apalmer
Footballguy
Almost exactly what I was thinking, but I wouldn't waste time on Ebron. I think Washington gets the downfield work (with Claypool moving to the slot) and Freiermuth becomes the the "3rd down and 2" guy.
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Weekly Waiver Wire Pick Ups - **CHAMPIONSHIP WEEK** Week 17 starts on Page 30 (2 Viewers)
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Sir Psycho
Footballguy
Mack ?
Nick Mensio
@NickMensio
The #Chiefs have “looked into” Marlon Mack as a trade target, according to
@JFowlerESPN
. Clyde Edwards-Helaire is going to be sidelined multiple weeks:
Nick Mensio
@NickMensio
The #Chiefs have “looked into” Marlon Mack as a trade target, according to
@JFowlerESPN
. Clyde Edwards-Helaire is going to be sidelined multiple weeks:
zamboni
Footballguy
Sounds good in theory, but hard to imagine Mack stepping right into a prominent role with Williams and McKinnon also there to take touches. And would probably be a short-lived role at that.
Chaka
Footballguy
I think it is fair to speculate that Mack is the better talent of that group. Obviously coming off that big injury is an x-factor but Williams wasn't able to earn touches over guys like LeSean McCoy and LeVeon Bell over the past two seasons, let alone the backs in front of them (Damien Williams & CEH).
McKinnon seems like his time has past. He flashed a bit, in limited action as a rookie & 2nd year player but didn't do much in the two seasons he saw extended action then he got the knee injury and is 29 years old.
There is some short term potential to seize a the lead role in KC and, if he can return to form at 25 1/2 years old he could carve out a nice role in KC even after CEH returns.
zamboni
Footballguy
Agree there is some potential value in the ST, but I think it's CEH's backfield when he returns. For those in keeper/dynasty leagues, Mack is also a free agent after this year if he shows something.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Goedert on Covid-Reserve list, which means he's almost certainly out for Thursday. Ertz could be a good streaming option.
zamboni
Footballguy
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
We've been saying all year that if it gets down to one TE in Philly, that person will be usable. We just assumed it would be Goedert after an Ertz trade
Chaka
Footballguy
I agree, I see no reason why CEH won't be the guy once he gets back.
However I also think that if Mack truly rounds into '18-'19 form like he could take a few more touches away from CEH than Williams & McKinnon do ATM.
zamboni
Footballguy
Looks like the Chiefs just signed Elijah McGuire to the practice squad, so Mack may not be on the horizon regardless.
Chaka
Footballguy
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
I wonder where else Mack could play a prominent role? Baltimore, whom they played last night and Mack showed off a few nice runs and burst. Murray is an old war horse and Ty'Son not ready for the big stage, Bell not offering much.
Scooby1974
Footballguy
KC might we wise to get Mack and run he and CEH like Clev splits Chubb and Hunt (not comparing skill sets). Just a lot less shares to go around in KC....but if we are talking real football...
Chaka
Footballguy
Yeah, I don't ever see Andy Reid committing to the run enough to make that worthwhile from a magic football perspective.
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rschroeder1
Footballguy
This is why I've targeted Mack - low chance of panning out but potentially a virtually free RB2 for next year. Obviously roster sizes apply, blah blah blah.zamboni said:
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apalmer
Footballguy
Yeah, read Sig's write-up this morning and rushed to get my claim in on Toney. Then I read Henry's "Rest of Season" rankings that has him as the #69 WR behind the likes of James Washington, Tre'Quan Smith and Elijah Moore. So, he's either going to be a star or a waste of money.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
facook
Footballguy
On the TE front, since you brought it up: I'm in a 4 person bench league, with Fields, Carson, Diontae, and Thielen on the bench (AJB and Hollywood starting this week for now). Pitts is starting TE. Would you drop any of those, including Pitts, for a one week TE starter knowing you might lose out on Pitts ROS if I can't get him back on waivers next week? I'm leaning toward Fields as Lamar is starting, but if Lamar gets hurt and Fields is picked up, pickings are slim for QB on waivers.
Weebs210
Footballguy
matuski
Footballguy
I've started 4 so far this year. Chuba x 2, Damien x 1, Toney x 1. About to be more Damien and Toney next couple weeks.
In first place so,
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Yeah, I'll probably go about 45% for him in a league that has Cooks, Mixon, and Montgomery all banged up. 20-30 range for Toney.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Not desperate..just finding the best for this week. To cover Pitts.
Henry a better floor...but may shoot for Ertz's ceiling.
The Captain
Footballguy
Bateman or Toney? Using my #1 priority on one of these two. Thoughts?
Lion to myself
Footballguy
Toney has shown it already and is already the most dynamic WR on the team. Hollywood Brown as been really good, so that could cap Bateman, plus he hasn’t shown anything so there is a bit of unknown.
That’s a tough one. I think you are forced to cut fields - or give it a go with no te this week
zamboni
Footballguy
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That's the definite challenge with multiple voices. Sigmund is also lower on Devontae Booker than many. Sig and Bob and Justin are all super smart guys that work hard at this.
And just like all our content, there will be times when not everyone agrees.
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themeistersinger
Footballguy
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
titusbramble
Footballguy
In my leagues:
- Got McKinnon for 0.1% and picked Peoples-Jones as a free agent, I know it's superflex but dropping half the budget on Geno seems bad
- Got Rondale for 9%. Someone shot entire load on Darrell Williams, even without him 40% wouldn't have got him, but it would have got Toney (edit - the guy bidding on Darrell already has Henry, Ekeler and Patterson, so, er, ok)
- In final league picked up Toney for 18%, bidding a bit more sedate in this one with Williams, Booker going for 20-30%
- Got McKinnon for 0.1% and picked Peoples-Jones as a free agent, I know it's superflex but dropping half the budget on Geno seems bad
- Got Rondale for 9%. Someone shot entire load on Darrell Williams, even without him 40% wouldn't have got him, but it would have got Toney (edit - the guy bidding on Darrell already has Henry, Ekeler and Patterson, so, er, ok)
- In final league picked up Toney for 18%, bidding a bit more sedate in this one with Williams, Booker going for 20-30%
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Mookie
Footballguy
3 weeks ago, Patterson was for me in a short bench, ppr, Yahoo league where he has WR/RB eligibility. Colossal pick up as he is now WR7/RB3 and aside from bye week, he is going to be a major part of that offense going forward.
sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
Digging absurdly deep here but....
anyone else in deep bench leagues give a second of consideration to Derrick Gore? Don't get me wrong, Darrel Williams and then McKinnon first, but given their own limitations is it impossible that Gore gets a crack at 5 touches to show what he can do if the Chiefs do something that resembles more of a committee?
Pre-season darling that didn't make the cut and was re-signed to the practice squad. Probably just a case of me watching this guy torch the Vikings in their preseason game. I don't know that there's anything to get excited about aside from a few preseason highlights from this year. Not a spring chicken and saw a 4.63 40-time somewhere out there. Seems to have bounced around to a few practice squads.
In a yahoo league where I can just move on to the next FA injury stash RB in the 3 o'clock games, I might consider parking on him at noon just in case.
anyone else in deep bench leagues give a second of consideration to Derrick Gore? Don't get me wrong, Darrel Williams and then McKinnon first, but given their own limitations is it impossible that Gore gets a crack at 5 touches to show what he can do if the Chiefs do something that resembles more of a committee?
Pre-season darling that didn't make the cut and was re-signed to the practice squad. Probably just a case of me watching this guy torch the Vikings in their preseason game. I don't know that there's anything to get excited about aside from a few preseason highlights from this year. Not a spring chicken and saw a 4.63 40-time somewhere out there. Seems to have bounced around to a few practice squads.
In a yahoo league where I can just move on to the next FA injury stash RB in the 3 o'clock games, I might consider parking on him at noon just in case.
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Guest
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I believe Jeff Wilson is not coming back now until earliest of Nov. 21. Given the failure of Sermon to capture the lead role I think that Mitchell becomes a potential target again. San Fran on bye this week which gives him 1 more week to get shoulder back in game shape. Maybe 1 week early but I will be looking at Mitchell next week.
themeistersinger
Footballguy
FAAB report for this week in my league
Devontae Booker - win at 275, second highest was 201
Darrel Williams - win at 201, second highest was 185 - I am the CEH manager and I bid 115
Dawson Knox - win at 190, second highest was 1
Kadarius Toney - win at 113, no other bids (this is the one I won)
Nick Folk - win at 50, no other bids
Cowboys DST - win at 17, no other bids (I also won this one)
Devontae Booker - win at 275, second highest was 201
Darrel Williams - win at 201, second highest was 185 - I am the CEH manager and I bid 115
Dawson Knox - win at 190, second highest was 1
Kadarius Toney - win at 113, no other bids (this is the one I won)
Nick Folk - win at 50, no other bids
Cowboys DST - win at 17, no other bids (I also won this one)
Lord Lucan
Footballguy
This was a Dynasty league which obviously changes things, but we get $300 per year and can carry over any unspent. I bid $175 on Toney and didn't get close - the winning bid was $454 from a guy who's clearly been keeping his powder dry for such an opportunity for a year or two.
4th&inches
Footballguy
Wow, of all the possible Keepers/ Dynasty players that have been available the past couple seasons and Toney was his dart throw?
Fwiw, I bid $44 of my $200 FAAB in my Keeper league (can only keep players 3yrs max) and there wasn't even anyone else bidding on him. I started at $13, raised to $30, then finally settled on $44 based on all I've seen/ read on his future outlook... a bit annoyed I overbid by $43, but still happy I got him...(glass 1/2 full i guess)
Golden Gopher
Footballguy
I spent $607 ($1000 annual budget) on Toney, and the next highest bid was $77. Oof. Needless to say, a little disappointed that I overbid by more than half of my budget. On the other hand, other than C. Patterson, I think Toney is the most dynamic WR waiver add this year, with tons of upside. And, my $$ wasn't doing any good not being spent. I'm actually pretty surprised that nobody else bid more, considering some of the other bids in previous weeks....
Week 2 - Elijah Mitchell $437
Week 3 - C Patterson $509
Week 4 - C Hubbard $491
Week 5 - Dawson Knox $175 and Randy Bullock $200... That has to have been some sort of fat-finger mistake.
Week 2 - Elijah Mitchell $437
Week 3 - C Patterson $509
Week 4 - C Hubbard $491
Week 5 - Dawson Knox $175 and Randy Bullock $200... That has to have been some sort of fat-finger mistake.
titusbramble
Footballguy
I am confused as to how Toney wasn't drafted and held on to through week 4 in dynasty. I cut him in week 2-3 in redraft, but in dynasty I can completely understand shooting your load on a rookie WR that looks like they may have instant results. It must be a much, much shallower league than typical dynasty leagues
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ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Just stumbled on this tweet. No idea how accurate it is, but I found it very helpful to see all these projected return dates listed in one place.
Based on this I could definitely see targeting Jeudy on waivers next week.
Based on this I could definitely see targeting Jeudy on waivers next week.
Ha same for me. In a keeper league where he would only cost a 12th and I bid $35 and the next highest was $6
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Is it weird that, even though I was planning on starting Damien Williams, and even though Herbert is out there as a free agent, I'm not taking the cheese on him? I'm planning on subbing in Jacobs, and in order to add Herbert I'd have to drop Gainwell. Herbert is a mostly unproven commodity who will likely only be starting for a week.
OK, the more I think about it, it's definitely not weird.
OK, the more I think about it, it's definitely not weird.
