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mcnabbmcnow
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For those complaining about the game being canceled....I never have missed a game in 9 years, in rain, in snow, in wind, in cold...but I was not going to this game. There were a number of factors that led to the postponement, but let me just list some of them:
1. Philadelphia isn't New England or Green Bay. The people don't have the vehicles and the road crews are not nearly as prepared. In fact, this is the first snow of the year.
2. This storm was supposed to miss Philly as of Friday, and then suddenly did a drastic shift. As far as road crews and fans, I bet the time many of them first found out about this was Sunday morning due to being away from Christmas. So they didn't adequately have time to plan. It wasn't like we saw this storm coming since Tuesday. When fans were trying to get the game road crews had not been out on the roads.
3. The worst case scenario was if the storm moved ever so slightly to the east, in which case Philly would have got two feet of snow. That didn't happen, but it could of. The blizzard was supposed to be the worst during the game, especially late in the game. I keep hearing "it's only snow", but it wasn't only snow. It was winds of 25-35MPH sustained, with gusts over 50 MPH. Public buses were possibly shut down, which leaves fans no way home. Most fans come from 1/2 hour to an hour away.
4. The game was at night, which complicates things with transportation getting home. Visibility was very poor due to the high winds, snow drifts, and even possible power outages. There was lightning in some parts of Jersey. One thing to remember is that many fans come from New Jersey, which got hit with 20 inches to two feet in some places. The NFL originally had this game at 1PM and moved it to 8:20PM. If it was at 1PM, it would have gotten played. The bottom line is, the players could have played, but the fans could not make it to the game - and I was one of them.
1. Philadelphia isn't New England or Green Bay. The people don't have the vehicles and the road crews are not nearly as prepared. In fact, this is the first snow of the year.
2. This storm was supposed to miss Philly as of Friday, and then suddenly did a drastic shift. As far as road crews and fans, I bet the time many of them first found out about this was Sunday morning due to being away from Christmas. So they didn't adequately have time to plan. It wasn't like we saw this storm coming since Tuesday. When fans were trying to get the game road crews had not been out on the roads.
3. The worst case scenario was if the storm moved ever so slightly to the east, in which case Philly would have got two feet of snow. That didn't happen, but it could of. The blizzard was supposed to be the worst during the game, especially late in the game. I keep hearing "it's only snow", but it wasn't only snow. It was winds of 25-35MPH sustained, with gusts over 50 MPH. Public buses were possibly shut down, which leaves fans no way home. Most fans come from 1/2 hour to an hour away.
4. The game was at night, which complicates things with transportation getting home. Visibility was very poor due to the high winds, snow drifts, and even possible power outages. There was lightning in some parts of Jersey. One thing to remember is that many fans come from New Jersey, which got hit with 20 inches to two feet in some places. The NFL originally had this game at 1PM and moved it to 8:20PM. If it was at 1PM, it would have gotten played. The bottom line is, the players could have played, but the fans could not make it to the game - and I was one of them.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
I got 2 feet here in Jersey and there are places that got 2 1/2 feet. Accuweather said we were getting 11 inches. Storms like this are very tough to predict and a small change of course would've buried that game.-QGTommyGilmore
Footballguy
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Exactly. And the Eagles/Vikings & Saints/Falcons are both nationally televised games. Which is why they couldn't move the game to tonight.
Phurfur
Footballguy
I will repeat, I worked in Wisconsin for 30 years and my places of employment NEVER closed and we had storms worse than what Philly had.Well, honestly, if it's not an emergency you're a fool for driving in those conditions, and expecting 60k people to drive in it as well for a football game. Companies close offices when the weather is deemed too dangerous, to expect anything different for a game, is silly.Parrothead said:huh?? ah, yes I HAVE driven the WW bridge in high winds and snow.. there are plenty of bridges in NFL cities.. should we cancel games when the winds are high too???
delusional
Footballguy
NBC nationally.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
Good for you, repeat it again if you like, it won't matter. You're still comparing Wisconsin to Philadelphia.I will repeat, I worked in Wisconsin for 30 years and my places of employment NEVER closed and we had storms worse than what Philly had.Well, honestly, if it's not an emergency you're a fool for driving in those conditions, and expecting 60k people to drive in it as well for a football game. Companies close offices when the weather is deemed too dangerous, to expect anything different for a game, is silly.Parrothead said:huh?? ah, yes I HAVE driven the WW bridge in high winds and snow.. there are plenty of bridges in NFL cities.. should we cancel games when the winds are high too???
Our average snowfall FOR THE ENTIRE WINTER is 19 INCHES. You probably have that on your lawn from november to March. Why can't you grasp that?
When the entire expected snowfall amount for the year falls in about 8 hours, well we're not as properly prepared to handle it like Wisconsin might be.
Yeah, apples to oranges. Us folks in the Midwest just think it's funny to hear people talk about "snomageddon" when they get several inches of snow and a little wind.By comparison, our town held an outdoor event on its football stadium about a month ago. Started at 7:00pm...and was probably in the low 30s and 10-15 MPH winds. Shortly after the event started, the winds dropped, and were followed by about a 25-30 minute downpour of frozen rain. Big raindrops (like Summer), only instantly freezing to just about any surface on contact.Good for you, repeat it again if you like, it won't matter. You're still comparing Wisconsin to Philadelphia.
Our average snowfall FOR THE ENTIRE WINTER is 19 INCHES. You probably have that on your lawn from november to March. Why can't you grasp that?
When the entire expected snowfall amount for the year falls in about 8 hours, well we're not as properly prepared to handle it like Wisconsin might be.
The crowd's response? After the performance ended at around 7:45pm (never missed a beat, and only 5-10 people out of 300-400 left early), we had to work a little harder to break our pants/coats/gloves free from the ice to stand up, then walked back to our cars to drive home on what ended up being about 1/2" of glare ice...covering everything. We then got about 16 inches of snow on top of that ice which was followed by a 20+ degree drop in temperature and 20-35+ MPH winds (sustained, excluding 40-50+ MPH gusts). And within a week, had another 14-15 inches of snow on top of that. Snow banks along our sidewalks are over four feet high in most places, and 90% of sidewalks in town are an ice skating rink. With freezing rain and several inches of snow on the way for New Year's Eve.
So is our region of the country basically looking like a reenactment of Donner's Pass? Nope. I think we started school two hours late on two days, and I didn't see one business that was closed for anything other than Christmas Day. As I told one of my friends in South Carolina, us Minnesotans just stop shoveling for a few minutes, shake our fists at the sky and yell "Is THAT ALL YOU GOT?!?!" this time of year.
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Billy Bats
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That's awesome stuff, at least somebody gets it. Another thing to add perspective... Your event had 3-400 poeple probably travelling a few main roads. Our event was going to have 60.000 traveling hundreds of miles of many main highways in and out of the city that had to be cleared.Yeah, apples to oranges. Us folks in the Midwest just think it's funny to hear people talk about "snomageddon" when they get several inches of snow and a little wind.By comparison, our town held an outdoor event on its football stadium about a month ago. Started at 7:00pm...and was probably in the low 30s and 10-15 MPH winds. Shortly after the event started, the winds dropped, and were followed by about a 25-30 minute downpour of frozen rain. Big raindrops (like Summer), only instantly freezing to just about any surface on contact.Good for you, repeat it again if you like, it won't matter. You're still comparing Wisconsin to Philadelphia.
Our average snowfall FOR THE ENTIRE WINTER is 19 INCHES. You probably have that on your lawn from november to March. Why can't you grasp that?
When the entire expected snowfall amount for the year falls in about 8 hours, well we're not as properly prepared to handle it like Wisconsin might be.
The crowd's response? After the performance ended at around 7:45pm (never missed a beat, and only 5-10 people out of 300-400 left early), we had to work a little harder to break our pants/coats/gloves free from the ice to stand up, then walked back to our cars to drive home on what ended up being about 1/2" of glare ice...covering everything. We then got about 16 inches of snow on top of that ice which was followed by a 20+ degree drop in temperature and 20-35+ MPH winds (sustained, excluding 40-50+ MPH gusts). And within a week, had another 14-15 inches of snow on top of that. Snow banks along our sidewalks are over four feet high in most places, and 90% of sidewalks in town are an ice skating rink. With freezing rain and several inches of snow on the way for New Year's Eve.
So is our region of the country basically looking like a reenactment of Donner's Pass? Nope. I think we started school two hours late on two days, and I didn't see one business that was closed for anything other than Christmas Day. As I told one of my friends in South Carolina, us Minnesotans just stop shoveling for a few minutes, shake our fists at the sky and yell "Is THAT ALL YOU GOT?!?!" this time of year.
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Kenny Powers
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any updates on Favre's status?
Main...roads?! Oh...you mean the ox/horse tracks and the two little few-inch-wide tracks that the wagons make along the prairie grasses on the way to our earthen mounds cut into the hill sides?!
Yep. Best not to travel in those conditions...whether you're used to it or not. I'm just wondering what the four horsemen of the apocalypse have in store for Week 17 in Detroit. Maybe Yellowstone will erupt? Stadium-sized asteroid crashing into Windsor and vaporizing everything within about 25-30 miles? Visante Shiancoe having a "wardrobe malfunction" and unfurling his "member" in front of millions of viewers?
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Billy Bats
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Really? If you're not exaggerating that's pretty cool.Main...roads?! Oh...you mean the ox/horse tracks and the two little few-inch-wide tracks that the wagons make along the prairie grasses on the way to our earthen mounds cut into the hill sides?!
Too many possiblities. Here's what a small piece of Philly looks like after 23" of snow last February..And I'm about a 3/4 mile from the stadium.
1. That's what I love about our "Nor-Easter" brethren. If they find out I live West of about I-95 and I don't live in CHI/LA/SF/SD/SEA, I can tell them that Unk from the next cave over just made fire and "me happy....me want to learn make fire too" and they'll wonder if I'm joking or serious.Really? If you're not exaggerating that's pretty cool.
Too many possiblities.
Here's what a small piece of Philly looks like after 23" of snow last February..
And I'm about a 3/4 mile from the stadium.
Although one of the tourist attractions in this area is a sod house (19th century settlers) and Plum Creek from the Little House on the Prairie series...so I'll cut you a lot of slack.2. Yep, that photo is of a snowstorm! Nice pic. That's one thing I don't miss about living in the city...the fact that there is nowhere to put all that snow! It's bad enough to try and find room for all the snow here in our small town, but we've got ten times the room to put it that they do in MSP or PHI.So...the Eagles gonna win by 20, 30 or 40 tomorrow night?! Vikes were probably gonna lose anyway, but living in a hotel for a couple extra days in the middle of the holidays probably has them just wanting to get on that plane, regardless of the final score. Might as well just fly out to Detroit from Philadelphia too...given the weather reports for 12/31-1/1 here in MSP.
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Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Any local forecasts for tonight's game?
Sabertooth
Footballguy
My forecast is the Eagles win this game by a minimum of 20 points, maybe closer to 30.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Looks like around 28 degrees, clear with winds 10 to 15 MPH. All things considering I think that's the best you could have hoped for. Big big difference from Sunday night. Should be bombs away for Vick.
mcnabbmcnow
Footballguy
Cold and clear, highs in the mid-20's, wind should not be a factor. I'm going tonight.
Shtaym Syek
Footballguy
Vick and the rest of the starters are on the bench by Half-Time IMHO
I hope so
Mr. Nasty
Footballguy
I don't see it. When Vick and the Eagles were burying the Redskins, the starters were in the entire game. That game was out of hand in the second half and Reid left everyone in. With NFC playoff seeding still up in the air (for the most part), don't the starters remain in the game?
QuizGuy66
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Why They Shouldn't Have Played the Game Sunday
The above story was with maybe 3000 hardy people who made it out to the Devils game in the snow. Yes we got more here, but again when the decision was made to postpone the Eagles game they didn't have the luxury of knowing exactly what the snow total would be.
Multiply that crowd by 20 and you can see how ridiculous a decision this really would've been.
-QG
The above story was with maybe 3000 hardy people who made it out to the Devils game in the snow. Yes we got more here, but again when the decision was made to postpone the Eagles game they didn't have the luxury of knowing exactly what the snow total would be.
Multiply that crowd by 20 and you can see how ridiculous a decision this really would've been.
-QG
Qtip Callahan
Footballguy
Any chance Harvin resumes returning kicks tonight?
ScoobyDoo
Footballguy
If it means less offensive touches I'm all for it.
EFD
Footballguy
Yes, but they didn't have a game 4 days later then as they do now.
TommyGilmore
Footballguy
Qtip Callahan
Footballguy
Looks like it's Booker again.
vasco75
Footballguy
Gotta figure that Vick wants the MVP. Last 2 games are perfect for stat padding...No rest for Vick...
Vick owner needing 49 points in a point per completion league...There's still PLAYOFF SEEDING at stake here.When the game gets out of hand by Half-Time IF Reid is smart he plays the second/third stringers as they have a game with Dallas SUNDAY.Gotta figure that Vick wants the MVP. Last 2 games are perfect for stat padding...No rest for Vick...
duaneok66
Footballguy
so much for this theory . . .There's still PLAYOFF SEEDING at stake here.When the game gets out of hand by Half-Time IF Reid is smart he plays the second/third stringers as they have a game with Dallas SUNDAY.Gotta figure that Vick wants the MVP. Last 2 games are perfect for stat padding...No rest for Vick...
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
Update?
