Welcome.@Bri thank you for all your Titans insight over the years. I may have missed it, but who do you want them to grab with the top pick?
Early it is, hopefully you guys land the right guy or a nice package of picks if they are not enamored with the options. I think Ward provides the most upside, but it is seemingly down year at the quarterback position.Welcome.@Bri thank you for all your Titans insight over the years. I may have missed it, but who do you want them to grab with the top pick?
I don't know yet.
Many supposed GMs saying no QBs worthy of first round has me a bit off for now
Same.Welcome.@Bri thank you for all your Titans insight over the years. I may have missed it, but who do you want them to grab with the top pick?
I don't know yet.
Many supposed GMs saying no QBs worthy of first round has me a bit off for now
Sure. But why would anyone trade up? Maybe if the giants or someone wants to hire Deion as their coach?But I also don't hate the idea of trading back for extra 1sts.
Travis Hunter seems to be the only gem right now.Sure. But why would anyone trade up? Maybe if the giants or someone wants to hire Deion as their coach?But I also don't hate the idea of trading back for extra 1sts.
My concept is simply this is a bad year to have been this bad. But I’d rather see the titans trade future picks for McCarthy (not the 1 unless Minnesota includes a decent package) or Darnold, whichever the Vikings decide can go (will readdress Tuesday).What's your concept? Add this so at least it's good for 8-10 years?
mussing about our QB options next year. I think the bolded is probably why we should draft WR and/or trade down. There are plenty of QB hungry teams that will give us some extra picks for the chance to draft Ward/Sanders. I previously stated a signing Darnold should be our bridge but his not great play these last two weeks has me a little worried. I did have the crazy thought that we should have a Mariota reunion. Doubt Minn is going to want to part with McCarthy. Maybe Dobbs would want to come back.My concept is simply this is a bad year to have been this bad. But I’d rather see the titans trade future picks for McCarthy (not the 1 unless Minnesota includes a decent package) or Darnold, whichever the Vikings decide can go (will readdress Tuesday).What's your concept? Add this so at least it's good for 8-10 years?
More likely, stay in place and draft Ward. I see him as more likely to lead a team to the playoffs than Sanders but neither likely to be all pro.
It'll change. It's more fluid than it seems now.mussing about our QB options next year. I think the bolded is probably why we should draft WR and/or trade down. There are plenty of QB hungry teams that will give us some extra picks for the chance to draft Ward/Sanders. I previously stated a signing Darnold should be our bridge but his not great play these last two weeks has me a little worried. I did have the crazy thought that we should have a Mariota reunion. Doubt Minn is going to want to part with McCarthy. Maybe Dobbs would want to come back.My concept is simply this is a bad year to have been this bad. But I’d rather see the titans trade future picks for McCarthy (not the 1 unless Minnesota includes a decent package) or Darnold, whichever the Vikings decide can go (will readdress Tuesday).What's your concept? Add this so at least it's good for 8-10 years?
More likely, stay in place and draft Ward. I see him as more likely to lead a team to the playoffs than Sanders but neither likely to be all pro.
So my question to you guys is which of these QBs do we get?
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It didn't meet my expectations because I was a shark looking for blood in the water or dirt.Ran is on the radio now.
I don't have time to listen. Will do so later.
oh, I hadn't heard the news yet. lol Dallas would have to move up to get him which seems dumb but it's Jerry Jones/Deion Sanders so it could happen but the smart play would just be to stay @ 12 and do RB or even if you did move up to get a better RB. Or maybe they'd do something very dumb and trade a bunch of future picks to get Sanders and then RB @ 12.Suppose Dak is part of a trade because Deion wants his boy?
I think Pittsburgh screwed up not taking a longer look at Fields. Someone like Cleveland will likely offer more than the Steelers would be willing to commit.Dallas will go RB. I was thinking/hoping that the Raiders trade up. I'd also like Feilds but he'll resign in Pitt unless they don't want him.
Hypothetically, Sanders is named coach and Dallas trades up to the 1.01 (a stretch I know). What is the compensation? I would have to think Dak would be involved but maybe they could trade him elsewhere to garner picks. Something like 2025 1 and 2, 2026 1 and 2 and 2027 3rd?oh, I hadn't heard the news yet. lol Dallas would have to move up to get him which seems dumb but it's Jerry Jones/Deion Sanders so it could happen but the smart play would just be to stay @ 12 and do RB or even if you did move up to get a better RB. Or maybe they'd do something very dumb and trade a bunch of future picks to get Sanders and then RB @ 12.Suppose Dak is part of a trade because Deion wants his boy?
Trading from the 12 to the 1 seems quite pricey, but maybe Carolina’s move up serves as a basis.Hypothetically, Sanders is named coach and Dallas trades up to the 1.01 (a stretch I know). What is the compensation? I would have to think Dak would be involved but maybe they could trade him elsewhere to garner picks. Something like 2025 1 and 2, 2026 1 and 2 and 2027 3rd?oh, I hadn't heard the news yet. lol Dallas would have to move up to get him which seems dumb but it's Jerry Jones/Deion Sanders so it could happen but the smart play would just be to stay @ 12 and do RB or even if you did move up to get a better RB. Or maybe they'd do something very dumb and trade a bunch of future picks to get Sanders and then RB @ 12.Suppose Dak is part of a trade because Deion wants his boy?
I would be totally fine trading down for a package that doesn't involve Dak.Time to throw away all board credibility and get reckless
Here is something MoP likes to call "Reckless Speculation"
(stolen from Dan LeB)
-Is it possible if the Cowboys hire Deion Sanders as their next head coach which I think is a long shot but it fits the owner just about right...if they hire Sanders, would they trade up to No 1 overall in a Draft that doesn't have a lot of big names at the top but Sanders has 2 players he can grab from Colorado that are projected to be either No 1 overall or Top 5
I can see Dallas signing Sanders and then offering picks to Tennessee that will be as good as anything else that comes there way since many in the Top 5-10 are gonna pass at QB mainly because the prospects are just good but not necessarily franchise types.
The 2nd Half of the 1st looks a lot safer and almost better than what is being presented to teams in the Top 10
Titans need a lot of new talent, I'd think trading down and accumulating future 1st/2nd round picks and taking a slow approach would be better for them
-Final note, not a huge fan of the head coach, lost 6 straight and the team didn't seem to get a lot better the 2nd Half of the season. I'm not optimistic about Callahan
If the new GM wants to hire their own head coach, I'd go ahead and let Callahan go even if you didn't pink slip him immediately.
There's an enormous lack of stars. Similar to what I said in the Steelers thread and maybe not coincidentally on Arthur's shoulders.Time to throw away all board credibility and get reckless
Here is something MoP likes to call "Reckless Speculation"
(stolen from Dan LeB)
-Is it possible if the Cowboys hire Deion Sanders as their next head coach which I think is a long shot but it fits the owner just about right...if they hire Sanders, would they trade up to No 1 overall in a Draft that doesn't have a lot of big names at the top but Sanders has 2 players he can grab from Colorado that are projected to be either No 1 overall or Top 5
I can see Dallas signing Sanders and then offering picks to Tennessee that will be as good as anything else that comes there way since many in the Top 5-10 are gonna pass at QB mainly because the prospects are just good but not necessarily franchise types.
The 2nd Half of the 1st looks a lot safer and almost better than what is being presented to teams in the Top 10
Titans need a lot of new talent, I'd think trading down and accumulating future 1st/2nd round picks and taking a slow approach would be better for them
-Final note, not a huge fan of the head coach, lost 6 straight and the team didn't seem to get a lot better the 2nd Half of the season. I'm not optimistic about Callahan
If the new GM wants to hire their own head coach, I'd go ahead and let Callahan go even if you didn't pink slip him immediately.
Great post.There's an enormous lack of stars. Similar to what I said in the Steelers thread and maybe not coincidentally on Arthur's shoulders.Time to throw away all board credibility and get reckless
Here is something MoP likes to call "Reckless Speculation"
(stolen from Dan LeB)
-Is it possible if the Cowboys hire Deion Sanders as their next head coach which I think is a long shot but it fits the owner just about right...if they hire Sanders, would they trade up to No 1 overall in a Draft that doesn't have a lot of big names at the top but Sanders has 2 players he can grab from Colorado that are projected to be either No 1 overall or Top 5
I can see Dallas signing Sanders and then offering picks to Tennessee that will be as good as anything else that comes there way since many in the Top 5-10 are gonna pass at QB mainly because the prospects are just good but not necessarily franchise types.
The 2nd Half of the 1st looks a lot safer and almost better than what is being presented to teams in the Top 10
Titans need a lot of new talent, I'd think trading down and accumulating future 1st/2nd round picks and taking a slow approach would be better for them
-Final note, not a huge fan of the head coach, lost 6 straight and the team didn't seem to get a lot better the 2nd Half of the season. I'm not optimistic about Callahan
If the new GM wants to hire their own head coach, I'd go ahead and let Callahan go even if you didn't pink slip him immediately.
Who wins on third down? Which back gets it on 4th and 1 and is a lock? Which QB are you pumped for a fourth quarter two minute drive?
We keep drafting tackle after tackle after tackle and are left with lunch pail guys at skill positions that I applaud but they should be backups.
Skill positions are stars.
How about we stop needing an OC to be so creative and get a WR that's gonna make us wonder why they throw elsewhere ever?
Pollard has been a fine fill in. He has limitations.
Ridley probably just dropped a bowl in his kitchen.
We are always at this basic level of offense hoping for luck or scheme.
AJB had a zillion TDs on the simplest routes that he turned into big plays.
Some Henry runs were so ordinary on paper but look at him bust it.
I don't know that Callahan is or isn't the answer. Some replacement coach will have the same problem though. They need some players that are locks to win each snap.
Ya know when Tannehill looked great? When eight were in the box to stop Henry and the DC was tempted to have more. That's how good teams scheme. Not the way it is now
Does not help when you miss on the young ones either (e.g. Treylon Burks). Thought you guys may have got a good slot in Kyle Phillips but he just has not been able to stay on the field.Great post.There's an enormous lack of stars. Similar to what I said in the Steelers thread and maybe not coincidentally on Arthur's shoulders.Time to throw away all board credibility and get reckless
Here is something MoP likes to call "Reckless Speculation"
(stolen from Dan LeB)
-Is it possible if the Cowboys hire Deion Sanders as their next head coach which I think is a long shot but it fits the owner just about right...if they hire Sanders, would they trade up to No 1 overall in a Draft that doesn't have a lot of big names at the top but Sanders has 2 players he can grab from Colorado that are projected to be either No 1 overall or Top 5
I can see Dallas signing Sanders and then offering picks to Tennessee that will be as good as anything else that comes there way since many in the Top 5-10 are gonna pass at QB mainly because the prospects are just good but not necessarily franchise types.
The 2nd Half of the 1st looks a lot safer and almost better than what is being presented to teams in the Top 10
Titans need a lot of new talent, I'd think trading down and accumulating future 1st/2nd round picks and taking a slow approach would be better for them
-Final note, not a huge fan of the head coach, lost 6 straight and the team didn't seem to get a lot better the 2nd Half of the season. I'm not optimistic about Callahan
If the new GM wants to hire their own head coach, I'd go ahead and let Callahan go even if you didn't pink slip him immediately.
Who wins on third down? Which back gets it on 4th and 1 and is a lock? Which QB are you pumped for a fourth quarter two minute drive?
We keep drafting tackle after tackle after tackle and are left with lunch pail guys at skill positions that I applaud but they should be backups.
Skill positions are stars.
How about we stop needing an OC to be so creative and get a WR that's gonna make us wonder why they throw elsewhere ever?
Pollard has been a fine fill in. He has limitations.
Ridley probably just dropped a bowl in his kitchen.
We are always at this basic level of offense hoping for luck or scheme.
AJB had a zillion TDs on the simplest routes that he turned into big plays.
Some Henry runs were so ordinary on paper but look at him bust it.
I don't know that Callahan is or isn't the answer. Some replacement coach will have the same problem though. They need some players that are locks to win each snap.
Ya know when Tannehill looked great? When eight were in the box to stop Henry and the DC was tempted to have more. That's how good teams scheme. Not the way it is now
I am SO sick of the Titans bringing in 30 year old receivers whose best years are CLEARLY behind them.
Julio Jones
Robert Woods
Hopkins
Now 92 million over 4 for a pretty "meh" version of Ridley. He had 1,000 yards with Lawrence, and we thought Levis was going to unlock him.
Yeah he went to the eagles and stunk there too. I liked himDoes not help when you miss on the young ones either (e.g. Treylon Burks). Thought you guys may have got a good slot in Kyle Phillips but he just has not been able to stay on the field.Great post.There's an enormous lack of stars. Similar to what I said in the Steelers thread and maybe not coincidentally on Arthur's shoulders.Time to throw away all board credibility and get reckless
Here is something MoP likes to call "Reckless Speculation"
(stolen from Dan LeB)
-Is it possible if the Cowboys hire Deion Sanders as their next head coach which I think is a long shot but it fits the owner just about right...if they hire Sanders, would they trade up to No 1 overall in a Draft that doesn't have a lot of big names at the top but Sanders has 2 players he can grab from Colorado that are projected to be either No 1 overall or Top 5
I can see Dallas signing Sanders and then offering picks to Tennessee that will be as good as anything else that comes there way since many in the Top 5-10 are gonna pass at QB mainly because the prospects are just good but not necessarily franchise types.
The 2nd Half of the 1st looks a lot safer and almost better than what is being presented to teams in the Top 10
Titans need a lot of new talent, I'd think trading down and accumulating future 1st/2nd round picks and taking a slow approach would be better for them
-Final note, not a huge fan of the head coach, lost 6 straight and the team didn't seem to get a lot better the 2nd Half of the season. I'm not optimistic about Callahan
If the new GM wants to hire their own head coach, I'd go ahead and let Callahan go even if you didn't pink slip him immediately.
Who wins on third down? Which back gets it on 4th and 1 and is a lock? Which QB are you pumped for a fourth quarter two minute drive?
We keep drafting tackle after tackle after tackle and are left with lunch pail guys at skill positions that I applaud but they should be backups.
Skill positions are stars.
How about we stop needing an OC to be so creative and get a WR that's gonna make us wonder why they throw elsewhere ever?
Pollard has been a fine fill in. He has limitations.
Ridley probably just dropped a bowl in his kitchen.
We are always at this basic level of offense hoping for luck or scheme.
AJB had a zillion TDs on the simplest routes that he turned into big plays.
Some Henry runs were so ordinary on paper but look at him bust it.
I don't know that Callahan is or isn't the answer. Some replacement coach will have the same problem though. They need some players that are locks to win each snap.
Ya know when Tannehill looked great? When eight were in the box to stop Henry and the DC was tempted to have more. That's how good teams scheme. Not the way it is now
I am SO sick of the Titans bringing in 30 year old receivers whose best years are CLEARLY behind them.
Julio Jones
Robert Woods
Hopkins
Now 92 million over 4 for a pretty "meh" version of Ridley. He had 1,000 yards with Lawrence, and we thought Levis was going to unlock him.
I love ol Earl.Last time the Titans/Oilers had the first pick was 1978, pick was Earl Campbell (for you youngins he was the old school Derrick Henry)
Mike Borgonzo is the new GM, formerly of the Chiefs
He was with Dorsey and Pioli too. I saw New England a bunch on his wiki.Mike Borgonzo is the new GM, formerly of the Chiefs
Hard to know on front office guys, but he was in KC a long time and assistant to Veach for 4 years. He had to at least be competent and learned from him.
I’ll take Adrian Martinez but hard pass on Rodgers.Brinker worked for 12 years in Green Bay and Rodgers owns a house in Nashville so a common concept is him coming to TEN for a year while a rookie learns.
I am all conflicted by this concept. He is not not a team player in his old age but I also wouldn't say he leaves things to the staff.
Insert whatever you thought of Deion. Idk that I want Rodgers showing Deion's kid his old age ways of manipulating things.
I want the former MVP but he's not the same since his Achilles so I lean towards not.
It's very conflicting.
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I maybe want Adrian Martinez.
The impressive UFL QB has impressed in preseason and Rodgers raves about him.
I wish the Titans could talk to Rodgers and say tell me about Martinez versus Ward, Sheduer, and Levis and other young QBs. Are you raving he's a great backup or future star or...tell me what you think.
Rodgers isn't usually a fan of other QBs but competitive and nitpicky. It's a bit unusual for him to be this way and I would really like to hear some details.
Is he a find or gonna be good on the scout team and QB room for a decade?