Week 13 Waiver Wire Audible (1 Viewer)

[Sigmund Bloom]

listen here: http://podcast.footballguys.com/2012/Footballguys-Audible-2012-Vol210a.mp3

WW

QB

(CK 90+ Schaub 25-50)

Henne (10-20)

Locker (10-20)

Bradford (5-10)

Wilson (5-10)

Pryor (3-5)

Handcuff: Hill

RB

(BBrown90+/Quizz25-50/Wells20-40/MBush20-40/FJones20-40)

Moreno (20-40)

DeAngelo (20-40)

Vereen (15-25)

DWilson (15-25)

Jennings (7-15)

Forsett (super lotto)

WTHF: DanThomas Ingram/Ivory DRich Peerman Greene/BPowell Brown/Ballard WPowell

Lotto: Pierce Turbin Royster Gerhart Hardesty Blount Tolbert

WR

(Broyles50+/Sanu/25-50Garcon25-50/Givens20-40/Blackmon20-40/Edelman?15-25/KerleyPPR15-25)

Bess (PPR) 15-25

Hilton 15-25

Gordon (playoff sked) 7-15

WTHF GTate Manningham Stokley SMoss EBennett

PPR hi floor JoshMorgan Roberts JWright (one week) Beasley/DHarris (?)

TE

(Lewis20-40/Clark20-40/Bennett15-25)

Pitta (15-25)

Cook (15-25)

Tamme (7-15)

Keller (7-15)

Housler (7-15)

Drop

DJones

Chandler

Hawkins

Ball

Dreessen

Allen

Avery

Hunter (?)

Mend

AnBrown

LSH

Douglas

James Jones

PThomas

Paulsen

ASmith

Woodhead

Stewart

Drop in a jam

DBrown/Ballard

Greene/Powell

GB RB

Lloyd

Gates

Flacco/Fitz/Rivers

Don’t Drop

Hillman

Fred Jackson

BTate

Hartline

Reece

DMoore

Palmer

Sanders

Maclin/Djax/Celek

Vick

Amendola

 

[letter_j]

 

[Macdaddy_2004]

Why broyles #1? Think he is better than Garcon with rg3?

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Why broyles #1? Think he is better than Garcon with rg3?

no one passes more than DET and even bigger game was there for him on tgiving. in nonppr its closer

 

[Kenny Powers]

Thanks for saying not to drop Broyles last week

Targetting David Wilson in all leagues, partially because anyone you have over him is gone in all my leagues, but I think you and Waldman are both a little low on him.

 

[mquinnjr]

Thanks for saying not to drop Broyles last week Targetting David Wilson in all leagues, partially because anyone you have over him is gone in all my leagues, but I think you and Waldman are both a little low on him.

I can get on board with this. He's definitely attainable in leagues where guys are basically not here and just reading the ESPN Fantasy front page if he was dropped. Bradshaw always seems to get nicked, would be great to see him get the lion's share and pull a Bryce on us, sans the fumbles.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Bloom - Im looking at my WW's and a guy Im surprised to not see listed by either you or Waldman is Lafell. I drafted him in 2/3 leagues but dropped him somewhere around week 4-6 with both him and Cam struggling. He has at least 7 targets 4 out of his last 5 games, a TD in 3/5 games, 74+ yds in 3/4 games. He actually has the most pts of any WR on my WW now

Cam seems to be turning it around and their schedule is pretty damn good for the rest of the year - KAN, ATL, SD, OAK, NO. Seems like a pretty good option.

 

[Macdaddy_2004]

Bloom if you had to pick one of these guys from the rb/wr for this week who would it be? Brolyes? Quizz?

 

[munygon2]

I see Vereen is well ahead of Jennings in this list, yet Jennings is now the starter again for the foreseeable future with good matchups ahead. Any reason why Vereen is ranked higher?

 

[Max Power]

I see Vereen is well ahead of Jennings in this list, yet Jennings is now the starter again for the foreseeable future with good matchups ahead. Any reason why Vereen is ranked higher?

you weren't starting Jennings last time he was a "starter" were you?

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Bloom - Im looking at my WW's and a guy Im surprised to not see listed by either you or Waldman is Lafell. I drafted him in 2/3 leagues but dropped him somewhere around week 4-6 with both him and Cam struggling. He has at least 7 targets 4 out of his last 5 games, a TD in 3/5 games, 74+ yds in 3/4 games. He actually has the most pts of any WR on my WW nowCam seems to be turning it around and their schedule is pretty damn good for the rest of the year - KAN, ATL, SD, OAK, NO. Seems like a pretty good option.

I might be underselling him. Not sure how consistent he'll be, but two good weeks in a row is a start. definitely worth consideration as upside wr3/flex

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

I see Vereen is well ahead of Jennings in this list, yet Jennings is now the starter again for the foreseeable future with good matchups ahead. Any reason why Vereen is ranked higher?

you weren't starting Jennings last time he was a "starter" were you?

yeah jennings was such a let down first time around as a starter this year. maybe henne's downfield throwing opens things up a bit, but burn me once...vereen might only need 8-12 touches a week in that offense to outproduce RJ

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Bloom if you had to pick one of these guys from the rb/wr for this week who would it be? Brolyes? Quizz?

brown then broyles.

 

[munygon2]

I see Vereen is well ahead of Jennings in this list, yet Jennings is now the starter again for the foreseeable future with good matchups ahead. Any reason why Vereen is ranked higher?

you weren't starting Jennings last time he was a "starter" were you?

No, but he was putting up borderline RB2 numbers in my league (non-ppr) due to the scoring (1 pt per 7 yards and return yardage also counts), therefore he was at least flex play worthy if not better - and the owner dropped him last week thinking Parmele would get the call going forward. With Henne throwing it around, teams aren't stacking the box as much either, and the schedule isn't too brutal. I was just curious which player would likely hold the most value into the playoffs.

 

[mquinnjr]

Sig, thanks for putting this together each and every week with you and your staff. We appreciate it, subscribers and not.

My team's pretty set, but I'm looking to get a tune up at depth RB/defensive play. I missed on Moreno as depth, sitting at the computer before kickoff last week and saying, "Why do this, you never know with Donald Brown."

Anyways, we do snake WW based on standings and I'm 11 of 12. Since it's keep three/competitive, guys out of the playoff picture will still snipe guys just for the heck of it as we enter the playoffs.

I have ADP, DMC, LeShoure, and Mendy (Keeper so not dropping him just yet), Brown. My order for pickups is M-Bush, Moreno, Tate, Powell, Vereen, D-Wilson, Forsett, Cedric Peerman.

I know you said in the podcast Brown could have big play potential, but he's been pretty pedestrian at best when he had the workload, and is in a full-on timeshare now at best. My question is, where would you draw the line in terms of those backs you'd pick up for the upside you see with DBrown? I'm thinking D-Wilson.

Thanks Sig!

 

[Kenny Powers]

Sig, thanks for putting this together each and every week with you and your staff. We appreciate it, subscribers and not. My team's pretty set, but I'm looking to get a tune up at depth RB/defensive play. I missed on Moreno as depth, sitting at the computer before kickoff last week and saying, "Why do this, you never know with Donald Brown." Anyways, we do snake WW based on standings and I'm 11 of 12. Since it's keep three/competitive, guys out of the playoff picture will still snipe guys just for the heck of it as we enter the playoffs. I have ADP, DMC, LeShoure, and Mendy (Keeper so not dropping him just yet), Brown. My order for pickups is M-Bush, Moreno, Tate, Powell, Vereen, D-Wilson, Forsett, Cedric Peerman. I know you said in the podcast Brown could have big play potential, but he's been pretty pedestrian at best when he had the workload, and is in a full-on timeshare now at best. My question is, where would you draw the line in terms of those backs you'd pick up for the upside you see with DBrown? I'm thinking D-Wilson. Thanks Sig!

After seeing the touch distribution last week and considering their offense, I think Moreno is easily the go-to guy here. I wish I knew that last week though <_<

 

[Ace zero1]

I can't trust Jennings again. He burned me bad in the Indy game. Hope for Moreno tonight but most likely Dwyer.

 

[mquinnjr]

Sig, thanks for putting this together each and every week with you and your staff. We appreciate it, subscribers and not. My team's pretty set, but I'm looking to get a tune up at depth RB/defensive play. I missed on Moreno as depth, sitting at the computer before kickoff last week and saying, "Why do this, you never know with Donald Brown." Anyways, we do snake WW based on standings and I'm 11 of 12. Since it's keep three/competitive, guys out of the playoff picture will still snipe guys just for the heck of it as we enter the playoffs. I have ADP, DMC, LeShoure, and Mendy (Keeper so not dropping him just yet), Brown. My order for pickups is M-Bush, Moreno, Tate, Powell, Vereen, D-Wilson, Forsett, Cedric Peerman. I know you said in the podcast Brown could have big play potential, but he's been pretty pedestrian at best when he had the workload, and is in a full-on timeshare now at best. My question is, where would you draw the line in terms of those backs you'd pick up for the upside you see with DBrown? I'm thinking D-Wilson. Thanks Sig!

After seeing the touch distribution last week and considering their offense, I think Moreno is easily the go-to guy here. I wish I knew that last week though <_<

Yeah, me too. I wish I had just listened to everyone in the Moreno thread and had some stones. Anyways, teams (in it or not, leave that discussion for another thread) will be active, thus the list. I get a bye if I get a W this week, but picking 11th makes me think I'm getting into the middle of that list, as bad as I want Bush/Moreno. I like Tate 3rd since (if healthy) he could possibly score like a flex spelling Foster in that offense, and would be Bryce-like if Foster were to go down. Powell's carries are increasing, and he's doing more than Donald Brown in a somewhat similar situation. Similarly (sp?) I feel with Vereen. I love Tate, Powell, and Vereen in the time split with flex possible production roles, with the upside of being monstrous in the case of an injury to the lead back/preservation of lead back for NFL playoffs real-life scenarios. Typing this out might've helped me, as I think I draw the line there now that I really think about it. I guess I'd go David Wilson with ABrown out backing up Bradshaw as an extreme stretch. Forsett and Peerman are purely hail mary's.

 

[Detroit Revival]

Sig, what is your opinion on David Wilson now that Lumpkin and Torain have been signed by N.Y.?

 

[sirsydney]

Hey Sigmund & Cecil

Just wanted to say thanks for all your hard work and passion to do this. The "huge tracts of land" and "catch the baby" comments had me crying with laughter, along with the Blues Brothers visual. That's the stuff that keeps me coming back, along with the plethora of useful information.

Keep it up. I'm subscribing for sure next year!

 

[4th&inches]

Sig/ Cecil - I know it's a little late at night for a response, but I'm in a 12-team short bench (14-man roster) league. Garcon is on the WW and I have Hartline & Antonio Brown...how would you rank these 3 for the rest of the year?

thanks for all you do

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Sig, thanks for putting this together each and every week with you and your staff. We appreciate it, subscribers and not. My team's pretty set, but I'm looking to get a tune up at depth RB/defensive play. I missed on Moreno as depth, sitting at the computer before kickoff last week and saying, "Why do this, you never know with Donald Brown." Anyways, we do snake WW based on standings and I'm 11 of 12. Since it's keep three/competitive, guys out of the playoff picture will still snipe guys just for the heck of it as we enter the playoffs. I have ADP, DMC, LeShoure, and Mendy (Keeper so not dropping him just yet), Brown. My order for pickups is M-Bush, Moreno, Tate, Powell, Vereen, D-Wilson, Forsett, Cedric Peerman. I know you said in the podcast Brown could have big play potential, but he's been pretty pedestrian at best when he had the workload, and is in a full-on timeshare now at best. My question is, where would you draw the line in terms of those backs you'd pick up for the upside you see with DBrown? I'm thinking D-Wilson. Thanks Sig!

bush and moreno over them for sure. probably vereen and wilson too

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Sig, what is your opinion on David Wilson now that Lumpkin and Torain have been signed by N.Y.?

that was expected, but wilson still guy to own if bradshaw gets hurt and will get 6-10 touches, enough to have WTHF value.

 

[Nucker101]

Sig, what is your opinion on David Wilson now that Lumpkin and Torain have been signed by N.Y.?

that was expected, but wilson still guy to own if bradshaw gets hurt and will get 6-10 touches, enough to have WTHF value.

You guys are really pushing this WTHF stuff.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Sig/ Cecil - I know it's a little late at night for a response, but I'm in a 12-team short bench (14-man roster) league. Garcon is on the WW and I have Hartline & Antonio Brown...how would you rank these 3 for the rest of the year?thanks for all you do

garcon over both. brown close in PPR

 

[4th&inches]

Sig/ Cecil - I know it's a little late at night for a response, but I'm in a 12-team short bench (14-man roster) league. Garcon is on the WW and I have Hartline & Antonio Brown...how would you rank these 3 for the rest of the year?thanks for all you do

garcon over both. brown close in PPR

yeah, forgot to mention it's a .5PPR league. Side note, would you put priority on Moreno (currently have Foster & Martin) or Garcon?

 

[DarkNation20]

Why do you guys have Sanu ranked so much higher than Tate, who has had slightly better production over a longer period of time?

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Couple of questions.

1) What's the deal with the Edelman? ...and him still commanding 15-25? If he can't pass his concussion tests this week, does he potentially lose his status as the hot hand and go back to being bench fodder?

2) Why does Givens command 20-40 and Gordon only 7-15? Yet Gordon is ahead of Givens in the top 200 going forward? Wouldn't the playoff schedule alone be the tiebreaker?

and one final question:

Where does Rudolph sit on this list? I just dropped him to the wire because of the news of a shoulder injury. Is he a drop, hold, or pickup going forward? Pitta's available too. I can't seem to separate these two.

Thanks!

 

[DevilintheDetail]

Couple of questions. 1) What's the deal with the Edelman? ...and him still commanding 15-25? If he can't pass his concussion tests this week, does he potentially lose his status as the hot hand and go back to being bench fodder?2) Why does Givens command 20-40 and Gordon only 7-15? Yet Gordon is ahead of Givens in the top 200 going forward? Wouldn't the playoff schedule alone be the tiebreaker?and one final question:Where does Rudolph sit on this list? I just dropped him to the wire because of the news of a shoulder injury. Is he a drop, hold, or pickup going forward? Pitta's available too. I can't seem to separate these two.Thanks!

Edelman was practicing yesterday, not limited, apparently. Looks like he's fine. He started and played over Lloyd in 2-WR sets last week. He had 64 yards and a TD in the first half last week. With Gronk out and Hernandez limited still somewhat, Edelman is a WR2 I think, when healthy.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Edelman was practicing yesterday, not limited, apparently. Looks like he's fine. He started and played over Lloyd in 2-WR sets last week. He had 64 yards and a TD in the first half last week. With Gronk out and Hernandez limited still somewhat, Edelman is a WR2 I think, when healthy.

So Edelman has in fact passed his concussion tests to practicing unlimited? All the sources I have checked on say he's practiced limited and still has to pass tests to be active. I'm not disputing your info. Just want to be clear. I notice Edleman comes in this week as WR60, a far cry from WR2 territory.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

listen here: http://podcast.footballguys.com/2012/Footballguys-Audible-2012-Vol210a.mp3

WW

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WR

(Broyles50+/Sanu/25-50Garcon25-50/Givens20-40/Blackmon20-40/Edelman?15-25/KerleyPPR15-25)

Bess (PPR) 15-25

Hilton 15-25

Gordon (playoff sked) 7-15

WTHF GTate Manningham Stokley SMoss EBennett

PPR hi floor JoshMorgan Roberts JWright (one week) Beasley/DHarris (?)

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Drop

DJones

Chandler

Hawkins

...

Allen

Avery

...

Antonio Brown

...

Douglas

James Jones

...

Drop in a jam

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Lloyd

Gates

...

Fitz

...

Don’t Drop

...

Hartline

...

DMoore

...

Sanders

Maclin

...

Amendola

I read the Waiver Report and the Waiver article and there seems to have been a bit of a gap between when Blackmon went off vs HOU and this week. Maybe the presumption was that he was nearly totally owned but that's not the case. The second game last week was another good effort.I ended up ranking these 1. Broyles, 2. Blackmon, 3. Garcon.

I drafted Blackmon and Garcon. I added and dropped and added Garcon and finally let him go, the theory being that whereas at the beginning of the year he looked like he would get buckets of targets and red zone chances but now he appears to be part of a committee, perhaps they limit his playing time because of concerns about the foot, and he is now getting fewer targets and you have to hope for the one big long play like last week.

Blackmon no longer has Robinson to deal with & the Jags even got rid of Spurlock, so it's basically him and Cecil with Henne chucking it to get a starting gig next year with little run game. And he gets the Pats week 16.

Broyles just looks like pure talent to me. That 126 yard day was blown up with a 40 yard gain in OT but Young was getting TD opportunities out of that position and so should Broyles. I'm pouncing because it looks like Young has been demoted.

Edelman seems next but again few chances plus he's emerged twice and gotten hurt twice.

I'm wondering if anyone agrees or disagrees with this as there has been a mini-run on WRs in the final week before the playoffs and it's pretty important to get this right. Meanwhile others like Denarius Moore, Golden Tate or Jeremy Maclin or even Fitzgerald might be getting dropped.

Thoughts on just the WRs?