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What is Bernard Berrian doing..... (1 Viewer)

Is/Will Bernard Berrian be worth his contract, $10 million for 2008 ALONE!!

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This guy gets a 6 year - $42 million contract, with $16 million garunteed. Is it just me,...or do i see LESS stats coming from him this year in Minn, then in CHI last year?

He was targeted 8 times monday, and had 3 catches. I think he's going to be bench eye candy for the remainder of the season. :thumbdown:

 
This guy gets a 6 year - $42 million contract, with $16 million garunteed. Is it just me,...or do i see LESS stats coming from him this year in Minn, then in CHI last year?

He was targeted 8 times monday, and had 3 catches. I think he's going to be bench eye candy for the remainder of the season. :thumbdown:
I guess I'll ask what everyone else who reads this post is thinking...what kind of stats did you expect from him this year?He got his contract because A) he was arguably one of, or THE top WR in the FA class this year, B) the cap increased quite a bit, inflating salaries, and C) hes an excellent deep threat that requires attention, even if Tavaris can only get it somewhere near him downfield, and opens up things for Peterson.

 
This guy gets a 6 year - $42 million contract, with $16 million garunteed. Is it just me,...or do i see LESS stats coming from him this year in Minn, then in CHI last year?

He was targeted 8 times monday, and had 3 catches. I think he's going to be bench eye candy for the remainder of the season. :lmao:
I guess I'll ask what everyone else who reads this post is thinking...what kind of stats did you expect from him this year?He got his contract because A) he was arguably one of, or THE top WR in the FA class this year, B) the cap increased quite a bit, inflating salaries, and C) hes an excellent deep threat that requires attention, even if Tavaris can only get it somewhere near him downfield, and opens up things for Peterson.
Stats worthy of putting him into your lineup on occasion. 3 catches for 38 yards....c'mon my WW is crawling with that kinda talent. What kinda money do you think Sindey Rice will want when his contract is up, seeing as he'll most likely outproduce Berrian for the season?
 
He is a big WR that can stretch the field- give him time to see what he can do, but I don't believe that 1 game isn't enough time to base a judgment.

 
Berrian almost scored 2 TD's this past weekend. On one of them he got tripped up from behind and the other one his left foot was out of bounds by 6 inches on a tipped ball. In addition, he was shadowed by Asanti Samuel all game. Berrian will be just fine.

 
Berrian almost scored 2 TD's this past weekend. On one of them he got tripped up from behind and the other one his left foot was out of bounds by 6 inches on a tipped ball. In addition, he was shadowed by Asanti Samuel all game. Berrian will be just fine.
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:lmao: Wrong game....and i believe that those *almost* TD catches you're speaking of *might have* happened to be on the same drive. I know what happened in the game....i just wonder if Minn. has the potential to correct things and maybe make Berrian stat worthy.
 
Called this way back when he was signed. He's a #2 WR, not a #1 WR...

All I saw was someone complain for pass interference EVERY time a ball was thrown his way, even when it bounced 5 yards in front of him

 
Berrian almost scored 2 TD's this past weekend. On one of them he got tripped up from behind and the other one his left foot was out of bounds by 6 inches on a tipped ball. In addition, he was shadowed by Asanti Samuel all game. Berrian will be just fine.
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:lmao: Wrong game....and i believe that those *almost* TD catches you're speaking of *might have* happened to be on the same drive. I know what happened in the game....i just wonder if Minn. has the potential to correct things and maybe make Berrian stat worthy.
I think they do. There's a lot of over-reacting to week one going on right now! It was Green Bay after all, in Green Bay. (Not that that matters...NO WR SHOULD EVER BE JUDGED BASED ON THE RESULTS OF ONE GAME!)
 
He is a big WR that can stretch the field- give him time to see what he can do, but I don't believe that 1 game isn't enough time to base a judgment.
So what do you think is going to change there to improve his stats?
He is going to a team that atleast has a running game. The 2007 Bears had a bad QB, RB, and OL. Berrian looked good to me on Monday. He had a TD stolen by a PI, and a few other opportunities where he didn't get a good pass. Hes not going to score every week, but I wouldn't be surprised if he has 8 TDs this year
 
Berrian almost scored 2 TD's this past weekend. On one of them he got tripped up from behind and the other one his left foot was out of bounds by 6 inches on a tipped ball. In addition, he was shadowed by Asanti Samuel all game. Berrian will be just fine.
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:lmao: Wrong game....and i believe that those *almost* TD catches you're speaking of *might have* happened to be on the same drive. I know what happened in the game....i just wonder if Minn. has the potential to correct things and maybe make Berrian stat worthy.
I think they do. There's a lot of over-reacting to week one going on right now! It was Green Bay after all, in Green Bay. (Not that that matters...NO WR SHOULD EVER BE JUDGED BASED ON THE RESULTS OF ONE GAME!)
Calm down buddy,.... i'm attacking Bernard,...not Brittany.
 
He is a big WR that can stretch the field- give him time to see what he can do, but I don't believe that 1 game isn't enough time to base a judgment.
So what do you think is going to change there to improve his stats?
He is going to a team that atleast has a running game. The 2007 Bears had a bad QB, RB, and OL. Berrian looked good to me on Monday. He had a TD stolen by a PI, and a few other opportunities where he didn't get a good pass. Hes not going to score every week, but I wouldn't be surprised if he has 8 TDs this year
:goodposting: He was targeted a lot, and yes Jackson stinks, but Berrian will still get enough to be a WR3
 
B2, as some Chicagoans refer to him as, reminds me of a Santonio Holmes type of player, without the good QB. He is very quick, not pyshical, can outrun many DB's but if he has no long ball he will have mediocre numbers. I don't see him as a possession type receiver He is just not that type of player. And I don't see Tavaris Jackson feeding him long balls consistently to be a consistent producer in FF

 
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Berrian looked good to me on Monday. He had a TD stolen by a PI, and a few other opportunities where he didn't get a good pass.
Yep. If you watched the game, you would see that 3 catches on 8 targets had much more to do with Jackson's throws and the PI call than Berrian not earning his pay. They made multiple attempts to get it to him deep. If one of those connects, we're looking at least 4 for 80 and a score. I'll take that.
 
I'm targeting him. I thought he was inches away from having a monster game on MNF. He was blowing by people in the secondary.

 
Berrian looked good to me on Monday. He had a TD stolen by a PI, and a few other opportunities where he didn't get a good pass.
Yep. If you watched the game, you would see that 3 catches on 8 targets had much more to do with Jackson's throws and the PI call than Berrian not earning his pay. They made multiple attempts to get it to him deep. If one of those connects, we're looking at least 4 for 80 and a score. I'll take that.
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Well,...all i know is 3 for 38 isn't going to win me games if i'm using him in my lineup. I just want to see what you guys think of him moving foward. Same stats he put up in Chicago, or do you see him (and Jackson) progressing throughout the season?

 
Tavaris Jackson has a career 57.1 completion % and 12TD 17 INT record. I don't care if you have TO starting next to him, he is just not going to maximize the potential for whatever WR is lining up until he improves upon those deficiencies

 
could just be the purple, but it looks like berrian has put on some weight...a good thing. i was actually impressed with him on monday, more than i thought i would be. like many, i thought he was just a fast guy, but he showed some good skill...he does need a QB, but i think he'll be good for 800-900/7.

 
1. Al Harris is probably the worst matchup for him in the NFL. He shuts him down.

2. He was still heavily involved and was very close to having a few huge plays.

3. He put up 950 and 5 in the worst possible situation last year. That's his floor imo.

 
going deep

I can't recall a WR going deep (and getting thrown to) as often since Corey Bradford.

I feel like he's going to explode one week and we'll be stuck with smallish weeks the rest of the time. If he caught all those bombs his yardage stats would be ridiculous. Well...there'd be a first down and it'd be a bit different but you get my point

 
My point was...and is...this guy is not worth a 6 year $42 million contract with $16 garunteed. I don't care who's covering you, if you're getting paid that much, you better bring me back more then 38 yards in 4 quarters of play.

 
My point was...and is...this guy is not worth a 6 year $42 million contract with $16 garunteed. I don't care who's covering you, if you're getting paid that much, you better bring me back more then 38 yards in 4 quarters of play.
Yeah, he should at least match Braylon Edwards, Torry Holt, or Chad Johnson.Oh wait...WRs have up and down games. If he's at 200 yds in 5 games, then complaining might be worth it. Now, it's just annoying. And I say he won't be one of the 5 worst contracts signed in this offseason.
 
He is extremely fast, but isn't a great route-runner by any stretch of the imagination. He can make the difficult catch, but often comes down with alligator arms. He can leap, but is not a strong/physical athlete and will rarely win a jump-ball situation. I don't think he is a one trick pony, but he is closer to that than a stud. If Jackson had better accuracy, Berrian could take advantage of the stacked box(and I'm sure he will at points scattered throughout the season)...but I'm not seeing the upside until his QB situation improves significantly. I wanted the Bears to bring him back, but not at the hefty price the Vikings paid. I do think he is perfect for that team if and when they find their QB.

 
Back to the OP's point. I am very thankful Jerry A decided to extend Briggs and let Berrian go. He could have only re-signed one of them and he chose the correct one. Berrian is a one trick pony and laugh all you want, but Grossman definitely had a lot to do with him looking good, because Grossman is very good at throwing the ball deep, which is Berrian's strength.

 
Back to the OP's point. I am very thankful Jerry A decided to extend Briggs and let Berrian go. He could have only re-signed one of them and he chose the correct one. Berrian is a one trick pony and laugh all you want, but Grossman definitely had a lot to do with him looking good, because Grossman is very good at throwing the ball deep, which is Berrian's strength.
:goodposting: To answer OPs question, Berrian is the second best WR in an offense featuring Tavaris Jackson at QB. A QB who goes 7-21 91 yds 0 tds 2 ints quite regularly. The dude is worthless, I think Id even consider dropping him in a dynasty league.
 
My point was...and is...this guy is not worth a 6 year $42 million contract with $16 garunteed. I don't care who's covering you, if you're getting paid that much, you better bring me back more then 38 yards in 4 quarters of play.
Wow, talk about premature. How about give him a full season and evaluate not only his performance but the guy getting him the ball as well. Anything less than 150 and 2 you would've started this thread.
 
Back to the OP's point. I am very thankful Jerry A decided to extend Briggs and let Berrian go. He could have only re-signed one of them and he chose the correct one. Berrian is a one trick pony and laugh all you want, but Grossman definitely had a lot to do with him looking good, because Grossman is very good at throwing the ball deep, which is Berrian's strength.
:goodposting: To answer OPs question, Berrian is the second best WR in an offense featuring Tavaris Jackson at QB. A QB who goes 7-21 91 yds 0 tds 2 ints quite regularly. The dude is worthless, I think Id even consider dropping him in a dynasty league.
Let me get a hit of that.
 
its only week 1
You're right....we're a week late. :mellow:
Herbal, you don't know #### about the force. :rolleyes: ;)
No, no....Berrian doesn't know #### about the force. Au contraire to your beliefs,...i happen to be well aware that people in this thread give him more credit than he deserves. With that being said, :packabowl:
I miss playing teh Gears with ya, GB.Maybe I'll return when GOW2 comes out. We'll see.
 
My point was...and is...this guy is not worth a 6 year $42 million contract with $16 garunteed. I don't care who's covering you, if you're getting paid that much, you better bring me back more then 38 yards in 4 quarters of play.
I know that not everyone can watch every game, but if you'd seen the game, you'd know that Berrian did everything he could in that game, and that he wasn't the problem. Give him someone to get the ball NEAR him ... you can't fault a WR for a bad QB. Berrian worked his tail off and is worth every penny of that contract. He looks like one of the better deep threats in the game. If the Vikes had half a decent passer back there, Berrian would have had 100 yards plus.
 
Back to the OP's point. I am very thankful Jerry A decided to extend Briggs and let Berrian go. He could have only re-signed one of them and he chose the correct one. Berrian is a one trick pony and laugh all you want, but Grossman definitely had a lot to do with him looking good, because Grossman is very good at throwing the ball deep, which is Berrian's strength.
:rolleyes: To answer OPs question, Berrian is the second best WR in an offense featuring Tavaris Jackson at QB. A QB who goes 7-21 91 yds 0 tds 2 ints quite regularly. The dude is worthless, I think Id even consider dropping him in a dynasty league.
While Rice is a very good WR, is he better than Berrian? Or does he just present a different skill set? I vote for the latter. The Vikes actually have two very good WRs now.... but they need a QB.
 
I know that not everyone can watch every game, but if you'd seen the game, you'd know that Berrian did everything he could in that game
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Everything but stop complaining about pass interference after EVERY pass to him fell incomplete. Sure, 1 was actually PI, but the 1 called was not, so it's a wash. MIN's offense looked like they were moreso counting on PI calls, so they were just chucking it hoping for a PI. When that didn't happen as frequently as they'd hoped they just broke down. Berrian is a WR2 thrust into a WR1 role and he just isn't good enough for it. He holds value as a bye week fill in, but if you were counting on Berrian being a "shark move" in your draft and drafted him as WR2, you'll be greatly disappointed this season

 
He is a big WR that can stretch the field- give him time to see what he can do, but I don't believe that 1 game isn't enough time to base a judgment.
So what do you think is going to change there to improve his stats?
He is going to a team that atleast has a running game. The 2007 Bears had a bad QB, RB, and OL. Berrian looked good to me on Monday. He had a TD stolen by a PI, and a few other opportunities where he didn't get a good pass. Hes not going to score every week, but I wouldn't be surprised if he has 8 TDs this year
A TD stolen by a PI?Come one... :goodposting: I agree not to panic too much...but I don't think he will consistently produce anything to make him anymore than a bye week filler or weak #3 fantasy WR.
 
This guy gets a 6 year - $42 million contract, with $16 million garunteed. Is it just me,...or do i see LESS stats coming from him this year in Minn, then in CHI last year?He was targeted 8 times monday, and had 3 catches. I think he's going to be bench eye candy for the remainder of the season. :popcorn:
Bernard Berrian is a minimalist.He does the minimum possible to get by.
 
He is a big WR that can stretch the field- give him time to see what he can do, but I don't believe that 1 game isn't enough time to base a judgment.
So what do you think is going to change there to improve his stats?
He is going to a team that atleast has a running game. The 2007 Bears had a bad QB, RB, and OL. Berrian looked good to me on Monday. He had a TD stolen by a PI, and a few other opportunities where he didn't get a good pass. Hes not going to score every week, but I wouldn't be surprised if he has 8 TDs this year
A TD stolen by a PI?Come one... :lmao: I agree not to panic too much...but I don't think he will consistently produce anything to make him anymore than a bye week filler or weak #3 fantasy WR.
:popcorn:Those refs were calling it awful for both sides. You want to talk about PIs... what about the one called on Al Harris as the two were running down the sideline. IF PI was called on ANYONE on that play it would be Berrian. But I don't think anyone was committing PI anyways. So you can consider that a wash.Seems like Berrian has rubbed off on his fans, always looking for PIs. Going to be a long season for you all ---> :loco: :wall:
 
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He missed a lot of training camp with a toe injury and had hardly played at all with Jackson. No reason in the first place to expect these guys to be Montana to Rice but if Berrian can get somewhat healthy I expect the numbers to increase. Maybe even 5-6 catches a week as they need him to get the ball.

Jackson sucks on deep throws so that might be a struggle all season and will limit his TD's. Imo.

 

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