What rookie pick(s) are Anquan Boldin worth? (1 Viewer)

[Cassius]

The problem is that not only is he 29 but he is often injured.

psst....29 isn't old for a WR.

psst...Boldin isnt your normal 29 year old WR due to his injuries

Boldin is not going to be one of these guys playing when he's 35.

I love your crystal ball.

I'd trade it for your wit.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

And were they supposed to be a passing team with only one viable WR?

No, but I don't see how adding Boldin suddenly changes their offensive scheme. I'm sure they will pass more this year and Boldin should do fine. I just don't see the upside for him and think last year's numbers - 80/1000/5 are about the best you can expect. Still good for 15 PPG in PPR and borderline #1 numbers, with the big caveat that he stays healthy.

I do not get the Boldin hate by many. I agree with cstu. While Boldin may miss a game or two, when he plays, he is a must start in PPR leagues, even in Baltimore. He has a young, strong-armed passer with only the aging Mason to compete for WR targets.

 

[stp-d]

I'd rather have crabtree, harvin or nicks... Not sure if there are 2010 rookie versions of those guys but i'd say Alot of folks would rather gamble on the youth.

 

[renesauz]

I'm not nearly as big on picks as most, so it's unlikely many people would meet my demands.

IE: Picks are highly over-rated.

A high first.

Amen to that! It would take more than the 1.01 Rookie pick to pry Boldin away from my team.

I think Boldin owners will fall into two groups in the coming months. They will either:

1.) feel none too confident of his new situation and will unload him for whatever they can, or they will

2.) feel he will put up very solid numbers and thus will be very unlikely to trade him for anything short of a windfall.

If it was Boldin with Warner then sure, but as a 29 year old WR with his best days (although he will still be effective) behind him, I would rather have Bryant going forward out of the 1.1 slot this year. Last year you could have had Crabtree and two years before Adrian Peterson. There are some guys there at 1.1 that are better than Boldin at this stage and Bryant is one of those guys.

I could see this argument, but 1.02, 1.03? People greatly over-estimate the hit rate of top picks. Anything after 1.03 is peanuts for a sure-fire starter with WR1 potential and WR2 downside, even if it's only for 3 years. 1.1/1.2 on a rebuilding team...sure.

I got Donald Brown last season with the 1.04 and I wouldn't trade him straight up for Boldin although I can see how people might disagree with me. The year before I got Ray Rice with the 1.06. So, while it is true that people over value rookie picks, it isn't fair to say that only the top two or three are any good. And there are many questions surrounding Boldin and his long term value as the thread makes clear.

And what were the 1.2, 1.3 picks? The 1.4, 1.5 and 1.7 the year before? This isn't about the hits, but the hit rate...which is much lower then people like to believe. Everyone like to think they're better at picking "hits", but few really are.

 

[Pickle Rody]

And what were the 1.2, 1.3 picks? The 1.4, 1.5 and 1.7 the year before? This isn't about the hits, but the hit rate...which is much lower then people like to believe. Everyone like to think they're better at picking "hits", but few really are.

Exactly......I know for a fact that I'm not very good at drafting rookies that "hit". I'd much rather unload my early picks and let someone else take the risk. If I didn't have Boldin already, I'd be offering up some picks to go get him (if adding him would improve my team.)I'd be awful surprised if Boldin's average yearly numbers took any kind of major hit sans injury. I think his potential to remain a must-start WR1 in most leagues got a huge boost when he was shipped out of the desert. I highly doubt his production would have remained consistent with Leinart tossing the rock. His prospects to remain consistent and not have a drop in fantasy production are much better in Baltimore.

 

[Cassius]

I'd be awful surprised if Boldin's average yearly numbers took any kind of major hit sans injury.

Prepare to be surprised. I think it's pretty impossible that Boldin comes close to the production he had with Kurt Warner in that high octane Arizona offense.I understand BAL may be a better situation than post-Warner ARI, but I think people are taking that moderate upgrade and getting way too optimistic.

 

[haterade]

Boldin has skills

but vet WRs on new teams with new systems are almost always overvalued.

 

[ebaughn]

It's all about who is avaialbe in the draft. I actually think there is a decent value up to around 1.09 or so..But in years past like the 2007 Draft I had the 1.04 which totally blew because of the drop off after the first three picks (AP, Calvin, Marshawn Lynch) and I got stuck with Brandon Jackson and I ended up holding on to him for 2 years....

 

[Todem]

I'm not nearly as big on picks as most, so it's unlikely many people would meet my demands.IE: Picks are highly over-rated.A high first.

Agreed. Picks are overrated....every year....give me proven players in their prime or at their peak all day. Boldin has 2-3 years left of prime production left.

 

[Todem]

Boldin has skillsbut vet WRs on new teams with new systems are almost always overvalued.

I used to think that......but talk to Randy Moss, TO and few others in the recent past.Studs are studs and Boldin will thrive as the #1.

 

[Todem]

And were they supposed to be a passing team with only one viable WR?

No, but I don't see how adding Boldin suddenly changes their offensive scheme. I'm sure they will pass more this year and Boldin should do fine. I just don't see the upside for him and think last year's numbers - 80/1000/5 are about the best you can expect. Still good for 15 PPG in PPR and borderline #1 numbers, with the big caveat that he stays healthy.

I do not get the Boldin hate by many. I agree with cstu. While Boldin may miss a game or two, when he plays, he is a must start in PPR leagues, even in Baltimore. He has a young, strong-armed passer with only the aging Mason to compete for WR targets.

If this is the sentiment...buy him cheap...now.

 

[Kleck]

Not just a draft pick trade, but Boldin cost me the following:

Team A gets: Betts, Ladell WAS RB, Boldin, Anquan ARI WR

Team B gets: Breaston, Steve ARI WR, Doucet, Early ARI WR, Year 2011 Round 1 Draft Pick (most likely a late 1st)