Trade ettiquette (1 Viewer)

[Captain Spaulding]

Just wondering your opinions on the subject. For most of us whom play fantasy football most of the websites/software allow us to post trades on the site vs. calling up owners and doing the transactions manually like in the old days. Numerous times lately, I've posted trade offers to owners who sit on the trade for 3+ days (sometimes as long as a week) before getting back with either an acceptance/decline/counter offer. These are very active owners and I know they check the website frequently so its not a matter them not getting on the computer. Personally, when I see a trade offer to me, I react (out of courtesy) right away or at least do a little research and respond within 24 hrs. just so if I'm not interested they can target other owners in trades. What are you're thoughts on owners sitting unresponsive on trades for days on end? Poor behaviour or perfectly fine to do?

 

[FunkyTeaParty]

I have no qualms with it. I tend to mull things over before I make decisions so I understand why this occurs.

I would say if you are sick of waiting just pull the offer.

 

[Winning IS Everything]

I have no qualms with it. I tend to mull things over before I make decisions so I understand why this occurs.I would say if you are sick of waiting just pull the offer.

I agree with this. It is nice to get that same day answer, but most times that is asking too much. Especially if it is a good, close deal.

 

[senor peso 2006]

I've reverted back to the old way. If I'm trying to make a trade, I want to either call or email. The more direct communication I can have, the better chance I have of making a deal or find out where they are at in regards to interest of a deal. If someone does sit on an offer, I just pull it. If there is interest, they will correspond.

 

[theplayer11]

it bugs me when other owners take so long..I mean accept, reject, or counter. Mulling it over for more than a a day is ridiculous..I wonder how some of these guys make real world decisions.

 

[Weiner Dog]

As in life, there are going to be some "non-traditional" owners in every league. Once you learn that everybody marches to the beat of a different drummer, you'll learn to tolerate.

We have a guy in my main league who will offer a trade and...upon acceptance by the other owner...will say, "OK, give me a few days before we post the trade and officially approve everything." Well...in the meantime, he'll take the player he's expected to receive and attempt to trade him to everybody in the league. If other owners have no interest in the player, he'll either renig or attempt to re-negotiate the previously agreed-upon trade.

I will no longer talk trades with this owner unless he posts his offer on the system. I honestly wonder how these type of owners function in the real world where ethics or morals are tested every day...

 

[Panzer]

i post the trade and then call the owner to flesh out the details. sometimes lobbying helps get the trade done quickly

 

[Masked Vigilante]

I usually show up at his door. We negotiate in person.

 

[Panzer]

I usually show up at his door. We negotiate in person.

kinda like the Sopranos?

 

[Couch Potato]

I usually show up at his door. We negotiate in person.

Do you wear the bunny ears?Where can I get some?

 

[Masked Vigilante]

I usually show up at his door. We negotiate in person.

Do you wear the bunny ears?Where can I get some?

Those belong to my cat. He gets angry when I wear them.

 

[Couch Potato]

I usually show up at his door. We negotiate in person.

Do you wear the bunny ears?Where can I get some?

Those belong to my cat. He gets angry when I wear them.

Well they look great on your cat. I when I first saw that avatar, and it makes me smile every time. So thanks for that.

 

[Dave Stauff]

In my experience, the better (more balanced) the trade offer, the longer I'm going to take mulling over the ramifications of accepting. I get a lot of what I call "no brainers", in that I'm hitting the reject button before giving it a second thought. In a very few cases over the past 20 years, I've scrambled to get to the "accept" button ASAP, fearing the other guy would come to his senses and pull the offer off the table before I could execute the transaction. But the best trade offer, by far, is one that somehow benefits both teams and if the resources being traded are pretty evenly balanced, I'm probably going to take a while to think it over. So if I'm your trading partner and I seem to be taking a while, consider it a sign of respect for your ability to put together a quality offer.

 

[davidwb]

some folks travel during the week on business and while they may be able to view the website that hosts their league, they may not have all of the information sources they need to respond to a trade.

of course, they should send an e-mail to the trade initiator saying this.

 

[Instinctive]

I think that the courtesy is to reply with "I need to think about it, it doesn't jump out at me but I'll do some extra research."

Just letting it sit there when you see it really bugs me as well. The least you could do is a quick "I see the offer, just looking at it from all angles" note to the offering owner.

 

[Captain Spaulding]

One owner I called after 3 days to let them know I sent a trade offer to them, to read it and let me know right away or make a counter. In the phone conversation They were fine and excited about it. Its been another 2 days and no response. I do try my best to make trades that benefit the other owners needs. My theory is usually the delays are due to 2 things...

1) They want to wait and see how weekend games pan out before deciding (i.e. injury or performance evaluation)

2) They are tryingt to talk to other owners to work out side deals (i.e move a player/draft picks etc. onward to another owner who may have interest somehow

Personally I think the 1st reason is a wimpy reason to sit on a trade offer. And number 2 although its perfectly legit and shows very slick and skilled ownership, I still think 24-48 hours max should still be honored.

And yes I've pulled back many trade offers over the last few years, because of no response after 3 days or so....I'm trying to get my roster where I want it and I don't have much time to wait around. Sometimes I've sent mulitple trade offers out to various owners to speed things up, but when you get multiple acceptances (using the software trade offer method) you can get in a jam if you are offering the same player to various people.

 

[bentley]

Dude, I got a lotta #### going on in the real world. If I ever respond in less than three days it's a miracle. As someone said earlier, a quick visit to the site to check standings or whatever is a whole lot different than doing the research necessary to decide on whether to pull the trigger on a reasonable trade.

 

[Captain Spaulding]

Dude, I got a lotta #### going on in the real world. If I ever respond in less than three days it's a miracle. As someone said earlier, a quick visit to the site to check standings or whatever is a whole lot different than doing the research necessary to decide on whether to pull the trigger on a reasonable trade.

Nah, these guys I'm talking about total fantasy addicts play in 3+ leagues and are up to speed on all the latest football info. and are on the fantasy websites everyday. Its only these owners that I have issue with. I know they aren't too busy...they are just delaying for some strategic reason of which I'm almost sure about. There's a few owners in our league whom travel alot with work or have alot of work/family commitments. I rarely trade with those owners because they are too hard to get ahold of. Its the couple of shark owners that sit on it!

 

[Instinctive]

Dude, I got a lotta #### going on in the real world. If I ever respond in less than three days it's a miracle. As someone said earlier, a quick visit to the site to check standings or whatever is a whole lot different than doing the research necessary to decide on whether to pull the trigger on a reasonable trade.

But when you check that and see a trade offer, do you have the decency to send the other guy a quick "I am really busy and don't know when I'll get to sit down and look at this" note?

 

[bentley]

Dude, I got a lotta #### going on in the real world. If I ever respond in less than three days it's a miracle. As someone said earlier, a quick visit to the site to check standings or whatever is a whole lot different than doing the research necessary to decide on whether to pull the trigger on a reasonable trade.

But when you check that and see a trade offer, do you have the decency to send the other guy a quick "I am really busy and don't know when I'll get to sit down and look at this" note?

"Decency?" Really? Like the original poster noted in his follow-up, most people are smart enough to figure out who has real world responsibilities and may be tardy in replying.

 

[Instinctive]

Dude, I got a lotta #### going on in the real world. If I ever respond in less than three days it's a miracle. As someone said earlier, a quick visit to the site to check standings or whatever is a whole lot different than doing the research necessary to decide on whether to pull the trigger on a reasonable trade.

But when you check that and see a trade offer, do you have the decency to send the other guy a quick "I am really busy and don't know when I'll get to sit down and look at this" note?

"Decency?" Really? Like the original poster noted in his follow-up, most people are smart enough to figure out who has real world responsibilities and may be tardy in replying.

Shouldn't everyone have real word responsibilties? Its just like using a turn signal. Its easy, it doesn't hurt, and other people arent left hanging. So, yes, decency.I have responsibilites, and when I can't get back to you right away, I send a quick note so you aren't left hanging. Juts like if you can't make a date you should let the other person know.Decency is something we sorely lack in this world.

 

[bentley]

Dude, I got a lotta #### going on in the real world. If I ever respond in less than three days it's a miracle. As someone said earlier, a quick visit to the site to check standings or whatever is a whole lot different than doing the research necessary to decide on whether to pull the trigger on a reasonable trade.

But when you check that and see a trade offer, do you have the decency to send the other guy a quick "I am really busy and don't know when I'll get to sit down and look at this" note?

"Decency?" Really? Like the original poster noted in his follow-up, most people are smart enough to figure out who has real world responsibilities and may be tardy in replying.

Shouldn't everyone have real word responsibilties? Its just like using a turn signal. Its easy, it doesn't hurt, and other people arent left hanging. So, yes, decency.I have responsibilites, and when I can't get back to you right away, I send a quick note so you aren't left hanging. Juts like if you can't make a date you should let the other person know.Decency is something we sorely lack in this world.

Strange. If you don't get back to me right away, I have the decency to understand that you might have something more important than fantasy football in your life. So I guess we agree that decency is lacking.

 

[Couch Potato]

Dude, I got a lotta #### going on in the real world.

By that he means the FFA of course.

 

[bentley]

Dude, I got a lotta #### going on in the real world.

By that he means the FFA of course.

SHHHHHHHHHHHHH.Really, I've got nothing. I just always assume that the person on the other end has something going on if I don't hear back right away rather than demanding a response.

 

[Instinctive]

Dude, I got a lotta #### going on in the real world. If I ever respond in less than three days it's a miracle. As someone said earlier, a quick visit to the site to check standings or whatever is a whole lot different than doing the research necessary to decide on whether to pull the trigger on a reasonable trade.

But when you check that and see a trade offer, do you have the decency to send the other guy a quick "I am really busy and don't know when I'll get to sit down and look at this" note?

"Decency?" Really? Like the original poster noted in his follow-up, most people are smart enough to figure out who has real world responsibilities and may be tardy in replying.

Shouldn't everyone have real word responsibilties? Its just like using a turn signal. Its easy, it doesn't hurt, and other people arent left hanging. So, yes, decency.I have responsibilites, and when I can't get back to you right away, I send a quick note so you aren't left hanging. Juts like if you can't make a date you should let the other person know.Decency is something we sorely lack in this world.

Strange. If you don't get back to me right away, I have the decency to understand that you might have something more important than fantasy football in your life. So I guess we agree that decency is lacking.

Except that the other person has no idea that you're being understanding or that you're a bit peeved. The offering party is a nonissue here. Their action was sending an offer. This is purely regarding the response.

 

[Couch Potato]

Dude, I got a lotta #### going on in the real world.

By that he means the FFA of course.

SHHHHHHHHHHHHH.Really, I've got nothing. I just always assume that the person on the other end has something going on if I don't hear back right away rather than demanding a response.

Just playin.' I'm sure you can run your multi-billion dollar company, date three supermodels, and post in the FFA at the same time without breaking a sweat. You ARE an FBG after all.