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The Toronto FC star and U.S. national team captain was the subject of a $5 million transfer offer that the MLS club rejected, a source confirmed to Goal USA.Michael Bradley has been sidelined with a knee injury since the Copa America Centenario, but that time away hasn't cooled off interest in his services from clubs in Europe.Toronto FC recently rejected a $5 million transfer offer for Bradley from a team in one of Europe's top four leagues, a source with knowledge of the offer confirmed to Goal USA.Though it remains unclear which team stepped up with the bid, recent reports in Italy have linked Serie A clubs Sampdoria and Torino with interest in the former AS Roma midfielder.“We regularly get interest for Sebastian [Giovinco], Jozy [Altidore] and Michael -- all of them,” TFC general manager Tim Bezbatchenko told the Toronto Sun last week .“It’s a matter of understanding that these players aren’t for sale. Again, if there was an offer we couldn’t refuse, then it’s something we would entertain but for the most part it’s a polite decline -- thank you but no thank you.”

 
Sinn Fein said:
US Mens-Bi-Trans Rugby Team?
It's the US Men's Bikini Thong Rollerblading Team.  Their mission is to bring to life classic plays of the 30s and 40s as performed by men in bikini thongs on rollerblades.

'Friends for several reasons, the US Men's Bikini Thong Rollerblading Team is not sponsored by the Olympic Committee. If you've enjoyed these productions of classic plays of the 30's and 40's by men in bikini thongs on roller blades, then please make a donation, however small, to the USMBTRT. A twenty-five dollar donation gets you this handsome US Men's Bikini Thong Rollerblading Team duffel bag and the US Men's Bikini Thong Rollerblading Team Classics on tape. Your choice of "You Can't Take it with You," or Lillian Helman's popular favorite, "The Little Foxes." The perfect gift for certain occasions.'
 

 
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El Floppo said:
can't wait to see that St V&G stadium/runway in action.
This could be the least watched US qualifier this cycle.

The combination of beIN Sport, no Spanish broadcaster (yet) and the game in the middle of the day during the week are all going to combine to not getting many eye balls.

Might even be for the best because I fear with the field this is going to be one very ugly game.   3 points of any kind will be more than welcome.  Style and grace are going to go on the back burner I think.

 
Latest on Bedoya. This is the 3rd straight season Chicago is involved in one of these as the "other team"2 years ago was with NE and Joneslast year was with Montreal and DrogbaJeff CarlisleVerified account‏@JeffreyCarlisleWill go down to the wire.Philly still has inside track but #cf97 making a push since it has No. 1 alloc slot. #DOOP
It's offical.  Bedoya leaving Nantes to join the Union.  FIRE!!!  to receive a sack o' Garbux

https://twitter.com/fcnantes/status/760853405871071233

 
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It's offical.  Bedoya leaving Nantes to join the Union.  FIRE!!!  to receive a sack o' Garbux

https://twitter.com/fcnantes/status/760853405871071233
More info...

http://www.espnfc.us/story/2922337/alejandro-bedoya-to-join-philadelphia-union-from-nantes-sources

U.S. international midfielder Alejandro Bedoya has signed with Major League Soccer and will become a member of the Philadelphia Union, according to multiple sources.

With the Chicago Fire holding the top spot in the league's allocation order for returning MLS players and select U.S. internationals, and also having an interest in signing Bedoya, the Union acquired the player's rights via a sign-and-trade with Fire.

Chicago acquired both general and targeted allocation money, a 2017 first round draft pick and discovery rights on an player whose name not disclosed as well as Philadelphia's spot in allocation order. That spot will now be first, since Philly was sitting at No. 2.

Back in January, the Fire traded away the No. 1 spot in the allocation order to the Colorado Rapids in exchange for the No. 2 spot and two first round draft picks.

The Rapids used the No. 1 spot to acquire U.S. international goalkeeper Tim Howard, thus allowing the Fire to move back into the No. 1 position.

Sources told ESPN FC that Bedoya's move will include a $1 million transfer fee and a salary of $1 million.

Nantes confirmed the transfer on Wednesday via Twitter.

 
I think Ale is going to be happy with that salary if he did get the $1m a year.

Ted, any word on the length of the deal?  I am guessing 3 years.

 
Wait so the group matches get started before the opening ceremony?
yes, that happens all the time in Olympic soccer because they need the extra time to fit the schedule in before the games end.

I believe other sports like gymnastics also kick off before the opening ceremonies

 
Might even be for the best because I fear with the field this is going to be one very ugly game.   3 points of any kind will be more than welcome.  Style and grace are going to go on the back burner I think.
Maybe I'm interpreting wrong but are you concerned we won't get 3 points? I'm more worried about the Trinidad match, even though we're home, that StV away. They are 0-4 with a -16 GD. I think you're right that it could be a very ugly match but I'd be down right shocked if the outcome is anything other than 3 points.

Guat @ Trinidad will be very interesting. Best case is obviously we take care of business and Trinidad wins at home. That happens and Trinidad has 13 pts, US has 10 and Guat is still at 6 making our last match against Trinidad moot.

 
Maybe I'm interpreting wrong but are you concerned we won't get 3 points?
Concerned might be overstating it but history tells us we might have some issues.

The US is CLEARLY the better side but when you play on these god awful fields (assuming it is as bad as the picture looked) that levels things a bit.

I don't find this game too much different than the 2014 qualifier in Antigua where we barely escaped with the 3 points via a 90th minute goal by EJ.

I would love this to be a cake walk but history tells me that we tend to struggle at these type of games with even a significant quality advantage.

A 3-0 halftime lead would be wonderful for once so we don't need to sweat.

 
Conte has said he is pleased with the U.S. international's potential but suggested he could be set to leave the Blues on loan.

"I think in this moment it is good if he plays to improve, to go and get experience to improve," the Italian said. "You can improve only if you play.

"You play every game or a lot of games during the season. But he is a good guy and I am very happy about him.

"Miazga is a young player, he has a good technique and I think that he is working very well under the physical aspect, but the tactical aspect he can improve a lot and I think that he is improving with the work."

 
Quick Spurs update - mixed bag:  Spurs play final friendly against Inter in Oslo tomorrow - CCV is traveling with the team, Yedlin is not traveling.

I have not heard anything else on a loan/sale for Yedlin (or any kind of a knock).

ETA - Yedlin would be unlikely to play, even if he travelled - this is the first/only friendly with the Euro players, so I expect Walker to get most of the minutes at RB, and Rose/Davie have LB covered.  Still, not traveling is probably a sign he will be off somewhere in the next few weeks, unless he picked up a knock in training in the last day or so.

 
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Karl-Hienze Rumminege announced that Bayern is likely done with transfers this summer after the Kingsly Coman deal.

If this is true, it raises an interesting possibility.

Wiki is listing 23 players right now on the top roster for Bayern (which includes Coman) and Green is still one of the 23.

Does anyone know what the roster rules (number of players etc) are for the Bundesliga?

 
From what I can tell, Miazga has not played even a minute for Chelsea this preseason(I might have missed something small).   While I never expected him to be on the first team, I did expect some minutes while they were in America to also help out his loan.

 
Karl-Hienze Rumminege announced that Bayern is likely done with transfers this summer after the Kingsly Coman deal.

If this is true, it raises an interesting possibility.

Wiki is listing 23 players right now on the top roster for Bayern (which includes Coman) and Green is still one of the 23.

Does anyone know what the roster rules (number of players etc) are for the Bundesliga?
It seems pretty clear that he has Gotze's spot now.  Lewa will take most of the striker minutes.  Muller will probably play there at times, but Green appears to be the dedicated "backup striker."  So some cup games, maybe some of the less important CL group matches, and possibly 4 or 5 starts in the BL.  And then some sub appearances.  If there's a big injury to Lewa or Muller, Bayern will move in January. 

 
Charlie finally returned last week from cancer.  The Philly fans are going to love him if they keep their expectations in check.
Union traded their first round picks the next two drafts for Bedoya and Davies.

Earnie appears to be making a big bet on their academy churning out first teamers.  Hopefully that benefits the Nats down the road too

 
Union traded their first round picks the next two drafts for Bedoya and Davies.

Earnie appears to be making a big bet on their academy churning out first teamers.  Hopefully that benefits the Nats down the road too
I wish MLS would release the allocation money amounts that exchange hands.  It is impossible to make any real judgement on these deals with out knowing the cash amounts which directly affect the cap space.

From what I read, Philly flipped their first round for the Revs 3rd round pick.  The draft is becoming less and less important as the years go on so I don't see too much of an issue of Philly shedding those assets.

 
@El FloppoHow did Julian look look last night live?
ok- so the pace of the game was definitely slow, with players from both sides not making the extra run. given that, here's what I saw...

Green was pushed up high on the last defender and seemed to be given the direction to stay there. I didn't see him making big runs diagonally into the corners or even wide... just constantly moving around in the middle of the field- chicharito style- to find that bit of space in and around or behind the two center backs. considering he was matched up against Ramos and I think Varane?... he actually did a decent- not great- job getting the ball in those spaces.

yeah, there were a number of times Ramos read the pass before him, but he didn't look out of place... even if he didn't exactly put much fear into the defense with the ball at his feet. I thought he did better finding the space when the ball was wide on the end-line and pushed in low, had a few opportunities there including one or two times forcing the GK into saves (one time, I thought Green should have done better with his shot).

It did seem like there were too many times Ramos or Varane either anticipated better or just beat him to and off the ball, which seemed to me more like this wasn't Green's optimum. also a lot of minutes passed without his involvement at all... just floating around between the two CBs but not making the run further afield (maybe by instruction?) to free himself up.

he also had a few runs that were lazily off-sides... but I guess that's true of all the guys that play that spot.

all in all, he looked like a guy who belonged at that level- had a couple of opportunities, which had he finished would have put him in clear-cut make the team territory IMO. didn't see him create much on his own (something I've seen him do for the US at times), but found the opportunities. hopefully RHE's assessment is right, and he makes the roster with opportunities for minutes.

 
It seems pretty clear that he has Gotze's spot now.  Lewa will take most of the striker minutes.  Muller will probably play there at times, but Green appears to be the dedicated "backup striker."  So some cup games, maybe some of the less important CL group matches, and possibly 4 or 5 starts in the BL.  And then some sub appearances.  If there's a big injury to Lewa or Muller, Bayern will move in January. 
I am still having a hard time comprehending this, mostly due to my poor perceptions.

I tend to perceive that on giant teams like Bayern, that the back up players on the first team roster are good enough to start on 95% of the teams in the world.  I look at Green as someone who would struggle to find starts in MLS, much less in any top 15 type league.

 
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I am still having a hard time comprehending this, mostly due to my poor perceptions.

I tend to perceive that on giants teams like Bayern, that the back up players on the first team roster are good enough to start on 95% of the teams in the world.  I look at Green as someone who would struggle to find starts in MLS, much less in any top 15 type league.
he didn't strike me as a difference maker last night... something you'd hope for from your lone striker, and as you say expect from anybody on a BM, RM, etc first team (through the top 23). but again, he more than displayed the minimals required to play in a top level, IMO; I think he'd do well in a lesser league- he has a nice nose for space in front of goal, and pretty decent touch/vision.

 
I am still having a hard time comprehending this, mostly due to my poor perceptions.

I tend to perceive that on giants teams like Bayern, that the back up players on the first team roster are good enough to start on 95% of the teams in the world.  I look at Green as someone who would struggle to find starts in MLS, much less in any top 15 type league.
I don't think it's all that unheard of.  He's in essentially the same position as Bertrand Traore or Kelechi Iheanacho.  Or Chupa Akpom, I guess.  Seems like more and more teams are stocking up on chance creators, but not stocking depth in strikers.  I didn't love how Green played last night, but he is infinitely better as a striker than as a wing.  Ancelloti is dead right about that.  For a team like Bayern that wants to create chances, his skill set isn't a bad fit.  He has a knack for a quick run to get frontside of the CB (not surprising that Sergio Ramos wasn't having that last night).

 
I don't think it's all that unheard of.  He's in essentially the same position as Bertrand Traore or Kelechi Iheanacho.  Or Chupa Akpom, I guess.  Seems like more and more teams are stocking up on chance creators, but not stocking depth in strikers.  I didn't love how Green played last night, but he is infinitely better as a striker than as a wing.  Ancelloti is dead right about that.  For a team like Bayern that wants to create chances, his skill set isn't a bad fit.  He has a knack for a quick run to get frontside of the CB (not surprising that Sergio Ramos wasn't having that last night).
interesting take.

I looked at him as a guy better suited for the flank or to play in a bit of space, but you're right in that he does a decent job finding that seam in front of goal to receive the ball from the other more talented players who can get him the ball from different positions. and tangentially... he'll never get around the guys on the books at BM who play out wide, so that position probalby is his best option for BM. 

 
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
It seems pretty clear that he has Gotze's spot now.  Lewa will take most of the striker minutes.  Muller will probably play there at times, but Green appears to be the dedicated "backup striker."  So some cup games, maybe some of the less important CL group matches, and possibly 4 or 5 starts in the BL.  And then some sub appearances.  If there's a big injury to Lewa or Muller, Bayern will move in January. 
If this is right, my surprise is roughly 9.9 / 10.  If he's in the 23 he's probably in line for at least, what, 1000 of Bayern's roughly 5000 minutes this year?

Am I out to lunch?  Is Green still considered a top-end young player?  I can't really get my head around this one.

 
NewlyRetired said:
I am still having a hard time comprehending this, mostly due to my poor perceptions.

I tend to perceive that on giant teams like Bayern, that the back up players on the first team roster are good enough to start on 95% of the teams in the world.  I look at Green as someone who would struggle to find starts in MLS, much less in any top 15 type league.
What he said.  Are we all lagging reality, and too skeptical here?

 
If this is right, my surprise is roughly 9.9 / 10.  If he's in the 23 he's probably in line for at least, what, 1000 of Bayern's roughly 5000 minutes this year?

Am I out to lunch?  Is Green still considered a top-end young player?  I can't really get my head around this one.
Gotze had 1200 total minutes in all comps (and 957 in the BL with 11 starts).  So I think that 1000 for Julian seems high.  I would expect to see more of Muller at ST.  My guess is that this is an analytics driven decision.  They got 6 goals out of Gotze in 1200 minutes.  If they determine that they only need 700 - 800 minutes out of that spot, at a true fraction of the cost, while they keep developing a revolving door of young players to fill that spot until one sticks, they can concentrate their resources elsewhere. 

Nobody is saying that four preseason goals makes Green an elite young prospect.  But he might be a squad player considering there's no value in sending him on loan in the last year of his contract. 

 
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Very difficult for us. Key was making sure that it was something Charlie wanted for him and his family. Would never have done it otherwise

 
The more washed up EPL/LaLiga/Bundes players we get over here the better, especially those in their 30's. My thinking is that they will hopefully start producing babies here on American soil and in 18 years we will have Pirlo jr. lining up with Lampard jr. at midfield :excited:  

 
The more washed up EPL/LaLiga/Bundes players we get over here the better, especially those in their 30's. My thinking is that they will hopefully start producing babies here on American soil and in 18 years we will have Pirlo jr. lining up with Lampard jr. at midfield :excited:  
Timothy Weah is one of the first of this type.

CRo also has an American baby if memory serves.

 

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