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We've cut the cable (3 Viewers)

Sign up for PIA ($3/month) 

Download the app and sign in with your username and password.  Open app and connect to Brazil.  Once connected google nfl gamepass.  Go to that website and sign up. It's completely fine to use your USA credit card.  The only thing they check is your IP address.  $175.

ETA: You get every game: preseason thru Superbowl.  Includes Redzone and NFL Network.  Rewind and watch condensed versions of previously played games going back to 2011.  Everything, no back outs, no restrictions. 
I just signed up for this but used the .edu route, $150 for the package.  I'm having trouble getting gamepass to work on my firetv, hoping it's because I just signed up.  I'll fight with it more tomorrow when there's more preseason games on.

 
Sign up for PIA ($3/month) 

Download the app and sign in with your username and password.  Open app and connect to Brazil.  Once connected google nfl gamepass.  Go to that website and sign up. It's completely fine to use your USA credit card.  The only thing they check is your IP address.  $175.

ETA: You get every game: preseason thru Superbowl.  Includes Redzone and NFL Network.  Rewind and watch condensed versions of previously played games going back to 2011.  Everything, no back outs, no restrictions. 
then i  can watch via my roku?

 
I just signed up for this but used the .edu route, $150 for the package.  I'm having trouble getting gamepass to work on my firetv, hoping it's because I just signed up.  I'll fight with it more tomorrow when there's more preseason games on.


then i  can watch via my roku?
I'm having troubles getting it to work on my tablets and android devices.  I can log in, it shows I have the service but I can't get the video to play. I'm hoping it has something to due with the app or tablet itself (flash player, old .apk file, or something) and not that they are checking for regions on devices or anything.  Never have a problem using a PC and luckily I have a HTPC.  You do have to have the vpn running on whatever device you are using when you go to watch games.

I'm not sure you can use roku.  You need the gamepass app which isn't available in the normal app stores in the US.  On fire and android you can install third party (.apk) apps that are available places online.

 
for those of you wiht Roku, I added private channel "USTVNOW" over the weekend and it appears to give you ABC, CBS, CW, FOX, NBC, PBS, My9, for free. Read online that the Networks are out of Harrisburg, PA. Hoping to get NFL games...we will see.

They also offer some premium options...Looks like 28 channels with "limited DVR" for $29/mo or 28 channels with unlimited DVR for $39/mo

http://watch.ustvnow.com/home
What are the steps to add a private channel?

 
for those of you wiht Roku, I added private channel "USTVNOW" over the weekend and it appears to give you ABC, CBS, CW, FOX, NBC, PBS, My9, for free. Read online that the Networks are out of Harrisburg, PA. Hoping to get NFL games...we will see.

They also offer some premium options...Looks like 28 channels with "limited DVR" for $29/mo or 28 channels with unlimited DVR for $39/mo

http://watch.ustvnow.com/home
I may have F'ed up.  I told it I was from the US, where it says that their service isn't set up. 

"Our service is exclusively for Americans living or traveling overseas. We have detected that you are currently inside the USA where at this time we do not offer our service."

 
I may have F'ed up.  I told it I was from the US, where it says that their service isn't set up. 

"Our service is exclusively for Americans living or traveling overseas. We have detected that you are currently inside the USA where at this time we do not offer our service."
where did it ask you that?

 
the NFL blows.  It's the freaking preseason and there are no great options for watching an in market game.  Ota is not optional and everything else costs way more than what the damn preseason is worth.  I typically stream regular season games on my phone with Verizon, but no, can't do the preseason because it's freaking special. 

 
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I'm having troubles getting it to work on my tablets and android devices.  I can log in, it shows I have the service but I can't get the video to play. I'm hoping it has something to due with the app or tablet itself (flash player, old .apk file, or something) and not that they are checking for regions on devices or anything.  Never have a problem using a PC and luckily I have a HTPC.  You do have to have the vpn running on whatever device you are using when you go to watch games.

I'm not sure you can use roku.  You need the gamepass app which isn't available in the normal app stores in the US.  On fire and android you can install third party (.apk) apps that are available places online.
Shuffling through preseason games right now, no sweat, not sure what was happening last night

 
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Shuffling through preseason games right now, no sweat, not sure what was happening last night
Super. Can you share where you got the gamepass app from?  That's probably my issue, an old .apk.

Nevermind, youre legit with the .edu address. It's not even called game pass is it?

 
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Super. Can you share where you got the gamepass app from?  That's probably my issue, an old .apk.

Nevermind, youre legit with the .edu address. It's not even called game pass is it?
No it's tricky, it's under the NFL app.  I looked for a gamepass app but it doesn't exist.

 
weird...don't remember it asking me for location. was this for the free or the paid service?
Free.  I just wanted to sign up and see what it did.  If I could get my locals (or really anyone's locals - NBC, CBS, Fox and ABC) live over Roku, I'd cut the cable damn quick.  I'm a *bit* too far out to get reliable OTA channels.  I'd have to not only have a HUGE antenna on my roof (where there is nothing to attach it to, no chimney), it would need to be a few feet over my roof - and I'd likely need an in line booster as well as run new COAX throughout the house. 

 
Free.  I just wanted to sign up and see what it did.  If I could get my locals (or really anyone's locals - NBC, CBS, Fox and ABC) live over Roku, I'd cut the cable damn quick.  I'm a *bit* too far out to get reliable OTA channels.  I'd have to not only have a HUGE antenna on my roof (where there is nothing to attach it to, no chimney), it would need to be a few feet over my roof - and I'd likely need an in line booster as well as run new COAX throughout the house. 
Thanks. I just don't remember them asking me for my location. I went into my profile on their page and location isn't even listed. maybe try again with a different email?

The locals are Harrisburg, PA by the way

Also, have you looked into private channel "Pear" or "Xtv"? I thin they both have network streaming available but not sure how reliable.

 
Thanks. I just don't remember them asking me for my location. I went into my profile on their page and location isn't even listed. maybe try again with a different email?

The locals are Harrisburg, PA by the way

Also, have you looked into private channel "Pear" or "Xtv"? I thin they both have network streaming available but not sure how reliable.
This is the page I get to when I do that.  E-mail, first and last name, password.....and country

 
interesting. maybe try leaving it blank?
Forces you to put something, won't go forward unless you do.  So I put in US - then when I signed in, it tells me "looks like you're in the US, this service is meant for Americans residing outside of the US" or something similar.  So not only do you have to put something in there, seems like it sees where your IP is located.

 
If SlingTV was smart, they would add adult channels. They could have them on the far side of their guide....blurred out...and if you are paying for them, you would need to enter a separate password to access these channels (to avoid wife, kids, grannies from stumbling in them).

:thumbup:

 
If SlingTV was smart, they would add adult channels. They could have them on the far side of their guide....blurred out...and if you are paying for them, you would need to enter a separate password to access these channels (to avoid wife, kids, grannies from stumbling in them).

:thumbup:
heave heard there are private Roku adult channels. I am sure a quick google search would be very...revealing

 
Free.  I just wanted to sign up and see what it did.  If I could get my locals (or really anyone's locals - NBC, CBS, Fox and ABC) live over Roku, I'd cut the cable damn quick.  I'm a *bit* too far out to get reliable OTA channels.  I'd have to not only have a HUGE antenna on my roof (where there is nothing to attach it to, no chimney), it would need to be a few feet over my roof - and I'd likely need an in line booster as well as run new COAX throughout the house. 
Try Mobdro.  http://mobdrodownload.bloopist.com/posts/how-to-install-mobdro-on-roku-without-breaking-into-sweat

 
If SlingTV was smart, they would add adult channels. They could have them on the far side of their guide....blurred out...and if you are paying for them, you would need to enter a separate password to access these channels (to avoid wife, kids, grannies from stumbling in them).

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Funny that's exactly what most of the Kodi builds do.  Except the pay for them part.

 
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Great info in this thread - many thanks. Cancelled Directv last week - what a pia - and got Vue. The fact that I can do everything with the account online without a huge customer service hassle is liberating.

NBCSN...does this live stream the Sunday night games?

 
I upgraded from Sling to Sling Orange plus Blue last week. It has all of the networks except for CBS. It costs roughly 40 bucks a month. I also pay for Netflix and Hulu. 799 each.. now I see that Hulu offers live TV. Their package is 40 bucks and you still get there on demand stuff that you always did. Plus CBS. So I could cancel Sling and save 8 bucks. The problem is, Hulu doesn't have the NFL Network, where sling does.  

Is NFL network available on a reliable Kodi Channel?

 
I upgraded from Sling to Sling Orange plus Blue last week. It has all of the networks except for CBS. It costs roughly 40 bucks a month. I also pay for Netflix and Hulu. 799 each.. now I see that Hulu offers live TV. Their package is 40 bucks and you still get there on demand stuff that you always did. Plus CBS. So I could cancel Sling and save 8 bucks. The problem is, Hulu doesn't have the NFL Network, where sling does.  

Is NFL network available on a reliable Kodi Channel?
it's on Mobdro (along with NBA/MLB/NHL networks, all the ESPNs, Fox Sports, etc)

 will find the same on Kodi's Mobdro knockoff  cCloud

 
I was happy with Sling but tried DirectTV Now at a GBs suggestion. It's awesome. Way more channels and at $40 a month I get everything I cared about on Sling, including HBO, and a bunch more, and I was basically paying Sling like 60 or 65 a month for less. 

Sling gets you more concurrent streams -- only have 2 on DTVN -- but DTVN also allows you to login to all the channel specific apps (HBO Go, Disney Jr, Nick jr, etc etc) and watch programs there. So I don't think that will be an impediment for us. 

Paid the first two months up front and got a free Roku premier out of it.  Great box, love the Roku interface, so much better than FireTV.

So far pleased with the performance of DTVN and will probably cancel Sling tomorrow.  I'll be all in for cable, phone and internet for $100 flat and not missing a beat. I used to pay Verizon $280 a month....

 
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One FireTV Box remote stopped working, so switched a TV to a Roku Ultra. I've activated all my most used apps, what else do I need to maximize my use of the Roku?

I far prefer the main interface on the Roku (the FireTV has too much content on the main screen and I hated the (most recently used) app list). The Playstation Vue and HBO GO apps appear better designed for the FireTV, but most other apps seem the same.

 
One FireTV Box remote stopped working, so switched a TV to a Roku Ultra. I've activated all my most used apps, what else do I need to maximize my use of the Roku?

I far prefer the main interface on the Roku (the FireTV has too much content on the main screen and I hated the (most recently used) app list). The Playstation Vue and HBO GO apps appear better designed for the FireTV, but most other apps seem the same.
Agree I hate the FireTV main interface. It's crowded and messy and too Amazon centric and not user friendly. Much prefer Roku. 

Not much to know really Roku is pretty basic and straightforward. 

 
I was happy with Sling but tried DirectTV Now at a GBs suggestion. It's awesome. Way more channels and at $40 a month I get everything I cared about on Sling, including HBO, and a bunch more, and I was basically paying Sling like 60 or 65 a month for less. 

Sling gets you more concurrent streams -- only have 2 on DTVN -- but DTVN also allows you to login to all the channel specific apps (HBO Go, Disney Jr, Nick jr, etc etc) and watch programs there. So I don't think that will be an impediment for us. 

Paid the first two months up front and got a free Roku premier out of it.  Great box, love the Roku interface, so much better than FireTV.

So far pleased with the performance of DTVN and will probably cancel Sling tomorrow.  I'll be all in for cable, phone and internet for $100 flat and not missing a beat. I used to pay Verizon $280 a month....
I found sling and DirecTV now to be a wash as far as value goes. What push me towards sling was NFL Network. Not available on DirecTV now.

 
I found sling and DirecTV now to be a wash as far as value goes. What push me towards sling was NFL Network. Not available on DirecTV now.
That and DTV Now doesn't have a DVR. My only gripe with Sling is that Vue and Hulu TV just added CBS. Would love if Sling added them soon.

 
That and DTV Now doesn't have a DVR. My only gripe with Sling is that Vue and Hulu TV just added CBS. Would love if Sling added them soon.
I resisted DTVNow initially because of the lack of DVR. As my buddy pointed out, these days you don't NEED DVR. Practically everything you ever want to watch is OnDemand. And with DTVN you can log into the channel specific apps, like HBOGo, which has everything. (Example: the new GoT episode each week becomes available Sunday at 9pm on the nose).  

So I initially thought we might miss DVR, but we don't at all. 

 
I resisted DTVNow initially because of the lack of DVR. As my buddy pointed out, these days you don't NEED DVR. Practically everything you ever want to watch is OnDemand. And with DTVN you can log into the channel specific apps, like HBOGo, which has everything. (Example: the new GoT episode each week becomes available Sunday at 9pm on the nose).  

So I initially thought we might miss DVR, but we don't at all. 
Isn't the fast forward not available for several days with on demand?

 
So what is currently the best/cheapest setup for a house with 4 TVs and internet (I do not need super fast internet, just regular ol 60Mbpsjfjss or whatever.

I have Time Warner, now Spectrum.  I have one cable box, which now means only one TV gets cable.  This apparently has been the case since yesterday now.  Bastards  

 
I was happy with Sling but tried DirectTV Now at a GBs suggestion. It's awesome. Way more channels and at $40 a month I get everything I cared about on Sling, including HBO, and a bunch more, and I was basically paying Sling like 60 or 65 a month for less.
Just got this exact same DirecTV Now deal, including the free Roku device and the $5 HBO package. Coming over from DirecTV proper, so our bill for TV is essentially getting cut 70%.

We do like old school network television, and getting over-the-air signals was a small challenge at first. But it's working out so far.

 
So what is currently the best/cheapest setup for a house with 4 TVs and internet (I do not need super fast internet, just regular ol 60Mbpsjfjss or whatever.

I have Time Warner, now Spectrum.  I have one cable box, which now means only one TV gets cable.  This apparently has been the case since yesterday now.  Bastards  
We have 60Mbps from Time Warner/Spectrum. Me, my wife and three kids have had as many as seven sources of streaming video simultaneously. I had three ballgames, and everyone else was watching something (Netflix, Amazon, Youtube...). 

Now if you want 4K content, you might max out a 60Mbps pipe with two or three 4K streams. 

If all four of your TVs will just get streaming content, then simply chose a device for each of them (Roku, Amazon Fire, Apple TV...) and plug it in. Make sure they've got a good wifi source, or better yet wire them directly if you can (not an option for most people). 

If you want OTA channels (which I high recommend since they're free content and have 50% of the most popular shows) then the easiest thing is to simple buy an indoor antenna for each and plug them in. This however might not be good for some TVs that can't get a good OTA signal, such as a basement TV. This is where some people put an antenna in the attic, or on the roof, and wire it down to the TVs, perhaps even splitting it for multiple TVs. This is more of an art than a science to get a good signal to TVs in bad OTA locations. An easier way might be to do what Otis did and buy a Tablo. Put one antenna where it gets great reception and then use a short cable to plug it into the Tablo. Connect the Tablo to your wifi, and all your devices just use the Tablo app to get OTA content. 

 
We have 60Mbps from Time Warner/Spectrum. Me, my wife and three kids have had as many as seven sources of streaming video simultaneously. I had three ballgames, and everyone else was watching something (Netflix, Amazon, Youtube...). 

Now if you want 4K content, you might max out a 60Mbps pipe with two or three 4K streams. 

If all four of your TVs will just get streaming content, then simply chose a device for each of them (Roku, Amazon Fire, Apple TV...) and plug it in. Make sure they've got a good wifi source, or better yet wire them directly if you can (not an option for most people). 

If you want OTA channels (which I high recommend since they're free content and have 50% of the most popular shows) then the easiest thing is to simple buy an indoor antenna for each and plug them in. This however might not be good for some TVs that can't get a good OTA signal, such as a basement TV. This is where some people put an antenna in the attic, or on the roof, and wire it down to the TVs, perhaps even splitting it for multiple TVs. This is more of an art than a science to get a good signal to TVs in bad OTA locations. An easier way might be to do what Otis did and buy a Tablo. Put one antenna where it gets great reception and then use a short cable to plug it into the Tablo. Connect the Tablo to your wifi, and all your devices just use the Tablo app to get OTA content. 
Pretty sure I am not going to be climbing up on the roof and running wires all over the place.  Also, I have  no need for 4k content.

Ideally, I would like internet and the ability to watch TV on all of my TVs.   Simple cable TV.  I don't need HBO and all the special channels.  

It seems that in order to do that you pretty much have to bite the bullet and pay for cable???  

 
I like how the "I cut the cable" thread has turned into "I'm just buying a different cable" thread. Good shtick.
People who want everything they are already get from cable/satellite shouldn't cut the cord. It's cheaper to get everything by staying with them.

Those that benefit from cord cutting are those that don't want to keep paying for everything cable/satellite provides. 

These new streaming services that are providing "everything" cable and satellite offer aren't really that much better than cable and satellite. I only had the $35/mo Vue service because it gave me ESPN, Big Ten Network and local Fox Sports Channels. Now that they've bumped it up to $45/mo, I'm probably going to cancel it and go back to switching back and forth between the two Sling options. The ESPN Sling option for football and basketball seasons. And then the Fox Sling option for baseball season. That's $270/year for the switching Sling plan instead of $540/year for Vue, and $720 for the cheapest cable/satellite option for those channels. 

 
Pretty sure I am not going to be climbing up on the roof and running wires all over the place.  Also, I have  no need for 4k content.

Ideally, I would like internet and the ability to watch TV on all of my TVs.   Simple cable TV.  I don't need HBO and all the special channels.  

It seems that in order to do that you pretty much have to bite the bullet and pay for cable???  
If your wifi can support all four locations, then it's simply a matter of getting four streaming devices (roku, amazon or whatever) and connecting them to your wifi. Then chose you streaming provider. If you don't need HBO or special channels, then Sling TV is cheaper than an basic cable rates I've heard of, but your market may have cheap basic cable. 

 
It seems that in order to do that you pretty much have to bite the bullet and pay for cable???  
No, SlingTV and DirecTV Now, among others, get you loads of cable TV channels for cheaper than what traditional cable companies charge. We had our laundry list of cable networks we wanted, checked out the services, and were pleased at how even the basic Sling and DTV Now packages were non-restrictive.

You don't have to have an antenna on the roof or anything -- that would just be a worst-case solution to receiving local programming. Spock was talking about receiving local TV stations ("over the air" or OTA) via their broadcast waves, like the way we received TV back before cable TV. DirecTV Now does in fact stream local stations in 20-something markets ( @Otis , you get these, right?) with many more to come.

There may be other services that stream local TV stations, but its also really easy to do as Spock described above with the indoor antennas. He was just pointing out some caveats with using antennas.

 
People who want everything they are already get from cable/satellite shouldn't cut the cord. It's cheaper to get everything by staying with them.
Depending on what you mean by "everything" ... this is changing rapidly. I guess it also depends on the starting price point.

 
No, SlingTV and DirecTV Now, among others, get you loads of cable TV channels for cheaper than what traditional cable companies charge. We had our laundry list of cable networks we wanted, checked out the services, and were pleased at how even the basic Sling and DTV Now packages were non-restrictive.

You don't have to have an antenna on the roof or anything -- that would just be a worst-case solution to receiving local programming. Spock was talking about receiving local TV stations ("over the air" or OTA) via their broadcast waves, like the way we received TV back before cable TV. DirecTV Now does in fact stream local stations in 20-something markets ( @Otis , you get these, right?) with many more to come.

There may be other services that stream local TV stations, but its also really easy to do as Spock described above with the indoor antennas. He was just pointing out some caveats with using antennas.
Actually it's a lot different receiving OTA today than it was receiving OTA back before cable. The switch broadcasters made back in 2009 from analog to digital signals has basically turned OTA into what people who switched to cable were wanting..... more channels! 

It's no longer just 3 channels and PBS like it was when cable arrived offering more channels. The new OTA digital signal is not only clearer than the old analog signal, but the digital signal also allows the broadcaster to have multiple channels in their one signal. So now all broadcasters are including at least one sub-channel, and some as many as 8 channels on their local signals. The Columbus, OH market that I'm in has around two dozen channels (more than three dozen if you include all the foreign and religious channels too), and again, they're all free with an antenna.

This is an important distinction because although these new streaming services are including the local ABC, NBC, CBS, and Fox channels, they're NOT including all the local sub-channels that are available for free. Granted these free channels aren't like AMC and HGTV, but just like most cable channels, sometimes they have decent content. It's basically like cable was in the early 90's... but free.  

 

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