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Total Pt. League vs H2H (1 Viewer)

MATT FORTE

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Ok, just wondered what you think about our league. I am currently in a Total Point League that plays a H2H schedule, and has a H2H playoff with the majority of the winnings going to the total point winner of the season, instead of the playoff winnner. The Regular Season champion only gets the number 1 seed in the playoffs, and no money. I think that the regular season champion ought to be rewarded.

 
Ok, just wondered what you think about our league. I am currently in a Total Point League that plays a H2H schedule, and has a H2H playoff with the majority of the winnings going to the total point winner of the season, instead of the playoff winnner. The Regular Season champion only gets the number 1 seed in the playoffs, and no money. I think that the regular season champion ought to be rewarded.
There was a thread about this a couple weeks ago. There is no consensus. Some people believe that H2H is fun and should be rewarded despite it being 50% based on luck and not always rewarded the team with the best fantasy players. Others like to keep luck out of the equation and go Total Points.Myself, I like a mix of the two. Give the total points winner the majority of the pot, and keep H2H for fun only or for a smaller prize.
 
Ok, just wondered what you think about our league. I am currently in a Total Point League that plays a H2H schedule, and has a H2H playoff with the majority of the winnings going to the total point winner of the season, instead of the playoff winnner. The Regular Season champion only gets the number 1 seed in the playoffs, and no money. I think that the regular season champion ought to be rewarded.
There was a thread about this a couple weeks ago. There is no consensus. Some people believe that H2H is fun and should be rewarded despite it being 50% based on luck and not always rewarded the team with the best fantasy players. Others like to keep luck out of the equation and go Total Points.

Myself, I like a mix of the two. Give the total points winner the majority of the pot, and keep H2H for fun only or for a smaller prize.
you'll never keep it out, its is always the major factor.and i dont think that green bay gets any trophies for the best record or most points do they?

nope, because they have to win the playoffs for that.

 
Ok, just wondered what you think about our league. I am currently in a Total Point League that plays a H2H schedule, and has a H2H playoff with the majority of the winnings going to the total point winner of the season, instead of the playoff winnner. The Regular Season champion only gets the number 1 seed in the playoffs, and no money. I think that the regular season champion ought to be rewarded.
There was a thread about this a couple weeks ago. There is no consensus. Some people believe that H2H is fun and should be rewarded despite it being 50% based on luck and not always rewarded the team with the best fantasy players. Others like to keep luck out of the equation and go Total Points.

Myself, I like a mix of the two. Give the total points winner the majority of the pot, and keep H2H for fun only or for a smaller prize.
you'll never keep it out, its is always the major factor.and i dont think that green bay gets any trophies for the best record or most points do they?

nope, because they have to win the playoffs for that.
This was brought up in the other thread too. The difference between NFL H2H matchups and fantasy ones is that in the NFL teams have defense that affect what the other team scores and ultimately affects the outcome. Fantasy teams have no such thing, so what the other guy scores is a total craps shoot and the result may not be indicative of the overall best team i n a playoff system.
 
The difference between NFL H2H matchups and fantasy ones is that in the NFL teams have defense that affect what the other team scores and ultimately affects the outcome. Fantasy teams have no such thing, so what the other guy scores is a total craps shoot and the result may not be indicative of the overall best team i n a playoff system.
:goodposting: I finished #1 in points but missed the playoffs because my weekly opponents just happened to have their best weeks when they played me.I favor a mix of the 2, since H2H does seem to be more popular with many.
 
and i dont think that green bay gets any trophies for the best record or most points do they?nope, because they have to win the playoffs for that.
Completely irrelevant. If you don't realize the difference between real football and fantasy football, then we can't help you.
 
Also, in H2H leagues, I am a big fan of playing multiple opponents a week. It cuts down on the luck factor of scheduling quite a bit. In one league this year, we played three opponents a week, one of which was the league average.

 
In my primary H2H league, we save spots at the end of the playoff seeds for the highest remaining point total. We had been doing 6 teams (out of 12), with 5 in on record, and the last on points. This year, we moved to 8 teams, with 6 on record, 2 on points.

 
and i dont think that green bay gets any trophies for the best record or most points do they?nope, because they have to win the playoffs for that.
Completely irrelevant. If you don't realize the difference between real football and fantasy football, then we can't help you.
no its not, the point is you never crown anyone for regular season championships. even in fantasy.if you dont realize that, then we cant help you.
 
and i dont think that green bay gets any trophies for the best record or most points do they?nope, because they have to win the playoffs for that.
Completely irrelevant. If you don't realize the difference between real football and fantasy football, then we can't help you.
no its not, the point is you never crown anyone for regular season championships. even in fantasy.if you dont realize that, then we cant help you.
Here's a piece of advice for your next fantasy season. Just have all the playoff teams roll a pair of dice and the highest score takes the pot. That's basically the same as a H2H playoff system.
 
In my league, it's primarily head to head: The three division leaders based on record get the top 3 playoff seeds.

The 4th seed (wild card), however, is awarded to the overall points leader of the remaining 9 teams, regardless of record. This helps mitigate someone who's had a solid season and has just been unlucky with matchups. They still need to do well in the playoffs to be the champ. We've been this way for the last 6 years and it's worked well. Commonly, it hasn't mattered whether the wild card would've been based on record or what we're currently doing.

 
'butcher boy said:
'Phenix said:
'Ghost Rider said:
'Phenix said:
and i dont think that green bay gets any trophies for the best record or most points do they?nope, because they have to win the playoffs for that.
Completely irrelevant. If you don't realize the difference between real football and fantasy football, then we can't help you.
no its not, the point is you never crown anyone for regular season championships. even in fantasy.if you dont realize that, then we cant help you.
Here's a piece of advice for your next fantasy season. Just have all the playoff teams roll a pair of dice and the highest score takes the pot. That's basically the same as a H2H playoff system.
:goodposting: I made the playoffs in all 3 of my leagues. I lost in the championship game in one league. In the other two leagues, I lost in the first round and second round. When I lost, I played the highest scoring team of the week and would have beaten both teams in the other game. When I lost in the first round, I had a higher score in the second round than all four of the teams still alive. Sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you don't. I like to think I draft pretty well and have good teams, so I am usually in the playoffs, but I often get unlucky and lose early and it does get annoying knowing you would have either won it all or at least made it to the championship if you didn't play the only team you could lose to that week.Personally, I like the way one league gives most of the pot to the top 3 scoring teams (usually playoff teams) and splits the rest between the teams in the championship game. The other two leagues at least give the last playoff spot to the top scoring team that didn't make the fixed playoff spots to take out some of the head to head luck.
 
'Leroy Hoard said:
'butcher boy said:
The difference between NFL H2H matchups and fantasy ones is that in the NFL teams have defense that affect what the other team scores and ultimately affects the outcome. Fantasy teams have no such thing, so what the other guy scores is a total craps shoot and the result may not be indicative of the overall best team i n a playoff system.
:goodposting: I finished #1 in points but missed the playoffs because my weekly opponents just happened to have their best weeks when they played me.

I favor a mix of the 2, since H2H does seem to be more popular with many.
Are you me?
 
How can you guys play in leagues that don't at the very least give a wild card berth to the team with the highest remaining point total? Did you just arrive in a time machine from 1998? Holy crap.

 
'butcher boy said:
'Phenix said:
'Ghost Rider said:
'Phenix said:
and i dont think that green bay gets any trophies for the best record or most points do they?

nope, because they have to win the playoffs for that.
Completely irrelevant. If you don't realize the difference between real football and fantasy football, then we can't help you.
no its not, the point is you never crown anyone for regular season championships. even in fantasy.if you dont realize that, then we cant help you.
Here's a piece of advice for your next fantasy season. Just have all the playoff teams roll a pair of dice and the highest score takes the pot. That's basically the same as a H2H playoff system.
And a huge part of the fun. I find it a ton of fun that any team can beat another in a H2H matchup. I was #2 in total points in one league this year and just barely made the playoffs. Personally I enjoy the excitement at the end of the year. It really is a to each his own situation.
 
H2H allows you to make a come back after a crappy first half of the season... And Total Points pads the rear-ends of those guys who can't make mid to late season adjustments... 'Total Points' sucks...

'Victory Points' leagues are the only alternate to H2H leagues...

 
H2H allows you to make a come back after a crappy first half of the season... And Total Points pads the rear-ends of those guys who can't make mid to late season adjustments... 'Total Points' sucks...'Victory Points' leagues are the only alternate to H2H leagues...
What are those?
 
H2H allows you to make a come back after a crappy first half of the season... And Total Points pads the rear-ends of those guys who can't make mid to late season adjustments... 'Total Points' sucks...'Victory Points' leagues are the only alternate to H2H leagues...
What are those?
Just googled...Apparently it's a combo of both styles of play... You get "victory points" from your head to head matchups, and also get "victory points" for how you did that week compared to the rest of the league:You win: 2VPs. You Tie: 1VP. You lose: 0VPs(assuming a 12 team league) You finish top 4 for the week: 2VPs. You finish middle 4 for the week: 1VP. You finish bottom 4 for the week: 0VP.Seems pretty convoluted to me.All in all, if you don't like the scoring/championship/payout/whatever format, don't play in that league. It's all a matter of preference, and will absolutely affect the way you draft.
 
H2H allows you to make a come back after a crappy first half of the season... And Total Points pads the rear-ends of those guys who can't make mid to late season adjustments... 'Total Points' sucks...'Victory Points' leagues are the only alternate to H2H leagues...
What are those?
Are you serious? You can't be..
Yep, never heard of it.
There are variations, but for example:The League standings are kept with 'Victory Points' or VP's, instead of wins and losses.Each week you play head-to-head like normal leagues. A win awards your team with 2 VP's, A Tie 1 VP, and a loss no points. Very similar to how Hockey does it's season standing.In addition to the H2H VP's, each week the teams are arranged on order of total fantasy points scored during that week and VP's are awarded.12-team league VP's:High Score - 2 VP's2nd - 2 VP's3rd - 2 VP's4th - 2 VP's5th - 1 VP6th - 1 VP7th - 1 VP8th - 1 VP9th - 0 10th - 0 11th - 0 12th - 0 If you get the second highest score and lose, you still get 2 VPs. Teams are seeded for the playoffs according to VPs, once in, the playoffs go according to normal H2H rules..
 
My league has two division of 12 teams at the end of the regular season the team with the best record from each division makes the championship game they play the team with the most points. If the team with the best record also has the most points they play the next highest scoring team, record comes first. The teams that make the championship game get in the playoffs. We have 6 wild card teams all based on points that also make the playoffs. Everyone else is in the shoulda coulda woulda. It works out well. Gives the teams with the best head to head record two chances to win money. It also gives the teams who had bad luck in the head to head match ups the chance to prove them selves in the playoffs.

 
'Phenix said:
'Ghost Rider said:
'Phenix said:
and i dont think that green bay gets any trophies for the best record or most points do they?nope, because they have to win the playoffs for that.
Completely irrelevant. If you don't realize the difference between real football and fantasy football, then we can't help you.
no its not, the point is you never crown anyone for regular season championships. even in fantasy.if you dont realize that, then we cant help you.
Uh, a lot of leagues do, or at least split the money up evenly between the playoffs and regular season. You're probably one of those owners who is lucky to be .500 every year and just hopes to eke into the playoffs and get lucky and win it all, which is why you like H2H so much. Smart leagues know that awarding everything to the playoff winners in a strictly H2H league is foolish.
 
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