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Footballguy
Texas guys getting a little touchy here. 
I wish they would document whether Young is just stupid vs. having a learning disability. People with LD aren't stupid.
I wish they would document whether Young is just stupid vs. having a learning disability. People with LD aren't stupid.
cowboyz
Footballguy
even if he has a learning disability, do you want a qb to have that?maybe the reason why he's so good in clutch situations is because he's too stupid to understand the gravity of the situation.Texas guys getting a little touchy here.
I wish they would document whether Young is just stupid vs. having a learning disability. People with LD aren't stupid.
We need to know which 6 he got right because he could very well be so stupid that he got zero correct and lucked into getting 6 of the multiple choice questions correct. I will bet that if he missed all of the 1st 10 questions, that he scored a zero because it gets progressively harder.
Vince Young's true Wonderlic score is less than 6. GUARANTEED.
Vince Young's true Wonderlic score is less than 6. GUARANTEED.
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Footballguy
If, for example, he were dyslexic, how would that affect his play on the field? The vast majority of people with LD (of which dyslexia is only one type) have average or better intelligence. There are workarounds for dyslexia and so forth. He may have above average auditory memory as a compensation for a reading problem, etc. I think it makes a huge difference.even if he has a learning disability, do you want a qb to have that?maybe the reason why he's so good in clutch situations is because he's too stupid to understand the gravity of the situation.Texas guys getting a little touchy here.
I wish they would document whether Young is just stupid vs. having a learning disability. People with LD aren't stupid.
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
This is stuff you should know in the 6th grade. He is either mentally ######ed or filled out the answer sheet in the shape of a surfboard like Jeff Spicoli.
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
I say he drops to the Raiders. Art Shell can just buy him a Randy Moss Fathead poster instead of burdening him with a playbook.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
I guess he had to be able to write his name on the test
Koya
Footballguy
That would be about right. I dont think anyway claimed Young has Vick type explosive speed. He has a very fluid and controlled motion while running, but I wouldnt think it faster than 4.5. In addition, he is not uber quick, ala Vick but can really move once he starts to get chugging.
fatness
Footballguy
If the NFL doesn't release Wonderlic results, why do we know them all from last year? And why are some of them (Vince Young and others) reported already for this year? Just leaks?
There are several reported in this article: Packer Insider article
There are several reported in this article: Packer Insider article
matuski
Footballguy
You would appear to be the first level-headed defender of VY.. I agree with what you posted regarding fluid and controlled running. He is a stud athlete.I disagree when you say noone has made the claims regarding his speed... every other post is about VY being quicker, faster, and stronger than Vick. Ridiculous.
So it appears by the numbers we should now say he is slower and dumber than Vick... the strength/throwing area is where he can redeem himself - ERRR no wait he isn't going to throw! Haha good stuff.
My source is a shaky memory, but I remember seeing a show on ESPN in which an outside service perfomed a version of the Myers-Briggs test (personality traits) on prospective qb's. They went through under and over-achieving players to show the accuracy of the test. The test has 16 components with four outcomes.
They used Manning and Leaf as an example. Peyton, as well as Montana, had the number one personality style, while Ryan was near the bottom. I have read in this thread that Manning had a 28 on the Wonderlic and Leaf a 27. I would assume from these numbers that the leadership/personality score would be the better indicator for NFL success.
"If" Vince's score is a result of a learning disability his achievement of overcoming the disability is a major accomplishment. If he has a disability he would have, by law, received certain advantages at Texas. If he recieved advantages at Texas because he was a football player, then shame on the school.
They used Manning and Leaf as an example. Peyton, as well as Montana, had the number one personality style, while Ryan was near the bottom. I have read in this thread that Manning had a 28 on the Wonderlic and Leaf a 27. I would assume from these numbers that the leadership/personality score would be the better indicator for NFL success.
"If" Vince's score is a result of a learning disability his achievement of overcoming the disability is a major accomplishment. If he has a disability he would have, by law, received certain advantages at Texas. If he recieved advantages at Texas because he was a football player, then shame on the school.
Koya
Footballguy
Fair enough - perhaps too many do think VY can do things that he really can not. I am not really a defender of him. He has great skills, but I have seen far too little to have confidence that he can perform as an NFL QB. Wonderful athlete, but I do not know if his athletic gifts are suited for the NFL, and if indeed he has this much trouble processing information, that would be a disaster at the NFL level for a QB in today's game.
Koya
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Perhaps because two of the three most important aspects of being a successful NFL QB - intelligence and the ability to lead a team at the NFL level - are not at all known. An NFL QB has to lead in a different way, and part of that is having a complete understanding of what is going on out on the field. If Vince has a great arm, great legs, but not the ability to comprehend the game, the defensive schemes, the huge playbooks, weekly gameplans, then I do not see how he can succeed as a QB.
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
Texasmouth
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It has not been reported by any official agency or news group that VY scored a 6. It has been reported by the trash tabloid magazine of football websites. Until is comes from a legitimate source, it is all BS.
As for the Vick comparisons, anyone who compares Young to Vick doesn't know what they are talking about. He is no where near a Vick type QB. Yes, he scrambles, but he is 6'5" and 225 lbs. A 4.5 40 at that size is unreal. He is much more comparable to Randall Cunningham than Mike Vick any day.
The Anti-Texas/anti-Cowboys bias is just a result of your jealousy. I don't blame you all though, if I were from somewhere other than Texas, or someone other than a Longhorns fan, I would be jealous too.
As for the Vick comparisons, anyone who compares Young to Vick doesn't know what they are talking about. He is no where near a Vick type QB. Yes, he scrambles, but he is 6'5" and 225 lbs. A 4.5 40 at that size is unreal. He is much more comparable to Randall Cunningham than Mike Vick any day.
The Anti-Texas/anti-Cowboys bias is just a result of your jealousy. I don't blame you all though, if I were from somewhere other than Texas, or someone other than a Longhorns fan, I would be jealous too.
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
VINCE'S PICK-SIX IS CONFIRMED
We've confirmed that Texas quarterback Vince Young has indeed scored a measly six on the Wonderlic test, administered annually to the potential members of the draft class at the scouting combine.
Said one league insider, "It's also the number of the round he'll be drafted in."
There's a significant buzz in Indy regarding the ridiculously low marks. Though we're not quite sure that there's much of a correlation between book smarts and football ability, we've got a feeling that, of all positions, quarterback is the one that requires at least some basic cognitive ability.
Unless, of course, the offense consists of making one read and then pulling the ball down and running -- which is the very approach the team that drafts Young might have to employ.
Though the suggestion that Young will last until round six is an exaggeration, the thinking is that he lost millions of dollars via his poor performance on the test, and that it's now a virtual certainty that Vanderbilt quarterback Jay Cutler will pass him in round one.
We've confirmed that Texas quarterback Vince Young has indeed scored a measly six on the Wonderlic test, administered annually to the potential members of the draft class at the scouting combine.
Said one league insider, "It's also the number of the round he'll be drafted in."
There's a significant buzz in Indy regarding the ridiculously low marks. Though we're not quite sure that there's much of a correlation between book smarts and football ability, we've got a feeling that, of all positions, quarterback is the one that requires at least some basic cognitive ability.
Unless, of course, the offense consists of making one read and then pulling the ball down and running -- which is the very approach the team that drafts Young might have to employ.
Though the suggestion that Young will last until round six is an exaggeration, the thinking is that he lost millions of dollars via his poor performance on the test, and that it's now a virtual certainty that Vanderbilt quarterback Jay Cutler will pass him in round one.
Donnybrook
Footballguy
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Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
You know what they say... "Only two things come from Texas..."
Nobody is jealous of Texas, guy. That's not exactly a place people grow up dreaming of moving to.
Koya
Footballguy
Lose grip on reality much?I don't give a #### about college football. I am only analyzing a player in terms of how he will project on the NFL level. My guess is a lot of people here are in that same boat.
But, if it makes you feel better to think that people are jealous, and not looking at a legitimate huge issue with some guy you have a man-crush on, be my guest.
Texasmouth
Footballguy
National Championships and Super Bowls?You know what they say... "Only two things come from Texas..."
Nobody is jealous of Texas, guy. That's not exactly a place people grow up dreaming of moving to.
Texasmouth
Footballguy
This is the same stupid article from PFT. Thanks for sharing though.
How many rings do you,of those? Still waiting.National Championships and Super Bowls?You know what they say... "Only two things come from Texas..."
Nobody is jealous of Texas, guy. That's not exactly a place people grow up dreaming of moving to.
Capella
Footballguy
Those come from Florida too buddy. And California. And many other states in the union.But I am glad you're enjoying that first title in 35 years.National Championships and Super Bowls?You know what they say... "Only two things come from Texas..."
Nobody is jealous of Texas, guy. That's not exactly a place people grow up dreaming of moving to.
Texasmouth
Footballguy
Come on, the last part was supposed to be funny. Get a sense of humor.
I don't give a #### about college football. I am only analyzing a player in terms of how he will project on the NFL level. My guess is a lot of people here are in that same boat.
But, if it makes you feel better to think that people are jealous, and not looking at a legitimate huge issue with some guy you have a man-crush on, be my guest.
You cannot argue the fact that a legitimate source has not surfaced ont hsi story yet.
Texasmouth
Footballguy
There are other sports than football that award national championships. We have done ok in baseball as well.Those come from Florida too buddy. And California. And many other states in the union.But I am glad you're enjoying that first title in 35 years.National Championships and Super Bowls?You know what they say... "Only two things come from Texas..."
Nobody is jealous of Texas, guy. That's not exactly a place people grow up dreaming of moving to.
Texasmouth
Footballguy
How many rings do you of those?You're making fun of Vince Young? You haven't exactly mastered the language yourself there buddy......How many rings do you,of those? Still waiting.National Championships and Super Bowls?You know what they say... "Only two things come from Texas..."
Nobody is jealous of Texas, guy. That's not exactly a place people grow up dreaming of moving to.
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You said you live there,just trying to blend.How many rings do you of those?You're making fuin of Vince Young? You haven't exactly mastered the language yourself there buddy......How many rings do you,of those? Still waiting.National Championships and Super Bowls?You know what they say... "Only two things come from Texas..."
Nobody is jealous of Texas, guy. That's not exactly a place people grow up dreaming of moving to.
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Koya
Footballguy
True, nothing legit yet.But it is still something to kill time until Brunch. (awesome brunch too.Come on, the last part was supposed to be funny. Get a sense of humor.
I don't give a #### about college football. I am only analyzing a player in terms of how he will project on the NFL level. My guess is a lot of people here are in that same boat.
But, if it makes you feel better to think that people are jealous, and not looking at a legitimate huge issue with some guy you have a man-crush on, be my guest.
)Still waiting....You said you live there,just try to blend.How many rings do you of those?You're making fuin of Vince Young? You haven't exactly mastered the language yourself there buddy......How many rings do you,of those? Still waiting.National Championships and Super Bowls?You know what they say... "Only two things come from Texas..."
Nobody is jealous of Texas, guy. That's not exactly a place people grow up dreaming of moving to.
Texasmouth
Footballguy
I still have no idea what you are trying to say here???Still waiting....You said you live there,just try to blend.How many rings do you of those?You're making fuin of Vince Young? You haven't exactly mastered the language yourself there buddy......How many rings do you,of those? Still waiting.National Championships and Super Bowls?You know what they say... "Only two things come from Texas..."
Nobody is jealous of Texas, guy. That's not exactly a place people grow up dreaming of moving to.
Your broken english question made no sense. Are you trying to ask how many rings I actually have? stupid question. Like any fan gets a ring. Is that the best you can come up with? Yes,I have nothing sorry.You Texas guys are just way to smart.I still have no idea what you are trying to say here???Still waiting....You said you live there,just try to blend.How many rings do you of those?You're making fuin of Vince Young? You haven't exactly mastered the language yourself there buddy......How many rings do you,of those? Still waiting.National Championships and Super Bowls?You know what they say... "Only two things come from Texas..."
Nobody is jealous of Texas, guy. That's not exactly a place people grow up dreaming of moving to.
Texasmouth
Footballguy
True, nothing legit yet.
But it is still something to kill time until Brunch. (awesome brunch too. )
OK, I'll give you that. My man love for Vince Young aside, many other QB scored craptastic scores on the wonderlic and still did ok. Randall Cunningham got a 14, Dan Marino got a 15. Kurt Kittner scored a 30+. Who would you rather have? Kittner or Marino? Pretty easy answer there.....
But it is still something to kill time until Brunch. (awesome brunch too.
)OK, I'll give you that. My man love for Vince Young aside, many other QB scored craptastic scores on the wonderlic and still did ok. Randall Cunningham got a 14, Dan Marino got a 15. Kurt Kittner scored a 30+. Who would you rather have? Kittner or Marino? Pretty easy answer there.....
Gold Plated Nails
Footballguy
True, nothing legit yet.
But it is still something to kill time until Brunch. (awesome brunch too. )
OK, I'll give you that. My man love for Vince Young aside, many other QB scored craptastic scores on the wonderlic and still did ok. Randall Cunningham got a 14, Dan Marino got a 15. Kurt Kittner scored a 30+. Who would you rather have? Kittner or Marino? Pretty easy answer there.....
6 is just plain BAD
But it is still something to kill time until Brunch. (awesome brunch too.
)OK, I'll give you that. My man love for Vince Young aside, many other QB scored craptastic scores on the wonderlic and still did ok. Randall Cunningham got a 14, Dan Marino got a 15. Kurt Kittner scored a 30+. Who would you rather have? Kittner or Marino? Pretty easy answer there.....
6 is just plain BAD
Texasmouth
Footballguy
Actually we are way TOO smart. Not to smart.Yes,I have nothing sorry.You Texas guys are just way to smart.I still have no idea what you are trying to say here???Still waiting....You said you live there,just try to blend.How many rings do you of those?You're making fuin of Vince Young? You haven't exactly mastered the language yourself there buddy......How many rings do you,of those? Still waiting.National Championships and Super Bowls?You know what they say... "Only two things come from Texas..."
Nobody is jealous of Texas, guy. That's not exactly a place people grow up dreaming of moving to.
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Traders2001
Footballguy
You can tell when you hear him out .He is no brain surgeon.
Texasmouth
Footballguy
OK, I'll give you that. My man love for Vince Young aside, many other QB scored craptastic scores on the wonderlic and still did ok. Randall Cunningham got a 14, Dan Marino got a 15. Kurt Kittner scored a 30+. Who would you rather have? Kittner or Marino? Pretty easy answer there.....True, nothing legit yet.
But it is still something to kill time until Brunch. (awesome brunch too.
6 is just plain BAD
The report I read said that a score below 10 means the person is illiterate. If this is the case I think there should be a full investigation into the University of Texas. How can an illiterate person still get into college in this day and age? Culpepper had to go to a garbage school because he wasn't smart enough to get into a real college. He also took the wonderlic three times and maxed out at 15.
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