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Radio today is how Borgonzi likes freakish OL and the Titans haven't drafted athletes.
They have.
Last time I counted it was 13 of 15 OL that were former Ts.
They're always saying or about saying "give him time to adjust."
Someone has to play now. This is not JV.
One site that has scouts write of NFL teams continually points out that they develop bad habits before they're established. I believe this to be true of alot of positions.
Some coach can say this better but learn the positions technique, adjust and learn, repetition. Then learn nuances and reaffirm technique. Make mistakes and reaffirm technique. Drill drill drill until you can do it in your sleep. Then play.
That whole process is always interrupted like thrown to the wolves.
They need to draft a G to play G, a TE to play TE, a LB to play LB etc.
I'm fine with projects and trying to convert some and...this is a fine tactic but in the meantime ya need guys to play now
They have.
Last time I counted it was 13 of 15 OL that were former Ts.
They're always saying or about saying "give him time to adjust."
Someone has to play now. This is not JV.
One site that has scouts write of NFL teams continually points out that they develop bad habits before they're established. I believe this to be true of alot of positions.
Some coach can say this better but learn the positions technique, adjust and learn, repetition. Then learn nuances and reaffirm technique. Make mistakes and reaffirm technique. Drill drill drill until you can do it in your sleep. Then play.
That whole process is always interrupted like thrown to the wolves.
They need to draft a G to play G, a TE to play TE, a LB to play LB etc.
I'm fine with projects and trying to convert some and...this is a fine tactic but in the meantime ya need guys to play now
Brinker was all nice and professional and all about Ran and...lot of positive.
He said they won't pass on a generational prospect at 1.
Calculated statement about Hunter?
I see people going overboard about what he said about Levis but "competing for a starting job" is expected of every player as is "hope he continues to develop." The guy was all smiley and loved being in the radio/video for what I guess is the first time. You couldn't miss the air let out of the room when he discussed Levis. I heard nothing new there at all
He said they won't pass on a generational prospect at 1.
Calculated statement about Hunter?
I see people going overboard about what he said about Levis but "competing for a starting job" is expected of every player as is "hope he continues to develop." The guy was all smiley and loved being in the radio/video for what I guess is the first time. You couldn't miss the air let out of the room when he discussed Levis. I heard nothing new there at all
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You are not wrong. but management always has to have 2 hats on at once. one hat looks out for the team and its performance today. when wearing the other hat you are keeping an eye out for the future.
its all a big balancing act. likely the reason why some good assistant coaches dont make good head coaches. competing priorities and likely dealing with an eccentric GM or owner can be a lot to balance out and still keep a good product on the field.
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Mel Kipper has us drafting Ward over Humter in his mock. Would you rather have Hunter?
bleacherreport.com
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Mel Kiper 2025 NFL Mock Draft: Cam Ward, Travis Hunter, Shedeur Sanders Lead Top 10
ESPN NFL draft guru Mel Kiper Jr. projected two quarterbacks to come off the board in the first three picks as part of his first 2025 NFL mock draft, which…
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It's like we've been saying. Some of the draft guys have the QBs rated as second round picks. That's an uneasy thing.Mel Kiper has us drafting Ward over Humter in his mock. Would you rather have Hunter?
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Mel Kiper 2025 NFL Mock Draft: Cam Ward, Travis Hunter, Shedeur Sanders Lead Top 10
ESPN NFL draft guru Mel Kiper Jr. projected two quarterbacks to come off the board in the first three picks as part of his first 2025 NFL mock draft, which…
Carter can't play every down according to some.
Jeanty should be later because the NFL market is soooo weird about RBs.
McMillan should go later because....I'm not sure. Maybe it's a #2 vibe but the tools of a #1WR like Ridley?
No tackles or DL worthy of the top pick.
Sooo despite the Titans curiously loaded at CB I guess yeah you draft the only true star in Hunter.
Hunter does seem special- no doubt- but the draft doesn't seem to be.
In time, usually GMs and writers fall in love with prospects and things change. Today the draft isn't exciting
Abdul Carter has risen up to 1 and 2 with Hunter still around.
At a time when everyone is thirsting for QB content and draft writers feed that ...
Titans will either have the best DL in football, best CB room, or trade down.
It's like "fine!" in an I'll take it manner but I wish so much differently.
At a time when everyone is thirsting for QB content and draft writers feed that ...
Titans will either have the best DL in football, best CB room, or trade down.
It's like "fine!" in an I'll take it manner but I wish so much differently.
An example of me saying Callahan is the most open honest and available coach ever- he did an hour and a half interview. Who does that?
I will probably have time today to listen to the rest.
What I have listened to was just a lot of him owning his mistakes but he's been great about that all season.
I will probably have time today to listen to the rest.
What I have listened to was just a lot of him owning his mistakes but he's been great about that all season.
The Reggie McKenzie hire I'm not sure I like.
The Dolphins picked up Lamm and Brewer and started them and wondered why their offense fell apart. Our line stunk and they thought "let's start their castoffs?"
Radio said how he should help with the OL issues.
Did they hire the wrong guy?
McKenzie drafted Derek Carr and saw him lead the Raiders to the playoffs.
The rumors of signing Derek (usually along w Cousins or Rodgers) get a bit of juice from this.
Ziegler is another former GM. He worked with Brinker for the Packers.
At this point, I am wondering what Brinker's deal is with the triumvirate system and are they near a (whatever five is)umvirate?
I had said they very much wanted to promote from within and always do so and that was a huge deal to the Adams family. So now I think Brinker has at least assured that that probably happens next time a GM replacement is needed.
The Dolphins picked up Lamm and Brewer and started them and wondered why their offense fell apart. Our line stunk and they thought "let's start their castoffs?"
Radio said how he should help with the OL issues.
Did they hire the wrong guy?
McKenzie drafted Derek Carr and saw him lead the Raiders to the playoffs.
The rumors of signing Derek (usually along w Cousins or Rodgers) get a bit of juice from this.
Ziegler is another former GM. He worked with Brinker for the Packers.
At this point, I am wondering what Brinker's deal is with the triumvirate system and are they near a (whatever five is)umvirate?
I had said they very much wanted to promote from within and always do so and that was a huge deal to the Adams family. So now I think Brinker has at least assured that that probably happens next time a GM replacement is needed.
5 realistic NFL draft trade scenarios for Tennessee Titans' No. 1 pick
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Which scenario do you prefer? If they were to trade
rzrback77
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I am not a draft guru at all, but if the Titans could get a solid OL prospect at #7, I like the acquisition of Garrett Wilson and next year's Jets first round pick.
Don't see a massive uptick for the Titans next year and also highly doubt that the Jets make an instant turnaround. Therefore you would have two very high picks next year to get the QB.
Don't see a massive uptick for the Titans next year and also highly doubt that the Jets make an instant turnaround. Therefore you would have two very high picks next year to get the QB.
That was the one I liked too
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If only there were a QB worth that this year. That’s an easy accept imo.
sounds about right to me. it doesnt seem like a super exciting draft. That said... its a bit early to see hype. some players will get some hype. but there are not many players that people have been waiting on to turn pro.
I guess we shall see. It may not be a good year to be finishing at the bottom.
I had no idea Tyler Elgersma existed til two days ago. Some scouts raving then Pollian was on Sirius then the next guy and next guy.
I've heard enough.
Lock him up! 6th round? Done. Next pick. No more thought to it.
His story of Canadian football not being good, don't even necessarily play in their own pro leagues after college, hunting down coaches to learn to do everything right- followed by all the scouts raving of all the footwork and hips and release stuff...ok I'm good.
He speaks and everything out of his mouth is about hardwork and studying with credit to coaches or parents or teammates.
A kid with a great attitude that doesn't have to learn technique but maybe the complexity of the game would be oh so welcome.
Does he even really need to be in the draft? This isn't the NBA.
Sign him now!
I'm not listening to those coach praise interviews, I've heard enough. Don't lose him in the 7th. Don't be cute and lose him as a UDFA.
We're all well aware what makes scouts gush like that. Just get it done already!
Edit- to be clear, this will be "our" development guy
I've heard enough.
Lock him up! 6th round? Done. Next pick. No more thought to it.
His story of Canadian football not being good, don't even necessarily play in their own pro leagues after college, hunting down coaches to learn to do everything right- followed by all the scouts raving of all the footwork and hips and release stuff...ok I'm good.
He speaks and everything out of his mouth is about hardwork and studying with credit to coaches or parents or teammates.
A kid with a great attitude that doesn't have to learn technique but maybe the complexity of the game would be oh so welcome.
Does he even really need to be in the draft? This isn't the NBA.
Sign him now!
I'm not listening to those coach praise interviews, I've heard enough. Don't lose him in the 7th. Don't be cute and lose him as a UDFA.
We're all well aware what makes scouts gush like that. Just get it done already!
Edit- to be clear, this will be "our" development guy
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Chris Johnson went to scout school and then learned from Jim Nagy for two months, then was in an apprenticeship program, then (on his own dime) scouted RBs this past college season and had a back n forth with Jim to be sure he's doing it right and would like an NFL team to sign him to scout RBs.
Get it done Titans!
Relatively speaking, you don't pay scouts much. Give him 60k.
Don't...just sign him already
Get it done Titans!
Relatively speaking, you don't pay scouts much. Give him 60k.
Don't...just sign him already
Jordan Palmer is watching Levis tape and working with him this offseason.
So it's not the Willis routine as mentioned but still good he's working with a QB coach.
Oddly short about it- he has some issues were working through.
Kind of inconsequential nothing statement but also what did we expect to hear?
So it's not the Willis routine as mentioned but still good he's working with a QB coach.
Oddly short about it- he has some issues were working through.
Kind of inconsequential nothing statement but also what did we expect to hear?
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I think I agree with rzrback77. Getting Wilson and a first next year sounds good. I am warming to the idea of taking Ward though but maybe it would be much better to just get a vet QB to compete with Levis and draft McMillian and trot out that McMillian, Ridley, Wilson group or maybe take a DT and try to get Higgins.
Like everyone else In sick of Titans draft talk always being QB and always drafting a Tackle in the first and yet they're continuous needs.
This Grey Zabel T/G prospect that everyone is raving about from the Senior Bowl...the concept of drafting him is so welcome. I see mid second and third round grades.
In a normal draft, there's quality tackles in the first and maybe high second but after that they get so questionable that it's debatable if they should even be drafted (unless you're a good team for whatever reason) and invest in.
I think there is still some balancing and he could move a lot. Ya can't be THAT confident in a guy playing T or G and put him in the 2nd or 3rd. Maybe he's got negatives that that's just not the time to shine a light on? Anyway, I figure he'll move.
That comfort from a good not first round lineman is really intriguing
This Grey Zabel T/G prospect that everyone is raving about from the Senior Bowl...the concept of drafting him is so welcome. I see mid second and third round grades.
In a normal draft, there's quality tackles in the first and maybe high second but after that they get so questionable that it's debatable if they should even be drafted (unless you're a good team for whatever reason) and invest in.
I think there is still some balancing and he could move a lot. Ya can't be THAT confident in a guy playing T or G and put him in the 2nd or 3rd. Maybe he's got negatives that that's just not the time to shine a light on? Anyway, I figure he'll move.
That comfort from a good not first round lineman is really intriguing
Company line is they still have faith in him.
Common view is they don't and coach put Rudolph in.
It doesn't seem like they have confidence. More dismissive than excited at Senior bowl
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I think conventional wisdom says that after 3 years of Levis he's probably not the guy but the optimistic view is that he improves year 2 under Calahan. Darnold faded down the stretch but it only took 6 years, a good coach and one of the better wr corps but he finally got unlocked. So I guess the question is do you take Ward rd1 or maybe take Hunter/McMillian and Dart in rd2 (if he's still there)
I dont know that he will ever be a great pro QB. I think he has the potential to be an average to slightly above average starting QB. but the ceiling isnt that high and right now his floor is pretty low. so if you feel a QB with a higher ceiling is available you need to at least think about taking him.
but none of the QB's have a ton of hype at this time so you have to think its a weaker QB class. if jumping to the top QB in this class you need to ask yourself.... is this a situation a young QB can perform in?
PFN rankings (link below) have the Titans o line ranked #30. these guys arent the best o- line ranking site around but they are overall decent.
NFL Offensive Line Rankings 2025: Insights Into All 32 OLs | PFSN
Our NFL Offensive Line rankings break down all 32 units using our OL+ metric. Where do the Chiefs and Eagles rank ahead of Super Bowl 59?
www.profootballnetwork.com
To that end, you are putting a QB into a situation where they will be running for their lives. Not a great place to learn.
so while I do think the shine has left Levis, I dont know that a rookie in a weak draft class would flourish here.
I'd say clean up the O line issues before taking a QB. When you do draft a QB you need to be able to put them in a position where they have a chance to be successful.
Tend to agree, one of the worst things franchise can do is force a QB pick, that said and guess stating the obvious will come down to their evaluation of the QBs, flip side is you don't want to pass on a franchise QB.I dont know that he will ever be a great pro QB. I think he has the potential to be an average to slightly above average starting QB. but the ceiling isnt that high and right now his floor is pretty low. so if you feel a QB with a higher ceiling is available you need to at least think about taking him.
but none of the QB's have a ton of hype at this time so you have to think its a weaker QB class. if jumping to the top QB in this class you need to ask yourself.... is this a situation a young QB can perform in?
PFN rankings (link below) have the Titans o line ranked #30. these guys arent the best o- line ranking site around but they are overall decent.
NFL Offensive Line Rankings 2025: Insights Into All 32 OLs | PFSN
Our NFL Offensive Line rankings break down all 32 units using our OL+ metric. Where do the Chiefs and Eagles rank ahead of Super Bowl 59?
To that end, you are putting a QB into a situation where they will be running for their lives. Not a great place to learn.
so while I do think the shine has left Levis, I dont know that a rookie in a weak draft class would flourish here.
I'd say clean up the O line issues before taking a QB. When you do draft a QB you need to be able to put them in a position where they have a chance to be successful.
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I read a few mocks and most seem to have them taking Ward/Hunter/Carter. Our own site has them at 28th. I agree with you guys that you need a solid oline for QB success (see Chicago)
I don't like the Saints trade articles and the number of people saying it has some likelihood have me either questioning the Titans or the Saints reporters.
What do they have?
RB stuff-
Ran lied about trying to trade Henry then backtracked and claimed he was doing him a service as a beloved player. I pointed this out after the ESPN interview came out Nov Dec 2023.
Yes Pollard and Henry make about the same.
Yes I also think Pollard isn't a complete back and they need (Chestnut or) a powerback or even a fullback to supplement him.
Everyone is aware that Callahan loves Pollard and yet teammates aren't as adoring. They like the guy, they just lost the King. They say nice things and support him. Totally garbage to think anything negative. It's just human nature after a legend. Next year he'll probably get his due.
I think Kamara is on borrowed time. I've been a huge fan of his but it seems like it's been for a decade and there is no way he is this perfect match for the Titans and going to command big trade value.
I don't care that many Saints notable reporters suggest it. I'm not buying it one bit.
What do they have?
RB stuff-
Ran lied about trying to trade Henry then backtracked and claimed he was doing him a service as a beloved player. I pointed this out after the ESPN interview came out Nov Dec 2023.
Yes Pollard and Henry make about the same.
Yes I also think Pollard isn't a complete back and they need (Chestnut or) a powerback or even a fullback to supplement him.
Everyone is aware that Callahan loves Pollard and yet teammates aren't as adoring. They like the guy, they just lost the King. They say nice things and support him. Totally garbage to think anything negative. It's just human nature after a legend. Next year he'll probably get his due.
I think Kamara is on borrowed time. I've been a huge fan of his but it seems like it's been for a decade and there is no way he is this perfect match for the Titans and going to command big trade value.
I don't care that many Saints notable reporters suggest it. I'm not buying it one bit.
The Shedeur Burrow comparisons don't land with me. I didn't watch him regularly but what I've seen doesn't at all make me think Burrow. Burrow has that Montana Marino insane nerve to stand in the pocket, stay focused, and throw and oh btw there were defenders about to tackle him.
I'm a little concerned Callahan is reaching with his comparison comments.
ATM I'm a bit on Aaron Brooks for comparison. Are any of you old enough to remember him? (Trying to tag Oz but failing)
I'm a little concerned Callahan is reaching with his comparison comments.
ATM I'm a bit on Aaron Brooks for comparison. Are any of you old enough to remember him? (Trying to tag Oz but failing)
Trying not to post repeated stuff. It gets difficult in the off-season but...I'm trying-
Borgonzi saying how they could move Latham to RT if the right prospect emerges would make Ran's two top picks very poor draft value. Since there were a slew of immediate Titans comments that he could be a LT for a long time it would make me question some things.
Borgonzi has said several times that they will build through the draft. He's not against signing free agents but it has been a common answer to several questions. The guy is surely making a point
Quote from atoz-
"We have some holes to fill on the offensive line, that will be No.1.
...and then just depth level across the whole team right now. Creating competition is going to be the biggest thing, whether it's through free agency, through the draft. There might be a guy that we sign off the street, a workout guy, but we want to build the fronts first, offensive and defensive line, and then build depth along the perimeter."
Quarterback was talked about a ton. Every reporter seemed to ask him. Don't read that as "not the QB." He talked of Mahomes. Callahan talked of Burrow. The importance of finding a franchise player etc.
He's got a unique style as you can see in that quote. He's not adding starters or backups. He's adding competition. I guess if they sign a RT and NPF gets cut, it'll be presented as soandso won the competition. Whether he keeps saying that all summer doesn't matter to me. He's showing his mindset and trying to change mindsets in the organization.
Borgonzi saying how they could move Latham to RT if the right prospect emerges would make Ran's two top picks very poor draft value. Since there were a slew of immediate Titans comments that he could be a LT for a long time it would make me question some things.
Borgonzi has said several times that they will build through the draft. He's not against signing free agents but it has been a common answer to several questions. The guy is surely making a point
Quote from atoz-
"We have some holes to fill on the offensive line, that will be No.1.
...and then just depth level across the whole team right now. Creating competition is going to be the biggest thing, whether it's through free agency, through the draft. There might be a guy that we sign off the street, a workout guy, but we want to build the fronts first, offensive and defensive line, and then build depth along the perimeter."
Quarterback was talked about a ton. Every reporter seemed to ask him. Don't read that as "not the QB." He talked of Mahomes. Callahan talked of Burrow. The importance of finding a franchise player etc.
He's got a unique style as you can see in that quote. He's not adding starters or backups. He's adding competition. I guess if they sign a RT and NPF gets cut, it'll be presented as soandso won the competition. Whether he keeps saying that all summer doesn't matter to me. He's showing his mindset and trying to change mindsets in the organization.
I don't like Callahan's doghouse. They're just not good enough to be doing that and it's passe. Move on or coach em up.
It's probably because he was raised by an old coach n all but he's gotta stop that stuff.
Also, cutting, starting, cutting, starting a right tackle was pathetic mismanagement. Maybe a backup needed to go? The fact that their starter was still available to be picked up was not a good sign either.
He's often said there's a lot of things he'd do differently from year one. I hope this stuff is what he wants to change
It's probably because he was raised by an old coach n all but he's gotta stop that stuff.
Also, cutting, starting, cutting, starting a right tackle was pathetic mismanagement. Maybe a backup needed to go? The fact that their starter was still available to be picked up was not a good sign either.
He's often said there's a lot of things he'd do differently from year one. I hope this stuff is what he wants to change
yeah, they could fill the QB slot. they have a high enough draft pick.
but if they trade back and take an OT and maybe take a Guard in round 2 they could be in good shape another year or two from now.
a first round OT may be a plug and play guy or could take up to a year to make an impact. but a 2nd round guard likely takes a year or two until he makes an impact.
so if they go this route they could look at signing someone who maybe only has one or two good years left and he could mentor the two kids they draft.
then next year, they could look at maybe taking a QB. if the line is that terrible, maybe they sit that QB for half of his rookie year. but if the line has improved, maybe they play the kid. but that feels like a reasonable plan. Not sure if thats the direction the titans are going, but if they take a tackle in round 1 then it feels like this might be where they are at.
My biggest issue is what Rudolph illustrated wonderfully.
An inexperienced QB being sacked way more often than a veteran QB because the veteran QB calls out protections presnap.
Often times the sacks were fast with the young QB and took some time with the veteran. There were some games that it wasn't evident in the sack stats but the time to throw was still a notable difference.
It's not like I'm happy to then be discussing WRs not getting open but us Titans fans know too well that that's the next step in this process.
Since we have now seen rookie QBs get this done then the Titans need to...
Draft smarter QBs?
More aware linemen?
It's been consistent thru different staffs so idk what it is but I'm so tired of it.
A lot of sports is I've got this guy, you've got that guy. Some aspect of this isn't unique to football. An unaccounted for player is just a simple bad job by someone.
It's not even common that the announcers say how the defense schemed to sneak this defender past them. I can empathize with a young QB with that but it almost never happens.
I don't know how to fix it but the coaches sure should.
The VR training has me figuring they could easily coach it up somehow and then drill this til the QB and OL are all locked in as a cohesive unit.
I'm very tired of this issue. I think I can go back to rookie Marcus. Fix it already
An inexperienced QB being sacked way more often than a veteran QB because the veteran QB calls out protections presnap.
Often times the sacks were fast with the young QB and took some time with the veteran. There were some games that it wasn't evident in the sack stats but the time to throw was still a notable difference.
It's not like I'm happy to then be discussing WRs not getting open but us Titans fans know too well that that's the next step in this process.
Since we have now seen rookie QBs get this done then the Titans need to...
Draft smarter QBs?
More aware linemen?
It's been consistent thru different staffs so idk what it is but I'm so tired of it.
A lot of sports is I've got this guy, you've got that guy. Some aspect of this isn't unique to football. An unaccounted for player is just a simple bad job by someone.
It's not even common that the announcers say how the defense schemed to sneak this defender past them. I can empathize with a young QB with that but it almost never happens.
I don't know how to fix it but the coaches sure should.
The VR training has me figuring they could easily coach it up somehow and then drill this til the QB and OL are all locked in as a cohesive unit.
I'm very tired of this issue. I think I can go back to rookie Marcus. Fix it already
Survivor Sam Phalen has an interesting take by Dimitroff here
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(TheHuddle) The Tennessee Titans have so many holes in the roster the No. 1 overall pick in the 2025 NFL Draft could be available for trade, according to sources. Tennessee's brass appears open to giving QB Will Levis another shot or adding a quarterback via free agency, with names like Sam Darnold (Vikings) and Justin Fields (Steelers) on the team's radar in March's free agency. ESPN's Dan Graziano speculates the Cleveland Browns, New York Giants, Las Vegas Raiders, and New York Jets all being potential suitors for the No. 1 pick.
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The Jets (IE Aaron Glenn former DC) rumored to be wanting Hendon Hooker just instantly increased Hooker's value. Everyone in the league will notice the guy that practiced against him, let Rodgers walk and wants Hooker.
I don't think it matters if it's true. There's enough noise to have every GM tilting their head at it.
If he fell with the Teddy signing, he just popped back up
For years a Titans fan favorite since his college days.
He's back to being my favorite option.
I would soo much rather waste a third or fourth on him. Maybe even a 2nd if it's a later second than 2.1.
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Cooper Rush was mentioned on the radio as a free agent.
Fine. I'm fine with Rudolph too. A good backup, fine.
Then the host went to starter and said how he led Dallas well leaning on Elliott.
Idk about as a starter.
Brings me to my current gripe-
I don't want someone to "maybe beat out Levis" I want someone to beat out Levis. In no way is Levis the standard unless we're talking that he's a nice guy good teammate.
It's really frustrating when people talk like this.
I don't think it matters if it's true. There's enough noise to have every GM tilting their head at it.
If he fell with the Teddy signing, he just popped back up
For years a Titans fan favorite since his college days.
He's back to being my favorite option.
I would soo much rather waste a third or fourth on him. Maybe even a 2nd if it's a later second than 2.1.
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Cooper Rush was mentioned on the radio as a free agent.
Fine. I'm fine with Rudolph too. A good backup, fine.
Then the host went to starter and said how he led Dallas well leaning on Elliott.
Idk about as a starter.
Brings me to my current gripe-
I don't want someone to "maybe beat out Levis" I want someone to beat out Levis. In no way is Levis the standard unless we're talking that he's a nice guy good teammate.
It's really frustrating when people talk like this.
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It seems like the LAST thing we should do is trade our draft picks unless we trade down from #1 to get a haul. We don't have a 3rd this year unless we trade down/trade up and I doubt the Lions would want anything less than a 3rd. I wish we had some sort of crystal ball to tell us that Ward will be good and we could snap him up @1 or if Hooker would be a solid starter and throwing both 4ths and a 5th at him would be worth it. Me being a risk adverse wimp says go out and get a vet. If Calahan thinks Ward is good and will lead us to the south championship then take him. If we get a haul for #1 and we want to trot out Darnold/Rodgers then ok do that
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