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They should try and upgrade the WR's and trade him if this is where things stand.
People are who they are. Terry McClaurin had bad/mediocre QB play forever and you didn't hear anything from him or about him. He just did his work with what was presented to him. Pickens is a head case and likely always will be...question is, do the Steelers want to pay him a boatload and HOPE he changes? I would be surprised if they do.
I agree with this a lot. Who cares if Pickens and DK overlap a bit. Having 2 good WRs beats having 1.
Sam Bradford will once they bring him in too lol
If they cant get a 2nd for Pickens, maybe its on draft night, but if they cant, at least keep him to the trade deadline. It might be a super great combo and whoever the QB is loving it and putting up numbers. If it is, you keep him around. If its a disaster, you trade him at the deadline, and get something for him. If he leaves in the offseason, you get a comp pick for him. He's gonna want a lot no matter how this year goes, and the Steelers arent the Bengals, they are never going to pay $60M+ to 2 WRs, esp when they still wont have a QB.
Looks like a third from Dallas.
Why are we thinking he'd be worth a 3rd compensatory pick? Asking genuinely as I don't know much about how they are figured out. From what I read though it's based mostly on APY salary, snap percentage, and post season awards/honors. While Pickens would tick the snap percentage box with an average of high 70s/low80s% snap share; his APY is super low as he's on a rookie contract, and I don't think he's had any post season awards. I know he ironically won the "Way to Play" award after the game he showed up to incredibly late, like an hour before kickoff. And ya know... a season full of unsportsman like conduct penalties....
Brandon Loree
ESPN NFL analyst @PSchrags on the #Cowboys trading for George Pickens:
“I’ve talked to the Steelers folks. George Pickens is demonstrative on the field, but he is not an un-coachable player. In fact he does have a great way about him in the locker room and is very well liked in Pittsburgh.”
(: Get Up on ESPN)
I don't know who Kurt Benkert is, but I need him to talk to my wife about how awesome I am.
"Could be in the same conversation as Justin Jefferson and Ja'Marr Chase."
Yeah, and I'm Ed Sullivan!!
Ahhhhh gotcha gotcha, that makes much more sense, thank you. Now I see the "could have just bit the bullet with the headache for one more year" side of things.
(as I replied in the Dynasty Trades thread as well…)
I got a haul for him last year. I'm in 3 leagues with one guy who had Godwin and after he got hurt in one of those leagues he traded Godwin and a first and second in this years draft for Pickens.
Won't know for a few years in that case. Egbuka is blocked in the same way that Pickens as when originally drafted. I'd still rather have the guy who's supposedly not a diva headcase than the one who was just traded by a team that has a history of trading away WR's that completely crap the bed once out of Pittsburgh.
Others may see it differently but to me it's a lot better then what he was looking at after they brought in Metcalf, status quo or maybe a little better from his situation last year.
Not great. Right now he's around McClurin, Aiyuk, Hill, Burden, Pearsall. His value will get a bump IMO with this trade, but probably not a ton because of Lamb being there. Might put him into the value range with Waddle, Olave, Moore, Golden.
Definitely a bump as his numbers were probably going to be very bad in Pittsburgh's Arhtur Smith offense AND behind Metcalf. He's a sell high on the enthusiasm though IMO. There are good arguments on why this is a big improvement but I would attempt to splash some cold water on that. Dak has only managed two 1K yard receivers in the same season once in 9 years with Cooper and Gallup in 2019 when he threw for a career best 4,900 yards. I'd argue Lamb is much more of a target hog now than Cooper was at that time. Maybe Dak can stay healthy for the year and bump his play back up to support two high level guys again at 32 but I doubt it. While they've got the space even with some massive contracts, no guarantee Pickens resigns with Dallas and if he does he'll always be blocked by Lamb who is only 26 years old.
Waddell Olave and Pearsall were names that came to mind for me to try to flip for. But there's been some decent arguments for Pickens being able to maintain comparable fantasy value which makes me want to hold for now. Just hate the idea of having to roll out 2 WR from the same team somewhat regularly.
Yeah I can see that. If you are a serious competitor for the ship, I'd debate keeping him. Or maybe push for Waddle, he's at least put up 2 really good season. If he stays healthy, I think he's a high percentage chance to get WR2 numbers, which is about what I'd say is Pickens ceiling on the Cowboys. Plus I'm a believer that Hill is on the edge of his cliff if not tipping over it already. His metrics were way down last year in a lot of key areas that would indicate it to me at least. So Waddles path to teams WR1 is at least in sight. Pickens likely never gets there with Lamb's age and now signed through 2028.
Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!
The Steelers also have an uncanny way of drafting WRs with questionable character. If they could solve that issue, they wouldn't have to trade them.
That’s… a really good point. lol
I got to say I've been thinking the past few days something that will be a very unpopular take.
Fellow Steelers fan, and what comes with that is probably a little bit of negative Tomlin bias; that being said, I have to agree. It's one thing to be a players coach; it has it's place and it's upsides. And realistically, when I was 30 years old, financially stable, and established in my career, I had expectations to be treated with more respect/autonomy than I was at age 20. I think that's where being a "players coach" comes in, or at the very least a realization that you have to handle things differently than coaches do who are in college and working with mostly teenagers.
This is what I was posting 3 years ago in this thread.
