Week 1 No-Name TE's (1 Viewer)

[wino1618]

Which of the TE's from week 1 are most likely to be solid performers the rest of the way?

Randy McMichael - I watched some of this game, and StL seemed to look to him a lot. There was talk of featuring the TE more in the preseason, and at least in this game it appeared so.

Robert Royal - To me, he's been a fringe guy, bye-week fill-in, sleeper, whatever. Can he become a bigger part of things?

Fasano/Martin - I lumped both Dolphins together, because it's doubtful that they both have good fantasy seasons. Fasano had the better game, and I do recall watching him look good for Dallas the last 2 preseasons (making him a "Parcells guy"). Could he be a good play, given the combination Miami's unimpressive WR corps and Pennington's weak arm?

Bo Scaife - He had 5 rec, 51 with Young in the game and 1 rec for 44 yds from Collins. Was the long one from Collins a great play, or just a fluke kind of thing? Wycheck had 2 very good seasons in Heimerdingers system (00-01) before he aged and they went to TE committee. Will the TE be more or less involved with Collins as QB?

LJ Smith - product of the Rams being horrible, injuries to Brown/Cirtus, or back to being McNabb's red-zone guy?

Rosario - not buying it...too many other choices when Steve Smith returns, and the TD was a fluky semi-hail-mary kind of play.

What do the sharks say? Anyone watch any of the games and have more insight?

Finally, which week 1 TE busts are we worried about? Heap, Clark, Cooley, or none of the above?

 

[shims3]

I am interested to see what people think about Fasano. I am not sold on Royal or Scaife at all.

Worried about Heap.

 

[zadok]

McMichael and LJ Smith are no-names? i would think any casual fantasy player knows them.

 

[wino1618]

McMichael and LJ Smith are no-names? i would think any casual fantasy player knows them.

Should have clarified...they are probalby on waivers in most 10-12 team leagues that only start 1 TE. Also, I tend to think of them as guys who used to be starters, but most people see them as past their primes. I don't know of many preseason lists that had either of them Top 12.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

It's not Dustin Keller, he was a no-stat TE.

Fasano has talent and might be Miami's go-to guy based on yesterday's game.

 

[ShadowMaster]

Fasano

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

LJ Smith had 10 targets yesterday. More than any TE in the league this weekend. I know the Rams appear to be terrible, but the Eagles offense looks like its going to put up some numbers this year. Smith (with health for once) could be a key player.

 

[Utter Chaos]

LJ Smith had 10 targets yesterday. More than any TE in the league this weekend. I know the Rams appear to be terrible, but the Eagles offense looks like its going to put up some numbers this year. Smith (with health for once) could be a key player.

I'm considering cutting John Carlson (the rookie from Seattle who also could be mention here - 4 recep 52 yards) and picking up Fasano to backup Winslow.

 

[Tom in Albany]

I don't think No-Name means what you think it means

 

[Romofan]

I have VDavis and ODaniels and am considering dropping ODaniels for LJSmith....Philly is just a better offense than Hou and MCNABB over Schaub....plus I'm thinking Daniels might have been better with AJ out..........Somebody talk me off the ledge?

Rosario looked great but I don't know if he'll get consistent targets in the future with SSMith/Hackett/Muhammed etc....

 

[wino1618]

I don't think No-Name means what you think it means

Tried to keep it short and sweet in the post title. To me, LJ and McMichael were "names" 3-5 years ago. I guess I could have said "tight ends who were ranked low in the preseason (and thus are on waivers in most leagues) who had good games in week 1"...but I thought I might lose my audience.

 

[BassNBrew]

McMichael and LJ Smith are no-names? i would think any casual fantasy player knows them.

Should have clarified...they are probalby on waivers in most 10-12 team leagues that only start 1 TE. Also, I tend to think of them as guys who used to be starters, but most people see them as past their primes. I don't know of many preseason lists that had either of them Top 12.

As I recall, Smith was a prennial top 10 TE prior to last year. He would have been gone by TE12 in any league that I was playing in.

 

[OU#1]

I have VDavis and ODaniels and am considering dropping ODaniels for LJSmith....Philly is just a better offense than Hou and MCNABB over Schaub....plus I'm thinking Daniels might have been better with AJ out..........Somebody talk me off the ledge?

Philly played St. Louis...Houston played Pitt...I think you should wait a couple more weeks before you drop Daniels.

 

[Jason Wood]

McMichael and LJ Smith are no-names? i would think any casual fantasy player knows them.

Should have clarified...they are probalby on waivers in most 10-12 team leagues that only start 1 TE. Also, I tend to think of them as guys who used to be starters, but most people see them as past their primes. I don't know of many preseason lists that had either of them Top 12.

As I recall, Smith was a prennial top 10 TE prior to last year. He would have been gone by TE12 in any league that I was playing in.

I was singing to the rafters that Smith was undervalued, I wish more folks had listened to me.

Jason Wood - I've never been the biggest L.J. Smith fan but he's now come full circle and is finally undervalued. He's 100% recovered from the sports hernia that limited him in 2007, and the Eagles have few proven red zone options outside of Smith and Brian Westbrook. Given his size and familiarity with the offense, he's a mortal lock to finish higher than his current ADP if healthy. Let's not forget that Smith finished as the 9th best fantasy TE in 2005 AND 2006; yet he's being drafted outside the top 150; that's laughable.

 

[BassNBrew]

McMichael and LJ Smith are no-names? i would think any casual fantasy player knows them.

Should have clarified...they are probalby on waivers in most 10-12 team leagues that only start 1 TE. Also, I tend to think of them as guys who used to be starters, but most people see them as past their primes. I don't know of many preseason lists that had either of them Top 12.

As I recall, Smith was a prennial top 10 TE prior to last year. He would have been gone by TE12 in any league that I was playing in.

I was singing to the rafters that Smith was undervalued, I wish more folks had listened to me.

Jason Wood - I've never been the biggest L.J. Smith fan but he's now come full circle and is finally undervalued. He's 100% recovered from the sports hernia that limited him in 2007, and the Eagles have few proven red zone options outside of Smith and Brian Westbrook. Given his size and familiarity with the offense, he's a mortal lock to finish higher than his current ADP if healthy. Let's not forget that Smith finished as the 9th best fantasy TE in 2005 AND 2006; yet he's being drafted outside the top 150; that's laughable.

I'm glad they weren't listening. Also glad they were paying attention to McNabb. I wonder if Brady will slide to QB9-12 next year???

 

[wino1618]

McMichael and LJ Smith are no-names? i would think any casual fantasy player knows them.

Should have clarified...they are probalby on waivers in most 10-12 team leagues that only start 1 TE. Also, I tend to think of them as guys who used to be starters, but most people see them as past their primes. I don't know of many preseason lists that had either of them Top 12.

As I recall, Smith was a prennial top 10 TE prior to last year. He would have been gone by TE12 in any league that I was playing in.

I was singing to the rafters that Smith was undervalued, I wish more folks had listened to me.

Jason Wood - I've never been the biggest L.J. Smith fan but he's now come full circle and is finally undervalued. He's 100% recovered from the sports hernia that limited him in 2007, and the Eagles have few proven red zone options outside of Smith and Brian Westbrook. Given his size and familiarity with the offense, he's a mortal lock to finish higher than his current ADP if healthy. Let's not forget that Smith finished as the 9th best fantasy TE in 2005 AND 2006; yet he's being drafted outside the top 150; that's laughable.

I'm glad they weren't listening. Also glad they were paying attention to McNabb. I wonder if Brady will slide to QB9-12 next year???

Sarcasm, I know, but there is a big difference between a TE9 coming of a down season and the NFL MVP. TE9 means you're in the bottom quarter (or worse) of a 10-12 team league if he's your every-week TE. Sure you can get draft value from him, but TE was very deep this year.

 

[yinzer]

McMichael and LJ Smith are no-names? i would think any casual fantasy player knows them.

Should have clarified...they are probalby on waivers in most 10-12 team leagues that only start 1 TE. Also, I tend to think of them as guys who used to be starters, but most people see them as past their primes. I don't know of many preseason lists that had either of them Top 12.

As I recall, Smith was a prennial top 10 TE prior to last year. He would have been gone by TE12 in any league that I was playing in.

I was singing to the rafters that Smith was undervalued, I wish more folks had listened to me.

Jason Wood - I've never been the biggest L.J. Smith fan but he's now come full circle and is finally undervalued. He's 100% recovered from the sports hernia that limited him in 2007, and the Eagles have few proven red zone options outside of Smith and Brian Westbrook. Given his size and familiarity with the offense, he's a mortal lock to finish higher than his current ADP if healthy. Let's not forget that Smith finished as the 9th best fantasy TE in 2005 AND 2006; yet he's being drafted outside the top 150; that's laughable.

I'm glad they weren't listening. Also glad they were paying attention to McNabb. I wonder if Brady will slide to QB9-12 next year???

Sarcasm, I know, but there is a big difference between a TE9 coming of a down season and the NFL MVP. TE9 means you're in the bottom quarter (or worse) of a 10-12 team league if he's your every-week TE. Sure you can get draft value from him, but TE was very deep this year.

I think hes referring to McNabb being discounted due to injury concerns, even though he had his 2nd best season of his career last and best since 2001 and missed 2 gamesI think LJ Smith is the clear choice here. I have Zach Miller, so Im waiting to see how he looks tonight, but Smith has a proven track record and like someone just mentioned, was considered a low-end TE1 before last year

I think Rosario or Fasano are the next best choices. Yeah, Rosario's TD was partial luck, but it looks like Delhomme is primed for a big year and Im not all that sold on Hackett or Muhammad putting up what some think. And as mentioned, Fasano has Martin to deal with.

Id probably rather have Rosario bc he's got more potential IMO than Fasano

 

[Bears_Man2]

I credit the NYJ DB's for the effort on the Miami WR's. Fasano looked solid and looks like a capable TE2 this year. I think David Martin takes a little shine he has. And I imagine Pennington will throw to the WR's more.

i like John Carlson of Seattle myself for the next few games.

 

[BassNBrew]

FYI....rosario looked good the entire game. He actually hurdled a defender on one play and show good hands all day. I suspect he'll get more looks and with smith back soon, he should have plenty of room to operate. Also worth mentioning is the Carolina o-line was opening huge holes for the RBs.

 

[Diamond One]

SEA TE Carlson might be worth a hard look / taking a flyer on...

 

[the spanker]

Bump,

After this week, does anyone have a clue as to where to rank Fasano, McMichael, Rosario?

 

[switz]

Fasano and Rosario are for real. Both fit into their teams game plans and needs perfectly.

 

[the spanker]

Fasano and Rosario are for real. Both fit into their teams game plans and needs perfectly.

Any idea who you think will be the more consistent option? Also with Bennett out for the Rams shouldn't McMichael be featured even more in the passing attack?

 

[tombonneau]

Fasano and Rosario are for real. Both fit into their teams game plans and needs perfectly.

This is my feeling as well. I didn't watch much of the Miami game -- and Martin kind of spooks me -- but I always liked Fasano and the fact one of the first moves BP made was to swing a trade to get his boy says a lot. Plus, the last Eye-talian TE Parcells worked with turned out pretty well. As far as Rosario, I had heard some sleeper buzz and was watching the Panthers-Chargers game quite closely, ahem, recreational purposes.I thought he looked great all game. I'm actually a bit bummed he scored the high profile gamer-winner, as I'm not sure he'll slide to my WW spot now.The other guy I like but won't put in a claim for is Carlson. Everything I read is that the Walrus has a HUGE mancrush on the guy and that he'll do big things in this offense.Scaife & Royal I'm a bit dubious of simply as they kind of have been in this place before and not made the leap, but maybe this is the year?

 

[Kleck]

Agree with Bass and Woodrow on Smith. I also think Fasano is the real deal and is capable of cracking the 12 this year. Both of these guys found their way on a few of my teams, some with both.

 

[-jb-]

For current and prospective Fasano owners, via CBS Sportsline:

The Dolphins released starting FB Boomer Grigsby on Monday after telling him they were going to use their tight ends more. That could be great news for TE Anthony Fasano, who could now see the field on practically every down.(Updated 09/09/2008).

 

[the spanker]

For current and prospective Fasano owners, via CBS Sportsline:

The Dolphins released starting FB Boomer Grigsby on Monday after telling him they were going to use their tight ends more. That could be great news for TE Anthony Fasano, who could now see the field on practically every down.(Updated 09/09/2008).

Can anyone tell me how Martin fits into this as far as taking targets away from Fasano? Or does it even make a difference taking into account Pennington's arm?

 

[dapunisher]

Anybody buying into the Al Saunders effect for McMichael?

 

[tombonneau]

For current and prospective Fasano owners, via CBS Sportsline:

The Dolphins released starting FB Boomer Grigsby on Monday after telling him they were going to use their tight ends more. That could be great news for TE Anthony Fasano, who could now see the field on practically every down.(Updated 09/09/2008).

Great update. Thanks for posting. Sounds like great news for Ant'any.

 

[-jb-]

For current and prospective Fasano owners, via CBS Sportsline:

The Dolphins released starting FB Boomer Grigsby on Monday after telling him they were going to use their tight ends more. That could be great news for TE Anthony Fasano, who could now see the field on practically every down.(Updated 09/09/2008).

Can anyone tell me how Martin fits into this as far as taking targets away from Fasano? Or does it even make a difference taking into account Pennington's arm?

I don't know that Pennington's arm has much to do with it, but I think it is probably of benefit to Fasano since he won't draw all the coverage. Perhaps Fasano/Martin is a diet version of Witten/Fasano?

 

[jurrassic]

I drafted Smith late, I thougt he was a great value this year coming.

Of the rest of the group, I think Fasano and McMichael for most the reasons already stated.

I actually just dropped Olsen for Fasano.

 

[two_dollars]

so what would good end of the year stats be for a Fasano? I honestly think he's an upgrade for me, but I would HAVE to bid HIGH to get him (auction for free agents).. I would rather have good coin left for weeks 10-13 right before the playoffs.

 

[JSH21]

I think McMichael is the guy to have out of these. Saunders said he wants to use the TE, and he clearly showed that in week 1. Rams will be playing from behind a lot, and with no other real threat besides Holt, McMichael will definitely see a lot of balls.

 

[abishagenaden]

Anybody buying into the Al Saunders effect for McMichael?

In PPR leagues, definitely. Drafted him in 3 of my 5 leagues.

 

[dmac37]

Anybody buying into the Al Saunders effect for McMichael?

YES!Just like Cam is with RB's - Saunders is with TE's, actually Cam is also good for TE's, look for Heap's numbers to go up.Also with Bennet out look for McMichael to get plenty of looks all year, don't forget he was a top TE FF producer a few years ago.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

I'm worried about Cooley in Zorn's new scheme, and for the first time, am thinking of carrying two TEs for the season. Fasano looks to be an integral part of this offence, Parcells being a TE-friendly kind of operator makes sense, and IIRC, Pennington frequently went to Becht in NY in end zone looks. Fasano brings soft hands and great route running skills to the table.

Will need to bite the bullet and drop a WR prospect like Matt Jones or Mark Clayton to do this, but what I saw in Week One from Cooley and the Skins makes me think it is worthwhile to mitigate what I see as some risk at my TE position.

 

[SteelerMurf]

Shoot, I was totally asleep at the wheel on the Saunders affect on McMichael. I should have noticed in the preseason that Bulger went to him a lot. It looks like McMichael was targeted 8 times last week. STL has no real #2 WR either so McMichael by design will get a ton of looks.

I like Fasano too, but he does have competition with Martin in TE receptions and I think defenses will catch on after week one that Penny was pretty much going TE exclusive. Which I find strange since Penny wasn't normally a TE kind of QB.

I had Fasano ranked higher then started to get pumped up about McMichael and since I looked to see my #1 TE Clark is bye week 4, I think that clinches the deal that I take McMichael off waivers.

 

[Phil Elliott]

McNabb really didn't have much to throw at with WR injuries. I had LJ for a couple years and he didn't do much or was hurt so I have avoided him the last two years.

 

[NeverEnough]

I don't know if I should roll with Fasano & Daniels or drop 1 for LJ Smith

 

[jerseydevil20]

Miami TEs had 16 targets last week. 16. Fasano had 10 of them, and now the news that Fasano could see more snaps. This situation reminds me of when Gates came out of nowhere to post top TE numbers. Understand - I'm not saying Fasano is a Gates talent, nor am I comparing Miami to San Diego, but opportunity plus limited WR talent, plus suspect running game, plus weak armed QB MIGHT mean Fasano could be special this year.

Noone knows for sure, but the odds on this one are potentially short. If positioned properly it could pay off.

 

[taz]

Bumping to see if other's are having to make a move with Heap and Daniels suddenly off tomorrow.

Picked up Carlson. I debated between him and Z. Miller, but think Carlson will be a favorite target of Hasselbeck's and might have decent value going forward.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Question: Was Alge Crumpler kidnapped by aliens? Has he become a crack addict? Does he re-emerge as soon as I grab Scaife off the wire?

TIA

 

[hauser42]

I drafted McMichael as a backup TE in my total points league, but he cold bump Donald Lee is he keeps showing me that he is going to be more than an after thought in the Rams offense. IMO Saunders will be a good thing for McMichael, he has shown in the past that he knows how to get a TE open and feed him the ball.

Fason reminds me a lot of Mark Bavarp when he was putting up 6-8TDs for the Giants. He will be a solid backup and spot starter for this year.

 

[the spanker]

Ugh, I've been looking at this over and over again. McMichael (who I presently have), Miller, and Carlson. McMike and Carl seem to be in similar circumstances and it's killing me who to play tomorrow. In PPR and it seems like a toss-up to me.

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

How is Rosario's foot? Will he be the dreaded GTD this week?

I think all of these guys are good prospects at an ever-deepening TE pool. Hard to choose between them, especially in smaller leagues with tight rosters. I have Daniels, now on bye, and several of these guys are still available. Very tough decision.

 

[GreedoShotFirst]

How is Rosario's foot? Will he be the dreaded GTD this week? I think all of these guys are good prospects at an ever-deepening TE pool. Hard to choose between them, especially in smaller leagues with tight rosters. I have Daniels, now on bye, and several of these guys are still available. Very tough decision.

I just dumped Daniels for Rosario. No hard info, but I think he plays. I also think he could be special.