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Which Chiefs' WR is going to have the best numbers this year? (1 Viewer)

Which Kansas City Wide Receiver will finish the highest in FF in 2023?

  • Kadaruis Toney

  • Marquez Valdes-Scantling

  • Skyy Moore

  • Justin Watson

  • Rashee Rice

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Toney and Moore taking the lead so far, both of them are pretty late picks in redraft, we're talking 8th-10t Rd range and perhaps later, cheap investment to take both and then cut whichever one doesn't work out?

Someone has to get 1,000 yds and 6-7 TDs in this offense.
Could Rice have something like 500/8TDs, he has the size they've been missing around the goal line, great camp but Rookie WRs struggle in Reid's offense.
 
The ceiling on Toney is so high it has to be him for me. I don't see anybody else with that type of ceiling. Now what percentage chance does he have to hit that ceiling? I have no idea but I am willing to take that chance at his cost every time.
 
people seem to be fading MVS when he is most likely the WR2....(when Toney is healthy)....I may be the biggest KC fan on this board but I have a hard time drafting any of them.....Toney has the ability to be a fantasy WR3....but I don't say that with much confidence

bottom line for me.....I know people WANT to get a piece of the KC pie....but their depth chart is so fluid and you never know who is going to separate themselves or even if they will separate themselves.....I feel like Toney (when healthy), MVS, Moore will get first crack....but Watson, Rice, Ross, James may all have their moments.....but the rub is....when are you ever gonna really feel confident putting one of these guys in your weekly starting lineup over other WR3 type options on your roster that have more defined roles on their team.....

and they may not be able to have them all on the 53.....some talent may be stashed on practice squad....

TBH....MVS may see the most consistent PT....yet is he consistently startable (except during large bye weeks)...?.....I feel like if you are having to plug almost any of these guys in as a starter....your team might be in trouble.....

KC has like an embarrassment of riches....except that they aren't really riches....they are all pretty solid....I don't think the KC WR room is the place to try and find your SOD or homerun....I think the wealth will truly be spread around so much it makes none of them fantasy startable except in a dire situation....and if you happen to hit on one of them any particular week....I think it makes you extremely lucky....not the smartest guy in the room...

with that said Rice has looked good....and may be given first chance to emerge if based on nothing more than draft capital it took to get him....

heck even Smith Marsette has looked good...
 
TripItUp said:
MVS is my vote...he's expected to be on the field the most.

What is the FFA smoking here?
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No confidence in that guy whatsoever
Y1 w/HoF QB...38/580/2TD
Y2 w/HoF QB...26/450/2TD
Y3 w/HoF QB...33/690/6 TD, this was some improvement but in 2 seasons since, he hasn't passed that yardage total.
Y4 w/HoF QB...26.430/3TD, lot of folks drafted him reasonably high and even with injuries, he was a bust
Y5 w/A New HoF QB...42/687/2TD, 81 targets vs the 63 he had in Year 3 to hit close tot he same number.

What makes you think Mahomes and the Chiefs have a lot of confidence in him?
They keep drafting WRs that are expected to make noise and traded for Toney last season as well.
It doesn't seem as obvious to many of us as it appears for you.
 
Chaka said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Someone has to get 1,000 yds and 6-7 TDs in this offense.
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Yeah, Kelce.

No WR had 1,000 or even 5 TDs last year.
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I'm with you. I'd bet good money none of these guys eclipses 1,000 yards and if one of them does, then you are getting hella value at their current ADP.


Toney is my pick to lead them in receiving. Want to pick Sky Moore but the guy only caught 22 passes last year. I suppose it's possible he turns into some kind of reception machine but I didn't see anything from him last year to suggest that possibility.
 
Such a crap shoot, and none particularly excites me. Now, if one does become the go-to guy, that could be huge. But I'll believe it when I see it. I went with Skyy Moore.
 
I'll say Skyy Moore, but most likely none of them are even trustable as a WR3.

While it could in theory be MVS, he's the definition of an albatross. He isn't a good player, he's proven it time and again, and even if he is the #1, he's not worth owning, because he'll never be worthy of trusting enough to start. He's a desperation bye week/injury flier in the best of times.
 
Moore seems the obvious atm. Toney already hurt, mvs is a great burner but not much good at anything else, and rice is young and kinda like moore last year. i think Moore has a great chance to be the top slot wr for the chiefs and can play other spots as well. basically like juju last year. think he can be on the field most of the time while the other wrs are rotated in and out. all camp reports have been glowing as well
 
packdog said:
Moore seems the obvious atm. Toney already hurt, mvs is a great burner but not much good at anything else, and rice is young and kinda like moore last year. i think Moore has a great chance to be the top slot wr for the chiefs and can play other spots as well. basically like juju last year. think he can be on the field most of the time while the other wrs are rotated in and out. all camp reports have been glowing as well
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Good to know about the camp reports
 
travdogg said:
Bozeman Bruiser said:
I'll go with the wildcard and say Ritchie James.
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He'd be my 3rd choice, and I'm very surprised to see Justin Watson listed instead of him.
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the team really likes Watson and Watson says he turned down other options and supposedly more money to stay in KC because he loves it and says it was about winning more then the $$$$$.....there may actually be a few of those type of guys out there...
 
Richie James actually scored more 0.5 ppr points last year than any current Chiefs' WR...

I vote there's a better chance they all finish in the ballpark of 40/425/4 than any one is a reliable play.
 
Man that's tough. I voted Rice just because he's new and we haven't seen him yet. But the other question is will any of them perform well enough to be valuable for redraft non-best ball leagues? I am not sure.
 
I’ll go with Rice. Toney is arguably the most talented, but he’s starting to appear to be another Uber talented player that never has the opportunity to pull it all together.
 
Toney is the one worth chasing because if any of them can be a star and demand being the no. 2 option behind Kelce, its him.

Toney has the tools to dominate like Hill in that offense. The other guys could be ok dependable flex options if things break right, but MVS, Moore or even Rice are unlikely to be anything but boom/bust guys. May as well swing for the fences.

ETA: I don’t want to downplay Hill’s talent. He’s much better than Toney. My point is Toney can at least fill that role, which the others can not, imo.
 
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Dr. Octopus said:
Toney is the one worth chasing because if any of them can be a star and demand being the no. 2 option behind Kelce, its him.

Toney has the tools to dominate like Hill in that offense. The other guys could be ok dependable flex options if things break right, but MVS, Moore or even Rice are unlikely to be anything but boom/bust guys. May as well swing for the fences.
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As with the Eagles' running backs, I'm not spending a high pick on any of these people -- but there's a chance one of them becomes a league winner.
 
Dr. Octopus said:
Toney is the one worth chasing because if any of them can be a star and demand being the no. 2 option behind Kelce, its him.

Toney has the tools to dominate like Hill in that offense. The other guys could be ok dependable flex options if things break right, but MVS, Moore or even Rice are unlikely to be anything but boom/bust guys. May as well swing for the fences.

ETA: I don’t want to downplay Hill’s talent. He’s much better than Toney. My point is Toney can at least fill that role, which the others can not, imo.
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Exactly this. Toney is on the cheap side too. It's worth the shot. The upside is too high.
 
Toney is the only one that could be a league winner.
Moore is the safest and has the best chance to be bench depth or a low end flex like Juju last year.
MVS is the best ball play because he is going to have 3 big weeks that will help you win weeks. Problem is he going to have half his season long production in those 3 weeks and will be almost useless the rest of the time.

Most receivers have a difficult time learning Reid's system as rookies/first year guys in the system. So the rest of these guys should be on your watch list for later in the year in case they learn fast.
 
Skyy Moore and it won't be close. Not that he's going to be Jefferson or Hill or Chase,but his numbers will be 20% better than the next wide receiver in that offense.
 
Toney hasn’t done anything to be held so highly regarded. Talent means nothing if you can’t stay on the field. Toney’s chance to have supplant himself as the top WR on the team - not including Kelce - when he missed training camp due to injury. That was precious time to get acclimated to the offense and build a strong rapport with Mahomes. Any players at the WR position not named Skyy Moore or MVS are going undrafted in a ton of leagues. Since Hill’s departure, Mahomes is targeting whatever receiver is open on any given play - again, not named Kelce - so you really could grab anyone and hope for the best. Remember, Robinson, Pringle, and Hardman were all inconsistent, so don’t get your hopes up. Just pick one and see what happens.
 
Mike Clay offers this up as an answer . . .

Moore 57-744-6
MVS 36-665-5
Toney 38-458-4
Rice 32-404-4
Ross 19-244-2
Watson 7-98-1
James 4-42-0
 
Dr. Octopus said:
Anarchy99 said:
Mike Clay offers this up as an answer . . .

Moore 57-744-6
MVS 36-665-5
Toney 38-458-4
Rice 32-404-4
Ross 19-244-2
Watson 7-98-1
James 4-42-0
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Crystal clear
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One of my pet peeves back in the day when I had to keep updated rankings was the non-committal approach to developing rankings and projections for teams with cloudy situations. By that I mean, most teams aren't going to roster and play 7 WR unless multiple guys get hurt. The majority of the time, teams will end up with a WR1, WR2, and WR3 with all the other guys mostly getting table scraps. IMO, the easy way out is to discount all of them, take the approach that the situation is unclear, and essentially avoid making a stand on that situation for ranking purposes. I would much rather the fantasy writers picked the guy that they felt was going to emerge, select the two other primary targets, and then allocate a smaller workload to who they think will be depth guys and bench warmers. I didn't even care if their breakdown ended up being right . . . I just wanted people to pick one or two guys that they felt could be fantasy relevant. Just my two cents.
 
Anarchy99 said:
Dr. Octopus said:
Anarchy99 said:
Mike Clay offers this up as an answer . . .

Moore 57-744-6
MVS 36-665-5
Toney 38-458-4
Rice 32-404-4
Ross 19-244-2
Watson 7-98-1
James 4-42-0
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Crystal clear
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One of my pet peeves back in the day when I had to keep updated rankings was the non-committal approach to developing rankings and projections for teams with cloudy situations. By that I mean, most teams aren't going to roster and play 7 WR unless multiple guys get hurt. The majority of the time, teams will end up with a WR1, WR2, and WR3 with all the other guys mostly getting table scraps. IMO, the easy way out is to discount all of them, take the approach that the situation is unclear, and essentially avoid making a stand on that situation for ranking purposes. I would much rather the fantasy writers picked the guy that they felt was going to emerge, select the two other primary targets, and then allocate a smaller workload to who they think will be depth guys and bench warmers. I didn't even care if their breakdown ended up being right . . . I just wanted people to pick one or two guys that they felt could be fantasy relevant. Just my two cents.
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Sure - there’s serious hedging in those projections, although in fairness that’s how it played out last season mostly.
 
Lets break this down in terms of what is vs what can be.

What is:

MVS is likely a WR4 or 5 on your team that you will start hoping to get some TD equity on the weeks you do so. Otherwise he will be the guy who sucks when you start him and blows up on your bench.
Kelce is still the man there, and McKinnon could end up being the #2 guy in targets on that team

What can be:

Moore seems to be the play to have the best "Breakout" possibility followed by James then Ross then Watson.

Toney is the guy that you will pick for the one or two weeks he is healthy bc he will explode, but you will be afraid to drop him or he will be the drop/add carousel guy who could win you a championship if you held him all through or picked him up when the guy who did draft him finally got fed up and dropped him
 
They all seem to be losing lottery tickets right now

Rashee Rice 3/32 last night and that was the high water mark. He has seen a steady diet of 5-7 targets the last 3 weeks
But he seems like 10 yds a catch guy which is fine for PPR if he gets volume but Rice doesn't, not yet anyways.

What a waste of roster space, Skyy Moore?
 
Going out on a limb here... Justin Watson ... It appears I am not alone (3 votes)
He is not getting the snaps or looks yet, but the WR on the field have been a big disappointment and he has shown reliability.
I see things potentially changing into his favor.
 
I want it to be Justyn Ross, but I feel like by the end of the season it will be Rashee Rice. It's just going to be a bumpy road to get there. You're playing Russian roulette with the Chiefs WR's each week in fantasy.
 
How's this working out?

WR target distribution through 4 games (snap %):
Rice 19 (36.9%)
Moore 15 (62.7%)
Toney 13 (19.4%)
Watson 13 (44.4%)
MVS 9 (62.7%)
James 3 (9.32%)
Ross 2 (17.2%)
 
Chaka said:
How's this working out?

WR target distribution through 4 games (snap %):
Rice 19 (36.9%)
Moore 15 (62.7%)
Toney 13 (19.4%)
Watson 13 (44.4%)
MVS 9 (62.7%)
James 3 (9.32%)
Ross 2 (17.2%)
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Rice had 2 targets Week 1 and at halftime last night he had 2 targets, no catches.
They don't prioritize him, he doesn't start but he seems to find his way on to the field.
I think Rice by the middle of the year, home stretch, might become a bigger part of the offense but at 10 yds a catch, hard to project more than 40-50 yds a week for him.

Also think the Jets are a tough defense and tough to throw on
 
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Ministry of Pain said:
Chaka said:
How's this working out?

WR target distribution through 4 games (snap %):
Rice 19 (36.9%)
Moore 15 (62.7%)
Toney 13 (19.4%)
Watson 13 (44.4%)
MVS 9 (62.7%)
James 3 (9.32%)
Ross 2 (17.2%)
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Rice had 2 targets Week 1 and at halftime last night he had 2 targets, no catches.
They don't prioritize him, he doesn't start but he seems to find his way on to the field.
I think Rice by the middle of the year, home stretch, might become a bigger part of the offense but at 10 yds a catch, hard to project more than 40-50 yds a week for him.

Also think the Jets are a tough defense and tough to throw on
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3-5 targets to each guy per week with limited weekly upside only if you choose the one (of seven) who is lucky enough to catch a TD that week.

Zero fantasy value.
 
Chaka said:
How's this working out?

WR target distribution through 4 games (snap %):
Rice 19 (36.9%)
Moore 15 (62.7%)
Toney 13 (19.4%)
Watson 13 (44.4%)
MVS 9 (62.7%)
James 3 (9.32%)
Ross 2 (17.2%)
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I'm not too interested in the redraft strategy to Just Get Some Chiefs, but this data gives me some dynasty thoughts:

I don't care about snap share, their leading receiver is a rookie? Rice leads the WR in targets, but only playing 37%? That's an arrow pointing up. Puka Nacua is stealing this guy's headlines.

Skyy Moore looking like JAG, I have him and will sell the first big game he has, because he was one of those guys everyone loved coming out of college, and then went to the Chiefs. Some sucker will still fall for this.

Toney, whatever. Possible he puts it together, and suddenly stops getting injured (dood Fred Taylor), but he'll probably get into a rap beef with Lil Ice Spice or someone.

Justyn Ross is in year 2, and cannot beat out Richie James. I thought it was a clever stash, but he might be on the chopping block.
 
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