Tush Push - Do the rules apply for this play or not? Doesn't seem like it (2 Viewers)

[need2know]

I thought it was odd that the Eagles didn't run it at all against NE. And there were times they needed to.

I can't think of any. Their offensive playcalling was odd though. Felt like they barely had the ball in the first half and had a bunch of punts in the second

One of the 4th quarter drives was 4th and 2 and they kicked a 51-yard field goal. They were up 8 points at the time, and with another first down, they could have taken a few more minutes off the clock and worse case still kicked a FG. They would have still been up 11 points, but they could have run the clock down another two minutes.

There was another 4th and 2 right before the 2:00 minute warning that they passed and didn't convert. Last year, I think they would have run the wedge play. This week, it didn't even seem like they thought much about it. That gave NE the ball back with just under two minutes left almost at midfield with a chance for the Pats to win.

Ok yeah
I think going for the fg was the right call

The second one you mentioned hurts still ran it but that's farther than what they usually go for with the push. Although I still think they did that a couple.times last year

 

[need2know]

I thought it was odd that the Eagles didn't run it at all against NE. And there were times they needed to.

I can't think of any. Their offensive playcalling was odd though. Felt like they barely had the ball in the first half and had a bunch of punts in the second

One of the 4th quarter drives was 4th and 2 and they kicked a 51-yard field goal. They were up 8 points at the time, and with another first down, they could have taken a few more minutes off the clock and worse case still kicked a FG. They would have still been up 11 points, but they could have run the clock down another two minutes.

There was another 4th and 2 right before the 2:00 minute warning that they passed and didn't convert. Last year, I think they would have run the wedge play. This week, it didn't even seem like they thought much about it. That gave NE the ball back with just under two minutes left almost at midfield with a chance for the Pats to win.

Also I was impressed with the Patriots. Thry played well. Gonna a be better than alot think

 

[need2know]

It's working again you haters!

 

[GoBirds]

It's working again you haters!

Great play. The best play.

 

[Desert_Power]

Worst play in the league and should be illegal.

 

[trader jake]

Worst play in the league and should be illegal.

Yup. Very exciting goal line plays for the Eagles tonight. The defensive strategies the Vikings attempted were also innovative. You just knew defensive coaches would come with something during the offseason.

 

[Amused to Death]

Worst play in the league and should be illegal.

And yet only one team in the league runs it successfully, so sure - ban it. Sorry your team can't stop it. No player has been hurt, other teams try it and fail. But sure, ban it because the Eagles are successful.

Ridiculous.

 

[need2know]

Gonna see it again this game. Just wait

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Worst play in the league and should be illegal.

And yet only one team in the league runs it successfully, so sure - ban it. Sorry your team can't stop it. No player has been hurt, other teams try it and fail. But sure, ban it because the Eagles are successful.

Ridiculous.

This narrative is fun

 

[Amused to Death]

It's working again you haters!

Great play. The best play.

So much better and more exciting than a punt or a FG. Sorry if other teams can't run it or stop it.

 

[Desert_Power]

Worst play in the league and should be illegal.

And yet only one team in the league runs it successfully, so sure - ban it. Sorry your team can't stop it. No player has been hurt, other teams try it and fail. But sure, ban it because the Eagles are successful.

Ridiculous.

It's not football.

Ridiculous.

 

[mike9289]

I hate it. It used to be illegal.

 

[GoBirds]

Worst play in the league and should be illegal.

And yet only one team in the league runs it successfully, so sure - ban it. Sorry your team can't stop it. No player has been hurt, other teams try it and fail. But sure, ban it because the Eagles are successful.

Ridiculous.

It's not football.

Ridiculous.

Sorry you can’t tackle.

 

[trader jake]

GUTSY call on 4tb down!

 

[need2know]

Might see it again!

 

[Desert_Power]

I hate it. It used to be illegal.

Should still be illegal. Terrible.

 

[JohnnyU]

Worst play in the league and should be illegal.

And yet only one team in the league runs it successfully, so sure - ban it. Sorry your team can't stop it. No player has been hurt, other teams try it and fail. But sure, ban it because the Eagles are successful.

Ridiculous.

It's not football.

Ridiculous.

Rugby

 

[trader jake]

Worst play in the league and should be illegal.

And yet only one team in the league runs it successfully, so sure - ban it. Sorry your team can't stop it. No player has been hurt, other teams try it and fail. But sure, ban it because the Eagles are successful.

Ridiculous.

Just wait. It'll happen.

Even though nobody wants that, which is one of the many reasons why pushing a ball carrier from behind the line of scrimmage should be a penalty.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Worst play in the league and should be illegal.

And yet only one team in the league runs it successfully, so sure - ban it. Sorry your team can't stop it. No player has been hurt, other teams try it and fail. But sure, ban it because the Eagles are successful.

Ridiculous.

It's not football.

Ridiculous.

Rugby

Being a massive rugby fan, I hate this comparison so often made in these discussions. The action on the QB push play is not remotely comparable to anything that happens in a rugby game. Rugby is far more dynamic and intense - a superior game to football both as a player and spectator.

 

[Deamon]

Worst play in the league and should be illegal.

And yet only one team in the league runs it successfully, so sure - ban it. Sorry your team can't stop it. No player has been hurt, other teams try it and fail. But sure, ban it because the Eagles are successful.

Ridiculous.

It's not football.

Ridiculous.

Rugby

Being a massive rugby fan, I hate this comparison so often made in these discussions. The action on the QB push play is not remotely comparable to anything that happens in a rugby game. Rugby is far more dynamic and intense - a superior game to football both as a player and spectator.

I agree... it's not rugby at all.

 

[Deamon]

I hate it. It used to be illegal.

Should still be illegal. Terrible.

do you ever get tired of posting the same thing 25 times a day?

 

[Desert_Power]

I hate it. It used to be illegal.

Should still be illegal. Terrible.

do you ever get tired of posting the same thing 25 times a day?

Not as tired as I get of watching this chickenshit play.

 

[renesauz]

Worst play in the league and should be illegal.

Yup. Very exciting goal line plays for the Eagles tonight. The defensive strategies the Vikings attempted were also innovative. You just knew defensive coaches would come with something during the offseason.

Oddly enough, we've seen it tried twice already this year by other teams....and they both FAILED.

Football grew from rugby, so it's absolutely a football play. Injuries in the NFL come from awkward angles and MOMENTUM....there's no momentum on this play, and not much for awkward angles, so even the injury risk call is bogus.
There's zero reason to outlaw this.

 

[Desert_Power]

Worst play in the league and should be illegal.

Yup. Very exciting goal line plays for the Eagles tonight. The defensive strategies the Vikings attempted were also innovative. You just knew defensive coaches would come with something during the offseason.

Oddly enough, we've seen it tried twice already this year by other teams....and they both FAILED.

Football grew from rugby, so it's absolutely a football play. Injuries in the NFL come from awkward angles and MOMENTUM....there's no momentum on this play, and not much for awkward angles, so even the injury risk call is bogus.
There's zero reason to outlaw this.

Biggest reason to outlaw it is because it sucks.

 

[Deamon]

I hate it. It used to be illegal.

Should still be illegal. Terrible.

do you ever get tired of posting the same thing 25 times a day?

Not as tired as I get of watching this chickenshit play.

you seem fun

 

[Desert_Power]

I hate it. It used to be illegal.

Should still be illegal. Terrible.

do you ever get tired of posting the same thing 25 times a day?

Not as tired as I get of watching this chickenshit play.

you seem fun

More fun than watching the Eagles.

 

[Deamon]

Why is nobody this upset/concerned about injuries with QB sneaks?

 

[Deamon]

I hate it. It used to be illegal.

Should still be illegal. Terrible.

do you ever get tired of posting the same thing 25 times a day?

Not as tired as I get of watching this chickenshit play.

you seem fun

More fun than watching the Eagles.

Yet you still do it.

 

[Amused to Death]

Why is nobody this upset/concerned about injuries with QB sneaks?

Or the QBs who get injured in the pocket almost weekly? We need to ban the forward pass - QBs keep getting hurt!!

 

[Deamon]

Why is nobody this upset/concerned about injuries with QB sneaks?

Or the QBs who get injured in the pocket almost weekly? We need to ban the forward pass - QBs keep getting hurt!!

Yep... people who are against it will scratch and claw for any reason. There's zero concerns with player compared to any other play.

 

[Desert_Power]

I hate it. It used to be illegal.

Should still be illegal. Terrible.

do you ever get tired of posting the same thing 25 times a day?

Not as tired as I get of watching this chickenshit play.

you seem fun

More fun than watching the Eagles.

Yet you still do it.

You got me there. Watching football and talking about it in the football forum. Maybe they should play more football and less of this push play BS.

 

[Deamon]

I hate it. It used to be illegal.

Should still be illegal. Terrible.

do you ever get tired of posting the same thing 25 times a day?

Not as tired as I get of watching this chickenshit play.

you seem fun

More fun than watching the Eagles.

Yet you still do it.

You got me there. Watching football and talking about it in the football forum. Maybe they should play more football and less of this push play BS.

Damn, you sound really emotionally damaged from this legal football play.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I didn't realize that people found traditional QB sneaks or 1yd HB smashes into the pile to be such riveting, dynamic plays that we're missing out on from the Eagles.

The good news is the rest of the league put up a big fat donut on converting the push the pile play this week so we'll still get that incredible smash into the pile for 1yd entertainment out of the other 31 teams!

 

[Desert_Power]

I hate it. It used to be illegal.

Should still be illegal. Terrible.

do you ever get tired of posting the same thing 25 times a day?

Not as tired as I get of watching this chickenshit play.

you seem fun

More fun than watching the Eagles.

Yet you still do it.

You got me there. Watching football and talking about it in the football forum. Maybe they should play more football and less of this push play BS.

Damn, you sound really emotionally damaged from this legal football play.

The play sucks more than your pathetic insult attempts.

 

[Deamon]

I hate it. It used to be illegal.

Should still be illegal. Terrible.

do you ever get tired of posting the same thing 25 times a day?

Not as tired as I get of watching this chickenshit play.

you seem fun

More fun than watching the Eagles.

Yet you still do it.

You got me there. Watching football and talking about it in the football forum. Maybe they should play more football and less of this push play BS.

Damn, you sound really emotionally damaged from this legal football play.

The play sucks more than your pathetic insult attempts.

Good... I'm glad you get to watch it all year and no one cares if you like it or not. It's gonna keep happening.

 

[Judge Smails]

Hate it

 

[Desert_Power]

I hate it. It used to be illegal.

Should still be illegal. Terrible.

do you ever get tired of posting the same thing 25 times a day?

Not as tired as I get of watching this chickenshit play.

you seem fun

More fun than watching the Eagles.

Yet you still do it.

You got me there. Watching football and talking about it in the football forum. Maybe they should play more football and less of this push play BS.

Damn, you sound really emotionally damaged from this legal football play.

The play sucks more than your pathetic insult attempts.

Good... I'm glad you get to watch it all year and no one cares if you like it or not. It's gonna keep happening.

You obviously care because you keep responding to defend it. Maybe you know your fraudulent team would be exposed without it.

 

[Deamon]

I hate it. It used to be illegal.

Should still be illegal. Terrible.

do you ever get tired of posting the same thing 25 times a day?

Not as tired as I get of watching this chickenshit play.

you seem fun

More fun than watching the Eagles.

Yet you still do it.

You got me there. Watching football and talking about it in the football forum. Maybe they should play more football and less of this push play BS.

Damn, you sound really emotionally damaged from this legal football play.

The play sucks more than your pathetic insult attempts.

Good... I'm glad you get to watch it all year and no one cares if you like it or not. It's gonna keep happening.

You obviously care because you keep responding to defend it. Maybe you know your fraudulent team would be exposed without it.

Excited for more whining next week when they run this legal football play again while you're glued to the tv.

 

[Desert_Power]

I hate it. It used to be illegal.

Should still be illegal. Terrible.

do you ever get tired of posting the same thing 25 times a day?

Not as tired as I get of watching this chickenshit play.

you seem fun

More fun than watching the Eagles.

Yet you still do it.

You got me there. Watching football and talking about it in the football forum. Maybe they should play more football and less of this push play BS.

Damn, you sound really emotionally damaged from this legal football play.

The play sucks more than your pathetic insult attempts.

Good... I'm glad you get to watch it all year and no one cares if you like it or not. It's gonna keep happening.

You obviously care because you keep responding to defend it. Maybe you know your fraudulent team would be exposed without it.

Excited for more whining next week when they run this legal football play again while you're glued to the tv.

Yeah, it's a shame that the highly overrated Eagles will be in prime time again next week with this play that should be illegal.

 

[Deamon]

I hate it. It used to be illegal.

Should still be illegal. Terrible.

do you ever get tired of posting the same thing 25 times a day?

Not as tired as I get of watching this chickenshit play.

you seem fun

More fun than watching the Eagles.

Yet you still do it.

You got me there. Watching football and talking about it in the football forum. Maybe they should play more football and less of this push play BS.

Damn, you sound really emotionally damaged from this legal football play.

The play sucks more than your pathetic insult attempts.

Good... I'm glad you get to watch it all year and no one cares if you like it or not. It's gonna keep happening.

You obviously care because you keep responding to defend it. Maybe you know your fraudulent team would be exposed without it.

Excited for more whining next week when they run this legal football play again while you're glued to the tv.

Yeah, it's a shame that the highly overrated Eagles will be in prime time again next week with this play that should be illegal.

Great. Excited for you to watch them win, and hopefully get a few touchdowns from the play that the majority of people think should be legal. Hope you really enjoy the game

 

[Desert_Power]

I hate it. It used to be illegal.

Should still be illegal. Terrible.

do you ever get tired of posting the same thing 25 times a day?

Not as tired as I get of watching this chickenshit play.

you seem fun

More fun than watching the Eagles.

Yet you still do it.

You got me there. Watching football and talking about it in the football forum. Maybe they should play more football and less of this push play BS.

Damn, you sound really emotionally damaged from this legal football play.

The play sucks more than your pathetic insult attempts.

Good... I'm glad you get to watch it all year and no one cares if you like it or not. It's gonna keep happening.

You obviously care because you keep responding to defend it. Maybe you know your fraudulent team would be exposed without it.

Excited for more whining next week when they run this legal football play again while you're glued to the tv.

Yeah, it's a shame that the highly overrated Eagles will be in prime time again next week with this play that should be illegal.

Great. Excited for you to watch them win, and hopefully get a few touchdowns from the play that the majority of people think should be legal. Hope you really enjoy the game

Probably won't be as enjoyable as watching the Eagles lose in the Super Bowl, for sure.

 

[Deamon]

I hate it. It used to be illegal.

Should still be illegal. Terrible.

do you ever get tired of posting the same thing 25 times a day?

Not as tired as I get of watching this chickenshit play.

you seem fun

More fun than watching the Eagles.

Yet you still do it.

You got me there. Watching football and talking about it in the football forum. Maybe they should play more football and less of this push play BS.

Damn, you sound really emotionally damaged from this legal football play.

The play sucks more than your pathetic insult attempts.

Good... I'm glad you get to watch it all year and no one cares if you like it or not. It's gonna keep happening.

You obviously care because you keep responding to defend it. Maybe you know your fraudulent team would be exposed without it.

Excited for more whining next week when they run this legal football play again while you're glued to the tv.

Yeah, it's a shame that the highly overrated Eagles will be in prime time again next week with this play that should be illegal.

Great. Excited for you to watch them win, and hopefully get a few touchdowns from the play that the majority of people think should be legal. Hope you really enjoy the game

Probably won't be as enjoyable as watching the Eagles lose in the Super Bowl, for sure.

GOOD ONE!!! Simply hilarious coming from a Panthers fan lol

Enjoy our game next week... we'll try to do you a favour and beat the Buccs for ya.

 

[Desert_Power]

I hate it. It used to be illegal.

Should still be illegal. Terrible.

do you ever get tired of posting the same thing 25 times a day?

Not as tired as I get of watching this chickenshit play.

you seem fun

More fun than watching the Eagles.

Yet you still do it.

You got me there. Watching football and talking about it in the football forum. Maybe they should play more football and less of this push play BS.

Damn, you sound really emotionally damaged from this legal football play.

The play sucks more than your pathetic insult attempts.

Good... I'm glad you get to watch it all year and no one cares if you like it or not. It's gonna keep happening.

You obviously care because you keep responding to defend it. Maybe you know your fraudulent team would be exposed without it.

Excited for more whining next week when they run this legal football play again while you're glued to the tv.

Yeah, it's a shame that the highly overrated Eagles will be in prime time again next week with this play that should be illegal.

Great. Excited for you to watch them win, and hopefully get a few touchdowns from the play that the majority of people think should be legal. Hope you really enjoy the game

Probably won't be as enjoyable as watching the Eagles lose in the Super Bowl, for sure.

GOOD ONE!!! Simply hilarious coming from a Panthers fan lol

Enjoy our game next week... we'll try to do you a favour and beat the Buccs for ya.

You don't know anything about me. Definitely pulling for Tampa to beat your fraudulent team, but I doubt they will.

 

[Deamon]

I hate it. It used to be illegal.

Should still be illegal. Terrible.

do you ever get tired of posting the same thing 25 times a day?

Not as tired as I get of watching this chickenshit play.

you seem fun

More fun than watching the Eagles.

Yet you still do it.

You got me there. Watching football and talking about it in the football forum. Maybe they should play more football and less of this push play BS.

Damn, you sound really emotionally damaged from this legal football play.

The play sucks more than your pathetic insult attempts.

Good... I'm glad you get to watch it all year and no one cares if you like it or not. It's gonna keep happening.

You obviously care because you keep responding to defend it. Maybe you know your fraudulent team would be exposed without it.

Excited for more whining next week when they run this legal football play again while you're glued to the tv.

Yeah, it's a shame that the highly overrated Eagles will be in prime time again next week with this play that should be illegal.

Great. Excited for you to watch them win, and hopefully get a few touchdowns from the play that the majority of people think should be legal. Hope you really enjoy the game

Probably won't be as enjoyable as watching the Eagles lose in the Super Bowl, for sure.

GOOD ONE!!! Simply hilarious coming from a Panthers fan lol

Enjoy our game next week... we'll try to do you a favour and beat the Buccs for ya.

You don't know anything about me. Definitely pulling for Tampa to beat your fraudulent team, but I doubt they will.

good, hope you enjoy another Eagles game of being upset afterwards and rushing to the computer to say you don't like the play! See ya then!

 

[rockaction]

I mean, it even says "Ignored Member" has posted, but I can't see it. I love it.

 

[Desert_Power]

Probably won't be as enjoyable as watching the Eagles lose in the Super Bowl, for sure.

Cowboys are going to win their division anyway.

You know how the PSF was horrible and some of the personalities horrible? I don't and didn't really use the ignore function, even for that type of stuff. I certainly haven't ignored really anybody here on this board in years except for a particular ankle biter Eagles fan. I'll let your powers of deduction figure out who that is.

I honestly forgot about that function. Gave everyone amnesty when the PSF shutdown.

Not sure the Boys are as good as they looked against the Giants but that defense is scary.

 

[rockaction]

Not sure the Boys are as good as they looked against the Giants but that defense is scary.

They're not, really. I just like overreacting from Week One. If Philly plays pass defense like they did tonight, though, all bets are off on that team.

Good thing they've got a couple of scheduled cupcakes the next three weeks. Give the defensive backs some time to heal up there. Because tonight? They didn't look so hot.

 

[RenegadeRoy]

Might be time to move this thread to the free for all.

 

[infantsam]

Ridiculous to consider stopping this play. It’s the root of football. We knock you down and move forward. Every other play is designed to do this just with wrinkkes

The only possible arguments are dirty players in the pile and the refs ability to monitor forward progress

I’m pretty sure dirty players get what they deserve and quickly.

And the refs are fine. The game is played in real time not hi def 4k with 50 cameras

I’ll at least offer this and I’m a Steeler fan

It’s the best thing I’ve seen in football for a while. My 11 against your 11

What do you want? A jet sweep? WR screen?

 

[OU#1]

It’s just a QB sneak. People have been pushing behind for years doing this. Chillax