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What's up with Da'rick Rogers (1 Viewer)

This guy worth a stash in dynasty?
Take a look a the #### they trot out at the WR position. They have cut 2 bums in the last few weeks. Teams now just roll coverage to Hilton and the game is over. DHB is pure trash. Brazill is just ok. There is nothing else. He gets in the game this week. You will want him on your team before he gets on the field.On top of that I am a guru in evaluating WR talent.
Guru you say?What team do you work for? Surely if you are as good as you say you are, you are working for an nfl team scouting out WR talent?

I should bookmark this thread, come back to it when Rogers is out of the nfl

 
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This guy worth a stash in dynasty?
Take a look a the #### they trot out at the WR position. They have cut 2 bums in the last few weeks. Teams now just roll coverage to Hilton and the game is over. DHB is pure trash. Brazill is just ok. There is nothing else. He gets in the game this week. You will want him on your team before he gets on the field.On top of that I am a guru in evaluating WR talent.
I should bookmark this thread, come back to it when Rogers is out of the nfl
Hopefully that's like 10-15 years from now :)

 
This guy worth a stash in dynasty?
Take a look a the #### they trot out at the WR position. They have cut 2 bums in the last few weeks. Teams now just roll coverage to Hilton and the game is over. DHB is pure trash. Brazill is just ok. There is nothing else. He gets in the game this week. You will want him on your team before he gets on the field.On top of that I am a guru in evaluating WR talent.
Guru you say?What team do you work for? Surely if you are as good as you say you are, you are working for an nfl team scouting out WR talent?

I should bookmark this thread, come back to it when Rogers is out of the nfl
Yep, guru.

Bring it. I've sent better than you slinking off with their tails between their legs.

 
Pagano confirmed today Rogers will be active this week here we go!
Coach Chuck Pagano said WR Da'Rick Rogers will be active for the Colts Sunday. Analysis: "He's going to get his shot," Pagano said. It will be the first game of Rogers' NFL career and it comes with the Colts wideout corps in shambles. Reggie Wayne is on IR, T.Y. Hilton (shoulder) is a little nicked, Darrius Heyward-Bey is completely inept and the Colts don't seem to have much faith in LaVon Brazill. Rogers won't see enough snaps to be a fantasy option right now, but he's someone to put on watch lists. The talent is there if his head is on right.

Let's effing go Rogers. Show the world you're a stud.
If he was a stud, he would have actually been drafted, not already cut by one team, and/or played long ago for the Colts.

Too many people get all worked into a lather about a player's physical attributes. The guy isn't a FOOTBALL player.
Clueless. Good job.
Do you think he's going to be good?
Yep.

 
lod01 said:
MoveToSkypager said:
lod01 said:
buck naked said:
Pagano confirmed today Rogers will be active this week here we go!
Coach Chuck Pagano said WR Da'Rick Rogers will be active for the Colts Sunday. Analysis: "He's going to get his shot," Pagano said. It will be the first game of Rogers' NFL career and it comes with the Colts wideout corps in shambles. Reggie Wayne is on IR, T.Y. Hilton (shoulder) is a little nicked, Darrius Heyward-Bey is completely inept and the Colts don't seem to have much faith in LaVon Brazill. Rogers won't see enough snaps to be a fantasy option right now, but he's someone to put on watch lists. The talent is there if his head is on right.

Let's effing go Rogers. Show the world you're a stud.
If he was a stud, he would have actually been drafted, not already cut by one team, and/or played long ago for the Colts.

Too many people get all worked into a lather about a player's physical attributes. The guy isn't a FOOTBALL player.
Clueless. Good job.
Do you think he's going to be good?
Yep.
OK. I trust you.

 
Microwave society.

Look, I getthe red flags......maybe he turns out tobe Adarius Bowman 2.0......

But this guy dominated SEC competition as a sophomore. Look at Justin Hunter emerging now. Sometimes it takes time

HE has a stud at qb and is pretty cheap. Why not for the low risk?

 
Dr. Brew said:
discountdoublecheck said:
These are all valid arguments but sometimes

these guys do hit though and if you have room

on your roster why not? Just this year Jarrett

Boykin and Andre Holmes come to mind. Both

bounced around the league and they have no

where near the QB talent. Danario

Alexander bounced around the league last year

and helped win a lot of championships. But I do

agree that often times they go right back to the

wire.
Are you suggesting Andrew luck > Aaron

Rodgers?

I have no problem with people bringing up guys

who could be good pick ups and turn into decent

starters. I just think it's funny when people hype

these guys to such a level, that when they do

play and only get a couple receptions for a

couple yards, they complain. What do you

honestly expect??

Aaron Rodgers broke his collarbone on the first series against the Chicago Bears. Boykin put up numbers with Scott Tolzein and Matt Flynn. I think Luck is better than them. I'm expecting 2 catches for 14 yards in my WR 8 spot of a dynasty league. I'm taking a one week flyer based on the talent and situation. He could run a curl route and get hit in the face with the ball because he is so dumb. Or he could fill the target monster void that Wayne left behind and be something special.

Rogers isn't going to be your saving grace this season. Even next season it's very questionable. Those in dynasty I can see stashing him. It makes sense. Aside from that, pass
 
This guy worth a stash in dynasty?
Take a look a the #### they trot out at the WR position. They have cut 2 bums in the last few weeks. Teams now just roll coverage to Hilton and the game is over. DHB is pure trash. Brazill is just ok. There is nothing else. He gets in the game this week. You will want him on your team before he gets on the field.

On top of that I am a guru in evaluating WR talent.
I can't even begin to describe how much I regret not having him on my team before he got onto the field.

1-10-TEN 48(11:25) (Run formation) A.Luck pass incomplete deep left to D.Rogers. PENALTY on TEN-A.Verner, Defensive Pass Interference, 26 yards, enforced at TEN 48 - No Play.

Defensive Pass Interference calls are 30.5 points in my league. Rogers is :moneybag:

All I have left of my FAAB is $17/100. That certainly won't be enough.

Why oh why didn't I listen to the guru :wall:

 
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Is this really going to be one of those threads where stupid people are so intent on being "right" that they'll act like an UDFA not making an impact as a rookie proves something? Sweet.

 
Is this really going to be one of those threads where stupid people are so intent on being "right" that they'll act like an UDFA not making an impact as a rookie proves something? Sweet.
I was told that the second before he steps foot on the field, I want him on my team, by the guru of evaluating WR talent. Not sure what NFL team he works for, he didn't answer my question when I asked him, but must be one of those stacked with WRs. We're lucky to have him in our forum.

Boy was he right. I missed out big time.

On a serious note, there is legitimate dynasty discussion to be had, something in the lines of 2-3 years from now, but the raging hard ons that are going on in here over this guy are ridiculous. People acting like he's their golden ticket to their FF championship. All the phyical talent in the world means nothing if you have mush between the ears. This guy seems to have the physical atributes of a good NFL WR. However, he hasn't seen an NFL field until week 13, on a team like Indy who has waived 2 WRs lately and has absolute garbage behind their #2 guy (#1 being hurt). Surely there's a reason behind that. That's all I'm saying- temper the excitement. Stash his name in the back of your head for next season for redraft leagues, and maybe in dynasty if he's available why not pick him up and stash him for next season. Might be worth it might not.

 
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Is this really going to be one of those threads where stupid people are so intent on being "right" that they'll act like an UDFA not making an impact as a rookie proves something? Sweet.
I was told that the second before he steps foot on the field, I want him on my team, by the guru of evaluating WR talent. Not sure what NFL team he works for, he didn't answer my question when I asked him, but must be one of those stacked with WRs. We're lucky to have him in our forum.

Boy was he right. I missed out big time.

On a serious note, there is legitimate dynasty discussion to be had, something in the lines of 2-3 years from now, but the raging hard ons that are going on in here over this guy are ridiculous. People acting like he's their golden ticket to their FF championship. All the phyical talent in the world means nothing if you have mush between the ears. This guy seems to have the physical atributes of a good NFL WR. However, he hasn't seen an NFL field until week 13, on a team like Indy who has waived 2 WRs lately and has absolute garbage behind their #2 guy (#1 being hurt). Surely there's a reason behind that. That's all I'm saying- temper the excitement. Stash his name in the back of your head for next season for redraft leagues, and maybe in dynasty if he's available why not pick him up and stash him for next season. Might be worth it might not.
That guy's clearly a moron. Doesn't mean you need to be one as well. I thought his comment was pertaining to dynasty, but who knows.
 
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This thread is great. Has David Wilson thread potential.
Not really. An UDFA isn't capable of generating that much hype.
And yet we're 8 pages in for a guy without an NFL catch yet.
Some people prefer to spend pages discussing whether White sucks while he's injured. Some prefer to talk about this. There's enough bandwidth for everyone's interests. For most of the people in this thread, it's an intriguing UDFA dynasty prospect.
 
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temper the excitement.
I'll never understand why anyone feels the need to say this. If you're not interested in the player, move along. What does it matter to you that people want to see him play?
Yeah, jackasses, what he (valhallan) said. Move along. You don't know #### anyway. Clearly you 2 are too stupid to be in dynasty leagues.

 
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This guy worth a stash in dynasty?
Take a look a the #### they trot out at the WR position. They have cut 2 bums in the last few weeks. Teams now just roll coverage to Hilton and the game is over. DHB is pure trash. Brazill is just ok. There is nothing else. He gets in the game this week. You will want him on your team before he gets on the field.

On top of that I am a guru in evaluating WR talent.
I can't even begin to describe how much I regret not having him on my team before he got onto the field.

1-10-TEN 48(11:25) (Run formation) A.Luck pass incomplete deep left to D.Rogers. PENALTY on TEN-A.Verner, Defensive Pass Interference, 26 yards, enforced at TEN 48 - No Play.

Defensive Pass Interference calls are 30.5 points in my league. Rogers is :moneybag:

All I have left of my FAAB is $17/100. That certainly won't be enough.

Why oh why didn't I listen to the guru :wall:
That's all you got, a stat line. I see the play however. Smoked the DB who was hanging onto Rogers jersey, for his life for about 5+ yards. It was a TD if he doesn't do that.

You ### hats will go the way the Tebowners did, the Carr lovers, the Vince young lovers and the Terrelle Pryor lovers.

 
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This guy worth a stash in dynasty?
Take a look a the #### they trot out at the WR position. They have cut 2 bums in the last few weeks. Teams now just roll coverage to Hilton and the game is over. DHB is pure trash. Brazill is just ok. There is nothing else. He gets in the game this week. You will want him on your team before he gets on the field.

On top of that I am a guru in evaluating WR talent.
I can't even begin to describe how much I regret not having him on my team before he got onto the field.

1-10-TEN 48(11:25) (Run formation) A.Luck pass incomplete deep left to D.Rogers. PENALTY on TEN-A.Verner, Defensive Pass Interference, 26 yards, enforced at TEN 48 - No Play.

Defensive Pass Interference calls are 30.5 points in my league. Rogers is :moneybag:

All I have left of my FAAB is $17/100. That certainly won't be enough.

Why oh why didn't I listen to the guru :wall:
That's all you got, a stat line. I see the play however. Smoked the DB who was hanging onto Rogers jersey, for his life for about 5+ yards. It was a TD if he doesn't do that.

You ### hats will go the way the Tebowners did, the Carr lovers, the Vince young lovers and the Terrelle Pryor lovers.
So, I'm pretty sure this makes it official: Aquil Salahudeen is back.

 
Well, I was at the game. There were 3 plays he had clear separation from the DB. Especially the play he ran the clearing 9 route for the Havili catch where Havili ran over the DB on the play.

I think within a couple of weeks, Rogers overtakes DHB on passing plays.

Time well tell.

 
Rotoworld:

Da'Rick Rogers played on 13-of-65 snaps (20 percent) in Sunday's Week 13 win over the Titans.

It was Rogers' first NFL game and he failed to record a catch or target. He did draw a roughly 30-yard pass interference flag on Alterraun Verner. The good news for Rogers is that Darrius Heyward-Bey continues to be a monster liability, committing another brutal drop and slipping around the field against the Titans. If the Colts want to get their offense out of the mud, they'll have to look at giving Rogers more snaps at the expense of DHB. The talented rookie is a name to keep on watch lists and stash in deep Dynasty leagues.

Related: Darrius Heyward-Bey

Source: Kevin Bowen on Twitter
 
I have no horse in this race but how come people have to make fun of others because they like a player? No one is saying he is the next Jerry Rice. They just like the kids talent and want to talk about it. If you don't like him just skip over the topic and move on, or if you do comment and say I think the kid won't make it because he has too many other issues. For the people that like him stop getting so defensive when someone else doesn't like your stash.

 
I come to FFG for one reason. To read contributors' hunches, longshots, guesses on young players that MAY emerge and be productive sometime in the future. From there, I research and come to my own conclusions who might be worth a shot or not. I play in a Dynasty league with very deep rosters where you can't wait for someone to show a clear sign of potential , or you will be in WW bidding war. I think some people that play in redraft only or shallow Dynasty/keeper may not get that and choose to harass people throwing out their ideas on these types of players instead of just ignoring as several have mentioned. Either that or they just feel better putting people down. That's unfortunate. But to all those speculating on the next longshot, thanks and please keep them coming. I believe there are many coming to this site for those dice rolls.

 
I still trust lod01.

Hey, can you give an ETA of Rogers playing well? No pressure.
No one expects the breakout this year. It is likely that DHB will not be re-signed by the Colts. Maybe Rogers has a good off-season of work and the Colts let him compete for DHBs starting spot.

Also, Reggie Wayne tore his ACL at age 35. There is the chance his recovery does not happen fast enough and he is not healthy enough to contribute.

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I come to FFG for one reason. To read contributors' hunches, longshots, guesses on young players that MAY emerge and be productive sometime in the future. From there, I research and come to my own conclusions who might be worth a shot or not. I play in a Dynasty league with very deep rosters where you can't wait for someone to show a clear sign of potential , or you will be in WW bidding war. I think some people that play in redraft only or shallow Dynasty/keeper may not get that and choose to harass people throwing out their ideas on these types of players instead of just ignoring as several have mentioned. Either that or they just feel better putting people down. That's unfortunate. But to all those speculating on the next longshot, thanks and please keep them coming. I believe there are many coming to this site for those dice rolls.
Exactly. The Shark Pool is being peed in more and more often with name calling and tough guys with keyboards. Sifting through the mud to find useful posts is becoming increasingly more difficult. Thank you to those that do contribute positively as there is still a lot of great posters here.

 
I still trust lod01.

Hey, can you give an ETA of Rogers playing well? No pressure.
You are wise.

In due time. Coaching staff has already said he is coming along and done everything they have asked. Ya gotta realize this guy is way behind after sitting all training camp in a craphole like Buffalo behind turds like Stevie Johnson (great job this week btw, way to blow it).

 
I still trust lod01.

Hey, can you give an ETA of Rogers playing well? No pressure.
You are wise.

In due time. Coaching staff has already said he is coming along and done everything they have asked. Ya gotta realize this guy is way behind after sitting all training camp in a craphole like Buffalo behind turds like Stevie Johnson (great job this week btw, way to blow it).
Yeah. I'm not even looking at this year, but it would be pretty exciting to see a preview late in the year. I think that could happen. Like you said, he hasn't even had the benefit of being on the same team for a year yet.

 
I come to FFG for one reason. To read contributors' hunches, longshots, guesses on young players that MAY emerge and be productive sometime in the future. From there, I research and come to my own conclusions who might be worth a shot or not. I play in a Dynasty league with very deep rosters where you can't wait for someone to show a clear sign of potential , or you will be in WW bidding war. I think some people that play in redraft only or shallow Dynasty/keeper may not get that and choose to harass people throwing out their ideas on these types of players instead of just ignoring as several have mentioned. Either that or they just feel better putting people down. That's unfortunate. But to all those speculating on the next longshot, thanks and please keep them coming. I believe there are many coming to this site for those dice rolls.
:goodposting:
 
I come to FFG for one reason. To read contributors' hunches, longshots, guesses on young players that MAY emerge and be productive sometime in the future. From there, I research and come to my own conclusions who might be worth a shot or not. I play in a Dynasty league with very deep rosters where you can't wait for someone to show a clear sign of potential , or you will be in WW bidding war. I think some people that play in redraft only or shallow Dynasty/keeper may not get that and choose to harass people throwing out their ideas on these types of players instead of just ignoring as several have mentioned. Either that or they just feel better putting people down. That's unfortunate. But to all those speculating on the next longshot, thanks and please keep them coming. I believe there are many coming to this site for those dice rolls.
I think this is right, and I think even most of us who maybe aren't as high on him, even long term, acknowledge that he's worth an end of bench flier in a deep dynasty league. Sure, why not? But judging by some of the posts in here, some people were expecting him to start to make a redraft impact by now, visibly frustrated or incredulous when he's inactive after Whalen was waived, or while DHB is still stinking up the joint. People are acting like it's a foregone conclusion that as soon as he's getting meaningful playing time, he'll be a difference maker. I know we all want to be ahead of the curve with the next Josh Gordon or Dez, but he's likely still a long, long away from doing anything in this league, if he ever does. As long as people have low expectations then I think he's a decent stash.

If he shows something before the end of the year, great, but the chances aren't high and there's nothing really to add to this thread until he at least catches a couple of passes in a real game. Until then, he's all myth and "upside". At least he played a few snaps this week, so I guess that is progress.

 
temper the excitement.
I'll never understand why anyone feels the need to say this. If you're not interested in the player, move along. What does it matter to you that people want to see him play?
Yeah, jackasses, what he (valhallan) said. Move along. You don't know #### anyway. Clearly you 2 are too stupid to be in dynasty leagues.
I'd love to be in a dynasty league. A lot of the people I play with don't want to do dynasty. It sucks, I've got about 5 people. If anyone has room for next year, shoot me a message.

If you've read my posts, I've said he's a good dynasty prospect, but not much for redraft. I think he's a very attractive dynast prospect actually. I think it's hilarious some people think the second he steps onto the field he's going to be a super star. Again. If you read any of my postings in this thread, I've conceded that in 2-3 years he could be very good. I just don't see it this year. Maybe next year he's a wr3, after that who knows. He has the skill and body absolutely. Just mush for brains

 
I come to FFG for one reason. To read contributors' hunches, longshots, guesses on young players that MAY emerge and be productive sometime in the future. From there, I research and come to my own conclusions who might be worth a shot or not. I play in a Dynasty league with very deep rosters where you can't wait for someone to show a clear sign of potential , or you will be in WW bidding war. I think some people that play in redraft only or shallow Dynasty/keeper may not get that and choose to harass people throwing out their ideas on these types of players instead of just ignoring as several have mentioned. Either that or they just feel better putting people down. That's unfortunate. But to all those speculating on the next longshot, thanks and please keep them coming. I believe there are many coming to this site for those dice rolls.
I think this is right, and I think even most of us who maybe aren't as high on him, even long term, acknowledge that he's worth an end of bench flier in a deep dynasty league. Sure, why not? But judging by some of the posts in here, some people were expecting him to start to make a redraft impact by now, visibly frustrated or incredulous when he's inactive after Whalen was waived, or while DHB is still stinking up the joint. People are acting like it's a foregone conclusion that as soon as he's getting meaningful playing time, he'll be a difference maker. I know we all want to be ahead of the curve with the next Josh Gordon or Dez, but he's likely still a long, long away from doing anything in this league, if he ever does. As long as people have low expectations then I think he's a decent stash.

If he shows something before the end of the year, great, but the chances aren't high and there's nothing really to add to this thread until he at least catches a couple of passes in a real game. Until then, he's all myth and "upside". At least he played a few snaps this week, so I guess that is progress.
I completely agree. People think I'm here for the "gotcha" moment, but really I interested in this guys long term appeal and find it kind of obnoxious that people expect him to carry them through their fantasy playoffs, vent when he's not active.

If this is truly a dynasty thread, treat it as such. Track his performance as he develops this year and discuss his future. Not his present.

Time will tell with this guy. He's intriguing and he could very well be amazing some day. I come here to get one step ahead of the next too, but I look at a lot of these threads as, "maybe next year" since I'm not in a dynasty league. That's all

 
amnesiac said:
I come to FFG for one reason. To read contributors' hunches, longshots, guesses on young players that MAY emerge and be productive sometime in the future. From there, I research and come to my own conclusions who might be worth a shot or not. I play in a Dynasty league with very deep rosters where you can't wait for someone to show a clear sign of potential , or you will be in WW bidding war. I think some people that play in redraft only or shallow Dynasty/keeper may not get that and choose to harass people throwing out their ideas on these types of players instead of just ignoring as several have mentioned. Either that or they just feel better putting people down. That's unfortunate. But to all those speculating on the next longshot, thanks and please keep them coming. I believe there are many coming to this site for those dice rolls.
:goodposting:
I'll 2nd that.

 
I turned down offers for Rogers all year, in several leagues, and it was difficult to say the least, but I think I'll be glad in the end I didn't trade him.
Check out the results of the poll in that article with nearly 1000 voters:

Who would you rather see on the field on Sunday?
  • Darrius Heyward-Bey 1.4%
  • Da'Rick Rogers 98.6%
  • Total votes: 933
 
I'll add Rogers only when this gets to 100 pages!

In all seriousness, that bleacher report was very promising.

I'll be drafting this guy next year. For this season, I'll pass.

 
Hopefully the coaching staff has punished the rest of the team long enough by trotting out Drops His Balls.

 
(KFFL) Signs are pointing toward Indianapolis Colts WR Da'Rick Rogers moving ahead of WR DHB on the team's depth chart at wide receiver. Rogers made his debut with the team in Week 13 and played in 13 offensive plays. "We've got four guys on the 53-man roster right now at the wide receiver position and we've got to do a great job of playing to their strengths," head coach Chuck Pagano said. "We're going to need them all." Heyward-Bey has been targeted 26 times in the last five games but has just nine catches for 96 yards.

 
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I turned down offers for Rogers all year, in several leagues, and it was difficult to say the least, but I think I'll be glad in the end I didn't trade him.
Check out the results of the poll in that article with nearly 1000 voters:Who would you rather see on the field on Sunday?

  • Darrius Heyward-Bey 1.4%
  • Da'Rick Rogers 98.6%
  • Total votes: 933
Yeah, but keep in mind that this is a Da'Rick-supporter article. DHB-supporters aren't going to be reading this or voting on the poll.

Plus, I think any Colts fan is just wanting to see ANYONE on the field other than DHB. We really can't expect much from Da'Rick...he'll have his mistakes, hopefully without too many drops...but seeing how the coaching staff proceeds with him in subsequent games after he makes his expected rookie mistakes will tell us how they view him going forward. Are they throwing Da'Rick in there because they're sick of DHB and want to teach him a lesson, or because they really believe in Da'Rick's talent and are ready to give him a real shot? I think we'll have the answer to that question by the time the playoffs roll around.

 
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I turned down offers for Rogers all year, in several leagues, and it was difficult to say the least, but I think I'll be glad in the end I didn't trade him.
Check out the results of the poll in that article with nearly 1000 voters:Who would you rather see on the field on Sunday?

  • Darrius Heyward-Bey 1.4%
  • Da'Rick Rogers 98.6%
  • Total votes: 933
Yeah, but keep in mind that this is a Da'Rick-supporter article. DHB-supporters aren't going to be reading this or voting on the poll.

Plus, I think any Colts fan is just wanting to see ANYONE on the field other than DHB. We really can't expect much from Da'Rick...he'll have his mistakes, hopefully without too many drops...but seeing how the coaching staff proceeds with him in subsequent games after he makes his expected rookie mistakes will tell us how they view him going forward. Are they throwing Da'Rick in there because they're sick of DHB and want to teach him a lesson, or because they really believe in Da'Rick's talent and are ready to give him a real shot? I think we'll have the answer to that question by the time the playoffs roll around.
I think it lies somewhere in between. Or Both. Unleash Luck for crissake. He makes the players around him better. I will be glued to the set watching Rogers this week, won't be upset if his coming out party is vs the hometown bengals.

 
Had a target early in the game ......3rd and 3 and Luck went to him on agoroute. Had separation but pacman got a hand in an underthrownball.

Firstcatch, onaslant.....underthrown ball. Went low to get it.

 

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