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Now imagine if the catcaller was a handsome stud (aka Brad Pitt/George Cloony) Would it still be considered harassment?"Hello, miss, have a nice evening."
"STOP HARASSING ME YOU MISOGYNIST SHIITLORD"
Now imagine if the catcaller was a handsome stud (aka Brad Pitt/George Cloony) Would it still be considered harassment?"Hello, miss, have a nice evening."
"STOP HARASSING ME YOU MISOGYNIST SHIITLORD"
Exactly the same.Man I am surprised by the general attitude in this thread. I do think it is intimidating for a woman to be approached on the street like that.
Is it the end of the world for the "Hi's" and "Damn's"? No probably not. But multiply that times your whole life.
It's belittling. If a chick likes that kind of behavior she's probably the one with the problem.
You guys are probably the ones who think it's cool to call black people "brother" and are amazed when they don't like it. (PS they don't like it.)
They are teaming up with Vanilla Ice Goes Amish to purchase clothing for women who can't afford proper female attire.I want to know WTF their plan is to stop catcalling on the streets.![]()
How does donated money actually forward that plan?
See now your fee fees are hurt by something as innocuous as that. You're sitting on team thick skin here right?Exactly the same.Man I am surprised by the general attitude in this thread. I do think it is intimidating for a woman to be approached on the street like that.
Is it the end of the world for the "Hi's" and "Damn's"? No probably not. But multiply that times your whole life.
It's belittling. If a chick likes that kind of behavior she's probably the one with the problem.
You guys are probably the ones who think it's cool to call black people "brother" and are amazed when they don't like it. (PS they don't like it.)
Please tell me more about how people of other races and gender then you feel about other social interaction by using blanket statements.
It's hard, isn't it?Whether it's harassment is completely subjective. I'm an exceptionally good looking guy. Like really good looking. I have to walk through the gay section of my city on my way home at night. I sometimes get cat-called and I sometimes have a guy grab my penis and start stroking. I don't get offended.
After a few strokes, yes.It's hard, isn't it?Whether it's harassment is completely subjective. I'm an exceptionally good looking guy. Like really good looking. I have to walk through the gay section of my city on my way home at night. I sometimes get cat-called and I sometimes have a guy grab my penis and start stroking. I don't get offended.
I didn't watch the entire video, but I agree with this. A lot of what I saw didn't seem offensive to me. Silly to lump in the creepy line-crossers with guys who are saying "hi." I think we can find a happy medium here where woman aren't being harassed on the street and guys can say hello without being accused of harassment.Id say maybe five guys were being rude or harassing. How many thousands do you think she passed in 10 hours?
Weren't all the alleged cat callers just practicing free speech. Nobody touched or confronted her. Some of the dudes were creepy but I don't think anyone is saying that was acceptable too.Good point. Anyone who has issues here in America should go to a different country.I think she should try this in some other cities.
I bet she'd be pining for the safety and tranquility of good ole NYC after a 10 hour jaunt in some place like Islamabad.
#### free speech.
Exactly, the very fact that they posted so many "hey how you doing?" type of "cat calls" tells me they didn't have much to work with. I guarantee none of the "creeper" type of dudes made it onto the cutting room floor.I didn't watch the entire video, but I agree with this. A lot of what I saw didn't seem offensive to me. Silly to lump in the creepy line-crossers with guys who are saying "hi." I think we can find a happy medium here where woman aren't being harassed on the street and guys can say hello without being accused of harassment.Id say maybe five guys were being rude or harassing. How many thousands do you think she passed in 10 hours?
You want people doing that to your daughter?Exactly, the very fact that they posted so many "hey how you doing?" type of "cat calls" tells me they didn't have much to work with. I guarantee none of the "creeper" type of dudes made it onto the cutting room floor.I didn't watch the entire video, but I agree with this. A lot of what I saw didn't seem offensive to me. Silly to lump in the creepy line-crossers with guys who are saying "hi." I think we can find a happy medium here where woman aren't being harassed on the street and guys can say hello without being accused of harassment.Id say maybe five guys were being rude or harassing. How many thousands do you think she passed in 10 hours?
They know exactly what they are doing - making women feel threatened and telling them they are nothing but a piece of meat.Id say maybe five guys were being rude or harassing. How many thousands do you think she passed in 10 hours?
Rule 1: Be attractiveNow imagine if the catcaller was a handsome stud (aka Brad Pitt/George Cloony) Would it still be considered harassment?"Hello, miss, have a nice evening."
"STOP HARASSING ME YOU MISOGYNIST SHIITLORD"
If a man says hi to my daughter I'll end him.You want people doing that to your daughter?Exactly, the very fact that they posted so many "hey how you doing?" type of "cat calls" tells me they didn't have much to work with. I guarantee none of the "creeper" type of dudes made it onto the cutting room floor.I didn't watch the entire video, but I agree with this. A lot of what I saw didn't seem offensive to me. Silly to lump in the creepy line-crossers with guys who are saying "hi." I think we can find a happy medium here where woman aren't being harassed on the street and guys can say hello without being accused of harassment.Id say maybe five guys were being rude or harassing. How many thousands do you think she passed in 10 hours?
About half those guys probably ask all those other people that walk by for money. She should feel lucky.I'm going to guess those guys weren't being polite to:Many of the people were just being polite. This is a very good illustration of how offense cannot be given, it can only be taken. When you go out looking to be offended, you will be. If you go out looking for people smiling, you will find those too.
other guys
older women
less attractive women
So once we narrow it down to the subset of poeple they were being polite and friendly and complimentary toward, it looks a little less magnanimous.
That is a sad commentary. I was wondering if some of this was camera driven, guys playing to the camera that was filming her but clearly not. Add another reason to list of not living in NYC.This is why nearly every woman in NYC wears headphones when walking, even if they're not actually listening to anything.
You're doing it wrong.Just being polite![]()
I've walked around the streets of NYC for at least 10 hours and not one person has ever said "Damn baby how you doin?" to me.
Yes, because everybody on the internet is who they say they are."Most of these were a compliment. You say hi or thank you and keep moving"OK. Now what about the part about her coming off badly?In their opinion the majority of the men weren't being disrespectful.She came off bad from walking silently down the street?Somebody posted this on FB and the overwhelming majority of the replies were women saying how the majority of the men were NOT over the line and the girl in the vid came off bad.I saw a bunch of guys who were truly wondering how she was doing. She seems to be anti-social.![]()
"Girl please, that's not harassment ! The guy who walked beside her was close but I'm sure he did it cause he spoke and she didn't ".
"Eeeew, could she be less friendly?"
All from women.
You're a blizzard dude. I don't even know what the hell it is you're talking about.See now your fee fees are hurt by something as innocuous as that. You're sitting on team thick skin here right?Exactly the same.Please tell me more about how people of other races and gender then you feel about other social interaction by using blanket statements.Man I am surprised by the general attitude in this thread. I do think it is intimidating for a woman to be approached on the street like that.
Is it the end of the world for the "Hi's" and "Damn's"? No probably not. But multiply that times your whole life.
It's belittling. If a chick likes that kind of behavior she's probably the one with the problem.
You guys are probably the ones who think it's cool to call black people "brother" and are amazed when they don't like it. (PS they don't like it.)
These are real life women I know.Yes, because everybody on the internet is who they say they are."Most of these were a compliment. You say hi or thank you and keep moving""Girl please, that's not harassment ! The guy who walked beside her was close but I'm sure he did it cause he spoke and she didn't ".OK. Now what about the part about her coming off badly?In their opinion the majority of the men weren't being disrespectful.She came off bad from walking silently down the street?Somebody posted this on FB and the overwhelming majority of the replies were women saying how the majority of the men were NOT over the line and the girl in the vid came off bad.I saw a bunch of guys who were truly wondering how she was doing. She seems to be anti-social.![]()
"Eeeew, could she be less friendly?"
All from women.
You think these guys were trying to threaten the lady?They know exactly what they are doing - making women feel threatened and telling them they are nothing but a piece of meat.Id say maybe five guys were being rude or harassing. How many thousands do you think she passed in 10 hours?
Most of them are like forum member Otis?Pretty disappointed in the FFA right now. Not one comment on the (almost) common denominator of the cat callers?
Women have been brainwashed that this is behavior they should accept.These are real life women I know.Yes, because everybody on the internet is who they say they are."Most of these were a compliment. You say hi or thank you and keep moving""Girl please, that's not harassment ! The guy who walked beside her was close but I'm sure he did it cause he spoke and she didn't ".
"Eeeew, could she be less friendly?"
All from women.
LOFL. Yes and then get harassed because that guy thinks you actually want to talk to them.In their opinion the majority of the men weren't being disrespectful.She came off bad from walking silently down the street?Somebody posted this on FB and the overwhelming majority of the replies were women saying how the majority of the men were NOT over the line and the girl in the vid came off bad.I saw a bunch of guys who were truly wondering how she was doing. She seems to be anti-social.![]()
ETA- when someone says hello it's common courtesy to say hello back.
They know 100% that it makes women uncomfortable and threatened.You think these guys were trying to threaten the lady?They know exactly what they are doing - making women feel threatened and telling them they are nothing but a piece of meat.Id say maybe five guys were being rude or harassing. How many thousands do you think she passed in 10 hours?![]()
Its not always the actual words being said, and I imagine if you thought about it a little harder you could figure that out.Hilts said:Definitely a lot of creeps out there but some of those "cat calls" were guys saying "have a nice day". I don't think that should qualify as harassment.Have a nice evening is now considered harassment?
As a one off? No. But when you are bombarded by it yes, it feels that way. And you never know when the guy who just says hi to you turns into creepy 5 minute stalker guy. It puts the women on edge that they CONSTANTLY have to protect themselves from rapist and people trying to grab their asses.A lot of drama here over nothing. An average women can walk around and get hit on by a hundred guys. The one dude following her for a while was borderline harrassment, the other guys were just throwing out compliments and were fairly polite about it. This really constitutes harrassment?I'm going to go out on a limb and say their intentions were to have sex with her.Anyone, man or woman, who believes that the men in this video were just being friendly and well intentioned and complimentary is certainly entitled to that opinion.
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Do you not have a penis?
DamnI would be more impressed if she actually received 100 calls from cats.
Thank you very much. This guy gets it.Man I am surprised by the general attitude in this thread. I do think it is intimidating for a woman to be approached on the street like that.
Is it the end of the world for the "Hi's" and "Damn's"? No probably not. But multiply that times your whole life.
It's belittling. If a chick likes that kind of behavior she's probably the one with the problem.
You guys are probably the ones who think it's cool to call black people "brother" and are amazed when they don't like it. (PS they don't like it.)
I saw the opposite on my feed. My response is (and I never do this crap anyway) just don't comment on a woman's appearance, and don't even say hi unless you get a friendly glance. Women should not have to endure what this woman went through on this video, and let's face it, saying hi or good evening to a woman on the street doesn't do the man any good 99.9% of the time. So just stop, ignore women you don't know unless it's a social situation and you have a signal.Somebody posted this on FB and the overwhelming majority of the replies were women saying how the majority of the men were NOT over the line and the girl in the vid came off bad.I saw a bunch of guys who were truly wondering how she was doing. She seems to be anti-social.![]()
Wow an actual woman feels differently about this than a bunch of internet men? I for one am SHOCKED! Somebody mansplain it to her so she understands how she should feel.LOFL. Yes and then get harassed because that guy thinks you actually want to talk to them.In their opinion the majority of the men weren't being disrespectful.She came off bad from walking silently down the street?Somebody posted this on FB and the overwhelming majority of the replies were women saying how the majority of the men were NOT over the line and the girl in the vid came off bad.I saw a bunch of guys who were truly wondering how she was doing. She seems to be anti-social.![]()
ETA- when someone says hello it's common courtesy to say hello back.