping......housekeeping.....*blushing*......oh, Mr. Ishida!
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:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:  

 
timschochet said:
I had some personal issues that I thought would take several weeks to resolve. As it happened it took about a week. I wasn't tired of  the forum and I'm glad to be back quickly. 
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It's good to see you again, tim.  Place isn't the same without you.

 
Thanks for the kind words everyone. I will finish the movie list and the chess tourney will be started pretty soon. 

wikkid, I hated all of those Pirate movies which my kids dragged me to see. I have decided that for the rest of my life I'm going to boycott anything that has pirates or vampires in it. 

 
timschochet said:
Thanks for the kind words everyone. I will finish the movie list and the chess tourney will be started pretty soon. 

wikkid, I hated all of those Pirate movies which my kids dragged me to see. I have decided that for the rest of my life I'm going to boycott anything that has pirates or vampires in it. 
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dont bother. wikkid has this covered....

 
36. Touching Touchiness

Directed by: Debbie Wasserman-Schvanz

Starring: Meryl Streep, Keanu Reeves, the ghost of Jacob Marley

This usually isn't my kind of movie but i found myself deeply moved by the story of a young boy sentenced to community service for attempting to give comprehensive explanations of everything in creation to people on the bus. When he asks the judge if he can join a political campaign to pay his debt for this psychic frottage, His Honor indulges him and the boy goes to work pressing the pantsuits for a Senatorial candidate who gained most of her notoriety when she was badly injured trying to pull her Governor husband and a naked cheerleader from a burning scorekeeper's booth. Keanu never impressed me as much of an actor, but his reaction when he brings pantsuits into the Senator's dressing room and finds her naked, tracing her burn wounds and practicing fake orgasms in the mirror is worth the price of admission alone and begins an affair that says more than i can about love & politics, and that's a lot. The ghost was surprising good as the Senator's opponent, Reginald Rathwig.

Next up: This is not the kind of bookstore i imagined. It's almost magic!

 
wikkidpissah said:
36. Touching Touchiness

Directed by: Debbie Wasserman-Schvanz

Starring: Meryl Streep, Keanu Reeves, the ghost of Jacob Marley

This usually isn't my kind of movie but i found myself deeply moved by the story of a young boy sentenced to community service for attempting to give comprehensive explanations of everything in creation to people on the bus. When he asks the judge if he can join a political campaign to pay his debt for this psychic frottage, His Honor indulges him and the boy goes to work pressing the pantsuits for a Senatorial candidate who gained most of her notoriety when she was badly injured trying to pull her Governor husband and a naked cheerleader from a burning scorekeeper's booth. Keanu never impressed me as much of an actor, but his reaction when he brings pantsuits into the Senator's dressing room and finds her naked, tracing her burn wounds and practicing fake orgasms in the mirror is worth the price of admission alone and begins an affair that says more than i can about love & politics, and that's a lot. The ghost was surprising good as the Senator's opponent, Reginald Rathwig.

Next up: This is not the kind of bookstore i imagined. It's almost magic!
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HFS  :lmao:

 
timschochet said:
Or maybe you overestimate them? 
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:shrug: I remember it thusly:

- This will blow over in a week [Later ->] Lasts 18 months, longer than her actual campaign.

- It was all personal. -> It was work related.

- She turned them all over. -> She didn't turn them all over.

- She didn't need authorization. -> She needed authorization.

- It was authorized. -> It wasn't authorized.

- She didn't receive anything classified. -> She received classified.

- She didn't send anything classified. -> She sent classified.

- She won't have to hand over the server. -> The server is taken from her.

- It won't affect her politically. -> Her ratings drop.

- She isn't under investigation. - She's under investigation.

- Well she's not under criminal investigation. -> She's under criminal investigation.

- Comey will exonerate her. -> Comey says not authorized, did send/received classified at the highest level, but no intent.

- Well at least she wasn't grossly negligent. -> Comey: she was extremely careless.

- Well at least it's over. -> Comey drops letter about Weiner investigation.

[insert monthly to weekly document drops in the above].

Then she lost.

- I don't want to revisit it, I just mean that every time you said something blowing off the importance of what was going on it would explode the next week or month...

IOW: Trump may not go to jail or be forced to resign but this is a BFD.

 
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35. Day Of 1000 Posts

Directed by: Hillary Clinton

Starring: Matthew  Broderick

It seems crazy that an entire movie would take place in one room and with only one person, but this movie really made it work. I've never been much of a Matthew Broderick fan (he was given a great opportunity to shine in Glory, but ended up being a liability in that movie) but this role was really made for him. He spends an entire 24 hours doing nothing but posting on an internet forum. Sounds crazy, but I was enthralled, and when the movie ended I was asking for more. Just when you think he's done, he finds another thread and is banging away at the keyboard again. The score could have been more upbeat. It made it sound like he was nuts. I would have preferred some more positive music to show what a hero he is. 

Next up: Be excellent to each other.... and.... PARTY ON DUDE!
 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
:shrug: I remember it thusly:

- This will blow over in a week [Later ->] Lasts 18 months, longer than her actual campaign.

- She didn't need authorization. -> She needed authorization.

- It was authorized. - > It wasn't authorized.

- She didn't receive anything classified. -> She received classified.

- She didn't send anything classified. -> She sent classified.

- She won't have to hand over the server. -> The server is taken from her.

- It won't affect her politically. -> Her ratings drop.

- She isn't under investigation. - She's under investigation.

- Well she's not under criminal investigation. -> She's under criminal investigation.

- Comey will exonerate her. -> Comey says not authorized, did send/received classified at the highest level, but no intent.

- Well at least she wasn't grossly negligent. -> Comey: she was extremely careless.

- Well at least it's over. -> Comey drops letter about Weiner investigation.

[insert monthly to weekly document drops in the above].

Then she lost.

- I don't want to revisit it, I just mean that every time you said something blowing off the importance of what was going on it would explode the next week or month...

IOW: Trump may not go to jail or be forced to resign but this is a BFD.
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I don't care if you revisit it.

Here's where I was wrong: I didn't think any of this stuff would cost her the election. Obviously it played a big part (not the biggest part IMO, but a big part.)

Other than that, I stand by everything I wrote. I don't believe she did anything wrong. I think it's a tragedy for our country that she was defeated.

 
timschochet said:
I don't care if you revisit it.

Here's where I was wrong: I didn't think any of this stuff would cost her the election. Obviously it played a big part (not the biggest part IMO, but a big part.)

Other than that, I stand by everything I wrote. I don't believe she did anything wrong. I think it's a tragedy for our country that she was defeated.
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Well my point is the Trump comp.

It's funny how Trumpites bring Hillary up as some kind of moral example to call out hypocrisy, but if Hillary is the comp politically this is not going to end well for him... there will be the same sort of drip of  revelations, a  Congressional investigation is underway and an FBI/intelligence investigation may be as well.

This is going to be a long, painful experience for Trump & his supporters.

 
wikkidpissah said:
36. Touching Touchiness

Directed by: Debbie Wasserman-Schvanz

Starring: Meryl Streep, Keanu Reeves, the ghost of Jacob Marley

This usually isn't my kind of movie but i found myself deeply moved by the story of a young boy sentenced to community service for attempting to give comprehensive explanations of everything in creation to people on the bus. When he asks the judge if he can join a political campaign to pay his debt for this psychic frottage, His Honor indulges him and the boy goes to work pressing the pantsuits for a Senatorial candidate who gained most of her notoriety when she was badly injured trying to pull her Governor husband and a naked cheerleader from a burning scorekeeper's booth. Keanu never impressed me as much of an actor, but his reaction when he brings pantsuits into the Senator's dressing room and finds her naked, tracing her burn wounds and practicing fake orgasms in the mirror is worth the price of admission alone and begins an affair that says more than i can about love & politics, and that's a lot. The ghost was surprising good as the Senator's opponent, Reginald Rathwig.

Next up: This is not the kind of bookstore i imagined. It's almost magic!
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God I want to see this movie.

 
wikkidpissah said:
36. Touching Touchiness

Directed by: Debbie Wasserman-Schvanz

Starring: Meryl Streep, Keanu Reeves, the ghost of Jacob Marley

This usually isn't my kind of movie but i found myself deeply moved by the story of a young boy sentenced to community service for attempting to give comprehensive explanations of everything in creation to people on the bus. When he asks the judge if he can join a political campaign to pay his debt for this psychic frottage, His Honor indulges him and the boy goes to work pressing the pantsuits for a Senatorial candidate who gained most of her notoriety when she was badly injured trying to pull her Governor husband and a naked cheerleader from a burning scorekeeper's booth. Keanu never impressed me as much of an actor, but his reaction when he brings pantsuits into the Senator's dressing room and finds her naked, tracing her burn wounds and practicing fake orgasms in the mirror is worth the price of admission alone and begins an affair that says more than i can about love & politics, and that's a lot. The ghost was surprising good as the Senator's opponent, Reginald Rathwig.

Next up: This is not the kind of bookstore i imagined. It's almost magic!




 
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frottage ...beautiful.  :D

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
:shrug: I remember it thusly:

- This will blow over in a week [Later ->] Lasts 18 months, longer than her actual campaign.

- It was all personal. -> It was work related.

- She turned them all over. -> She didn't turn them all over.

- She didn't need authorization. -> She needed authorization.

- It was authorized. -> It wasn't authorized.

- She didn't receive anything classified. -> She received classified.

- She didn't send anything classified. -> She sent classified.

- She won't have to hand over the server. -> The server is taken from her.

- It won't affect her politically. -> Her ratings drop.

- She isn't under investigation. - She's under investigation.

- Well she's not under criminal investigation. -> She's under criminal investigation.

- Comey will exonerate her. -> Comey says not authorized, did send/received classified at the highest level, but no intent.

- Well at least she wasn't grossly negligent. -> Comey: she was extremely careless.

- Well at least it's over. -> Comey drops letter about Weiner investigation.

[insert monthly to weekly document drops in the above].

Then she lost.

- I don't want to revisit it, I just mean that every time you said something blowing off the importance of what was going on it would explode the next week or month...

IOW: Trump may not go to jail or be forced to resign but this is a BFD.
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Tim was wrong on virtually everything, but yet he stands by his wrongness.  Classic Tim.  :lol:

 
Two trailer park girls go 'round the outside
'Round the outside, 'round the outside
Two trailer park girls go 'round the outside
'Round the outside, 'round the outside
Guess who's back, back again
Timmy's back, tell a friend
 
 
 
Welcome back..
 
 
Yankee23Fan said:
Andrew Johnson (1865-1869)

Public Acumen/Persuasion

If Johnson was half the man Lincoln was there is a chance that he could have had an effective time in office. But he wasn’t close. Johnson seemed to believe that when he talked to anyone he should remain supportive of whatever they were talking about, and then do whatever he wanted after the fact. This angered just about everyone. Bills that were thought to have his support were vetoed, he completely miscalculated the effects of the civil war on the country and how the north would deal with reconstruction, and he ultimately alienated his party, the other party, the whole of Congress, most of the states and just about everyone in between. The depths of his failures here are so massive that it would take too long to get through, but let’s just say that giving him a 1 here is being nice.

The guy even tried to talk directly to the people when he wanted to run for re-election and just about every speech backfired considerably.

War & Crisis

Johnson’s main crisis upon taking office after the death of Abraham Lincoln was reconstruction. With Congress out of session until the end of the year, the initial 6 months of rebuilding the country were his sole responsibility. Johnson set out to reform the state governments by appointing governors to write new constitutions that demanded the south to basically come back on bended knee. His plans were going to be much harsher than Lincoln’s. Except for some reason that is hard to explain in history, he backed down almost immediately on many of his threats and began pardoning a ton of people, including leaders of the south. At the same time while he demanded the new state constitutions to be anti-slavery almost all of them had ‘black codes’ that were a small step above slavery and Johnson just kept working with them.

When Congress came back into session they attacked almost every aspect of his plan. Radical republicans wanted the south punished. Moderates tried to find some common ground to make it all work, and Johnson believed that the black question was more left to the states and got in the way of any progress. Johnson tried to block voting rights for blacks until his last days in office and it resulted in his facing impeachment.

When the impeachment crisis started it looked fairly clear that Johnson was going to be removed from office. But he eventually made a deal with congressional republicans to stay away from fighting them on reconstruction if they didn’t vote to convict. In that deal, Johnson hamstrung future presidents as Congress acted with more formal power than they had in the face of the executive – something that was feared to have happened with Harrison died 40 years earlier.

Economy

He so mishandled reconstruction that he had no economic policy to speak of. Congress eventually began running the country and he was a figurehead at best. Was the economy better when he left? Not really. It’s about the nicest thing you can say about Johnson.

Foreign Policy

Giving Johnson credit for any foreign policy acts while he was in office is an affront to William Seward. Facing massive problems at home and an inability to do anything with it, Seward was basically our Prime Minister. He negotiated with Russia, got Johnson to send troops to Mexico to stop fighting there with France, and made peace with England over civil war claims. Johnson didn’t have the ability to do any of this without Seward, had no true set policy and left the foreign affairs of his time to a better man. If he handled foreign affairs the way he handled his own country, we would have been invaded by every country under the sun.

Executive Skills/Congress

He had one shining moment in his first week when the cabinet supported him. Then all hell broke loose. He fought with congress, he fired Stanton, he went to war with republicans, supported democrats, thought he was better than all of them, and made enemies in every single corridor of power in the country. The result was the impeachment movement that almost removed him from power. Good rule of thumb for all Presidents – look at how Johnson handled congress and then do the opposite. You are pretty much guaranteed a 7 or more in this category.

Justice/Rights

Johnson was an unapologetic racist. He allowed black codes throughout the south, regarded the slavery question as a waste of time, vetoed the Freedman’s Bureau, fought the amendments to the Constitution that were making their way through the country, and did everything in his power to stop blacks from having equal footing – or any footing – in the country after the war.

Context

It would have been hard for anyone to follow Lincoln. Though he won the war, the smoke was still rising from the battles. It required a political skill to work within the rebuilding of the nation that few had. Lincoln would have managed it. Johnson couldn’t. His personal failures were immense, his political failures were worse. Congress basically stripped executive power from the President just 3 years after our greatest President rules so well simply because Johnson was so bad. And his failures led to an awful 30 years of reconstruction that result in the racism problems this country has even today. The black codes that he ignored and allowed to fester turned the south into an anti-black zone for decades. In every measure, Andrew Johnson was an awful President.

Conclusion

Lincoln’s corpse could have been a better President, Weekend at Bernie’s style. At least then, Seward and Stanton could have run the country for a few years. On persuasion he gets a 1, on crisis a 1, economy 1, foreign policy 2, congress 1, civil rights 1, context 1. 8 total points. And only because the lowest is 7. We are still feeling the effects of the great failure of Andrew Johnson in this country. Future Presidents had a helluva time trying to fix everything. And unlike Buchanan and Pierce, there is nothing you can point to, however small, and say that at least Johnson did that right. He did nothing right.
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I get the sneaking suspicion that Andy might have some company in the very near future.

Shame really, what this exercise should have brought forth is that for the most part all of our presidents were good men that usually did what they thought was right. Even the failures, save Johnson, have some context to it. 

 
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