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Woman gets 100 cat calls in 10 hours in NYC (1 Viewer)

Definitely a lot of creeps out there but some of those "cat calls" were guys saying "have a nice day". I don't think that should qualify as harassment.
Have a nice day does not. But again, if you walk past someone and don't reply, you never know when they take offense and start to yell at you because you are a #####. A female as to worry about both acknowledging and not acknowledging the behavior in fear that she "slighted" someone. And it happens, don't say it doesn't.

 
I saw a bunch of guys who were truly wondering how she was doing. She seems to be anti-social. :shrug:
Somebody posted this on FB and the overwhelming majority of the replies were women saying how the majority of the men were NOT over the line and the girl in the vid came off bad.
I saw the opposite on my feed. My response is (and I never do this crap anyway) just don't comment on a woman's appearance, and don't even say hi unless you get a friendly glance. Women should not have to endure what this woman went through on this video, and let's face it, saying hi or good evening to a woman on the street doesn't do the man any good 99.9% of the time. So just stop, ignore women you don't know unless it's a social situation and you have a signal.
This is awful. I get there are a lot of dooshes out there, but are we really turning into a society that just needs to ignore everyone else just to be polite.

 
I saw a bunch of guys who were truly wondering how she was doing. She seems to be anti-social. :shrug:
Somebody posted this on FB and the overwhelming majority of the replies were women saying how the majority of the men were NOT over the line and the girl in the vid came off bad.
She came off bad from walking silently down the street?
In their opinion the majority of the men weren't being disrespectful.

ETA- when someone says hello it's common courtesy to say hello back.
LOFL. Yes and then get harassed because that guy thinks you actually want to talk to them.
Wow an actual woman feels differently about this than a bunch of internet men? I for one am SHOCKED! Somebody mansplain it to her so she understands how she should feel.
Use small words, because you know, my brain is smaller than yours. I may not be able to comprehend what you say the first time.

 
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If she got 100 comments, how many people ignored her and left her alone? 10,000? Seem like an OK percentage to me.

 
Sexual Harassment

Different from sexual assault, sexual harassment is any unwanted sexual advance, comment, attention, gesture or behavior. Sexual harassment can be verbal, non-verbal or physical.
See this is why I am saying if you don't want the chance of being viewed as a creeper at least wait for welcoming eye contact.

 
Definitely a lot of creeps out there but some of those "cat calls" were guys saying "have a nice day". I don't think that should qualify as harassment.
Have a nice day does not. But again, if you walk past someone and don't reply, you never know when they take offense and start to yell at you because you are a #####. A female as to worry about both acknowledging and not acknowledging the behavior in fear that she "slighted" someone. And it happens, don't say it doesn't.
Yep my wife has gotten called ##### for ignoring people saying "hey you"

 
Sexual Harassment

Different from sexual assault, sexual harassment is any unwanted sexual advance, comment, attention, gesture or behavior. Sexual harassment can be verbal, non-verbal or physical.
See this is why I am saying if you don't want the chance of being viewed as a creeper at least wait for welcoming eye contact.
Looking at them to see if they are making eye contact can be sexual harassment.

 
I know it sounds innocent to all of us guys, but we don't know what it feels like to have people calling out to you or get that close to your personal space constantly. She should have stabbed that creeper.

For us to even come close to this feeling.

Imagine walking down the street and having dozens of gay dudes screaming out Hey handsome, Yo Yo DAM! or getting in your personal space for a few minutes.

I know, you would probably be flattered but christ after 5-10-20 years of the same crap you can't help but feel intimidated, scared, threatened or just plain annoyed.

 
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Sexual Harassment

Different from sexual assault, sexual harassment is any unwanted sexual advance, comment, attention, gesture or behavior. Sexual harassment can be verbal, non-verbal or physical.
See this is why I am saying if you don't want the chance of being viewed as a creeper at least wait for welcoming eye contact.
Looking at them to see if they are making eye contact can be sexual harassment.
My wife told me if a random woman makes eye contact with me, she's probably a prostitute. I'm rolling with that for now.
 
I saw a bunch of guys who were truly wondering how she was doing. She seems to be anti-social. :shrug:
Somebody posted this on FB and the overwhelming majority of the replies were women saying how the majority of the men were NOT over the line and the girl in the vid came off bad.
I saw the opposite on my feed. My response is (and I never do this crap anyway) just don't comment on a woman's appearance, and don't even say hi unless you get a friendly glance. Women should not have to endure what this woman went through on this video, and let's face it, saying hi or good evening to a woman on the street doesn't do the man any good 99.9% of the time. So just stop, ignore women you don't know unless it's a social situation and you have a signal.
This is awful. I get there are a lot of dooshes out there, but are we really turning into a society that just needs to ignore everyone else just to be polite.
:lmao:

Oh come on, you think that these guys are like Walmart greeters and just saying hi to every person that passes them on the sidewalk all day to be friendly? Do you think it's even reasonable to say hi to everyone you see in a big city?

I grew up in the suburbs/rural area in Middle America. I always lamented the loss of civility and rudeness in areas like NYC. I looked down on them for being rude and selfish. Then I actually went to NYC for the first time and realized just how many freaking people there are there. If I tried to be polite and say hi to everyone I walked past, I'd not only look like a lunatic, I'd be exhausted in about 5 minutes. Hihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihi. So you put a smile on your face and if someone makes eye contact and smiles back you give a polite "hi" or head nod or something. If you take the time to single someone out that has showed no interest in you at all and hasn't even acknowledged you, and say something to them, it becomes very personal and a simple "hi" takes on more meaning.

 
Who considers a simple greeting like "Hello" or "Good morning" as harassment? Oh wait. I forgot that this was NYC and it's uncommon for people to acknowledge other people there.

 
Who considers a simple greeting like "Hello" or "Good morning" as harassment? Oh wait. I forgot that this was NYC and it's uncommon for people to acknowledge other people there.
Don't be daft - you know damn well those are not polite 'Hello's' and are in fact sexual advances.

 
I saw a bunch of guys who were truly wondering how she was doing. She seems to be anti-social. :shrug:
Somebody posted this on FB and the overwhelming majority of the replies were women saying how the majority of the men were NOT over the line and the girl in the vid came off bad.
I saw the opposite on my feed. My response is (and I never do this crap anyway) just don't comment on a woman's appearance, and don't even say hi unless you get a friendly glance. Women should not have to endure what this woman went through on this video, and let's face it, saying hi or good evening to a woman on the street doesn't do the man any good 99.9% of the time. So just stop, ignore women you don't know unless it's a social situation and you have a signal.
This is awful. I get there are a lot of dooshes out there, but are we really turning into a society that just needs to ignore everyone else just to be polite.
:lmao:

Oh come on, you think that these guys are like Walmart greeters and just saying hi to every person that passes them on the sidewalk all day to be friendly? Do you think it's even reasonable to say hi to everyone you see in a big city?

I grew up in the suburbs/rural area in Middle America. I always lamented the loss of civility and rudeness in areas like NYC. I looked down on them for being rude and selfish. Then I actually went to NYC for the first time and realized just how many freaking people there are there. If I tried to be polite and say hi to everyone I walked past, I'd not only look like a lunatic, I'd be exhausted in about 5 minutes. Hihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihi. So you put a smile on your face and if someone makes eye contact and smiles back you give a polite "hi" or head nod or something. If you take the time to single someone out that has showed no interest in you at all and hasn't even acknowledged you, and say something to them, it becomes very personal and a simple "hi" takes on more meaning.
I'm not talking about these dooshes. I'm speaking to Clifford's post that says we should all look at our feet and not say anything to anyone unless we get clear signals. That is stupid.

 
I know it sounds innocent to all of us guys, but we don't know what it feels like to have people calling out to you or get that close to your personal space constantly. She should have stabbed that creeper.

For us to even come close to this feeling.

Imagine walking down the street and having dozens of gay dudes screaming out Hey handsome, Yo Yo DAM! or getting in your personal space for a few minutes.

I know, you would probably be flattered but christ after 5-10-20 years of the same crap you can't help but feel intimidated, scared, threatened or just plain annoyed.
I traveled a lot in Africa and what she felt is exactly what it's like for a white guy there. Constantly having people give you a fake friendly 'Hello' and if you acknowledge them they start to follow you. You never know when they are going to go away or if they have a plan to drag you into an alley to beat up and rob you. It's not sexual, but I know exactly what she feels like.

 
I saw a bunch of guys who were truly wondering how she was doing. She seems to be anti-social. :shrug:
Somebody posted this on FB and the overwhelming majority of the replies were women saying how the majority of the men were NOT over the line and the girl in the vid came off bad.
I saw the opposite on my feed. My response is (and I never do this crap anyway) just don't comment on a woman's appearance, and don't even say hi unless you get a friendly glance. Women should not have to endure what this woman went through on this video, and let's face it, saying hi or good evening to a woman on the street doesn't do the man any good 99.9% of the time. So just stop, ignore women you don't know unless it's a social situation and you have a signal.
:goodposting:

 
Little does she know that she also makes an appearance on the "What 10 hours of NYC pedestrians walking out in front of my bicycle looks like" video.

 
I saw a bunch of guys who were truly wondering how she was doing. She seems to be anti-social. :shrug:
Somebody posted this on FB and the overwhelming majority of the replies were women saying how the majority of the men were NOT over the line and the girl in the vid came off bad.
I saw the opposite on my feed. My response is (and I never do this crap anyway) just don't comment on a woman's appearance, and don't even say hi unless you get a friendly glance. Women should not have to endure what this woman went through on this video, and let's face it, saying hi or good evening to a woman on the street doesn't do the man any good 99.9% of the time. So just stop, ignore women you don't know unless it's a social situation and you have a signal.
This is awful. I get there are a lot of dooshes out there, but are we really turning into a society that just needs to ignore everyone else just to be polite.
:lmao:

Oh come on, you think that these guys are like Walmart greeters and just saying hi to every person that passes them on the sidewalk all day to be friendly? Do you think it's even reasonable to say hi to everyone you see in a big city?

I grew up in the suburbs/rural area in Middle America. I always lamented the loss of civility and rudeness in areas like NYC. I looked down on them for being rude and selfish. Then I actually went to NYC for the first time and realized just how many freaking people there are there. If I tried to be polite and say hi to everyone I walked past, I'd not only look like a lunatic, I'd be exhausted in about 5 minutes. Hihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihi. So you put a smile on your face and if someone makes eye contact and smiles back you give a polite "hi" or head nod or something. If you take the time to single someone out that has showed no interest in you at all and hasn't even acknowledged you, and say something to them, it becomes very personal and a simple "hi" takes on more meaning.
I'm not talking about these dooshes. I'm speaking to Clifford's post that says we should all look at our feet and not say anything to anyone unless we get clear signals. That is stupid.
I'm saying why bother.

 
I don't think even one of those guys thought they had a chance. They are just being cheesy, and at times aggressive, because they seem bored and have nothing better to do.

 
The guy who followed her for 5 minutes was creepy as hell and that is unacceptable. I'll even say the people who were vulgar ("DAMN!") were totally inappropriate, but what is the difference between harassment and flirting? I mean good grief.
He seemed like an alright guy. Maybe he noticed the hidden camera in the backpack of the creepy guy walking in front of her and he was just making sure she was safe.

 
Many of the people were just being polite. This is a very good illustration of how offense cannot be given, it can only be taken. When you go out looking to be offended, you will be. If you go out looking for people smiling, you will find those too.
I'm going to guess those guys weren't being polite to:

other guys

older women

less attractive women

So once we narrow it down to the subset of poeple they were being polite and friendly and complimentary toward, it looks a little less magnanimous.
I'm one of those guys and I'm "polite" to older and less attractive women. Can't help you with the guys though....don't really acknowledge them with anything more than the "knowing nod" or a firm "S'up". If they look like punks, I'll add Son to the "S'up".

 
Who considers a simple greeting like "Hello" or "Good morning" as harassment? Oh wait. I forgot that this was NYC and it's uncommon for people to acknowledge other people there.
Don't be daft - you know damn well those are not polite 'Hello's' and are in fact sexual advances.
By that definition, almost every successful relationship in history started with an impolite sexual advance.

 
I saw a bunch of guys who were truly wondering how she was doing. She seems to be anti-social. :shrug:
Somebody posted this on FB and the overwhelming majority of the replies were women saying how the majority of the men were NOT over the line and the girl in the vid came off bad.
I saw the opposite on my feed. My response is (and I never do this crap anyway) just don't comment on a woman's appearance, and don't even say hi unless you get a friendly glance. Women should not have to endure what this woman went through on this video, and let's face it, saying hi or good evening to a woman on the street doesn't do the man any good 99.9% of the time. So just stop, ignore women you don't know unless it's a social situation and you have a signal.
This is awful. I get there are a lot of dooshes out there, but are we really turning into a society that just needs to ignore everyone else just to be polite.
:lmao:

Oh come on, you think that these guys are like Walmart greeters and just saying hi to every person that passes them on the sidewalk all day to be friendly? Do you think it's even reasonable to say hi to everyone you see in a big city?

I grew up in the suburbs/rural area in Middle America. I always lamented the loss of civility and rudeness in areas like NYC. I looked down on them for being rude and selfish. Then I actually went to NYC for the first time and realized just how many freaking people there are there. If I tried to be polite and say hi to everyone I walked past, I'd not only look like a lunatic, I'd be exhausted in about 5 minutes. Hihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihi. So you put a smile on your face and if someone makes eye contact and smiles back you give a polite "hi" or head nod or something. If you take the time to single someone out that has showed no interest in you at all and hasn't even acknowledged you, and say something to them, it becomes very personal and a simple "hi" takes on more meaning.
I'm not talking about these dooshes. I'm speaking to Clifford's post that says we should all look at our feet and not say anything to anyone unless we get clear signals. That is stupid.
I can't remember the last time I actually said something to a stranger as they walked by on the sidewalk. I make eye contact and smile from time to time, but I've never said anything unless it's holding a door or getting on an elevator.

 
Who considers a simple greeting like "Hello" or "Good morning" as harassment? Oh wait. I forgot that this was NYC and it's uncommon for people to acknowledge other people there.
Don't be daft - you know damn well those are not polite 'Hello's' and are in fact sexual advances.
a guy can't try to get laid anymore?
By bothering women on the street? No.
Where's a good place to bother them?

 
Who considers a simple greeting like "Hello" or "Good morning" as harassment? Oh wait. I forgot that this was NYC and it's uncommon for people to acknowledge other people there.
Don't be daft - you know damn well those are not polite 'Hello's' and are in fact sexual advances.
a guy can't try to get laid anymore?
By bothering women on the street? No.
Where's a good place to bother them?
Once they're in the bar, it's fair game to say whatever you want to them. Maybe even cop a feel if they're giving off the right signals.
 
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Who considers a simple greeting like "Hello" or "Good morning" as harassment? Oh wait. I forgot that this was NYC and it's uncommon for people to acknowledge other people there.
Don't be daft - you know damn well those are not polite 'Hello's' and are in fact sexual advances.
a guy can't try to get laid anymore?
By bothering women on the street? No.
Where's a good place to bother them?
National Organization for Women meetings.

Good woman to man ratio there.

 
I saw a bunch of guys who were truly wondering how she was doing. She seems to be anti-social. :shrug:
Somebody posted this on FB and the overwhelming majority of the replies were women saying how the majority of the men were NOT over the line and the girl in the vid came off bad.
I saw the opposite on my feed. My response is (and I never do this crap anyway) just don't comment on a woman's appearance, and don't even say hi unless you get a friendly glance. Women should not have to endure what this woman went through on this video, and let's face it, saying hi or good evening to a woman on the street doesn't do the man any good 99.9% of the time. So just stop, ignore women you don't know unless it's a social situation and you have a signal.
This is awful. I get there are a lot of dooshes out there, but are we really turning into a society that just needs to ignore everyone else just to be polite.
:lmao:

Oh come on, you think that these guys are like Walmart greeters and just saying hi to every person that passes them on the sidewalk all day to be friendly? Do you think it's even reasonable to say hi to everyone you see in a big city?

I grew up in the suburbs/rural area in Middle America. I always lamented the loss of civility and rudeness in areas like NYC. I looked down on them for being rude and selfish. Then I actually went to NYC for the first time and realized just how many freaking people there are there. If I tried to be polite and say hi to everyone I walked past, I'd not only look like a lunatic, I'd be exhausted in about 5 minutes. Hihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihi. So you put a smile on your face and if someone makes eye contact and smiles back you give a polite "hi" or head nod or something. If you take the time to single someone out that has showed no interest in you at all and hasn't even acknowledged you, and say something to them, it becomes very personal and a simple "hi" takes on more meaning.
I'm not talking about these dooshes. I'm speaking to Clifford's post that says we should all look at our feet and not say anything to anyone unless we get clear signals. That is stupid.
I can't remember the last time I actually said something to a stranger as they walked by on the sidewalk. I make eye contact and smile from time to time, but I've never said anything unless it's holding a door or getting on an elevator.
You don't give out high fives at random intervals? Huh.

 
Definitely a lot of creeps out there but some of those "cat calls" were guys saying "have a nice day". I don't think that should qualify as harassment.
Have a nice day does not. But again, if you walk past someone and don't reply, you never know when they take offense and start to yell at you because you are a #####. A female as to worry about both acknowledging and not acknowledging the behavior in fear that she "slighted" someone. And it happens, don't say it doesn't.
Fine but the video says that she is harassed 100 times and I didn't see the guys saying "have a nice day" taking offense and yelling at her. I understand that attractive women can be put in difficult situations but it doesn't necessarily make it harassment.

 
Who considers a simple greeting like "Hello" or "Good morning" as harassment? Oh wait. I forgot that this was NYC and it's uncommon for people to acknowledge other people there.
Don't be daft - you know damn well those are not polite 'Hello's' and are in fact sexual advances.
a guy can't try to get laid anymore?
By bothering women on the street? No.
We really should restrict the areas where people are allowed to make sexual advances to certain pre-approved locations and websites. Criminalize the rest of it.

 
Sexual Harassment

Different from sexual assault, sexual harassment is any unwanted sexual advance, comment, attention, gesture or behavior. Sexual harassment can be verbal, non-verbal or physical.
Hey is not a sexual comment.If you offered it to Sarah Jessica Parker you could be arrested for solicitation. Clearly offering her a thing of value for the implied act.

Of course Woz could get you off of that trumped up bull#### charge with his eyes closed, but not before you suffered the embarrassment of being outed as a equine fetishist.

 
Definitely a lot of creeps out there but some of those "cat calls" were guys saying "have a nice day". I don't think that should qualify as harassment.
Have a nice day does not. But again, if you walk past someone and don't reply, you never know when they take offense and start to yell at you because you are a #####. A female as to worry about both acknowledging and not acknowledging the behavior in fear that she "slighted" someone. And it happens, don't say it doesn't.
Fine but the video says that she is harassed 100 times and I didn't see the guys saying "have a nice day" taking offense and yelling at her. I understand that attractive women can be put in difficult situations but it doesn't necessarily make it harassment.
No, they didn't. Comments and being shouted at are still unwanted. But if you take the "Have a nice day" comments out, there would still be a lot of other.

So you understand the situation maybe difficult but you don't understand how it could feel like harassment? Why should women have to put up with the situations in the first place?

Sexual Harassment

Different from sexual assault, sexual harassment is any unwanted sexual advance, comment, attention, gesture or behavior. Sexual harassment can be verbal, non-verbal or physical.
Hey is not a sexual comment.

If you offered it to Sarah Jessica Parker you could be arrested for solicitation. Clearly offering her a thing of value for the implied act.

Of course Woz could get you off of that trumped up bull#### charge with his eyes closed, but not before you suffered the embarrassment of being outed as a equine fetishist.
Hey is not a sexual comment. Hey with the suggestive tone and leer is. These men were not simply just saying "Hi" with a polite nod of their heads.

 
So you understand the situation maybe difficult but you don't understand how it could feel like harassment? Why should women have to put up with the situations in the first place?
Because promoting procreation has more societal utility than preventing any and all unwanted sexual advances.

 
There is no need for the "hey" or the "HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYY" as a guy is undressing a woman. Does this actually work? If all I had to do was was cat call women with my tongue hanging out grabbing my junk...I was trying way to hard I guess.

If a guy says hello to a random woman on the street I would bet it has something to do with getting / hoping to get laid.

It is not the same "hello" in the elevator were it is awkward and you do the nervous smile thing, as these guys are doing to a stranger walking down the street.

Saying hello to a person, and saying hello with your tongue licking your lips and thrusting your hips "dry hunching" someone is not the same thing. Maybe it is ? I have been out of the game way to long.

 

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