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Which of the following issues is Biden's greatest failure to date? (1 Viewer)
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knowledge dropper
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It takes a lot of bumbling to be the worst President in history after one year
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/02/poll-half-voters-think-biden-one-worst-presidents-ever/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/02/poll-half-voters-think-biden-one-worst-presidents-ever/
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Afghanistan was always going to be a mess but they crapped the bed in the execution.
Inflation/Crime/Immigration- there’s not much he could really do in these areas.
I voted the Pandemic. We are still having 1-2k people die daily. Yes, it sucks for Trump and Biden that they happened to be POTUS when a global pandemic hit but that possibility is what you sign up for and both have done a horrible job, IMO.
Inflation/Crime/Immigration- there’s not much he could really do in these areas.
I voted the Pandemic. We are still having 1-2k people die daily. Yes, it sucks for Trump and Biden that they happened to be POTUS when a global pandemic hit but that possibility is what you sign up for and both have done a horrible job, IMO.
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greenmountaingoat
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In my mind it's Afghanistan.
Maybe it's because I've not dug into the immigration situation which feels like a partisan slap fight from a distance. Two of my grandparents were immigrants so my instinct is to come from a more tolerant view but probably a naïve view that warrants further probing.
I'm genuinely surprised by conservatives pointing to the handling of the pandemic. I'm reading, keeping an open mind.
Maybe it's because I've not dug into the immigration situation which feels like a partisan slap fight from a distance. Two of my grandparents were immigrants so my instinct is to come from a more tolerant view but probably a naïve view that warrants further probing.
I'm genuinely surprised by conservatives pointing to the handling of the pandemic. I'm reading, keeping an open mind.
Gopher State
Footballguy
Biden will be remembered in history for his failure in handling Covid-19. He had all the tools to control it, but failed to get the job done.
Sabertooth
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Summer Wheat
Footballguy
Biden has been a lame duck since election day. Dude is not going to run again at 83, looks older than dirt right now.
Dr_Zaius
Footballguy
Voted immigration, as unlike some other problems like elevated crime, Biden has a lot of control over it. Afghanistan was tempting as the execution was pretty amateur, but at least we're out and it was a hard problem. His obviously undeliverable promises on Covid were annoying at the time, but the Omicron surge was inevitable. Inflation is a fairly bipartisan affair, as we dropped money from the sky during Trump's term as well, although it is pretty crazy that the administration still wants to ramp up spending.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Afghanistan and it is not close. Exiting was always going to be a mess, but it was always the right thing to do anyway. That those prior wouldn't at least in part because of that known mess is inexcusable. That though...pure incompetence.
Most everything else on the red team wish hit list are not Biden problems though. They're partisan American problems. Pointing the finger when not in charge and explaining it away and ignoring it when they are. Immigration, crime, spending, personal responsibility, the list goes on...none of these problems will be fixed with the alternative in charge. Until we change then it's unreasonable to expect that from our representatives - red or blue. They're simply representing us
Most everything else on the red team wish hit list are not Biden problems though. They're partisan American problems. Pointing the finger when not in charge and explaining it away and ignoring it when they are. Immigration, crime, spending, personal responsibility, the list goes on...none of these problems will be fixed with the alternative in charge. Until we change then it's unreasonable to expect that from our representatives - red or blue. They're simply representing us
sho nuff
Footballguy
Im with you on some of this. Though, I swap immigration and Pandemic.
IMO...there is little more he could do about the pandemic. Throw some money out there...push as hard as he can for people to get vaccinated. People seem to have made their choice on this and refuse to change themselves. No POTUS can make people do better at this point.
Immigration...I think they made major errors in execution of reversing Trump's policies ripping the bandaid off. And they have not seemed to address the issues created and obstacles to legal immigration as well as the backlog of those awaiting trials. We need real points of entry...we need more judges...we seem to do nothing about it either way either closing things off or opening too much. The problem isn't just going to go away if you put up a stop sign nor more than it will with a yellow light allowing flow in.
Ramblin Wreck
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No one is making you participate in this threaddkp993 said:
dkp993
Footballguy
Who claimed that? I am making an observation and stating my opinion. That’s still allowed here right?
Gopher State
Footballguy
MAC_32
Footballguy
Covid - the admin's lack of preparedness for the possibility of delta and omicron was laughably stupid. Decision making related to testing too. And vaccine mandates were never a good idea in this environment. Big picture, I think those items represent < 1% of our covid problem though. The 2021 covid problem that is continuing today is driven by the unvaccinated. He could make 10 more dumb decisions about covid policy and it wouldn't move the needle on where our covid problem resides.
Immigration - agreed, which is why this is not a Biden nor Trump problem. It's a Washington problem. Any criticism from the current opposition is white noise. Shut up about it or address the problem - there is no c.
sho nuff
Footballguy
I agree on testing...but just not sure how much any of that would have really affected the numbers. IMO...at this point people have made their decisions that they are going to live and whatever happens happens. People know the risks...but just don't seem to care. There is little Biden could have done to have changed any of it.
And yes...its not Biden or Trump...its a longstanding issue with the country. But Biden has done zero there to even try is my issue with it.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
You can do whatever you want but seems a little odd that some are interested in this discussion and the OP explained himself and you're still on your high horse telling him he did something else. Carry on.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I debate on this too. On one hand it would have helped keep more people at home if they knew they had it, on the other hand I agree with what another poster said the other day in that the people who are most likely to have used said tests are the ones who vaccinated, masked, and generally were more cautious about the virus.
MAC_32
Footballguy
If testing had some number greater than zero impact it wouldn't have been a material one. In the environment we created it became a necessity even though I didn't see the value in it. No testing did not impact my life and I would be surprised if I represent a minority. Once boosted and my kids getting the double vacc right or wrong I stopped caring about whether we got it or not. KISS - if any of us get sick then stay home til you're better. Doesn't matter if it's covid or some other virus the decision making is the same.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Responding to this separately, addressing immigration is a waste of time & energy. It'll take bipartisanship to resolve and the opposition party at the time of legislation in this environment needs to accept taking the L. There are few things I am sure of in this world, but I am sure the current republican congress is not willing to check both of those boxes. The color dynamic will change come November, but I expect my answer to be the same anyway. Hope I'm wrong.
sho nuff
Footballguy
It may be...
Out of everything...and if nothing else...a mix on immigration/covid. With all the vaccine/testing mandates, it seems we have failed at the border on that. should have easily been, you want to come in, even to wait on a court case and be detained...you get the shot, if not, Im sorry, you shall not pass.
The pullout of Afghanistan...how it was done, also major blunder in execution of the withdrawal.
TripItUp
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FairWarning
Footballguy
djmich
Footballguy
GoBirds
Footballguy
There are a lot of issues here that concern me including handling Afghanistan in the worst possible way but it has to be the pandemic. There is no excuse for running on this then exceeding the death toll of the previous year when there was no vaccine while he had one handed to him. Not only that but he had time to prepare Vs the complete unknown we face the year before. He’s proven to be the ultimate failure with poor performance across the board but this stands out as this is what he was elected for and the loss of life under his watch has been astounding. Just brutal.
SeniorVBDStudent
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Survey results feel about right...folks afraid of immigration and vaccination and folks ignorant of the geo-political factors that led to the US departure from Afghanistan.
I voted other - the failure to put Trump in prison.
I voted other - the failure to put Trump in prison.
GoBirds
Footballguy
Come one man, you can’t just put someone in prison because you obsess over them they have to break the law. Biden deserves prison well before Trump.
MAC_32
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