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I considered Ramsey, but he just hasn't been a complete bust and I still believe he can be a successful starting QB. Gardner's not even in the league anymore and Jacobs has done next to nothing besides play some decent special teams.If I knew back then everything I know now about Sean Taylor, I'd still take him with the 5th overall pick.
I don't know. Taking WR Edwards in the 1st was pretty bad. And didn't we take some OL in the late 90s in the 1st that didn't do ANYTHING. That's just my recent memory.
W/ plenty of Steeler bashing in other threads, I don't feel guilty in saying we could include a good portion of other team's rosters in players that were 'busts' in Cleveland. You have also stuck up for the Steelers in other threads, so I'll throw in the fact that Crennel seems to be just the guy to start turning that franchise around, which in reality is another recent expansion team and in memory of the original Browns, expectations may have been running a little high. AFC North should be a very good and competitive division in the near future.
I question Crennel's desire. A guy that has a burning desire to be a head coach in the NFL and gets passed over as much as Crennel has probably would have quit long ago out of frustration. Furthermore, when he talks, I don't feel that hunger within him. He's too happy - almost like he's just happy to be there. In some ways the Browns as a team act the same way, as if its rubbing off on the club. The Browns get embarrased 41-0 to the Steelers on christmas and now I hear many of the Browns (including Charlie Frye) are rooting for Pittsburgh in the Super Bowl. These guys EMBARRASED you - have a little pride in your work.
Were Cincy in the 'Bowl, I'd pull for them. There's something in the fact that YOUR division is represented by the NFL champion.
Pretty poor FA aquisitions as well. So we could argue that through the mid-late '90s that the 'Skins should not have drafted or brought in free agents.
If by attitude you mean muffed punts, missed tackles, and blown coverages WHILE having a bad attitude, then yes, that's what I mean.Dyson gets a free pass due to a certain "reception of a lateral and sunsequent score" in a certain playoff game.Woolfolk, I can agree with. Seems to me you're selling Jones short - unless you just mean his attitude. Kevin Dyson? (over you-know-who)Adam Jones....Andre Woofolk...
Jones did fine in the game I saw in Nashville - Seattle. I'm not defending him, but there's been worse. If he's the worst, you have a heck of a franchise. Must be nice.If by attitude you mean muffed punts, missed tackles, and blown coverages WHILE having a bad attitude, then yes, that's what I mean.Dyson gets a free pass due to a certain "reception of a lateral and sunsequent score" in a certain playoff game.Woolfolk, I can agree with. Seems to me you're selling Jones short - unless you just mean his attitude. Kevin Dyson? (over you-know-who)Adam Jones....Andre Woofolk...
Good point on Dyson.
Abercrombie never lived up to his potential was be wasn't horrible. Tim Worley was OK his rookie season but sucked after that.But Iwas going for a recent player. If we're going for worst all time then I think that honor goes to LB Huey Richardson in 1991.Tim WorleyWalter Abercrombie
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McKinnie had a very good year and seems to be "getting" it.Bennett wasn't too bad before he got hurt. His game was based on speed and he just doesn't have that "pop" anymore.
No doubt this is the correct answer for the Vikes. I remeber Nick Saban saying the Vikings `never even calling MSU and asking about him even though he sat out his senior season with an ankle injury. Saban told the press he would have warned them about him.Dennys answer was "it was a throw away pick anyway, we had 2 1st rounders this year anyway" What a terrible pick.McKinnie had a very good year and seems to be "getting" it.Bennett wasn't too bad before he got hurt. His game was based on speed and he just doesn't have that "pop" anymore.
Hovan, meh.
The guy you're forgetting about is Dimitrius Underwood.
Denny actually SAID that? Dude is the most overrated coach in the NFL.No doubt this is the correct answer for the Vikes. I remeber Nick Saban saying the Vikings `never even calling MSU and asking about him even though he sat out his senior season with an ankle injury. Saban told the press he would have warned them about him.Dennys answer was "it was a throw away pick anyway, we had 2 1st rounders this year anyway" What a terrible pick.The guy you're forgetting about is Dimitrius Underwood.
*sigh* Tim Worley that brings me all the way to my first Fantasy Football draft. I got a steal picking him that rookie year with my 4th round draft pick (10 team league)Tim Worley
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I got the immortal Stephen "Touchdown Maker" Baker of the Giants later that year as well. To say this wasn't the information age is an understatement: I got Dalton Hilliard off the waiver wire (and he proceeded to score 18 TDs making up for my stupidly picking Ironhead Heyward over him in the last round) and grabbed Sterling Sharpe a couple weeks later off the wire (his first year where he got like 13 TDs) and made the playoffs inspite of myself 
But I digress.I don't believe in that whatsoever. I want to win. I call into question the competiveness of any player who can actually get stomped on 41-0, see the opponents fans swarm their home stadium and cheer it on, and then turn around and root for THAT team in the super bowl two months later. If you are a competitive person, then you understand how wrong all of that is. If that stuff is acceptable to you, then you are not competitive. You either have it or you don't.
I agree with Reynolds, but I'm not as quick to cast aside Carroll yet. He did improve last year, and he came out quite young from a program that was less than big time. Keeping Lionel Washington around to coach the DBs was a good mvoe by McCarthy. I think Carroll will keep developing. I don't think he'll ever be a shut down corner, but he'll be an average starter int his league. Not great, but not terrible.
Jermaine Stephens gives Huey a run for his money....but Jermaine can't run. They both sucked BAD....Abercrombie never lived up to his potential was be wasn't horrible. Tim Worley was OK his rookie season but sucked after that.But Iwas going for a recent player. If we're going for worst all time then I think that honor goes to LB Huey Richardson in 1991.Tim WorleyWalter Abercrombie
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Yes, he did. I actually couldn't believe it myself when I heard it. It came well after they had to release Sybil and she signed with the Cowboys.Denny actually SAID that? Dude is the most overrated coach in the NFL.No doubt this is the correct answer for the Vikes. I remeber Nick Saban saying the Vikings `never even calling MSU and asking about him even though he sat out his senior season with an ankle injury. Saban told the press he would have warned them about him.Dennys answer was "it was a throw away pick anyway, we had 2 1st rounders this year anyway" What a terrible pick.The guy you're forgetting about is Dimitrius Underwood.
Jones cant be labled a bust yet. He played horribly to start the season, but he showed plenty of potential in the 2nd half. His attitude is a major concern though.Woolfolk....I still cant comprehend this pick by the Titans. You take a CB who strictly played zone coverage his entire college career, and put him into a man system...Jones did fine in the game I saw in Nashville - Seattle. I'm not defending him, but there's been worse. If he's the worst, you have a heck of a franchise. Must be nice.If by attitude you mean muffed punts, missed tackles, and blown coverages WHILE having a bad attitude, then yes, that's what I mean.Dyson gets a free pass due to a certain "reception of a lateral and sunsequent score" in a certain playoff game.Woolfolk, I can agree with. Seems to me you're selling Jones short - unless you just mean his attitude. Kevin Dyson? (over you-know-who)Adam Jones....Andre Woofolk...
At least they played. Mike Junkin- #5 overall pick never played a down.
