NewlyRetired
Footballguy
It is hard to not realize that almost every other striker we have scores that ball early that Jesus could not direct on goal. Jesus is by far the weakest in the air.
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NewlyRetired
Footballguy
I see it on top and bottom in my browser. I am using chrome.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Well one thing is that you can't place blame on any one player. I think every player struggled with give aways.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
42 giveaways in the defensive third in a half seems like kind of a problem. Even when there's time to make a pass they're hitting it straight to a defender.
Probably the worst collective performance in the last couple years. Even in some of those early WCQ games they were unlucky not to get the W. Here they might be lucky to only be down on.
Probably the worst collective performance in the last couple years. Even in some of those early WCQ games they were unlucky not to get the W. Here they might be lucky to only be down on.
prefontaine
Footballguy
Well, a game like this exposes a few things
1) Trying to play out of the back with Turner, Long, Zimmerman and a 6 that struggles for progressive passes is probably not an effective strategy against a pressing side
2) When we go through the middle, there needs to be a lot of quick touches, triangles, and/or progressive dribbling skills. LDT has been a bit invisible and hasn't really provided any of this
3) the fullbacks have to be an outlet. Vines can't work in this system if he's going to just sit back as it doesn't spread the press and open passing lanes
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
42 giveaways in the defensive third and Yedlin isn't even in the game. Amazing.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
He's probably thinking that he has a chance to play now that everyone else sucks.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
I hope Iran does not have this style of press. Japan and SK usually stand alone in the ability to tight press so hopefully the other Asian team adopted different styles.
TripleThreat
Footballguy
Iran is gonna be a tough match
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
Actually 54 times! How is that even possible? U8 teams don't do that!
TripleThreat
Footballguy
that's a yellow card. WTF
TripleThreat
Footballguy
McKenzie has looked the part. Best pairing with Zimmerman that I've seen since Miles.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
I feel like I've known about Kubo for like five years, but this is the first time I've seen him play.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Thankfully this is an exhibition- hopefully it’s a wake up call because they aren’t beating anyone in their group playing like this.
prefontaine
Footballguy
Are you on mobile? I'm using Chrome and don't see it anywhere
PIK95
Footballguy
A 3-5-2 would have been my choice, happy to hear he tried. Nice to have that in pocket in case of emergency.
TripleThreat
Footballguy
How Luca gets a yellow and studs to the back of the AAronson's leg doesn't is still beyond me.
TripleThreat
Footballguy
sadly yes.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
Feel like you miss a big marketing opportunity by not giving Johnny the number five shirt.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I think FOX has the World Cup.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Nice effort from Aronson at least
TripleThreat
Footballguy
A-Aronson is by far my fav player to root for. love the relentless action.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
SpurrierisisGod
Footballguy
Gross. Defense ungood.
TripleThreat
Footballguy
US deserves this L
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Well a fully awful performance. If not for Turner, this should have been a 4-5 goal loss, which based on the game state would have been a fair result.
I wonder if US Soccer has to rethink whether they need one friendly before the Wales game.....if this is what it looks like after a long lay off, I am not hopeful for the first game against Wales with out some time to get the rust off.
I wonder if US Soccer has to rethink whether they need one friendly before the Wales game.....if this is what it looks like after a long lay off, I am not hopeful for the first game against Wales with out some time to get the rust off.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
I have no idea how the GGGG will respond to this. If Musah, CP, and Jedi are out, this team is a shell of its potential capacity.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
On desktop. Maybe I am misunderstanding what you guys are talking about. Here is a picture of the top of my FFA page here in this thread which shows the page numbers and how to advance (on left of screen)
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NewlyRetired
Footballguy
We have no luck on injuries so I expect we will be missing 2-3 starters no matter what.
Neither Musah or Pulisic are really hurt though. This was just precautionary. Valencia asked GGG to let Musah rest and Pulisic would have played today if it was a WC game.
PIK95
Footballguy
I don't have that on my android mobile. I tried to post a screen shot, but I guess it's still not 2022 in message board land.
Maybe I am misunderstanding what you guys are talking about. Here is a picture of the top of my FFA page here in this thread which shows the page numbers and how to advance (on left of screen)
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The Z Machine
Footballguy
How did Gio look?
ETA: looks like he only played the first half.
ETA: looks like he only played the first half.
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The Z Machine
Footballguy
I think Musah is more important than CP on this team.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
the left side was used VERY little in the first half. He did have a couple of nice touches and passes but was not involved as much as he needs to be.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
* The US had many less giveaways in the second half but alarmingly, Japan actually had better scoring chances in the second half compared to the first half. Japan had multiple easy counters in second half.
* I believe the US did not have a shot on goal. While I am sure that has happened before, the number of times has to be incredibly small in the post 1990 era.
* Sargent looked much more lively than Jesus did who barely touched the ball outside of his poor header.
As nice as the two wins were this summer against Morocco and Uruguay, this is probably a better indication of what things will look like in Qatar since we really suck when not playing at home. And lets face it, Japan is SIGNIFICATLY closer in quality to Iran and Wales than they are England.
* I believe the US did not have a shot on goal. While I am sure that has happened before, the number of times has to be incredibly small in the post 1990 era.
* Sargent looked much more lively than Jesus did who barely touched the ball outside of his poor header.
As nice as the two wins were this summer against Morocco and Uruguay, this is probably a better indication of what things will look like in Qatar since we really suck when not playing at home. And lets face it, Japan is SIGNIFICATLY closer in quality to Iran and Wales than they are England.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
it is even more egregious when Adams short passing is as bad as it was today. Passing is the weakest part of his game but he was spectacularly poor today at it.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
The worst part about this is it provides an excellent blueprint for our opponents to deploy against us at the WC. If the USMNT cannot break the press through skill or change their tactics / formation to remove the effectiveness of that press, the US is 100% fuxored.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Specifically for this game, Musah would have been a million times more important. Pulisic offers nothing to a team that can't get out of their own 3rd, and Musah's strongest skill is solving problems to get the attack going (something Luca could not do at all today).
But we can't lament missing players when missing players is the norm. We have to expect multiple would be first choice players will be missing in Qatar because it has been that way with this group for almost the entire cycle.
TLEF316
Footballguy
Not gonna totally jump off the wagon after 1 bad exhibition loss, but things really seem to be foreshadowing a really bad performance in Qatar.
We've got multiple guys who are expected to play key roles but probably wont be playing full time leading up to the tournament (CP, Dest, Turner)
We've got multiple players that missed big chunks of qualifying (or are hurt now) and just aren't used to playing with the team.
Our #1 striker choice is clearly a very inconsistent/poor finisher
Long is going to start at CB and he's just way outclassed.
Our coach seems to have no flexibility in system and EVERYONE knows exactly what we're going to try and do.
We've been bad away from home for a while.
I honestly think this is going to go very poorly.
Maybe adding CP, Jedi and Musah back into the team just solves everything....but I'm skeptical.
We've got multiple guys who are expected to play key roles but probably wont be playing full time leading up to the tournament (CP, Dest, Turner)
We've got multiple players that missed big chunks of qualifying (or are hurt now) and just aren't used to playing with the team.
Our #1 striker choice is clearly a very inconsistent/poor finisher
Long is going to start at CB and he's just way outclassed.
Our coach seems to have no flexibility in system and EVERYONE knows exactly what we're going to try and do.
We've been bad away from home for a while.
I honestly think this is going to go very poorly.
Maybe adding CP, Jedi and Musah back into the team just solves everything....but I'm skeptical.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
This is my point about being flexible about the tactics. You have to adjust to the players you have available. If that means booting it long by the goalie because the CBs and #6 can't pass out of a press, then do it. If that means that you abandon the 4-3-3 that you love then so be it.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
GGG's weakest part of his coaching is his game prep. The team rarely looks ready to play coming out of the shoot. GGG does do better at in game adjustments at half time but that is far too late in a WC group stage game. We might not have the hardest group but this group of players still needs to be playing at its best for 90 minutes if we hope to advance.
Hopefully things will look better against Saudi next week.
tonysmiles
Footballguy
I expected a lot more continuity from this starting XI being so close to Qatar but was let down in the performance. If you look at the true powerhouses of the world which we want to be considered as one they rotate starting XI consistently unless it is a major tournament and they find an ebb and flow within the first quarter hour. We cannot do that as a team and it is frustrating. To reach the next level you have to play without missing a beat with whatever XI are on the field.
tonysmiles
Footballguy
Go down 1 - 0 early to Wales or England and if they tack on a second in Qatar put us down for a goose egg. I did not see anything to get excited about in Qatar from this squad today Nothing
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