Why is everyone sleeping on Rashad Jennings? (1 Viewer)

[Chaka]

Agreed. I also don't have any numbers to back it up, but it also seemed like the majority of the time they gave him the ball he was being hit in the backfield or it was a run between the tackles on an offensive line that couldn't open a hole.

People that say Wilson is a failure are wrong because he hasn't had a decent chance yet. Maybe he'll still end up failing, I don't know. I saw enough in the end of 2012 to have some faith in him. It seems to me like 2013 was the perfect storm of unfortunate circumstances.

You can't judge a guy on limitied carries and on such a small sample size. If I remember correct, Eddie Lacy had negative rushing yards in one of the preseason games last year...

I am not criticizing his rushing ability I am trying to point out that based upon how he was used in 2013 any notion that he had buttoned up his pass protection problems are likely incorrect. I think it is pretty clear that the Giants had very little faith in his pass protection so he is still a big question mark in that area going into this season. I also think there is no way Wilson sees time as anything other than a COP/return guy if Coughlin doesn't trust him to block.

Coughlin also hasn't shown much faith in young running backs. In his career as a coach, he has started two rookie RBs in his James Stewart in 1995 (his first year coaching in the NFL) and Fred Taylor started 12 games in 1998 after James Stewart got hurt.

If Coughlin wouldn't allow an obviously dynamic rookie Fred Taylor to start in front of a ham'n'egger like James Stewart (3.8, 3.8 & 4.1 ypc in the two years prior to Fred joining the team) then I wouldn't hold out much hope for Williams getting a start without several injuries happening first.

 

[chickensoup]

In regards to the OP, what's undervalued? He's in a spot where his risk vs reward is appropriate IMO. Comparing him to similar guys in his ADP area, you see that.

Jennings is going in about the early 4th round (standard) or late 4th (PPR). Right around the Ryan Matthews/Bishop Sankey area of the draft. These guys are decent comps as far as workload concerns and/or injury concerns go. Good for RB2, have the ability to get to low end RB1 with a good, injury free year. I think that's fair for him.

I guess what a lot comes down to is this: If you are that confident in his abilities, would you take him as your RB2 at the 3.01 spot ahead of the likes of Martin, Stacy, Ellington, Bush or Spiller? If not he's already within the reasonable range of ADP. With most guys outside of the top 10ish, you can write a story to say "this guy will be a low end RB1, so he's undervalued" but that's not how you draft or should draft.

 

[cloppbeast]

Agreed. I also don't have any numbers to back it up, but it also seemed like the majority of the time they gave him the ball he was being hit in the backfield or it was a run between the tackles on an offensive line that couldn't open a hole.

People that say Wilson is a failure are wrong because he hasn't had a decent chance yet. Maybe he'll still end up failing, I don't know. I saw enough in the end of 2012 to have some faith in him. It seems to me like 2013 was the perfect storm of unfortunate circumstances.

You can't judge a guy on limitied carries and on such a small sample size. If I remember correct, Eddie Lacy had negative rushing yards in one of the preseason games last year...

Wilson has carried just over 100 times in his NFL career, not even remotely enough to make a proper conclusion. That fantasy football circles have already (perhaps mistakenly) determined a lack of ability exemplifies impatience. We see players all the time overcome rough starts to their careers, just like a horse slow out of the gate often wins the race. It takes a lot longer for an athlete to give up on himself than it does for the fantasy community.

Wilson's ability, though, may not matter if his health doesn't allow him to play. I have no expertise in medicine or orthopedics, so I can't say either way. He very well may not overcome his neck issue, but I still wouldn't count him out yet. He has the cheapest price of this running back group, despite also having the highest upside. How often does that happen?

If I get Jennings, I will no doubt get Wilson also. If the veteran goes down, I could easily see this going the way of a committee, if it isn't one already. Even if he doesn't have the feature back profile, I would think Wilson makes a better all around player than Williams. Early reports have already suggested the rookie has a long way to go in learning the subtleties of the position, so Wilson should get the passing down work by virtue of Williams sucking just a little more. I trust a three year veteran would have picked up more pass protection technique than a rookie.

 

[Koya]

Giants fan here. My take:

He could end up being a nice surprise. Or Andre Williams could bring his A game. Or Wilson could show more than we expect, and pull key carries away. Or it could be a total RBBC, week to week hot hand... and maybe through the season one guy emerges.

My guess? Unless someone really looks great in camp, he will be taken by some desperate team who went WR-WR or an early QB in the 4 or 5th round type guy.

MAJOR disclaimer - we will know SO much more in a month. Really need to see camp for a lot of these competitive / unclear position battles.

 

[cloppbeast]

In regards to the OP, what's undervalued? He's in a spot where his risk vs reward is appropriate IMO. Comparing him to similar guys in his ADP area, you see that.

Jennings is going in about the early 4th round (standard) or late 4th (PPR). Right around the Ryan Matthews/Bishop Sankey area of the draft. These guys are decent comps as far as workload concerns and/or injury concerns go. Good for RB2, have the ability to get to low end RB1 with a good, injury free year. I think that's fair for him.

I guess what a lot comes down to is this: If you are that confident in his abilities, would you take him as your RB2 at the 3.01 spot ahead of the likes of Martin, Stacy, Ellington, Bush or Spiller? If not he's already within the reasonable range of ADP. With most guys outside of the top 10ish, you can write a story to say "this guy will be a low end RB1, so he's undervalued" but that's not how you draft or should draft.

The 4th round seems fair for Jennings, but I think he offers more upside than Mathews and Sankey. I could easily see the Giants putting full faith in their new free agent, but neither would it surprise me to see a committee to implement their younger backs.

 

[12punch]

Agreed. I also don't have any numbers to back it up, but it also seemed like the majority of the time they gave him the ball he was being hit in the backfield or it was a run between the tackles on an offensive line that couldn't open a hole.

People that say Wilson is a failure are wrong because he hasn't had a decent chance yet. Maybe he'll still end up failing, I don't know. I saw enough in the end of 2012 to have some faith in him. It seems to me like 2013 was the perfect storm of unfortunate circumstances.

You can't judge a guy on limitied carries and on such a small sample size. If I remember correct, Eddie Lacy had negative rushing yards in one of the preseason games last year...

Wilson has carried just over 100 times in his NFL career, not even remotely enough to make a proper conclusion. That fantasy football circles have already (perhaps mistakenly) determined a lack of ability exemplifies impatience. We see players all the time overcome rough starts to their careers, just like a horse slow out of the gate often wins the race. It takes a lot longer for an athlete to give up on himself than it does for the fantasy community.

Wilson's ability, though, may not matter if his health doesn't allow him to play. I have no expertise in medicine or orthopedics, so I can't say either way. He very well may not overcome his neck issue, but I still wouldn't count him out yet. He has the cheapest price of this running back group, despite also having the highest upside. How often does that happen?

pretty much every year.

 

[Ilov80s]

I am guilty of writing Jennings off for no real reason. I guess he has a poor name value. His stats last year, when given the bulk of the carries, were really impressive. He averaged 4.5 and when given at least 15 carries, he put up RB1 numbers.

 

[Chaka]

In regards to the OP, what's undervalued? He's in a spot where his risk vs reward is appropriate IMO. Comparing him to similar guys in his ADP area, you see that.

Jennings is going in about the early 4th round (standard) or late 4th (PPR). Right around the Ryan Matthews/Bishop Sankey area of the draft. These guys are decent comps as far as workload concerns and/or injury concerns go. Good for RB2, have the ability to get to low end RB1 with a good, injury free year. I think that's fair for him.

I guess what a lot comes down to is this: If you are that confident in his abilities, would you take him as your RB2 at the 3.01 spot ahead of the likes of Martin, Stacy, Ellington, Bush or Spiller? If not he's already within the reasonable range of ADP. With most guys outside of the top 10ish, you can write a story to say "this guy will be a low end RB1, so he's undervalued" but that's not how you draft or should draft.

The 4th round seems fair for Jennings, but I think he offers more upside than Mathews and Sankey. I could easily see the Giants putting full faith in their new free agent, but neither would it surprise me to see a committee to implement their younger backs.

Really? Matthews is clearly more talented and everyone loves a rookie, particularly one who is in line to receive the majority of the workload at RB. I know Coughlin coached teams almost always score a lot of rushing TDs I still take both of those guys over Jennings.

 

[Chaka]

So we all know that the end of Michael Irvin's career was, in part, due to his spinal stenosis. Do we know of any other players with the condition who have continued to play with the condition after an injury?

 

[12punch]

Sharks never sleep

 

[cloppbeast]

I think Jennings offers more upside than Mathews and Sankey.

Really? Matthews is clearly more talented and everyone loves a rookie, particularly one who is in line to receive the majority of the workload at RB. I know Coughlin coached teams almost always score a lot of rushing TDs I still take both of those guys over Jennings.

We've already seen the role Mathews serves in San Diego. He carries the ball between the 20's, comes off in the red zone, and catches very few passes. I agree maybe Mathews has more talent, but let's not sell Jennings short. I don't equate his lack of production thus far with lack of ability. There's no shame playing back up to MJD. Jennings finally has an opportunity to serve as a 3 down bell cow, which seems very unlikely for Mathews.

As for Sankey, opinions on him range as much as any player. He does have the upside for opportunity, but I don't like his chances of playing feature back as much as Jennings. Plus, I consider Jennings the more talented player.

 

[Bri]

Coughlin will surely work them hard in camp and we'll know more.

Jennings impressed in the spring and I don't take that lightly but at the same time, he's gotta show TC he can handle his camp. He's pretty hard on RBs and has done a fantastic job preparing them for the regular season. For much of his career with NYG or Jax, each and every RB came in and got the job done. Wait til he gets through Camp Coughlin, we'll have a good idea. Coughlin usually loves some RB and isn't shy about it. Despite the uncertainty today, I'm very confident we'll know before the season.

 

[Skeletore Eh]

I think Jennings offers more upside than Mathews and Sankey.

Really? Matthews is clearly more talented and everyone loves a rookie, particularly one who is in line to receive the majority of the workload at RB. I know Coughlin coached teams almost always score a lot of rushing TDs I still take both of those guys over Jennings.

We've already seen the role Mathews serves in San Diego. He carries the ball between the 20's, comes off in the red zone, and catches very few passes.

Someone clearly didn't watch the 2nd half of the season

 

[12punch]

thanks, PFF

6th best in the league in getting past first contact -- just ahead of adrian peterson in 7th

 

[Anarchy99]

thanks, PFF

6th best in the league in getting past first contact -- just ahead of adrian peterson in 7th

Not sure how useful the info is when 7 of the guys on the list are not in the fantasy top 20 and one of them was ranked 63rd.

 

[12punch]

thanks, PFF

6th best in the league in getting past first contact -- just ahead of adrian peterson in 7th

Not sure how useful the info is when 7 of the guys on the list are not in the fantasy top 20 and one of them was ranked 63rd.

wouldn't you need to accumulate touches to get into a top 20 in total points?

isn't a top 20 total points list exactly the kind of thing you've questioned the relevance of in other posts?

why would you turn around and now use that kind of thing to make a point after disparaging it?

how about these stats from PFF, then....?:

jennings faced nickel on only 16% of his carries --- only 4 rb saw a smaller % against nickel (stacy, morris, mcfadden, gore)

meanwhile, in green bay, mcadoo got his guy, lacy, matched up against nickel on 56% of carries --- only 4 rb saw a higher % against nickel (bush, moreno, mccoy, woodhead)

 

[Mookie]

Chris Snee's retirement isn't going to help the Giants running game any.

 

[12punch]

Chris Snee's retirement isn't going to help the Giants running game any.

did he even play last year?

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Chris Snee's retirement isn't going to help the Giants running game any.

Really? I would think it helps to have all the offensive lineman playing with 2 healthy legs.

 

[steveski]

Chris Snee's retirement isn't going to help the Giants running game any.

did he even play last year?

3 games

 

[Skeletore Eh]

Rashad Jennings - RB - Giants
The NY Daily News' Ebenezer Samuel confirms Rashad Jennings remains the Giants' top running back despite David Wilson's medical clearance.
Jennings is a capable three-down performer who excels in areas where Wilson is deficient, like pass blocking and ball security. Wilson does give the G-Men more of a big-play threat, although Samuel anticipates the 2012 first-round pick sticking to "spurts and select situations." Wilson is likely to open the season as the change-of-pace complement to lead runner Jennings.


Source: Ebenezer Samuel on Twitter
Jul 21 - 1:23 PM

 

[Da Gildz]

Just heard Paul Dotino on WFAN who's as tapped into the Giants as any reporter/beat writer. He says the feeling on Wilson is, while its great he's been cleared to go, he'll mostly be involved in the passing game more then the rushing attack and that Jennings is clearly the feature back in this offense. Not really earth shattering info here but take that for what its worth. He's usually on point. Sounds like Wilson will fill that Sproles type role which is what I envisioned as well.

 

[monk]

Jennings just lost 5 plus carries a game starting game 1 and gradually increasing from there.

 

[Da Gildz]

Jennings just lost 5 plus carries a game starting game 1 and gradually increasing from there.

There are going to be a lot of disappointed Wilson owners this year, including this guy.

 

[monk]

Jennings just lost 5 plus carries a game starting game 1 and gradually increasing from there.

There are going to be a lot of disappointed Wilson owners this year, including this guy.

Don't own anyone ... Redraft after last preseason games. I will however pass on Jennings in the 4th and would gladly take Wilson in the 10th or 11th

How could any Wilson owners possibly be disappointed ... Their player, Keeper or Redraft. just went from, career possibly over to ... career no closer to over than Jennings or anyone else.

Curious how many touches per game you think the Giants are going to limit their former 1st round pick to?

By the way Wilson just turned 23 last month

I'm a Giant fan looking forward to the best RB rotation the Giants have had in years.

 

[Chaka]

Jennings just lost 5 plus carries a game starting game 1 and gradually increasing from there.

There are going to be a lot of disappointed Wilson owners this year, including this guy.

Don't own anyone ... Redraft after last preseason games. I will however pass on Jennings in the 4th and would gladly take Wilson in the 10th or 11th

How could any Wilson owners possibly be disappointed ... Their player, Keeper or Redraft. just went from, career possibly over to ... career no closer to over than Jennings or anyone else.

Curious how many touches per game you think the Giants are going to limit their former 1st round pick to?

By the way Wilson just turned 23 last month

I'm a Giant fan looking forward to the best RB rotation the Giants have had in years.

If Wilson is healthy after the last preseason game you won't be getting him in the 10th or 11th round.

 

[Da Gildz]

Jennings just lost 5 plus carries a game starting game 1 and gradually increasing from there.

There are going to be a lot of disappointed Wilson owners this year, including this guy.

Don't own anyone ... Redraft after last preseason games. I will however pass on Jennings in the 4th and would gladly take Wilson in the 10th or 11th

How could any Wilson owners possibly be disappointed ... Their player, Keeper or Redraft. just went from, career possibly over to ... career no closer to over than Jennings or anyone else.

Curious how many touches per game you think the Giants are going to limit their former 1st round pick to?

By the way Wilson just turned 23 last month

I'm a Giant fan looking forward to the best RB rotation the Giants have had in years.

I'm a Giant fan as well but a realistic one also. U think they're rushing this kid into any substantial role? He's coming off a major injury/no football for quite some time. He's still the same guy who couldn't pass block, how could he have worked on it all this time? He didn't. I do think he'll have a decent role carved out for him probably by midseason. And I'm not even mentioning his fumbling, that just doesn't disappear. He needs to work on that as well. If you think Coughlin will put up with that again, I have some real estate to sell you.

The Giants, in my view, and Dotino said the same, are probably better served having Wilson play that complimentary role, catch some screens, get him out in the open field and let his legs do the work.

 

[steveski]

Jennings just lost 5 plus carries a game starting game 1 and gradually increasing from there.

There are going to be a lot of disappointed Wilson owners this year, including this guy.

Don't own anyone ... Redraft after last preseason games. I will however pass on Jennings in the 4th and would gladly take Wilson in the 10th or 11th

How could any Wilson owners possibly be disappointed ... Their player, Keeper or Redraft. just went from, career possibly over to ... career no closer to over than Jennings or anyone else.

Curious how many touches per game you think the Giants are going to limit their former 1st round pick to?

By the way Wilson just turned 23 last month

I'm a Giant fan looking forward to the best RB rotation the Giants have had in years.

This is the part I don't think people understand. He was a 1st round pick 2 years ago. He showed promise at the end of his rookie year and then his 2nd year, the team was a complete disaster and he got injured. I know fantasy footballers are quick to pass judgement on a player in just a few games, but coaches and teams don't work that way. They drafted him because they saw something they liked. It wasn't just a blind shot in the dark.

I agree with the "reports" that he'll be a change of pace type guy to start the season. That's way better than what they did in 2013 with letting their starting RB walk and just throw him in there and hope for the best. But you'd have to be crazy to think that they aren't hoping and expecting Wilson to shoulder more of the load as the season goes on.

 

[12punch]

yeah, there were two teams that made trent richardson a first round pick.

 

[monk]

yeah, there were two teams that made trent richardson a first round pick.

I'm not writing him off yet either ... I would take a chance on him before Jennings in FF.

 

[Anarchy99]

yeah, there were two teams that made trent richardson a first round pick.

And there were two teams that felt MJD was a better RB option than Jennings.

 

[Da Gildz]

yeah, there were two teams that made trent richardson a first round pick.

And there were two teams that felt MJD was a better RB option than Jennings.

There were probably 25+ teams who thought MJD was better then 'name their starting rb here'. MJD in his prime = top 5 RB in NFL. Poor analogy.

I also would tend to side with the NYG brass over OAK. Did u even realize MJD got less guaranteed $ then Jennings? The Giants could have had MJD for less $ and still chose Jennings.

 

[JaxBill]

Meh. He's an average back who has never started more than 8 games in a season playing behind a mediocre at best line and possibly splitting time.

 

[12punch]

yeah, there were two teams that made trent richardson a first round pick.

And there were two teams that felt MJD was a better RB option than Jennings.

uh...yeah, mjd has been pretty good.

 

[Anarchy99]

yeah, there were two teams that made trent richardson a first round pick.

And there were two teams that felt MJD was a better RB option than Jennings.

uh...yeah, mjd has been pretty good.

No one said MJD in his prime wasn't good.

At the time Jennings left JAC, MJD was coming of a season where he only played 6 games. He game back to average 3.4 ypc.

Jennings moved on to OAK, who this year signed MJD with his 3.4 ypc but did not bring back Jennings. They also stuck with McFadden and his 3.3 ypc in 2013 over Jennings.

OAK has tons of cap room, they easily could have kept Jennings . . . yet they didn't. One would think they would have tried harder to bring back Jennings.

 

[Da Gildz]

Does Oakland make good personnel decisions? Ever? I wouldn't use them as your argument..

 

[12punch]

yeah, there were two teams that made trent richardson a first round pick.

And there were two teams that felt MJD was a better RB option than Jennings.

uh...yeah, mjd has been pretty good.

No one said MJD in his prime wasn't good.

At the time Jennings left JAC, MJD was coming of a season where he only played 6 games. He game back to average 3.4 ypc.

Jennings moved on to OAK, who this year signed MJD with his 3.4 ypc but did not bring back Jennings. They also stuck with McFadden and his 3.3 ypc in 2013 over Jennings.

OAK has tons of cap room, they easily could have kept Jennings . . . yet they didn't. One would think they would have tried harder to bring back Jennings.

loooool

I'm getting that bumpersticker --- What Would Oakland Do?

is this the same team that passed off randy moss for a bag of doughnuts?

I would like you to explain your convoluted train of thought where mjd ----- and, btw, I am not some closet mojo lover --- where mjd puts up about 500 total yards in 5 games at a 4.8 ypc clip in 2012, which follows his league leading 1600 yds on the ground in 2011, and you are apparently surprised they didn't outright cut him that offseason just to roll with jennings because he got ir'd

that's your knock on jennings?

I might've gotten lost in your hedge maze, but if your intention was to present me with a resume using the worst 2 franchises in the league as character references, it's going straight to the trash.

 

[Markus P Dub]

If I recall Wilson was the bees knees going into camp last summer and some analysts had him rated a mid 2nd round to the 3rd round where a lot of people took him. First game of the season he had what 10 carries for -30 yds and 3 lost fumbles in the first half and then broke his neck. Some #### like that. he sucks. mark it.

 

[monk]

If I recall Wilson was the bees knees going into camp last summer and some analysts had him rated a mid 2nd round to the 3rd round where a lot of people took him. First game of the season he had what 10 carries for -30 yds and 3 lost fumbles in the first half and then broke his neck. Some #### like that. he sucks. mark it.

No! You're the bees knees! Make no mistake about it ! You are the knees of a bee ...and I am not just saying that!

 

[Touchdown There]

Regardless of David Wilson's health, Jennings will be a wasted draft pick in fantasy. Way over drafted for a 29 year old jag imo.

If David Wilson stays healthy he will lose a lot of carries. If David Wilson breaks his neck I think the rookie has a shot w a new coordinator. All things being equal, I think the team gives carries to the rook so that is high risk, low reward in fantasy.

 

[steveski]

If I recall Wilson was the bees knees going into camp last summer and some analysts had him rated a mid 2nd round to the 3rd round where a lot of people took him. First game of the season he had what 10 carries for -30 yds and 3 lost fumbles in the first half and then broke his neck. Some #### like that. he sucks. mark it.

This is shtick, right?

 

[cloppbeast]

Regardless of David Wilson's health, Jennings will be a wasted draft pick in fantasy. Way over drafted for a 29 year old jag imo.

The Giants may not know what they're doing, but for what it's worth they clearly don't consider Jennings jag.

 

[Touchdown There]

Regardless of David Wilson's health, Jennings will be a wasted draft pick in fantasy. Way over drafted for a 29 year old jag imo.

The Giants may not know what they're doing, but for what it's worth they clearly don't consider Jennings jag.

The same argument could be made for any player on any team. Why would a team sign a player if they did not believe that player had special talent? Does not mean that player will actually turn out to be special. I have high confidence Jennings will not land as a RB2 by the end of the year, even if week 1 goes OK for him.

 

[monk]

Regardless of David Wilson's health, Jennings will be a wasted draft pick in fantasy. Way over drafted for a 29 year old jag imo.

The Giants may not know what they're doing, but for what it's worth they clearly don't consider Jennings jag.

The same argument could be made for any player on any team. Why would a team sign a player if they did not believe that player had special talent? Does not mean that player will actually turn out to be special. I have high confidence Jennings will not land as a RB2 by the end of the year, even if week 1 goes OK for him.

What a difference a day makes ... Just yesterday people were asking why the FF world was sleeping on Jennings. Later that day David Wilson is cleared to play and immediately starts making ankle breaking moves and jukes and Andre Williams starts getting getting goal line carries in practice. Now they are talking about a 3 RB rotation.

 

[monk]

Jennings just lost 5 plus carries a game starting game 1 and gradually increasing from there.

There are going to be a lot of disappointed Wilson owners this year, including this guy.

Who do you think are more disappointed at this moment Wilson owners or Jennings owners?

Which way do you think its trending ?

 

[Da Gildz]

Jennings just lost 5 plus carries a game starting game 1 and gradually increasing from there.

There are going to be a lot of disappointed Wilson owners this year, including this guy.

Who do you think are more disappointed at this moment Wilson owners or Jennings owners?

Which way do you think its trending ?

I'm not sure why you think a lot has changed in 1 day... It hasn't. The people in the 'know' who are closest to this team still are saying the same thing they've said the entire off season. Rashad Jennings will the FEATURE BACK. From Paul Dotino to Ralph Vacchiano, both say its Jennings with the other 2 sprinkled in. What backfield doesn't have complimentary players in it, outside of maybe 4-5 guys in the entire league.

Of course Andre Williams will be there in short yardage situations, who didn't realize that? That's all he does well. I still don't see them pulling Jennings inside the 5. He's 230 lbs, I think he handle those situations. And Wilson will be a complimentary player on this team, which is what everyone thought anyways.

I stand by my premise, there will be a lot of disappointed Wilson owners who for some reason think this is still the summer of 2013..

 

[Raiderfan32904]

This thread has changed a lot since Wilson got cleared. Looks like one guy against a mass of Wilson backers. Go the Wilson thread and the bandwagon is firing back up. Don't get me wrong, I like Jennings a lot in the 6th round. But I'll let you have him in the 4th as many times as you want to take him there.

 

[12punch]

Jennings just lost 5 plus carries a game starting game 1 and gradually increasing from there.

There are going to be a lot of disappointed Wilson owners this year, including this guy.

Who do you think are more disappointed at this moment Wilson owners or Jennings owners?

Which way do you think its trending ?

6 month rolling, or the 3 min since you fired up that bong?

 

[Da Gildz]

This thread has changed a lot since Wilson got cleared. Looks like one guy against a mass of Wilson backers. Go the Wilson thread and the bandwagon is firing back up. Don't get me wrong, I like Jennings a lot in the 6th round. But I'll let you have him in the 4th as many times as you want to take him there.

Well I realize this 'perception' of the Wilson cheerleaders is out there, and that drops him a round. So I wouldn't take him in the 4th going fwd, but I'd be very happy to see him in the 5th rd , no doubt. I don't see any reason why he cant match a Freddy Jax type year from 2013...And he was a high-end RB2 last yr

 

[monk]

Jennings just lost 5 plus carries a game starting game 1 and gradually increasing from there.

There are going to be a lot of disappointed Wilson owners this year, including this guy.

Who do you think are more disappointed at this moment Wilson owners or Jennings owners?

Which way do you think its trending ?

I'm not sure why you think a lot has changed in 1 day... It hasn't. The people in the 'know' who are closest to this team still are saying the same thing they've said the entire off season. Rashad Jennings will the FEATURE BACK. From Paul Dotino to Ralph Vacchiano, both say its Jennings with the other 2 sprinkled in. What backfield doesn't have complimentary players in it, outside of maybe 4-5 guys in the entire league.

Of course Andre Williams will be there in short yardage situations, who didn't realize that? That's all he does well. I still don't see them pulling Jennings inside the 5. He's 230 lbs, I think he handle those situations. And Wilson will be a complimentary player on this team, which is what everyone thought anyways.

I stand by my premise, there will be a lot of disappointed Wilson owners who for some reason think this is still the summer of 2013..

The guy who led the nation in rushing with over 2000 yards? That's a lot of short yardage situations.