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This site projects him as a day 2 pick and says "Adequate Starter"

This site likens him to Kenny Picket.
Thank you.
There's a good bit of praise there in both.
Felix wrote:
"After studying his full body of work, I'm convinced Shough will outperform his eventual draft position. The combination of size, arm strength, and experience in multiple pro-style concepts provides immediate NFL backup value with clear starter upside. He needs an established offensive system that can refine his mechanics and help him process faster under pressure. But in the right situation with proper development time, Shough has the tools to develop into a quality NFL starter by year two. The tape shows a more talented player than his current Day 2/3 projection indicates."

So let's suppose round three and the Titans traded to get a third just for discussion. Suppose he sits a year as "proper development time" suggested.

Then what?
Add Mason back and whatever happens in 2025 Shough is the guy in 2026?
Hunter or Carter via trade down. Ya got a few mentions of them.
What do you have in two? WR? Tackle? DL?

One more thing- if it's Hunter then you're trading Awuzie right? What moderate medium return would you like?
If it's Carter- then Landry gets cut right? Already seems a strong possibility and that pushes it right? Then do you have to add another Edge still? Plan on Harrell since he had a great camp but very interesting season?
 
If we suppose that NY trades up and Sanders-Ward go 1 and 2. We can take Hunter at 3 and edge in the 2nd. I say this since I got the feeling that edge is a bit deep or I could be misinterpreting things.

Not sure why we'd have to trade Awuzie.
Landry wants out so try to find a trade partner and if not cut him.

As far as QB goes, Travdog speculated that the Titans would sign Rodgers. He has a house in Nashville. So I just agree with him and I think the writing is on the wall. And what would we do if we didn't sign a vet? We aren't running it back with Levis unless we are already in tank mode. Resign Mason and start him? Possible. Draft a QB and play him? I think the signs point to signing a vet QB. Even more so if you are right about the Titans wanting to draft Shough. If not Rodgers then who?
 
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this is what it says "Good backup with the potential to develop into starter" So its going to be a hard no unless he's like a 6th round pick or something low.
that kind of scouting report would suggest hes a 2nd round pick. if a team is hot to trot for him he may go in round 1 or if nobody absolutely loves him he drops to round 3.
 
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If we suppose that NY trades up and Sanders-Ward go 1 and 2. We can take Hunter at 3 and edge in the 2nd. I say this since I got the feeling that edge is a bit deep or I could be misinterpreting things.

Not sure why we'd have to trade Awuzie.
Landry wants out so try to find a trade partner and if not cut him.

As far as QB goes, Travdog speculated that the Titans would sign Rodgers. He has a house in Nashville. So I just agree with him and I think the writing is on the wall. And what would we do if we didn't sign a vet? We aren't running it back with Levis unless we are already in tank mode. Resign Mason and start him? Possible. Draft a QB and play him? I think the signs point to signing a vet QB. Even more so if you are right about the Titans wanting to draft Shough. If not Rodgers then who?
Yeah edge and the DTs are deep- al DL.

Titans had one CB worth a darn in McCreary over the slot then added two pro bowl CBs in free agency. When they got hurt, Baker and Brownlee played like two of the best in the league. Their yards allowed is phenomenal. Baker is a free agent and both have emphatically said he'll be back. Obvious why they want him but for him, he's been a journeyman and he finally got a chance and synced up with the staff and ...he tells a story of thinking he was done w football and strongly wants to be where he's appreciated. He'll be cheap (ish) too because of his lean years.
Ya don't need six very good CBs. Snead is hurt and untradeable. Ya don't trade youth in Brownlee so that leaves Awuzie.
It's outstanding depth. With the way the rest of the team is, it wouldn't be wrong to trade two and add replacements. Right now good players will be sitting or subbing in 2025.
Adding Hunter to that group without making a move seems like overkill but if there's an opening, now they're stacked even better.

If not Rodgers then who- that's a fair sentiment for sure.
I don't have a reply. I'm not a fan of the available free agent QBs.

Cousins was injured in all sorts of ways and people have started defending him but for me it reemphasizes his age.

Cooper Rush is fine. Just the word fine. He's my favorite bridge and I don't want him. He's let's not waste money. Let's get by for a year. He's not a lockerroom attention guy he's just gonna come in and be a good teammate. I think I'm waiting and hoping for someone like Cooper Rush and not him.

It's like a bad garage sale.
 
Breer wrote a nice long piece but it just setups the relationship between Borgonzi and Callahan and how the top four are visiting this week.

As a huge fan of his, that's how I read it. There will be another article maybe after the draft that's got all the juicy details and insider info.

One thing he said in an interview that I've been saying is the Titans seem to be enjoying this. You could look at them with any prospect and talk to the prospects after and it seems like "that's their guy."

All the people that have said Ward is their guy the last few days...I want to know if they also saw them after the other three. Because other reporters were also saying "that's their guy."

Hunter is meeting with them later now, reschedule non issue.
 
Shedeur is odd to me. I'm sure it's because of his dad. He's .... it's not immature, it's like yeah well dad already did better so you're gonna tell me that as a reply.
He talked of being on the sideline putting a hoodie on and being by himself needing to get all steely. Host was saying that's understandable and good and he came back with telling how people point out his dad never needed to and he says his dad never had to lead like me and then went into how he's got a process where he gets alone and gets himself right. Give me two minutes. He doesn't like writers saying he's not a team guy and he's just gotta be himself. That's what he needs to get himself right.

I like all this. I hear a kid that probably does need some space from his Dad in a normal growing up way.

He said (couldn't make out name) coach didn't like it and needs his attention then. He needs to go over plays and reads and yet Sheduer has to get himself right. He'd tell the coach we went over that in practice, I got this.

Ok now, now I see. He's like not wrong and yet wrong too. Very tricky habit for a staff to work around.

He's got great traits and great stories of working out with teammates and former NFL players. He's studious and works out. He's got a lot going for him but that gets himself right is a tricky one.

I sure wish Levis did a few times but was Callahan supposed to leave him be it try to coach him up? I really wonder about this habit. It's not spoiled kid it's just a man doing his process
 
Breer wrote a nice long piece but it just setups the relationship between Borgonzi and Callahan and how the top four are visiting this week.

As a huge fan of his, that's how I read it. There will be another article maybe after the draft that's got all the juicy details and insider info.

One thing he said in an interview that I've been saying is the Titans seem to be enjoying this. You could look at them with any prospect and talk to the prospects after and it seems like "that's their guy."

All the people that have said Ward is their guy the last few days...I want to know if they also saw them after the other three. Because other reporters were also saying "that's their guy."

Hunter is meeting with them later now, reschedule non issue.
This time of year its a poker game (for the most part)

you dont want to give the other teams info on what you are doing. and if looking at trading the pick you want to make like the top 3 or 4 prospects are all 'your guy' so that teams wanting that player will come knocking to see if they can trade into your pick.

I wouldnt honestly pay much attention to any of this its mostly smoke at this time of the year.
 
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Cappa was released by the Bengals as expected.
I think his interest could indicate whether the Titans re-sign their own RG
 
I don't care if it's posturing or not but the rumor that the Titans consider Hunter a WR (Callahan said CB) is clever.
He is a position we desperately need, you'll have to raise your offer.
 
My friends think Levis is ghosted or ignored right now.
Titans will add two QBs and that Callahan really wants his developmental guy. He had said as such last summer but he felt a burn with Malik doing well in GB.
Shough and Ewers and some of them may be genuinely BIG interest but if they fall.

So free agent or Sheduer/Ward
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Developmental guy

I think I forgot he said this the last couple weeks and maybe went down a bad path. It'll all make sense after the draft but I'm thinking this is the case.

It does seem like an exceptional draft to find a developmental QB. There are quite a few "names" that people have going late or UDFA.
 
My friends think Levis is ghosted or ignored right now.
Titans will add two QBs and that Callahan really wants his developmental guy. He had said as such last summer but he felt a burn with Malik doing well in GB.
Shough and Ewers and some of them may be genuinely BIG interest but if they fall.

So free agent or Sheduer/Ward
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Developmental guy

I think I forgot he said this the last couple weeks and maybe went down a bad path. It'll all make sense after the draft but I'm thinking this is the case.

It does seem like an exceptional draft to find a developmental QB. There are quite a few "names" that people have going late or UDFA.
Tommy Mellott in the 7th
 
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I am hating all our WRs and TEs in my daydreams.
I get all excited for some QB while watching and ...we don't have WRs with my ball mentality except Oliver and he barely played. They don't get open at five seconds or two seconds. It doesn't matter how long. Why is Ridley running wrong routes in my daydreams and alligator arming it?

Today I want whoever wins Deestroying's competition. Maybe get a room full of dogs, throw a dog toy, and tell a WR to get the dog toy. We don't need Hunter to play CB and WR we need him to be cloned and be two WRs. I don't know but goodness our targets stink in my daydreams.

What if they cut or trade everyone at WR and TE and just sign all new? Would they really be worse off?
I'm really grumpy that I can't enjoy daydreams today.
Here's Shedeur in a Titans uniform, snaps it, drops back, lofts a pretty pass and...
There's Ward buying time and oh he made another guy miss and...

Can they cut everyone? Oof
 
Bri, your daydreams are a bummer.
Yeah, sorry it's tough.
So McShay had an interview that he'd want- of all WRs- restrepo if he needed a first down.
I remember him as the RB playing WR at the combine. I've seen whatever common highlights and read he's limited by size but not strength and isn't that disciplined on his route running but - dum dum dum noise- finds a way to come up with the ball.
Let's get a third and then get him.

Can he block? Can we dust off Arthur's weird shifts and put him somewhere to block if desperate? Can he be David Meggett/Kevin Faulk on occasion?
I want this to be a thing. Let's get all my ball guys. I'm totally open to anyone. Not to be like I know this guy well and all. Just that this is the kind of list I want for them. Not 40 times and looks good.
 
If I were Jahquan Jackson I'd drop every punt in mini camp.
I have no problem with Callahan benching him for fumbles and muffs and such as a punt returner but putting him in the doghouse was too much.
Why didn't he play more n more WR as the year went on- as Callahan himself suggested he would all summer?

Things would be so different if we knew if Oliver, DMR, and Jackson were for real or not.
 
Landry refused a payout and now expects 15mil per year.
He may be the next of Demarco and Tannehill to price himself out of the league all proudly.

New England would definitely take him but his agent better talk him down because he isn't a name.
 
31 free agents- many many cheap- and Titans have zero transactions.

I feel like Borgonzi can wait- no rush- but none of them had the staff saying "don't let that guy go. Sign him asap?"

But waiting does allow the player's agent to stir up interest and maybe he hears of a potential trade he wouldn't have known of.

It's interesting there's been none.

Five days left. Mar 12 is new league year.
 
Keondre Coburn tendered
So ...30 left

As I've always said there would have to be a good reason to not bring back every affordable lineman from the prior year and see what happens in camp.
A lot of teams make moves as if they're at the 53 but it's 90 time. Titans almost always do this and we hear of some affordable DL having a nice camp elsewhere and hope UDFAs pan out. There should be some value to "you made the 53 last year" for at least an invite
 
Free agency starts (tampering) at noon tomorrow and then noon Wednesday.
Only Coburn and Reese were re-signed.

I don't believe it will stay this way but right now it appears new GM Borgonzi doesn't mind losing 29 of 53 from last year.

Fascinating.
Could be posturing. I don't care what, it's interesting
 
Woohoo they got a tackle.
Dan Moore is average and not likely to improve too much.
I don't think it's certain just yet that he'll play left.
Latham had lots of moments and put the time in.
Also whatever rapport he built with Skoronski.
I don't think it's so cut n dry. Will wait for presser to see what they say.
 
Free agency starts (tampering) at noon tomorrow and then noon Wednesday.
Only Coburn and Reese were re-signed.

I don't believe it will stay this way but right now it appears new GM Borgonzi doesn't mind losing 29 of 53 from last year.

Fascinating.
Could be posturing. I don't care what, it's interesting
Re-signed CB Darrell Baker, LS Morgan Cox and OL Andrew Rupcich to contract extensions.
26 to go, nearly half of 53
 
Woohoo they got a tackle.
Dan Moore is average and not likely to improve too much.
I don't think it's certain just yet that he'll play left.
Latham had lots of moments and put the time in.
Also whatever rapport he built with Skoronski.
I don't think it's so cut n dry. Will wait for presser to see what they say.
A lot of negativity on Moore on social media. He must be a very questionable tackle
 
"Meanwhile, Stonehouse could retire today and hold the NFL record for most yards per punt at an astonishing 52.2 per kick (Lechler had 47.6 in his career, for reference). Stonehouse set an NFL record in his rookie season with 53.1 yards per punt (breaking Sammy Baugh's record of 51.4 from 1940), and then tied that mark in 2023.

In terms of pinning the opponent deep, Stonehouse has proven to be historically good to this point"
(Titans wire article snip)

Why would a team NOT keep a record setting punter?
If it's related to Callahan's friend being fired as ST coach then fire Callahan tomorrow. I would 💯 be angry and dig into this is I was the owner.

It's a punter- not to overstate it- there's something horribly off about this
 
"Meanwhile, Stonehouse could retire today and hold the NFL record for most yards per punt at an astonishing 52.2 per kick (Lechler had 47.6 in his career, for reference). Stonehouse set an NFL record in his rookie season with 53.1 yards per punt (breaking Sammy Baugh's record of 51.4 from 1940), and then tied that mark in 2023.

In terms of pinning the opponent deep, Stonehouse has proven to be historically good to this point"
(Titans wire article snip)

Why would a team NOT keep a record setting punter?
If it's related to Callahan's friend being fired as ST coach then fire Callahan tomorrow. I would 💯 be angry and dig into this is I was the owner.

It's a punter- not to overstate it- there's something horribly off about this
Do you have hang time stats? I can’t find it but there’s talk that he was worst in the league. He consistently outkicked his coverage, but how much of that was on him vs the rest of the ST?
 
"Meanwhile, Stonehouse could retire today and hold the NFL record for most yards per punt at an astonishing 52.2 per kick (Lechler had 47.6 in his career, for reference). Stonehouse set an NFL record in his rookie season with 53.1 yards per punt (breaking Sammy Baugh's record of 51.4 from 1940), and then tied that mark in 2023.

In terms of pinning the opponent deep, Stonehouse has proven to be historically good to this point"
(Titans wire article snip)

Why would a team NOT keep a record setting punter?
If it's related to Callahan's friend being fired as ST coach then fire Callahan tomorrow. I would 💯 be angry and dig into this is I was the owner.

It's a punter- not to overstate it- there's something horribly off about this
Do you have hang time stats? I can’t find it but there’s talk that he was worst in the league. He consistently outkicked his coverage, but how much of that was on him vs the rest of the ST?
They discussed that on TV during the game. Colt Anderson blamed him and the announcers put up some league stats and alluded to the gunners being smacked out of bounds and ....it was garbage to blame him. He just wanted a scapegoat.

I can try and find it. I saw them recently.
The idea that a 50 yard kick with 5 seconds or 6 seconds hang time- that one second makes for worst ever ST records is such a reach by him.
I remember Brady mocking Colt somewhat on his show even
 
I mused tonight if the lack of QB signing meant that TN was going to draft a QB and then I saw this article on nfl.com

These moves might also give us a hint as to the Titans' plans with the first overall pick in the 2025 NFL Draft. We've seen no movement at quarterback and no reported visits from the likes of Russell Wilson or Aaron Rodgers. Sure, they could take Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter, both of whom could be the "generational talent" they don't want to pass up at No. 1.
Yet, this very much feels like table-setting to make Cam Ward the first pick. I'm sure the Titans have not bailed all the hay on that decision yet, and passing on elite non-QBs like Carter or Hunter can be dangerous business, unless they're sold on the idea that Ward can be a difference-maker. But they can't just march into 2025 with Will Levis and a scrap-heap veteran and expect to energize the fanbase after three straight losing seasons.
If I had to guess right now based on the moves they've made to this point, Ward feels like a strong possibility. We're still six weeks removed from the draft, but to me, that's becoming a more likely situation right now.

I think the other option here is that if we take Rodgers/Winston/Wilson it could be seen as tipping our cards so we are just playing a game of chicken with NY and.or CLE. I think we should take A-Rod over Wilson or Winston. or maybe it doesn't matter and we are going to tank to take Manning in 26
 
I mused tonight if the lack of QB signing meant that TN was going to draft a QB and then I saw this article on nfl.com

These moves might also give us a hint as to the Titans' plans with the first overall pick in the 2025 NFL Draft. We've seen no movement at quarterback and no reported visits from the likes of Russell Wilson or Aaron Rodgers. Sure, they could take Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter, both of whom could be the "generational talent" they don't want to pass up at No. 1.
Yet, this very much feels like table-setting to make Cam Ward the first pick. I'm sure the Titans have not bailed all the hay on that decision yet, and passing on elite non-QBs like Carter or Hunter can be dangerous business, unless they're sold on the idea that Ward can be a difference-maker. But they can't just march into 2025 with Will Levis and a scrap-heap veteran and expect to energize the fanbase after three straight losing seasons.
If I had to guess right now based on the moves they've made to this point, Ward feels like a strong possibility. We're still six weeks removed from the draft, but to me, that's becoming a more likely situation right now.

I think the other option here is that if we take Rodgers/Winston/Wilson it could be seen as tipping our cards so we are just playing a game of chicken with NY and.or CLE. I think we should take A-Rod over Wilson or Winston. or maybe it doesn't matter and we are going to tank to take Manning in 26
A Aaron's people said he is considering between retiring, the Giants and Steelers. When pressed they mentioned TEN.

He was very unhappy with the lack of attention to detail/standards in NYJ and Tomlin is supposedly a welcome change.

Teams are telling him they want him to manage and not throw for 4-5k and he doesn't know if he wants that. He's in Cali thinking on things.

That's the best summary I can give. A lot on the radio yesterday. Tennessee is definitely low on the list and one reporter doesn't think they're a real consideration.
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The first pick in the draft plays. They don't sit.
A lot of people think anyone can sit and learn so it'll happen. Maybe a stretch to week five or somesuch but usually it's day one. General rule, gotta be after 8-10 to sit and develop.
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I'm upset with the national reporters that solely project flea market QBs to the Titans. They can kick rocks and will likely have some hiccups from fans and the team even in the future. There's a few that have been so vocal about Zach Wilson and now Wentz. There's others...it's a bad look for them.
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I still think the definitive vibe of Ward is a total smokescreen. A former GM said on the radio yesterday that more than a few NFL GMs think this way now too.
In an either or scenario, ya don't show your cards.
In a four possibility, ya don't show your cards.
BUT ya do if you want to trade someone other teams cover.

The Titans five man GM team isn't short of experience so they wouldn't accidentally do this. It's a purposeful leak. We just don't wholly know what the purpose is.

Another is that Ward is not Peyton whatsoever. Teams do not do this as early as the Titans did unless there's a super obvious pick and he's not.
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Shedeur had an outstanding visit on Monday. Everyone I talked to said very nice things. Jim Wyatt has said how his personality struck him and he seems like a really good good boy.
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Pat Kirwan's concept was the Titans are doing a trick from years ago where they control the spotlight.
I hadn't heard of this in years n years. Maybe since WFAN started.
It's very possible.
How does Ward act with the limelight of assumed #1? How does Shedeur behave when he's not? That's two big questions.

If Kirwan is right, he suggests Carter will be next and it'll be brief because no position holds the trade value of a QB so then it'll shift to Ward or Sheduer.

I'm taken by this theory. I think it might be true. It really works for explaining things and if you read reports Shedeur is barely mentioned as visiting.
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Hunter said if he had to pick one position he'd play WR and (Russini? Breer?) someone mentioned a few teams especially the Titans that were pleasantly surprised by that news. Remember they don't need a CB so this news makes it a hmm pause think on thing. Maybe change ranking maybe not.
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Rudolph still seems in their plans and every time he isn't he gets mentioned as oh btw at the end of articles.
I think they've done this process and may come back to that he's better (giving a lot of credence to year in system and knowing protections) than the other meh QBs for what they likely need of him.
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Minshew has some steam. It was misreported that he worked with the Titans OC and then hasn't died off. There must be some interest.
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Cooper Rush hasn't been a name for weeks and only maybe a few days. I guess that's done.
He's still my favorite. I like the youth yet experience, well regarded intelligence and study habits, and affordability. That people consistently say "doesn't try to do too much" speaks to me too. I feel like he counters and/or provides everything they need a veteran to whether we talk Levis or Ward/Sheduer. His super low key nature suits me too. It might be the Mayo but I just like a quiet backup right now.
Anywho that was like a blink- mentioned and gone for far longer time than discussed.
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Borgonzi has been leading meetings in an orderly fashion controlling the discussion. He doesn't want to discuss every position or every pick at one time and idk... whatever but apparently that's a good thing.
That's about all they say about him on the radio.
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One funny? Odd? quote by an NFL GM about Borgonzi was that he's not afraid to put his male private part on the table and see what happens. He knows there's value in that.

This just adds to my guess of Ward may not be the guy but just the one they want teams to trade into the pick for.
 

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