Titans 2025 (2 Viewers)

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

Was playing around with the cap numbers at over the cap. IMHO there are about 35 contracts that would be cost effective to cut and would increase our cap space to 85.1 (84.1 if we keep Spears)
Whether or not we should cut some of these guys, I don't know.

 

[Mitchie]

Odd to be #1 pick

Cam Ward, QB, Miami	-130
Abdul Carter, EDGE, Penn State	+190
Travis Hunter, ATH, Colorado	+450
Shedeur Sanders, QB, Colorado	+500

 

[Bri]

The frustration I have felt watching the Titans OL surely feels the same as the Bengals frustrated fans.
This speaks to me
What an idea
Yes! This is worth a try!

New Bengals O-Line Coach Scott Peters Plans Major Strike: 'They Understand Where They Need To Be If You Put Them There' | THE CONVERSATION

 

[Bri]

Was playing around with the cap numbers at over the cap. IMHO there are about 35 contracts that would be cost effective to cut and would increase our cap space to 85.1 (84.1 if we keep Spears)
Whether or not we should cut some of these guys, I don't know.

There are 32 free agents.
Ran replaced 60+ % of the roster each of the last two years.
They're not good. They MAY be good but this is exactly what I hate about new GMs.
I don't care about their ego or "their team "
He took over a playoff team

You've taken over good and bad dynasty teams I'm sure. There IS a difference.

The amount of money available is an amount good teams have when they've got stars locked up and have to find a way to get everyone signed and under the cap.

This is a mockery. It's so sad.

After the worst record in 2024-What's 2025 look like? 31 UFL guys?

The math is brutal.

People talk of trading Big Jeff to get some room. Holy cow is that lazy. Trade the man of the year pro bowl guy rather than the mess around him? One of the few gems they have?

It's very upsetting and I could sure use some positivity from Borgonzi. I'm so over ready to be happy and enjoying Sunday's again

 

[Bri]

Was playing around with the cap numbers at over the cap. IMHO there are about 35 contracts that would be cost effective to cut and would increase our cap space to 85.1 (84.1 if we keep Spears)
Whether or not we should cut some of these guys, I don't know.

Well so who you cutting?

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

Player	Dead Money	Cap Saving
Roger McCreary	$$996,475	$3,570,000
Nicholas Petit-Frere	$239,129	3,355,000
Josh Whyle	$162,684	$948,658
Arlington Hambright	$0	$1,100,000
Jaelyn Duncan	$94,904	$982,548
Colton Dowell	$51,348	$1,004,326
Jarvis Brownlee	$256,527	$788,982
Abdullah Anderson	$0	$1,030,000
Leroy Watson	$0	$1,030,000
McTelvin Agim	$0	$1,030,000
Isaiah Prince	$0	$1,030,000
Stanley Morgan	$0	$1,030,000
Chandler Brewer	$0	$1,030,000
Curtis Bolton	$0	$1,030,000
Mason Kinsey	$0	$1,030,000
Kyron Johnson	$0	$1,030,000
John Ojukwu	$0	$1,030,000
Jha'Quan Jackson	$152,751	$858,166
James Williams	$67,119	$915,254
Jaylen Harrell	$60,552	$919,632
David Martin-Robinson	$5,000	$957,500
Thomas Odukoya	$0	$960,000
Gabe Jeudy-Lally	$0	$960,000
Gervarrius Owens	$0	$960,000
Bryce Oliver	$0	$960,000
Kendell Brooks	$0	$960,000
Ali Gaye	$0	$960,000
Logan Bruss	$0	$960,000
Julius Wood	$0	$906,667
Isaiah Iton	$0	$840,000
Jabari Small	$0	$840,000
Tay Martin	$0	$840,000
Khalid Duke	$0	$840,000

That's who I think is cutable . Whether or not they SHOULD be cut-thats where your expertise comes in. Even if we said "ok, let's only cut guys that give us no dead cap". That still gives us 66.4.

I also think

Player	Dead Money	Cap Savings
Chigoziem Okonkwo	$126,084	$3,355,000
Tyjae Spears	$496,582	$1,000,855

could be cost cutting savings. Maybe you want to keep them and sure. Cutting Chig gived you 3 million in cap room though.



Out of these who do we keep?

 

[Bri]

In 2025 the rookie minimum will be 840k and vet should be about a million.
An NFL cap has all the top heavy guys, on and on down the list until maybe the 35th 40th player? And then 40-53 make the minimum.

Only the top 53 count against the cap in season, top 51 out of season.

Most of them can all be on the 90 and let the staff decide as summer plays out. Cutting those doesn't really offer a change

 

[Bri]

Leroy Watson was cut curiously after playing well and a big need for a tackle

 

[Bri]

I do see I misread cap savings for salary but I don't think it's very different with much of that list

I only see NPF as obvious.

Chig needs to be traded or play WR. We can't have a TE that can't block well next to a questionable RT. It's been that way since he arrived and it's time to make a break.

 

[Bri]

I forget Logan Bruss. He played G and T for the Rams and started and....got hurt before he contributed. How great would it be if he filled a spot on the right and was simply average?

 

[Bri]

Abdul Carter is going to rock on third down but I'm not sure he'll play on first and second right away.
Abdul Carter could change the Titans defense so he should go #1. He can play every down from day one.

The difference between those two statements is enormous.
How is he against the run? Can he handle the big bodies wanting to push him around?

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

If the Titans were offered a package for #1 do you take it or do we do Carter?

 

[Bri]

If the Titans were offered a package for #1 do you take it or do we do Carter?

I'm very much interested in a trade down.

I think it's very simple when you have the first pick- the team stinks so they either need a lot of players due to that pick or a star that can make others around him better.
The worst thing a team can do is take a player that busts or is "pretty good."

Some believe Hunter is generational. Then fine take him.
Otherwise, I say trade down unless they wind up loving some prospect in the process.

Like many drafts- people seem to believe 11-100 are strong.
There's significant potential to also trade down in the second.
My thoughts are to gain as many picks in that range as possible. They don't have a third but don't overstate the lack of a third because we've seen that over the years too. They gotta be real smart and savvy.
I sincerely think they should hire someone from FF to counsel them and have long believed an FF person would help a lot on draft day

 

[Bri]

x.com

x.com

That's my guy Greg Cosell praising Shough and having him as #2 QB
Faust has a McShay quote that there aren't four QBs more talented than him.

"7 years in college" so....is he not going to struggle for a couple years? Still struggle some but overcome and look good like the Broncos and Pats QBs?

Cosell mentions his finer points and others do the same. Don't we want a QB that has learned all the nitpicky things?

So Brian Callahan is a supposed QB guru and I had to read about all the prior QBs he coached years ago. If this kid is more experienced and learned all these nitpicky things isn't that showing he's coachable? Lengthy work where improvement is seen on tape?

The Draft Network

TDN

www.thedraftnetwork.com

Here's Fowler complaining about how he drives the ball and his lower half mechanics but yet complimenting those in his writeup.

There's a lot like that. Are they trying to say bad things? Maybe they were beaming writing it and felt it was too positive?

I'm pretty sure this kid is gonna be my choice to add. If everyone praises a prospect I'm not hard to convince.

Round 2-4. Fine. Even better. Put the word out and whoever claims they'll take him so do you want to trade- do it. Two prospects at 1,2 and a QB?

This also invites a trade down but admittedly I think everything does. Chance to draft a QB, T and some higher level skill position players too? Do it.

 

[Bri]

If the Titans draft a LT then Ran will have drafted a RT and LG top ten and the praise he received will drop every year in hindsight.

Why is Jahquan Jackson on the team? He was benched on offense and special teams and oh so clearly in the coach's doghouse and why hasn't he been released? Maybe it's 2025 and coach's doghouses is such a passe thing it's ridiculous?

Why isn't Chestnut released if despite everyone loving the guy, he was not entrusted to carry the ball but a few token times?

Why is NPF still there? Benched replaced benched on and on...

They have no value since the NFL knows this. Why bring any negativity to a new off-season? Guys will become friends and workout together and why wait til they bond and wreck it?
New GM shouldn't need to know any more than the coach doesn't like these guys

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

Jackson is cheaper to release post 6/1

 

[Bri]

Titans GM and coach questioned at Combine.
Right now I don't think there's much new to even post here.
Everyone seems to be twisting comments to be towards their favorite prospects but many are general.

Borgonzi didn't have an issue with Sheduer's arm and brought up anticipation as a general response

 

[Bri]

This is well done
It's all ya need. They just don't know right now and are working the process.
Watch this and kind of shush those wanting something to react to.
They're just not at a point yet

https://x.com/RapSheet/status/1894530560845869204/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1894530560845869204&currentTweetUser=RapSheet

 

[Bri]

Ran spending 80-100 mil last off-season and the Titans becoming the worst team seemed to be a common theme.
If Latham moves to the right, he had bad drafts too.

Welp finally the NFL world is recognizing it. Cats out of the bag, whatever expression, let's move on now.

Where is the $?
Oh geez ok we can't move on and this will linger.

Ran essentially signed Wentz of Watson to too big a deal; maybe the ol Redskins or Jaguars spending a ton of money to barely get to .500. It IS one of the worst free agent spending in recent history and I guess this stuff is going to linger.

What came out of it- the new GM fighting off questions of how he'll recoup some money with non-answers and then saying there are possibilities. He didn't name names! But reporters ran with this cracking under the pressure answers anyway.

Landry is a common theme.
Many suggesting Pollard and Hooker.

I've already suggested these guys and also pointed out- well ya gotta have players too though.

This is the point they're at. Cut this guy, welp now ya got dead cap and didn't at all save his whole salary. People seem to think if they cut someone making suppose 15mil then they have 15 mil to spend. They don't. It's more like 5-10 plus the dead money. Trading is the only way this happens.

There's a slew of players that I guess they're just stuck with. Last night and this morning the articles are pouring out and...ya gotta take them with a big grain of salt.

 

[Bri]

My favorite concept today is just leave the defense alone and add offensive talent.

Yep, they were tops for most of the season. K.I.S.S.

I'm also not so sure this overly simple premise won't work. So many defenders are youthful players anyway.

 

[Bri]

Borgonzi mentioned lots of positions.

He didn't mention WR which is odd but maybe he just didn't mention because it's so obvious.

He talked of DL often which is probably what I was saying earlier. Ya can't ignore that if they add a top DL to Big Jeff and Sweat then OMG would they be a force. I'd rather they spend elsewhere since the line does very well already but yep I've thought it too.

 

[Bri]

Schefter has that Landry has been given permission to seek a trade.
Vrabel would take him surely but want a sizable discount or minimal pick.

He's older and there's no shine to that

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

Is there any legal obligation to trade him? Clearly it's better to get a pick for him but if we can't find a trade partner we could just release him post 6/1

 

[Bri]

Is there any legal obligation to trade him? Clearly it's better to get a pick for him but if we can't find a trade partner we could just release him post 6/1

Yes true

 

[Penguin]

Not a local but I'm of the opinion the Titans either take Carter or trade down if they get a sweetheart deal

 

[Mitchie]

uh-oh, was also thinking Carter or trade down, but this may throw a wrench in things...

Abdul Carter injury: Top NFL Draft prospect has foot injury, still considering surgery, agent says

Carter is No. 2 in CBS Sports' prospect rankings, behind only Colorado's Travis Hunter

www.cbssports.com

 

[-OZ-]

My favorite concept today is just leave the defense alone and add offensive talent.

The problem is that the best talent in the draft is defense. If they can trade back, is McMillan worth drafting at 3 if Carter or Hunter are there? (In this scenario the giants traded up for sanders or ward)

 

[King of the Jungle]

My favorite concept today is just leave the defense alone and add offensive talent.

The problem is that the best talent in the draft is defense. If they can trade back, is McMillan worth drafting at 3 if Carter or Hunter are there? (In this scenario the giants traded up for sanders or ward)

Tet at three seems like a reach, but I do not view him as a blue chip prospect. If the Titans are not enamored by a QB selection their best option would be to continue to trade down and gather as many picks as possible imo.

 

[Bri]

My favorite concept today is just leave the defense alone and add offensive talent.

The problem is that the best talent in the draft is defense. If they can trade back, is McMillan worth drafting at 3 if Carter or Hunter are there? (In this scenario the giants traded up for sanders or ward)

I get that. Good point.
I think I'd trade back twice then, take Jeanty and let that kid try to be their next 2k yard back.
I'd also probably lose the 'offense only' thought at that point too though because now I have a lot of picks. Hypocritical some but I'd be a whole lot of offense still. They're just so lacking.


I keep evolving or changing or some word about Hunter. Solomon Wilcox says "what happens when he gets hurt because he's gonna get hurt. They have him only play one position." He goes on to explain he's talking dings and oh well if it's more serious I'm definitely thinking one position. I think he's got a real good point.

I think I'd rather Jeanty and a lot of picks than Hunter and six more.

Suppose one trade back because I may be adding too much FF into the NFL with that concept- and Carter or Hunter.
They "have to" either sign a free agent tackle or draft one with their second round pick.
Where's the QB? Third round? Carr?
Still need a WR and is that a fourth round starter?

It quickly degrades with all the needs and it's really challenging to think through and fill them. I wish we knew what they added in free agency now so we can discuss that

 

[Bri]

My favorite concept today is just leave the defense alone and add offensive talent.

The problem is that the best talent in the draft is defense. If they can trade back, is McMillan worth drafting at 3 if Carter or Hunter are there? (In this scenario the giants traded up for sanders or ward)

Tet at three seems like a reach, but I do not view him as a blue chip prospect. If the Titans are not enamored by a QB selection their best option would be to continue to trade down and gather as many picks as possible imo.

I have concern that people are describing some busts when they write about him. I don't see it. I didn't watch him so much as he was often a highlights guy. Some YouTubes of plays don't show me anything concerning other than there can be too long between plays. I guess I haven't made my mind up on him.
I don't think he's a three. I think he's 7-10. I think Oz was just saying yeah but what if.

 

[Bri]

uh-oh, was also thinking Carter or trade down, but this may throw a wrench in things...

Abdul Carter injury: Top NFL Draft prospect has foot injury, still considering surgery, agent says

Carter is No. 2 in CBS Sports' prospect rankings, behind only Colorado's Travis Hunter

www.cbssports.com

He's got some issues against the run (and a shoulder that no one seems concerned about) and I think it's fair to ding him a little then.

Yesterday they were talking of a Texas A&M kid on Sirius and I enjoyed the interview. I did a bunch of reading at work in spots and I'm liking him a lot ATM. The Freeney spin move that Freeney's old coach taught him, the talk of not letting hands touch him that he learned from watching TJ Watt. I really liked how coachable and learn on his own he seemed. I got a great vibe.
20 years old and people praise his athleticism.

So he's late first or second and
Here's an example-

Nic Scourton Defensive End - EDGE Texas A&M | NFL Draft Profile & Scouting Report

Rating: 87.3 Rank: #10 Forty: 4.70 Scourton's blend of size, explosiveness, and technical refinement projects him as an immediate contributor in a 4-3 defensive front where his natural power...

www.nfldraftbuzz.com

The weakness against the run has been common for every Edge. So how do you gauge that?

My prob is every writeup is glowing but then he's like 8-12 edge or DL. Umm no! If you shine that much he's higher. That's just how we all do it.

Why is ESPN so much lower?

I can't stand the needs a counter critique this year. It's too common. Does anyone have a counter move when the T reacted well? We're talking 2.5 to 3 seconds to get to the QB and why does every writer have the DL having so much time to make a second move?

But this guy finishes up saying maybe pro bowl by year three. That's a good pick then. He'd be how old? Other sites have him needing time to adjust to NFL game (which umm everyone does) and ...I need to come back to this kid. I feel I'm too positive.

No one is giving me tangible negatives that alter his ranking.

So I read of some other edges and more glowing being done. Do we really need Carter if there's a plethora of gems? I get more thoughts of trade down, take two, and switch to 4-3 nah they can play on nickel.

It's really odd how many are supposedly special and (maybe what Oz was leaning towards) well maybe the Titans are fools if they don't get one.

I clearly haven't finished a thought here. What do you think? Big Jeff and Sweat are clearly dominant already.

 

[-OZ-]

My favorite concept today is just leave the defense alone and add offensive talent.

The problem is that the best talent in the draft is defense. If they can trade back, is McMillan worth drafting at 3 if Carter or Hunter are there? (In this scenario the giants traded up for sanders or ward)

I get that. Good point.
I think I'd trade back twice then, take Jeanty and let that kid try to be their next 2k yard back.
I'd also probably lose the 'offense only' thought at that point too though because now I have a lot of picks. Hypocritical some but I'd be a whole lot of offense still. They're just so lacking.


I keep evolving or changing or some word about Hunter. Solomon Wilcox says "what happens when he gets hurt because he's gonna get hurt. They have him only play one position." He goes on to explain he's talking dings and oh well if it's more serious I'm definitely thinking one position. I think he's got a real good point.

I think I'd rather Jeanty and a lot of picks than Hunter and six more.

Suppose one trade back because I may be adding too much FF into the NFL with that concept- and Carter or Hunter.
They "have to" either sign a free agent tackle or draft one with their second round pick.
Where's the QB? Third round? Carr?
Still need a WR and is that a fourth round starter?

It quickly degrades with all the needs and it's really challenging to think through and fill them. I wish we knew what they added in free agency now so we can discuss that

as much as jeanty can be great, haven’t we seen that an elite RB can push a really good team into greatness, but without that team around him, a back isn’t going to make a huge difference?
I just don’t see the titans close enough to make jeanty a good pick.
In a dream, won’t happen scenario - trade back to 3, then again to the 7-10 range where the broncos trade up from 20 to get Peyton’s next kamara. Or maybe the jets trade up to 1 then we trade back again to 20. Load up in 26.

 

[Bri]

Conor Hughes on PKs show giving a lot of credence to the Giants trading with the Titans.

Browns wanting to trade up is pretty strong right now too. (Mary Kay and Grossi)

Hughes pointed out Giants have been spending time on Sanders since the season before and he's not certain -as some- that Sanders is their guy but he understands it.

(Soooo my double trade becomes possible )

 

[Bri]

There's like a million rumors.
If some reporter we all know gives some good basis then I'm sharing. The two above were it for me.
I can't keep track of them all at the moment.
""""
Right now there's probably 31 rumors of trading up to one.
Bear with me here or if you think one is pretty credible then post it.
We gotta do some weeding out and I'm figuring usual SP rules.
*****
Spears and Burks being cut or traded isn't a rumor. The GM said the same thing as Vrabel said then Callahan said his version- oft injured players will be made available. That's normal.

People jumped to reasonable conclusions from that quote. It just is what it is.

 

[Bri]

Callahan praised Rudolph. Something like-second QB is an important position and he led well and was great in the room.
Borgonzi said he's heard good things.

One reporter came back at Borgonzi after setting up a Levis or Rudolph question. He said one is under contract, one is not. First time I saw the New GM with a sigh or "cmon" vibe answering a question.

 

[Bri]

"Abdul Carter could test 4.3 speed and if so would be one of the better prospects of the last ten years"
His ankle/foot stress fracture was never going to have surgery. That's uncommon. Would you?
It seems he will rest after pro day and trainers will get a plan for him to RICE and he should be fine.
*****
Ed McCaffrey said same thing I have a prob with every year. 32 teams docs don't need to meet with every prospect for a myriad of reasons and it's just beneath tortuous to have 32 docs bend an injury this way and that way to form their own opinion.
I have no problem giving some injured guy a tenth of a second or two on their forty time if they just went through that and ran.
Also, idk that I'd blame them if they decided to sit out the 40 or bench press or something related to "y'all made me sore just before it."

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

Both Burks and Levis' contracts make them unappealing to trade or cut and it's very very unlikely anyone would trade for them anyways.

 

[Bri]

"Abdul Carter could test 4.3 speed and if so would be one of the better prospects of the last ten years"
His ankle/foot stress fracture was never going to have surgery. That's uncommon. Would you?
It seems he will rest after pro day and trainers will get a plan for him to RICE and he should be fine.
*****
Ed McCaffrey said same thing I have a prob with every year. 32 teams docs don't need to meet with every prospect for a myriad of reasons and it's just beneath tortuous to have 32 docs bend an injury this way and that way to form their own opinion.
I have no problem giving some injured guy a tenth of a second or two on their forty time if they just went through that and ran.
Also, idk that I'd blame them if they decided to sit out the 40 or bench press or something related to "y'all made me sore just before it."

https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1894969765954765045

Rosenhaus literally said "would you" on the radio.
Schefty is not offering an opinion here just laying out options.

The prob with other reporters and tweeters is us regular humans have experienced some things. We know stress fractures and docs examinations.

Ryan Tannehill's surgery was related to the ligaments around an often sprained ankle and is not the same as bone injuries.

I'm on high alert for rumors and I think I've properly left a ton out this morning

 

[Bri]

Two time All American safety named Xavier supposedly the Titans were so intrigued by him that it caught people's eyes.
I'm good with human reactions judging people's faces. Way more comfortable with this than rumors.
I know some people here don't care for it but my opinion is there's 300 kids and if a coach and GMs face lights up and big smiles over one- I wanna know that happened.
Everything else could be poker faces. At least it's a sincere reaction

 

[Bri]

Jordan Palmer has been gushing about Kyle McCord.

Kyle McCord Draft and Combine Prospect Profile | NFL.com

This is very meh.

I don't know if this is significant but here's a hmmm-
Was "Carson's brother" and sort of made a name for himself as a coach for developing Josh Allen.
He worked with Levis last off-season predraft and it would eventually come out that Levis didn't show but a few days during the time he was supposed to. 2 3 weeks maybe? The Titans all but assigned Levis to work with Jordan.

When he says McCord is the most pro ready QB he's worked with and explains his gushing reasoning....
I pause and wait a sec you work with Levis?

Googling, many have him rising and ace-ing interviews. Ok fine.

Where is this kid really? What do you think?

If I smush together reports, he's got leadership and poise but a lot mention what Lance does- he needs to be coached to release quicker and his decisions have to be NOT to force things.

Syracuse was kind of back on the map lately in college football and that's about all I know of them.

Palmer and Callahan are friends so tell me more about McCord because we can guarantee they're at least having a conversation about him.

 

[Ray_T]

well I think the Titans shouldnt box themselves into any specific scenario. There is a lot of time yet.

but Trading down should be an option they consider. The good news is.... if they are moving back only one or two picks they can ask the team who they plan to take and plan around that. so if they wanted one of the other top 3 or 4 prospects they can likely still get their guy.

 

[Bri]

https://x.com/RossTuckerPod/status/1895821323802476785/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1895821323802476785&currentTweetUser=RossTuckerPod

Cosell seems a bit stumped on McCord too

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

this is what it says "Good backup with the potential to develop into starter" So its going to be a hard no unless he's like a 6th round pick or something low.

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

Here's what I'm thinking right now. The Giants will trade up to get Sanders. Browns will go Ward. So the question is Hunter or Carter. Should I/we be worried about an injured Carter? On one hand, no since he'll heal and be fine. On the other hand, it's like "lets not buy damaged goods." So I guess now I'm at Hunter is the best bang for the buck. Even if we get a Rodgers/Adams package our WR corps is thin. 2 30+ WRS means we need to start thinking of the future, this would also allow Hunter to play mostly CB for the next year or 2 depending on how long Adams and Ridley stick around and we can use Hunter as our 3rd/4th WR.

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

or like you say, move Chig to WR and we trot out a Ridley/Adams/Hunter/Chig/Burks group. So I guess Whyle and Martin-Robinson would be our TE group assuming we don't resign Vannet.

 

[Bri]

It's like everyone I know texted me about someone from the Titans and Tyler Shough. We've gotta work up a draft scenario that includes him for our discussions here.

It's difficult because the round projections for him are literally the whole draft with fan sites claiming first and more reputable 3rd to 7th but supposedly his stock went way up.

Cosell bragged about him again and so did other name film reviewers. I think if I were running an NFL personnel dept, I might say "hey go re-watch this kid" because of them. Not to say they hold NFL influence but the well respected highest ones probably do have NFL GMs pause for a sec.

 

[Bri]

this is what it says "Good backup with the potential to develop into starter" So its going to be a hard no unless he's like a 6th round pick or something low.

But he brings up a good point that he's brought up for many years now.
We get enamored with athleticism and pocket presence and intelligence almost pushes guys down.
The system or the way we all think doesn't really work if Peyton is first and Brady is sixth round. Everyone that discussed this point acknowledged it's a stretch but at the same time we're still at this point too.
We praise athleticism and potential then say how this n that needs to be coached up.

What do you do with the well drilled guys?

I think it's that we see a super athlete and if he'd just fix his release or feet or something then we add to his potential like here's the fix.

Is that correct? That's usually the make it or break it quality. If Richardson CAN then he'll...but what if he doesn't?

I think it was Miller pointing out that Mahomes was negatively criticized for his backyard style and now teams are praising Ward for off balance throws. So this is a positive now?

Every coach at their base desires wants a coachable kid and some of these unexciting pocket guys appear to be especially coachable good kids. Where's the model for a good player? Why does it have to be boom bust?

 

[Bri]

Here's what I'm thinking right now. The Giants will trade up to get Sanders. Browns will go Ward. So the question is Hunter or Carter. Should I/we be worried about an injured Carter? On one hand, no since he'll heal and be fine. On the other hand, it's like "lets not buy damaged goods." So I guess now I'm at Hunter is the best bang for the buck. Even if we get a Rodgers/Adams package our WR corps is thin. 2 30+ WRS means we need to start thinking of the future, this would also allow Hunter to play mostly CB for the next year or 2 depending on how long Adams and Ridley stick around and we can use Hunter as our 3rd/4th WR.

I don't want it.
They're both washed up.
I didn't like watching Andre and Julio old and I won't like watching Davante too I'm sure.
It's like when I gotta give my dog those hip pills. I love you and this is a little sad.

I was entertained by Rodgers but then his stuff became stale.

I just don't see the gain.
Are they going to mentor a young QB and WR? I could buy into that easily. I just got this "what do we really gain" vibe.

 

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This site projects him as a day 2 pick and says "Adequate Starter"

This site likens him to Kenny Picket.

 

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Here's what I'm thinking right now. The Giants will trade up to get Sanders. Browns will go Ward. So the question is Hunter or Carter. Should I/we be worried about an injured Carter? On one hand, no since he'll heal and be fine. On the other hand, it's like "lets not buy damaged goods." So I guess now I'm at Hunter is the best bang for the buck. Even if we get a Rodgers/Adams package our WR corps is thin. 2 30+ WRS means we need to start thinking of the future, this would also allow Hunter to play mostly CB for the next year or 2 depending on how long Adams and Ridley stick around and we can use Hunter as our 3rd/4th WR.

I don't want it.
They're both washed up.
I didn't like watching Andre and Julio old and I won't like watching Davante too I'm sure.
It's like when I gotta give my dog those hip pills. I love you and this is a little sad.

I was entertained by Rodgers but then his stuff became stale.

I just don't see the gain.
Are they going to mentor a young QB and WR? I could buy into that easily. I just got this "what do we really gain" vibe.

Pass big time on bringing Rodgers Adams in. That reeks of desperation to keep a job and doesn’t help the franchise.