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Doesn't matter.. bottom line the dude is a problem child..What you interpreted and what Kaboly actually said are not the same thing.Kaboly reports Pickens threw Smith under the bus.. I def think Steelers will move him at some point, like they did with Chase, AB, and DJ
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I appreciate your post and thoughts. Indeed, they all were enrolled in a college at some point. Some peaked in college, some didn't. The top of Fields resume will always read "Ohio state QB". DJ Moore, Russel Wilson...those will list NFL accomplishments. DJ Moore was successful despite fields, it wasn't fields raising the tide....think of Moore's QB's - Newton, Kyle Allen, Teddy Bridgewater, Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield. and now Caleb Williams. Sadly Fields ranks only above Kyle Allen.
You are right. Very few exceptions like Mike Evans, Larry Fitzgerald, etc…
This is good info. But, Calvin Austin is 6'3" 200 lbs with Scotty Miller on his shoulders. Pickens could be Hines Ward reincarnated but he doesn't have the will. Both Tomlin and Pickens himself have said as much. While we don't get points for blocking, if he's off the field for 15+ snaps a game, that's a big problem. I was counting on Pickens to consistently get peppered with 10 targets, now I expect ~7.
I would fully expect that, but he has Fields as his QB. So it’s not a given.
Fields is killing all of the values of the WR's. He's a 'run first" type of guy. He runs at the first sign of a Defensive lineman.
They tried to get him the ball even when the game was no longer in doubt and they had no business passing, what looked ilke a concerted effort to make sure he got the ball at least a little. Was about the only encouraging thing that they are at least cognizant about needing to at least try and that's also not how you treat someone you are fed up with, someone in the doghouse.
DJ Moore has something to say about this falsification.
The exception to the rule? Yeah, it's still the exception to the rule.
No exception. It clearly disputes your claim. You have no other argument. The offensive system would clearly show a bit more evidence. What isn’t Moore doing with Caleb at the healm?
Only takes 1 catch, and Russ still has one of the all-time great deep balls.
But, hey, they're 4-2 so Coach T is gonna just keep on dino balling with Art until he can't dino ball no mo'! George should probably learn to block soon or he'll be lucky to get reps let along targets.
He has his job because he's connected.
Every week starter, for now anyway
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I just traded for Pickens last week so I'm as happy as the next guy, but this Twiddler has to put the pipe down.x.com
I just traded for Pickens last week so I'm as happy as the next guy, but this Twiddler has to put the pipe down.x.com
He's trending up, yet he's hardly cracking top 30 WR ppg right now. Let's pump the brakes for a few more weeks here.
Nico was between 80-84% snap participation before he got hurt.I just traded for Pickens last week so I'm as happy as the next guy, but this Twiddler has to put the pipe down.x.com
He's trending up, yet he's hardly cracking top 30 WR ppg right now. Let's pump the brakes for a few more weeks here.
I listen to beyond the box score where Jacob actually dissected this statement. He stated it was inflated by Pickens not being a full time player. He plays only a 75% snap share on the season which is lower than guys like Jameson Williamsons, Alec Pierce, or Michael Wilson.
Although he was still really high on Pickens.
Nico was between 80-84% snap participation before he got hurt.I just traded for Pickens last week so I'm as happy as the next guy, but this Twiddler has to put the pipe down.x.com
He's trending up, yet he's hardly cracking top 30 WR ppg right now. Let's pump the brakes for a few more weeks here.
I listen to beyond the box score where Jacob actually dissected this statement. He stated it was inflated by Pickens not being a full time player. He plays only a 75% snap share on the season which is lower than guys like Jameson Williamsons, Alec Pierce, or Michael Wilson.
Although he was still really high on Pickens.
Pickens has been between 79-81% in his 3 games with Russ so really not much difference.
Route participation is a better guide and I don't have ready access to look this up for all weeks but last week Picken's route participation was 87.8% and I'd imagine that's fairly close to his range with Wilson and Nico's range before he got hurt. So with respect to Gibbs his yards per route run vs Nico seems equitable.
What Pickens did with Fields as WR30 is not very relevant to me, not as relevant as being WR8 with Wilson and that's with multiple TD's called back(one with Fields as well, off top of my head he's had 3 TD's reversed this year and at least one more long pass). I would also point out he's been doing this in mainly all positive game script, no cheap come from behind garbage points. Of course a 3 game sample size is to small. But I'd think we've all seen enough at this point to know Wilson is good for him, his head is in the game and his standing on the team and central part of their passing game is secure.
I don't really spend a lot of time trying to decide if he's a WR1, WR2, top 20, etc,etc. I just know he's a very strong starting lineup option that would take an extremely strong option to sit. Feel great putting him in a lineup.
I actually traded him a few weeks ago when someone offered a middling dynasty team of mine Godwin and a first and second in 2025 for him. Those picks look late and I got regrets on that deal.
Him vs Terry for ROS as someone asked a few posts up? I'd prefer Pickens but it's close and when it's close with 7 weeks left in the fantasy season and Terry for sure to miss one of them that swings its a little more to George for me.
I was mainly making the case it's relative to Nico but I really think route participation trumps snap counts. But without paying for it I got to hunt harder for that data and assume most do which is why we focus a lot on snap counts which is more readily available info.Nico was between 80-84% snap participation before he got hurt.I just traded for Pickens last week so I'm as happy as the next guy, but this Twiddler has to put the pipe down.x.com
He's trending up, yet he's hardly cracking top 30 WR ppg right now. Let's pump the brakes for a few more weeks here.
I listen to beyond the box score where Jacob actually dissected this statement. He stated it was inflated by Pickens not being a full time player. He plays only a 75% snap share on the season which is lower than guys like Jameson Williamsons, Alec Pierce, or Michael Wilson.
Although he was still really high on Pickens.
Pickens has been between 79-81% in his 3 games with Russ so really not much difference.
Route participation is a better guide and I don't have ready access to look this up for all weeks but last week Picken's route participation was 87.8% and I'd imagine that's fairly close to his range with Wilson and Nico's range before he got hurt. So with respect to Gibbs his yards per route run vs Nico seems equitable.
What Pickens did with Fields as WR30 is not very relevant to me, not as relevant as being WR8 with Wilson and that's with multiple TD's called back(one with Fields as well, off top of my head he's had 3 TD's reversed this year and at least one more long pass). I would also point out he's been doing this in mainly all positive game script, no cheap come from behind garbage points. Of course a 3 game sample size is to small. But I'd think we've all seen enough at this point to know Wilson is good for him, his head is in the game and his standing on the team and central part of their passing game is secure.
I don't really spend a lot of time trying to decide if he's a WR1, WR2, top 20, etc,etc. I just know he's a very strong starting lineup option that would take an extremely strong option to sit. Feel great putting him in a lineup.
I actually traded him a few weeks ago when someone offered a middling dynasty team of mine Godwin and a first and second in 2025 for him. Those picks look late and I got regrets on that deal.
Him vs Terry for ROS as someone asked a few posts up? I'd prefer Pickens but it's close and when it's close with 7 weeks left in the fantasy season and Terry for sure to miss one of them that swings its a little more to George for me.
That 79-81% rate is still fairly low compared to other WR 1's and will still inflate the per route data of a #1 WR, most all of the WR's that are near the top have a lower snap participation rate compared to the other #1 WR's. Nico and AJ Brown are other examples of this.
I am a huge pickens fan and have a very large best ball share and have him in 1/3 redrafts and 1/3 dynasties. I am not trying to bash him, but put the per route data in perspective.
My statement was more about how it equated to true overall fantasy production thus far - although I realize these underlying and upwardly trending metrics indicate he should be able to finish as strong as he's been the last 3 games. Saying 'elite and wr6 overall' and comparing him to Nico, with regards to actual fantasy points being produced based on his stat, is something that feels a little sensationalized at the moment. But if this continue through the rest of the year and we have a bigger than 3 game sample size - sure I'd kill to have acquired a Nico-type.I just traded for Pickens last week so I'm as happy as the next guy, but this Twiddler has to put the pipe down.x.com
He's trending up, yet he's hardly cracking top 30 WR ppg right now. Let's pump the brakes for a few more weeks here.
I listen to beyond the box score where Jacob actually dissected this statement. He stated it was inflated by Pickens not being a full time player. He plays only a 75% snap share on the season which is lower than guys like Jameson Williamsons, Alec Pierce, or Michael Wilson.
Although he was still really high on Pickens.
Do you mean IF Wilson and Williams mean well? Or is there someone reporting that they are meshing well.
Which is almost equal to how many days of practice they had together.
