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What's the Tie-Breaker Between the....Texans? (1 Viewer)

The Jags and Bucs win again, and the Vikes tie - the race for the no.1 pick has broken wide open.

I truly hope the stupid Falcs don't back into this thing.

 
As a Vikings fan I think this tie just makes everything simpler for us. There are no tiebreakers now. Either we have a worse record for the draft, or a better. We aren't going to leave anything to "strength of schedule". I am just hoping that the Texans can beat the Jaguars in their rematch, Atlanta gets a win over Buffalo or Was, and the Jaguars can pull one off against the Browns or Buffalo.


o me, it just makes everything simpler. There are no tiebreakers now. Either we have a worse record for the draft, or a better. We aren't going to leave anything to "strength of schedule". Same for the Packers. Tiebreakers don't matter. Either they will have a better record than the rest of the teams, or a worse record. No contingencies.

 
Lots of QB-needy teams in the running for #1. The notable exception is Atlanta - if they somehow end up with the top pick they should be able to get :moneybag: :moneybag: :moneybag: :moneybag: for it.

-QG

 
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Houston is getting it....we arent winning again this season.
I wish this was true. Remember when we were 5-7 and ended up pointlessly winning 4 games? Or better yet, we beat the Colts in week 17 to remove ourselves from the Adrian Peterson sweepstakes? I had no way of knowing AP would be as awesome as he has been, but I remember watching that game, with Ron Dayne as our lead RB, and thinking we needed AP and we were blowing it. Sure enough, AP went 7 and our draft pick was 8 which we ended up flopping with Atlanta (10th) and selecting Amobi Okoye or something.

:kicksrock:

 
Houston is getting it....we arent winning again this season.
I wish this was true. Remember when we were 5-7 and ended up pointlessly winning 4 games? Or better yet, we beat the Colts in week 17 to remove ourselves from the Adrian Peterson sweepstakes? I had no way of knowing AP would be as awesome as he has been, but I remember watching that game, with Ron Dayne as our lead RB, and thinking we needed AP and we were blowing it. Sure enough, AP went 7 and our draft pick was 8 which we ended up flopping with Atlanta (10th) and selecting Amobi Okoye or something.

:kicksrock:
Week 16 Dayne decided to have a career game against the Colts (32/153/2) and even worse the following week some guy named Chris Taylor went 20/99/1 (99 out of 160 career yards).

 
Well the Titans already lost to us so they got that out of the way. Colts Jags and Titans should all enjoy whipping us at their place this time around and Denver and New England will crush us. Weve never won at Indy...ever...so we r looking at 4 wins max. Tennessee is in the hunt and owes us for last time and Jacksonville will be happy to see us again. Im seeing 2-14.

 
Houston is getting it....we arent winning again this season.
I wish this was true. Remember when we were 5-7 and ended up pointlessly winning 4 games? Or better yet, we beat the Colts in week 17 to remove ourselves from the Adrian Peterson sweepstakes? I had no way of knowing AP would be as awesome as he has been, but I remember watching that game, with Ron Dayne as our lead RB, and thinking we needed AP and we were blowing it. Sure enough, AP went 7 and our draft pick was 8 which we ended up flopping with Atlanta (10th) and selecting Amobi Okoye or something.

:kicksrock:
Week 16 Dayne decided to have a career game against the Colts (32/153/2) and even worse the following week some guy named Chris Taylor went 20/99/1 (99 out of 160 career yards).
Oh my bad, I remembered we won 2 games in a row to ruin our chances at a good draft pick. Couldn't remember which week Dayne beat the Colts. I won't be surprised if the Texans end up winning 2-3 games down the stretch here, although the loss to JAX makes me think the team has quit which would be a first under Kubiak. He is really, really good late in the season when it doesn't matter. When it does matter, he's horrible (see last year's collapse).

 
Yep. It's not hard to imagine the 3 mentioned teams winning another game. It's pretty hard to see the Skins winning one, though.

 
Jag fans need to pack the stadium, drink a lot of alcohol and get loud to give the Jags the homefield advantage they deserve...especially after such an inspiring win at Cleveland

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
cstu said:
Kool-Aid Larry said:
htf does houston have the worst record in the league?
6 losses by a total of 22 points.
Narrow losses over a season often means bad coaching.

Also, funny what happens to some teams when they get the first place schedule after a good year.
It can be funny. But since they also had a first place schedule last year when they had that good year, this wouldn't be one of those times.

 
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Now that we the fans would rather lose and get Bridgewater, Kubiak will find a way to screw us one last time and get a couple wins.

 
Sorry for the somewhat redundant thread, CSTU...

though the other one (Countdown to the #1 Pick) has more of a Rams emphasis...

cross-posted from there (the link noted below can be found in the first handful of posts in the other thread).

also, this would seem to be inexact... the full 16 game SOS can be projected for opponents records AS OF TODAY... but they could change in the next month... some of the gaps are small (JAX at .503 and STL/WAS at .516... also HOU at .550 and ATL at .553)... so perhaps this could get shuffled some more in the coming weeks, but with things increasingly getting locked in if the numbers hold up, as we approach the last game?

Thanks, JaxBill...

When I clicked on the link on my ipad, i saw the following screen...

1) HOU .550
2) JAX .503
3) STL/WAS .516
4) ATL .553
5 )TB .582

These are the full season SOS calculations.

IF HOU loses Thur., JAX gets bounced from this cluster (they will have four wins)... making STL #2 (if WAS loses out, and HOU goes winless last three games).

IF HOU wins, JAX would be #1 on SOS (if they don't win last three games), STL #2 (WAS loses out) and HOU #3 (if they are winless last three games).

so it looks like STL is positioned to be #2 no matter what happens Thur night (even accounting for the full season, SOS numbers).

If HOU loses Thur but wins just one of the three remaining games, STL would be in position for #1 with the same record but on the SOS tiebreaker.

If JAX loses Thur, but wins just one of the three remaining games, STL would be in position for #1 with worse record relative to JAX.

Every game is big in the last month, but the only other instance in which two from this group face each other, besides HOU/JAX Thur...

The ATL/WAS game in a few weeks. Obviously ATL MUST win for STL to remain in position for no worse than the #2 pick (if WAS also loses to KC, DAL & NYG again)... with upside for #1 if the LOSING team Thur night (doesn't matter which) wins one more of the remaining three.

One reason ATL has fallen so hard is injuries to star WR tandem Roddy White and Julio Jones. The latter of course on IR, but White returned Sunday and had a season high 10 catches for a season high 143 yards (on 14 targets), so he is talented enough to be the difference in the game by his presence when the Falcons face the Redskins. He has been dealing with a high ankle sprain (and hamstring) suffered in preseason (being shut down in weeks 7-9 were the first three missed games of his career?). His 10 catches were four more than his previous three games COMBINED, so hopefully he is getting healthy at the right time (for STL purposes).

 
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