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[thatguy]

I don't like to hate on this list, as I definitely appreciate the effort that goes into it... But I find myself consistently surprised by some of the WR rankings.

I won't give away too much detail, but will list some of the rankings that have me scratching my head this week.

First, I think Fitz should consistently be in the top 3 and I'm always amazed by some of the guys that are ranked ahead of him. He's one of those guys who you can plug in and know he won't disapoint you, but it seems that he never really finds his way to the top where he really belongs, instead being stuck behind the flavor of the month, the next big thing, or underperforming studs.

Second, Boldin is chronically underrated by this list. He is moving up slowly, but I really don't know what else he can do to earn some respect. He is absolutely owning all of the other WR's in PPG, yet is consistently behind guys who have no business being ahead of him.

Those are the two that stuck out to me this week, but it seems like every week there are a few rankings that I just don't get. I might be being nitpicky as both players are ranked very high, but based on the value number that is listed for each player, the small differences in ranking are fairly significant.

 

[thatguy]

IMO, Dodds puts too much emphasis on name value as opposed to results. It took forever for BE to fall out of the top-ten while Roddy White just barely broke in last week. I'm not saying he needs to base the rankings on last week's performance, but if you've got 3-4 weeks of over/underperformance, adjust accordingly.

I think that's a good point. It took quite a while for him to finally drop Moss from the top spot, and even the top 5 after that, even when it was clear that he didn't belong up there without Brady.

 

[thatguy]

I feel compelled to bump this given Boldin's jump from 10th to 1st on the Top 250 in the span of a single week. I just don't get it. I mean, I agree with Boldin at WR1. What I don't get is why on earth Dodds had Boldin at 10th just a week ago,. He put up another typical Boldin day, the same thing he's been doing all season. And then what, a light goes on, and he gets bumped straight to the top? What gives? I guess my questions is, what did he see this week that he didn't see last week, or the week before that, or the week before that?

 

[Da Guru]

I feel compelled to bump this given Boldin's jump from 10th to 1st on the Top 250 in the span of a single week. I just don't get it. I mean, I agree with Boldin at WR1. What I don't get is why on earth Dodds had Boldin at 10th just a week ago,. He put up another typical Boldin day, the same thing he's been doing all season. And then what, a light goes on, and he gets bumped straight to the top? What gives? I guess my questions is, what did he see this week that he didn't see last week, or the week before that, or the week before that?

I have Boldin on one team, and traded for him while he was hurt on another. I could care less what he was or is ranked. I knew what I felt his value was.

 

[thatguy]

I feel compelled to bump this given Boldin's jump from 10th to 1st on the Top 250 in the span of a single week. I just don't get it. I mean, I agree with Boldin at WR1. What I don't get is why on earth Dodds had Boldin at 10th just a week ago,. He put up another typical Boldin day, the same thing he's been doing all season. And then what, a light goes on, and he gets bumped straight to the top? What gives? I guess my questions is, what did he see this week that he didn't see last week, or the week before that, or the week before that?

I have Boldin on one team, and traded for him while he was hurt on another. I could care less what he was or is ranked. I knew what I felt his value was.

A lot of people knew what his value was/is. My question is why it took Dodds so long to figure it out... He even downgraded him slightly in last weeks Top 250.

 

[Pictus Cat]

I think rest of the year rankings are going to vary alot week to week.

Take the best and worst matchup fo the top 20.

See where they are next week.

Especially the WR the does well in a bad matchup

vs

the WR that unexplainably underperforms in a good matchup.

Add in new injuries, qb concerns, matchup re-evaluations...

Kind of why knowing why the adjustments are made are more important to some of us...totality of the subscriber content plus th availability for your specific questions.

It seems they put a lot more work and knowledge into it than I can.

 

[bonesman]

Yea... the rankings (particularly the WRs) seem overly reactionary to me.

Where's Boldin going to be this week if he only pulls in 50-60 yards and no TD?

8 or so?

I guess it depends how many other guys have good games that are near the top.

 

[46 ZONE]

Boldin has been chronically under-rated since he entered the league. Just be happy that there are guys like Boldin that are almost always under-rated because they do not fit the ideal mode for their position. Tiki Barber comes to mind as someone who was not the right mode - too small to carry the load. So, you drafted Boldin and did not even have to invest a 1st or 2nd rounder because he does not have Fitz' speed or jumping ability, yet he is still the best WR in the league despite missing 2 full games due to injury. Pat yourself on the back, and make sure to draft him again next year when the guy in front of you takes the faster WR with more game breaking ability.

 

[teamroc]

Boldin has been chronically under-rated since he entered the league. Just be happy that there are guys like Boldin that are almost always under-rated because they do not fit the ideal mode for their position. Tiki Barber comes to mind as someone who was not the right mode - too small to carry the load. So, you drafted Boldin and did not even have to invest a 1st or 2nd rounder because he does not have Fitz' speed or jumping ability, yet he is still the best WR in the league despite missing 2 full games due to injury. Pat yourself on the back, and make sure to draft him again next year when the guy in front of you takes the faster WR with more game breaking ability.

Agree 100%.Boldin had 101 mother ####### catches as a rookie. He's set records for number of catches for games played. Like fastest to 400, EVER. I believe his low TDs were 100% due to Green. Most people don't know that, Boldin wasn't even in most goal line packages, when Fitz was. Boldin used to come off the field inside the 20. Green knew Fitz as a kid, trusted him, and fed him the ball in the RZ. Once Green left, Boldin set career marks for TDs. The guy has basically been TO without the attitude. I remember when he almost singlehandedly beat the Bears when Fitz was out, the classic "they are what we thought they were" game. Went for 12 catches, 136 yards and a TD. The guy is just a pure stud, and has been since week 1 in his rookie year. Anyway, yeah Boldin rocks.

 

[bonesman]

Boldin has been chronically under-rated since he entered the league. Just be happy that there are guys like Boldin that are almost always under-rated because they do not fit the ideal mode for their position. Tiki Barber comes to mind as someone who was not the right mode - too small to carry the load. So, you drafted Boldin and did not even have to invest a 1st or 2nd rounder because he does not have Fitz' speed or jumping ability, yet he is still the best WR in the league despite missing 2 full games due to injury. Pat yourself on the back, and make sure to draft him again next year when the guy in front of you takes the faster WR with more game breaking ability.

Was selected before Fitz at 2.6 in my main league.

 

[thatguy]

Boldin has been chronically under-rated since he entered the league. Just be happy that there are guys like Boldin that are almost always under-rated because they do not fit the ideal mode for their position. Tiki Barber comes to mind as someone who was not the right mode - too small to carry the load. So, you drafted Boldin and did not even have to invest a 1st or 2nd rounder because he does not have Fitz' speed or jumping ability, yet he is still the best WR in the league despite missing 2 full games due to injury. Pat yourself on the back, and make sure to draft him again next year when the guy in front of you takes the faster WR with more game breaking ability.

Agree 100%.Boldin had 101 mother ####### catches as a rookie. He's set records for number of catches for games played. Like fastest to 400, EVER. I believe his low TDs were 100% due to Green. Most people don't know that, Boldin wasn't even in most goal line packages, when Fitz was. Boldin used to come off the field inside the 20. Green knew Fitz as a kid, trusted him, and fed him the ball in the RZ. Once Green left, Boldin set career marks for TDs. The guy has basically been TO without the attitude.

I remember when he almost singlehandedly beat the Bears when Fitz was out, the classic "they are what we thought they were" game. Went for 12 catches, 136 yards and a TD. The guy is just a pure stud, and has been since week 1 in his rookie year.

Anyway, yeah Boldin rocks.

The TO comparison is apt with regards to the amount of TD's that Quan has put up this season, and really the past two seasons, as he put up 9 in 12 games last season. However, after that, I think Quan has a clear edge in other facets of the game.First, TO does not catch nearly as many balls as Boldin - he typically falls in the 80-90 reception range while Boldin when healthy has always been a 100 reception guy. Boldin for his career has averaged 6.25 receptions per game, which is among the best ever, while TO has averaged a touch over 5. This averages out to 100 receptions for every 16 games for Quan, but only 81 for TO.

As for Yards Per Game and Per 16 Games, Boldin averages 82.2 (another numbers that is among tops all time) and 1316 respectively, while TO averages 74.2 and 1187 respectively.

Basically, aside from TD's, Boldin has been far better than TO. Now that his TD numbers are finally coming in bunches (19 in his last 20 games), he has a very clear edge overall.

I agree with whoever said the rankings are too reactionary. I've always agreed with that, but that is what makes it even harder for me to understand how Boldin dropped from eighth to tenth after week ten despite going for 7 92 2. If that and everything he had done prior to that wasn't enough to convince Dodds that he was at worst top 5, I just don't see how him going for 13 186 0 was enough to suddenly show him the light and bump him to the top spot. In week 11, per the value chart, Boldin was worth Dwayne Bowe and the Packers D. In week 12, he's worth Calvin Johnson and Jason Witten, or Brandon Jacobs and Matt Ryan.

Color me confused by his methodology/though process/whatever goes into making those rankings.

 

[bonesman]

I realize he has a couple of tough matchups coming up... but that seems like a dramatic bump downward for Andre Johnson after a 10 rec 110+ yd day.

 

[Nate]

I realize he has a couple of tough matchups coming up... but that seems like a dramatic bump downward for Andre Johnson after a 10 rec 110+ yd day.

He was probably too high in the first place, I don't really think he was getting into the end zone nearly enough to be ranked quite so high. I'd expect the top 250 to jump around quite a bit according to schedule from now on. I know it's been said a thousand times but it's just a guide people. It's just one guy's projections. I've never understood why people get worked up when they disagree with it.

 

[thatguy]

I realize he has a couple of tough matchups coming up... but that seems like a dramatic bump downward for Andre Johnson after a 10 rec 110+ yd day.

He was probably too high in the first place, I don't really think he was getting into the end zone nearly enough to be ranked quite so high. I'd expect the top 250 to jump around quite a bit according to schedule from now on. I know it's been said a thousand times but it's just a guide people. It's just one guy's projections. I've never understood why people get worked up when they disagree with it.

Well, it's not really projections we're discussing, it's rankings. And no one is getting worked up - we're just discussing said rankings.But you're right that at this point in the season we will begin to see schedule trump talent, and guys will jump around a lot more from week to week.