Willie started being able to be himself with Shotgun Willie. He wouldn't get complete creative control until joining Columbia and doing Red Headed Stranger, but Outlaw Willie had arrived. He also formed the Family as his backing band starting with this album.Shotgun Willie (1973)
I wanted an album of known quality after the last couple of records, so I loaded up Shotgun Willie in the chamber. Nelson's three album run of this, Phases and Stages and Red Headed Stranger was a high point in his career. Shotgun Willie was the first album he recorded after the end of his RCA contract and his move from Nashville to Austin. Listening to a few of his RCA records earlier in this thread gives me greater appreciation of the changes in Willie's music. Because it I listened to Shotgun Willie outside of this context, it's a rather conventional sounding Country album. It's a major label (Atlantic) record produced by a big-name industry vet in Arif Mardin. There are still strings, horns, lots of background vocals and even some electric piano to sweeten the sound. But the big difference is that Willie sounds like he's singing directly to the listener instead of being trapped in a huge reverberating sound chamber. His voice and guitar are given a more organic sound that is a better match for Willie's gifts than the big Nashville sound.
Yep. Gram Parsons & Big John Cash had laid the groundwork, but this was Outlaw's launching pad.Willie started being able to be himself with Shotgun Willie. He wouldn't get complete creative control until joining Columbia and doing Red Headed Stranger, but Outlaw Willie had arrived. He also formed the Family as his backing band starting with this album.
it almost looks like his ears have been Brylcreemed back to be more mom-readyThey dressed Louis in cat clothes at the party last night. He was pretty good natured about it but you can tell by the angle of his ears that he wasn't really digging being the center of attention.
That looks suspiciously like my my first grade pictureThey dressed Louis in cat clothes at the party last night. He was pretty good natured about it but you can tell by the angle of his ears that he wasn't really digging being the center of attention.
Back in 2018, I saw Kris Kristofferson at the Merlefest, and he had The Strangers and Ben Haggard (Merle's son) play as his backing band. They did a couple Merle numbers, and I was so excited that one of those songs was "Sing Me Back Home."The Promiseland (1986)
Allmusic only gives The Promiseland two stars which makes it eligible to be called an underrated gem. It was one of two albums Willie released in 1986. He was supported this time out by The Strangers who were better known as the backing band for Merle Haggard. The Strangers are a tight outfit who sound great playing with Willie.
Once your down in Texas Bob Wills is still the king.Texas In My Soul (1968)
the best songs are the ones influenced by Western Swing music of Ernest Tubb and Bob Wills.
As my grandmother used to say "and how".This song sucks
I knew he wasn't a kid, but I didn't quite think he was pushing 90 either.
I knew he wasn't a kid, but I didn't quite think he was pushing 90 either.
I was going to ask how apt the title was in comparison to the cover, but you might have planted that sort of seed in my head. I'm beginning to think that Willie's career would have been tragic but for his publishing royalties from his songwriting, really, unless the Austin years leave us nuggets of gold in them there plains.Eephus said:And speaking of not fitting the picture, let's talk about the album cover.
I was going to ask how apt the title was in comparison to the cover, but you might have planted that sort of seed in my head. I'm beginning to think that Willie's career would have been tragic but for his publishing royalties from his songwriting, really, unless the Austin years leave us nuggets of gold in them there plains.
lol. It's his secret to bear, I guess.We don't know how old Lou is; I always tell people he's 6 but the women give him the benefit of the doubt and say he's 5. Lou's not telling anybody anything anyway.
lol. It's his secret to bear, I guess.
I can imagine Willie singing that song too.Eephus said:Charley Pride - Sings Heart Songs (1972)
One of the things most interesting to me about Willie is his move away from the Nashville establishment and the start of Outlaw Country. I don't know much about Charley Pride so I had no idea how how big of a Country superstar he was in the early 70s. As mentioned in the previous post, Pride dominated the charts around the time Willie made his move. Pride was contracted to RCA but he was African American which is rare in Country music even today. He was also a contemporary of Willie's born one year later (Pride died of COVID in December 2020). So I hope nobody minds a quick detour to listen to Pride's biggest album.
I chose "No One Could Ever Take Me From You" for the playlist because it's a song I could imagine Willie singing.
I decided to give "Coal Miner's Daughter" and "The Pill" a listen. What I noticed was that I think I dislike the backing bands in Nashville circa 1972 and earlier. "Coal Miner's Daughter," for all its soul, almost tries to swing a little bit while the piano trinkles off in the distance.
So I decided to listen to Lynn with Jack White and checked out Van Lear Rose. White does a better job as a backing band's frontman than Nashville did in '72, and the songs are compelling ones. "Van Lear Rose" and "Portland, Oregon" are fine songs, and I'm enjoying the album.
Songwriter (1984)
Since I've gone down the rabbit hole of Willie's outlaw move to Austin, it seemed like a good time to catch up on the heavily mythologized version from Willie's 1984 feature film Songwriter. He plays Doc Jenkins, a successful songwriter and unsuccessful businessman and husband who's been cheated out of his publishing rights. His implausible plan for revenge involves moving his operations to Austin along with a crew of colorful characters. Kris Kristofferson plays Doc's sidekick Blackie Buck who doesn't figure much in the plot but gets to sings a little and grin a lot. Lesley Ann Warren plays a young singer named Gilda (that's it just Gilda) who is Willie's ticket back to the big time. The great Rip Torn steals every scene he's in. Willie's music friends get some screentime too with Mickey Raphael in a speaking role as Gilda's boyfriend/harmonica player.
As an actor Willie is no Olivier but since he's basically playing himself that's not a problem. He speaks his lines with the same sincerity that makes his singing special. He's not a big man but there's an intensity in his gaze that gives his character strength. Willie has good chemistry in the scenes with his ex-wife Melinda Dillon who made a career out of playing similarly long suffering women in A Christmas Story and Close Encounters. Of course Willie sings a few songs too including a lovely acoustic version of "Who'll Buy My Memories".
The film was directed by Alan Rudolph who was a protege of Robert Altman. The script comes from one of Willie's golfing buddies Bud Shrake who later co-wrote Willie's first autobiography. I was pleasantly surprised by Songwriter--the movie has a loose improvisational feel and an undeniable shaggy dog charm. Pauline Kael and Roger Ebert both liked it too. Lou Bob says check it out.
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I guess you kind of have to do Barbarosa now - the Willie + Gary Busey Western. I bet they had a good time making that one.
I chose either Van Lear Rose (the album) or "Portland, Oregon" (as a song) in a recent draft, can't recall which. I may have recounted this story then, but here it is again (I'm paraphrasing the quotes from memory, but think I have the feeling down):So I decided to listen to Lynn with Jack White and checked out Van Lear Rose. White does a better job as a backing band's frontman than Nashville did in '72, and the songs are compelling ones. "Van Lear Rose" and "Portland, Oregon" are fine songs, and I'm enjoying the album.
Women also had/have a tougher time in the Country genre. Loretta does have a couple gold proper albums from around the late 60s, although one didn't turn gold until later. She was the first female Country artist to sell over 500,000 copies, and have a certified gold proper album for her '67 album Don't Come Home A' Drinkin' (With Lovin' on Your Mind). She co-wrote the title track with her sister, Peggy Sue. It reached gold status in 1970. Her Coal Miner's Daughter proper album from '71 also went gold, although it didn't reach gold until 1983. She wrote that title track too. She didn't have another gold album in the 70s, although she was named and awarded by the Academy of Country Music "Artist of the Decade" (for the 70s). She has tons of accolades, and was/is a huge deal, and broke down a lot of doors in the Country music genre for women.Loretta Lynn - One's On the Way (1972)
One's On the Way was the first of the five and the highest charting reaching #3 on the Country albums chart. None of her albums this year have ever reached RIAA gold record status which makes me think Country remained a predominantly singles oriented market even after the Rock albums explosion of the late 60s.
shoulda named him Kazak thenEephus changed the title to Walkin' with Willie Nelson - Man and dog get trapped in a 1972 Nashville time warp
I think Kris is a great songwriter, and one of my favorites in any genre. I agree he isn't a great singer, but his writing makes up for it. His voice does fit his songs that are more folk country sounding, versus some of his hits that sound better by someone with a good voice. He always sounds sincere, as you mentioned, no matter what.Kris Kristofferson - Border Lord (1972)
Border Lord sounds more like what I consider Outlaw Country than Willie's albums of the period. There's more crossover with Rock 'n Roll than every Willie album I've listened to save the Ryan Adams project. The drums are pushed forward in the mix while the backing vocals are earthbound compared to the heavenly angels from the Nashville Sound. Kristofferson isn't the greatest singer of all time but like Willie the actor his sincerity overcomes his limitations. He almost sounds like Leonard Cohen at times when he drops into his lower register. The songs seemed to be mostly about women and the road. He's a fine songwriter, perhaps a little more emotionally distanced than Nelson but I'd need to listen to more of both. The song du jour is the closing track "Kiss the World Goodbye" which sounds like an old cowboy's farewell. I checked to see if Willie ever covered it because it would be perfect for him.
Lou acts so undogly at times it was nice and sort of primal to see him happily chomping on a bone.
You forgot his greatest accomplishment, simey. He married Rita CoolidgeI think Kris is a great songwriter, and one of my favorites in any genre. I agree he isn't a great singer, but his writing makes up for it. His voice does fit his songs that are more folk country sounding, versus some of his hits that sound better by someone with a good voice. He always sounds sincere, as you mentioned, no matter what.
He is an interesting guy. A Rhodes Scholar who studied at Oxford, and then became a captain and helicopter pilot in the Army. He was offered a teaching position at West Point, but turned it down to go to Nashville and try to make it as a musician. He came from a military family, and his parents disowned him when he left the military to make music. His mother wrote him a letter telling him what a disappointment and embarrassment he was to the family. They never patched things up. He got a job as a janitor at Columbia Records, and he would slip demo tapes of his music to June Carter asking her give them to Johnny. Kris also got a gig flying helicopters for someone or another, and he eventually would fly one of the helicopters on to Johnny Cash's lawn to get his attention. It got his attention, and Johnny recorded Kris's song "Sunday Morning Coming Down," which won Kris the Songwriter of the Year award at the CMAs, and put Kris on the map. The rest is history.
I have a lot of favorite songs by him, and the one I've played the most recently is a song he wrote for Johnny Cash in 1974, and Johnny even titled his album after it. Kris recorded it later in 2001, and it is called The Junkie and the Juicehead Minus Me. Some of his play on words reminds me of Leonard Cohen. Eephus, you said he almost sounds like Leonard (I assume a young Leonard) at times when he lowers his register. Kris has said that when he dies he wants the first three lines from Cohen's "Bird on the Wire" written on his tombstone.
Like a bird on the wire
Like a drunk in a midnight choir
I have tried in my way to be free
Whenever she is mentioned, I think of her being on the cover of his Jesus Was A Capricorn album with the cowboy hat on. My mom went through a spell where she played that album constantly.You forgot his greatest accomplishment, simey. He married Rita Coolidge
:swoon:Whenever she is mentioned, I think of her being on the cover of his Jesus Was A Capricorn album with the cowboy hat on. My mom went through a spell where she played that album constantly.
met Kris, Rita & Claudie Lennear (Brown Sugar) backstage at a Leon Russell show @ Foxboro's ol' Schaefer Stadium (single-floor outhouse) in the 70s. my eyes havent properly re-focused sinceYou forgot his greatest accomplishment, simey. He married Rita Coolidge
met Kris, Rita & Claudie Lennear (Brown Sugar) backstage at a Leon Russell show @ Foxboro's ol' Schaefer Stadium (single-floor outhouse) in the 70s. my eyes havent properly re-focused since
There are other Nelson albums I listen to for enjoyment more often, but I think this one is his best.
It is, but it still cuts closer to the bone than I sometimes want when listening music.Phases and Stages is surprisingly upbeat considering its subject matter. The recurring Phases and Stages theme brings the mood down a little each time it's repeated but there's a resilient spirit in even the most down tempo songs.
It is, but it still cuts closer to the bone than I sometimes want when listening music.Phases and Stages is surprisingly upbeat considering its subject matter. The recurring Phases and Stages theme brings the mood down a little each time it's repeated but there's a resilient spirit in even the most down tempo songs.
This album was made the same year Willie starred in the pilot of Austin City Limits.Phases and Stages is surprisingly upbeat considering its subject matter. The recurring Phases and Stages theme brings the mood down a little each time it's repeated but there's a resilient spirit in even the most down tempo songs.
I like reading about the different ways that Lou is blossoming.Lou is sitting beside me enjoying the sun. Have I mentioned he never used to wag his tail? It took almost a year for him to start doing it. He's not a tail wagging fool now but when he does, he wags with sincerity and not just to scam us out of some treats.
You talkin about the jeans fitting a little bit tighter than they did before? That's harsh man.