Juxtatarot
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Melania wouldnāt even kiss him on the lips.
I doubt it. To the best of my understanding, pollstersĀ still havenāt really explained the closet supporters last time and admit they canāt really gauge his supportĀ with any degree of accuracy +/- 3, which is huge.The bolded is certainly not true.
I would imagine that if the pollsters are wrong about Trump again in 2020 several of them will go out of business. I am guessing that they are being exceedingly cautious, and the current polling is even worse for Trump at the present time than is being reported.
Mass exodus of African Americans from the Democratic Party.ĀCare to unpack the bolded term?
Since you spelled Pence āPenseā in back to back posts and this is your reply I have to ask, do you know how to spell it yet? It doesnāt surprise me you can repeat Penceās talking points about how great trump is.Ā1- What?Ā Is he French or something.Ā
2- Tend to agree, but maybe that's why the "running mate" brought it up.Ā
3- I tend to think it can't hurt grab em by the kitty tweet happy Trump. It could destroy the democrats.Ā
Sounds like he is more focused on rounding up illegals here already instead of being so focused on building the wall like in his election campaign.ĀDidn't watch. Didn't want to watch.
But did he lay out, anything, anything at all he plans to do?
Or was it all attacking and cheap lazy shots?
Which is interesting in itself as Biden is awful but I think you are right.ĀWith his intentions official, letās handicap the field.Ā
The only Democrat in the announced field that poses any threat, in my opinion, Ā is Biden. Ā He should cruise over anyone else. Ā
Your act is so old......just go away. A whole forum was created as your safe space, just this thread without you would be excellent. TIA.ĀSure...my questionsĀ have been pointed to start or keep conversation. Ā Asking people about what he has done...wondering why only Biden is a threat. And so on.
That is in good faith, people should be able to articulate and back up their support, assertions,Ā and opinions.
Think I am with you guys on this one.Ā Safe space engaged....I'm out!Ā ĀI agree. This is my last post in this thread.ĀI do think it would be nice if those of us that are staunchly opposed to Trump could dial it down a bit in this thread, or maybe just not post in here at all unless it's a good faith sort of thing, but I'll keep my expectations low on that front.
How cute, someone needs their safe space. Ā How Trumpian.Your act is so old......just go away. A whole forum was created as your safe space, just this thread without you would be excellent. TIA.Ā
Come on Tim, thatās like our āFreebirdā Ā ĀTrump brought up Hillary tonight and the crowd chanted āLock her up!āĀ
Haha, sheās such a joke. Given the options I canāt wait for 4 more years. ĀCome on Tim, thatās like our āFreebirdā Ā Ā
With that kind of backing there is noĀ way Trump loses to HillaryĀ in 2020Trump brought up Hillary tonight and the crowd chanted āLock her up!āĀ
Same showman, same message, same audience as 2016. Except for the cameo roles by Little Marco, Caddy Graham and Voldemort Scott.ĀTrump brought up Hillary tonight and the crowd chanted āLock her up!āĀ
You know, after watching it...not so much.Ā100,000 people expected. Very impressive.
Which is my point. It was like a Lynyrd Skynyrd concert...in 2019.ĀCome on Tim, thatās like our āFreebirdā Ā Ā
I believe it is a true statement. Whether you agree with it happening or not is a matter of preference.Āthis statement is just so ridiculous to even start off with.Ā lol
How does Trump overcome this reaction?ĀYour act is so old......just go away.Ā
Yes.Since you spelled Pence āPenseā in back to back posts and this is your reply I have to ask, do you know how to spell it yet? It doesnāt surprise me you can repeat Penceās talking points about how great trump is.Ā
Stop with the safe space nonsense. Ā If you canāt handle questions about the man you support, thatās on you, not me.Your act is so old......just go away. A whole forum was created as your safe space, just this thread without you would be excellent. TIA.Ā
Iāll say Iām happy to see an actual policy discussion but first of all itās funny itĀ took Pence to enunciate that, not Trump. Secondly I see maybe 5Ā things both uniquely done by Trump and that also we could say did actually happen. Military spending, border policy, Jerusalem embassy, USSC picks, taxes.I can repeat everything Mike Pense said if you'd like. Some of them are debatable, but, others are undeniable even if you disagree with them.Ā
Rebuilt our military, most military spending since Regan.
Wiped out ISIS (from Syria I presume).
Moved Israel embassy to Jerusalem, something several other presidents promised and never did.Ā
Increased access to care and resources for our Vets.Ā
Supported police to reduce crime rates.Ā
Implemented programs to address the opioid crisis.Ā
Spent a lot of effort and money to secure the boarder.Ā
Appointed two supreme court justices that will protect the second amendment and support right to life.Ā
Brought back jobs with lowest unemployment rates in 50 years.Ā
Cut taxes.Ā Ā
Thereās always theĀ Ā part in the old personāsĀ rock concert when the band, after singing several of the classic hits, says āwe put out a new album last month and weāre gong to play a couple songs from itā. Thatās when the crowd goes to use the bathroom, gets food, more beer, etc. Pretty soon the old songs start again.ĀI didn't see the rally.Ā What new talking points did Trump have to get people excited for a second term?Ā Did he talk about anything new to gain any new voters?
Also how is it something that āmakes America greatā?Iāve always beenĀ :whoosh: about what is conservative or Republican about the Jerusalem move also. Why is that something Republicans care about? Itās almost as if Trump just plucked it out of thin air.Ā
And as I understand it Israelās foreign policy is still conducted in Tel Aviv and thatās where almost all of the worldās foreign policy establishment is... and we are now in another city. Itās like the US deciding to move its Russian embassy to St. Petersburg all by ourselves because Lenin illegally moved the capital in 1917.
I agree, I don't know. Trump is constantly shifting on this. So MAG means isolationism and nationalism in foreign policy, but the US is sticking itself into the hottest of foreign controversies and putting its people at risk with that move. In fact I think part of the law that required that move also created a certification that the US would not be increasing risk to personnel in doing it and Trump never had that certification done. IIRC Trump just signed another waiver, just like every other president, because he could not do that.ĀAlso how is it something that āmakes America greatā?
Have there been any forum rules broken?It appears our thread that was created in good faith has attracted someĀ of the usual suspects that ruin other threads Ā Ā This is an outstanding opportunity for @FBG ModeratorĀ and @Joe 8ryantĀ to round them up for the good of the order Ā Ā
Round people up for what? Ā Posting in topic and asking legitimate questions?It appears our thread that was created in good faith has attracted someĀ of the usual suspects that ruin other threads Ā Ā This is an outstanding opportunity for @FBG ModeratorĀ and @Joe 8ryantĀ to round them up for the good of the order Ā Ā
You have been trolling since this thread started. Ā Stop. ĀRound people up for what? Ā Posting in topic and asking legitimate questions?
Posts like this and ones telling people to go away or that they crapping in every thread bring down the discourse far more than people asking questions.
Also, you tagged the wrong Joe.
That is a serious accusation and I have done nothing of the sort. Ā Disagreement and questions are not trolling.ĀYou have been trolling since this thread started. Ā Stop. Ā
Seriously? I have seen so many comments about this forum being a liberal echo chamber.It appears our thread that was created in good faith has attracted someĀ of the usual suspects that ruin other threads Ā Ā This is an outstanding opportunity for @FBG ModeratorĀ and @Joe 8ryantĀ to round them up for the good of the order Ā Ā
Yes. He is going to cure cancer.Didn't watch. Didn't want to watch.
But did he lay out, anything, anything at all he plans to do?
Or was it all attacking and cheap lazy shots?
Not at all. Ā I would like to see ONE thread thatās not ruined by the same people. Ā Itās been pointed out by people from both sides of the aisle already. Ā ĀSeriously? I have seen so many comments about this forum being a liberal echo chamber.
Sounds like you want this to be a conservative echo chamber and you are getting upset because people aren't following your orders.
Wow
I better not sy anymore or I will get banned
Are you confident about the accuracy of this assertion?ĀHe assured us the wall is being built despite all the Democrat opposition. Ā
They are building small portions of the wall. Ā It is not getting done as quickly as his supporters want. Ā We blame the Democrats. ĀAre you confident about the accuracy of this assertion?Ā
Gulp. You just described me going to see the Stones in a couple of monthsĀThereās always theĀ Ā part in the old personāsĀ rock concert when the band, after singing several of the classic hits, says āwe put out a new album last month and weāre gong to play a couple songs from itā. Thatās when the crowd goes to use the bathroom, gets food, more beer, etc. Pretty soon the old songs start again.Ā
Unfinished business is actually a pretty good strategy.Ā I've always felt that 4 years was not enough time for any President to fully implement what they are trying to do.Last night was good. Ā It was a pep rally. Ā He focused on accomplishments, pointing out blockers of his agenda, and rallied the troops by painting a picture of what life will be like if we donāt keep moving forward with the MAGA movement. Ā He assured us the wall is being built despite all the Democrat opposition. Ā I think unfinished business is going to be his main theme for a while. Ā Itās going to play well especially if the Dems take the impeachment course. Ā
These rallies are Trump in his element and nobody on either side has the charisma to work a crowd like Trump. Ā
So, you want this thread to be only posters of like mind and opposition posts are not allowed?Not at all. Ā I would like to see ONE thread thatās not ruined by the same people. Ā Itās been pointed out by people from both sides of the aisle already. Ā Ā
There is a reason I choose Mike to quote.Iāll say Iām happy to see an actual policy discussion but first of all itās funny itĀ took Pence to enunciate that, not Trump. Secondly I see maybe 5Ā things both uniquely done by Trump and that also we could say did actually happen. Military spending, border policy, Jerusalem embassy, USSC picks, taxes.
Iām not arguing about policy here, just the claims that Trump did them or that they happened.