Chase Stuart
Footballguy
No word yet on the severity.
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Wes Welker goes down with bad knee injury (1 Viewer)
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David Yudkin
Footballguy
Now we know why teams sit players in Week 17.
THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA
Footballguy
Carted off and he his really upset about it.
Looks like he tore his ACL on it...wasnt hit just knee buckled
Looks like he tore his ACL on it...wasnt hit just knee buckled
Workhorse
Footballguy
Fluky injuries like that can happen in practice too.
duece2626
Footballguy
This could just as easily happened in week 15 or 16.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
I'm not disputing that. And he could have gotten hit by a bus crossing the street. But if he didn't play today he wouldn't have gotten hurt today.I'm also not saying I would de facto bench everyone, only this is why teams sit people in games that really don't matter very much.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Wasn't it Sig that started a thread about Welker playing on a bad knee early in the season? He's probably been over correcting on it all season.
He should have been playing, he shouldn't have been playing, whatever. If it's the same knee this probably would have happened at some point anyway. I'm just glad I took notice and traded him in my one dyno in which I wasn't competing for the title anyway.
He should have been playing, he shouldn't have been playing, whatever. If it's the same knee this probably would have happened at some point anyway. I'm just glad I took notice and traded him in my one dyno in which I wasn't competing for the title anyway.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Isn't a torn ACL usually a full year of recovery? If that is what this is (which odds are, it is), that could knock him out for the whole '10 season, too. Ouch.
gorf
Footballguy
fwiw, it looked more like an MCL injury than an ACL injury (to this non-medical professional).
J Andersson
Footballguy
I don't get the game where I'm at but from the boxscore it seems that the Pats are still having their top dogs out there?
J Andersson
Footballguy
I hope Julian Edelman can step up in a big way now...
Arch Stanton
Footballguy
I thought threads like this weren't supposed to happen. Shouldn't this be in the injury or game thread?
Moss & Brady both still in.
Balco
Footballguy
Workhorse
Footballguy
Or in Chase's case, the gloating thread.
cobalt_27
Footballguy
Which is why nobody should play in Weeks 1 through 16, too. Too risky.
FavreCo
Footballguy
Yep. Something like this takes heat off Indy's mgmt.
Balco
Footballguy
Big difference. Pats are in the Playoffs, no reason to play their starters and risk injury. THey took the chance, and Welker is out for the playoffs.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Considering how productive he was in the games Welker missed earlier this season, it wouldn't surprise if Edelman was just as productive. Not trying to take anything away from Welker, but tons of possession WRs could thrive in an offense with Tom Brady throwing the ball and Randy Moss drawing major coverage on every play.
Workhorse
Footballguy
No offense but that comment is ridiculous since Indy is currently playing Manning and company in Buffalo.
Workhorse
Footballguy
Football = injuries.
cobalt_27
Footballguy
Well, this proves what a moron Belichick is. Since you have declared this is as meaningless football, he's an idiot and didn't understand the circumstances.
Could be 6 months. ACL medical progress is impressive.
Team Legacy
Footballguy
I think it's entirely relevant actually. It was the first thing that crossed my mind when Welker went out. Injuries are real and they happen to the very best of players. Limiting time on the field can only aid in this associated risk.
true but that's a possibility with any injury to any player.
Clinton
Footballguy
But you're taking plenty away from Welker when you suggest that a rookie who just converted to receiver will be just as productive as the league leader in receptions and YPG. Tons of possession receivers may thrive in New England's offense, but I can't think of many that would thrive to the extent of Welker. When are people going to stop selling this guy short? He's excelled for three years now.
IIRC one year Manning and Co. were so well ahead that with the reg season rest and the playoff bye-week, they came out flat in the post-season. Rest isn't always good either.
I didn't see it. That said, any joint injury that's seen as bad right away often is because the joining appendage(?) looks displaced in an uncomfortable way like a twisted leg or a foot turned sideways after an ankle injury or somesuch.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Really a non-contact injury... looks bad, 2010 not be a good yr for WW.
Green and Gold
Footballguy
IMO, this just shut the door on whatever small chance the Patriot's had of winning the superbowl.
However, not many teams sit all their starters for the first quarter of week 17, regardless of standings. It's hard to fault Belichick for this one.
However, not many teams sit all their starters for the first quarter of week 17, regardless of standings. It's hard to fault Belichick for this one.
cobalt_27
Footballguy
Well, there are a lot of folks using this injury to argue that it was the smart move by Indy to tank the balance of their season to protect their players. Nevermind the fact that Welker's injury occurred in the 1st quarter, and it's been standard of practice for even the most cowardly of coaches to play their starters for 1 quarter of games they deem meaningless.
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KellysHeroes
Footballguy
that type of injury could of happened anywhere at anytime... it was the 3rd play of the game. Yet it will give more fuel to the fire for not even starting your starters in games like this.
For Welker.. I hope its not a tear, all of next season will be pretty much lost if he tore an ACL now.
For Welker.. I hope its not a tear, all of next season will be pretty much lost if he tore an ACL now.
Arch Stanton
Footballguy
Speculating on injuries is frowned on as is starting threads about players while their game has a thread pinned and/or the injury thread is pinned. Unless it's a mod that posts it. Anyone else that does gets it locked and a nice note not to do that anymore.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I don't care who should have done what, it's just sad. I love Welker though I hate the Pats. He plays so hard, plays so smart, and makes the most out of marginal god given talent and I think it just stinks that this happened to him and will make him a likely non factor to make it 4 years in a row with 100+ catches. You could see his body language it wasn't good. And as others have said he might never be the same.
Scooby1974
Footballguy
Watching him get carted off with a towel hanging over his head sucked. No thumbs up, no wave, no good.
Workhorse
Footballguy
ORLY?Julian Edelman is carving up the Texans right now doing his best Welker impersonation.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Agree 100%, they are DOA, not that they were going to be a huge factor but they are one team you think can pull it off almost any week. They could give SD or Indy fits for 1 game but not now. Welker and Brady really make that entire offense go, not sure where they can turn unless they have a renewed commitment to the ground game. Indy and SD are breathing big sighs of relief.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Edelman has 9-95-0 today. Okay, it is only one game, but still, I could see him being that productive in the playoffs, too. With the attention Moss draws, it is not hard for a possession WR to catch a lot of balls in that offense, especially since so many of them are around the line of scrimmage.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
You can't really think he will replace a guy that has back to back to back 100+ reception seasons do you? It's a devastating loss for the Pats and I am sure most of their fans would agree.
Workhorse
Footballguy
You also need to realize that the Patriots are starting to crank up the running game now that Taylor and Morris are healthy. I'd bet that the Pats go to a more balanced attack without Welker -- Which could end up being a good thing in the long run.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
The Patriots post season success will hinge on how the defense plays. Losing Welker might hurt some, but I don't think it's a death knell.
Workhorse
Footballguy
Sure, it's a big loss but Edelman is a nice slot player who gives you a lot of the same ability as Wes Welker.The key to the Patriots postseason is the secondary. If they can't stop the Colts or Chargers passing attack, Wes Welker wouldn't make much difference.
trader jake
Footballguy
This.Get healthy for next season Wes!
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
There is no way defenses account for Edelman the same as they will for Welker, sorry but I cannot agree with you.Welker has put together one of the most impressive 3 year runs and part of it was without Tom Brady. Locker room presence too, no way the Pats will move along in the playoffs without him.
