ChatGPT translated Dak's comments as - "The dude is a freaking headcase and is going to implode before we insult him with a 2nd contract offer. But I have been paid so I don't really care"
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WR George Pickens, DAL (1 Viewer)
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joey
Footballguy
Will not be on a single one of my teams this year.
Pickens best value is when the Cowboys are playing from behind. Hopefully, that will be all season.
pinkstapler
Footballguy
I hate the "new" NFL for the fact that all I could think after watching that awesome handshake was "I dunno, their hands kind of looked like guns there at the end. That could be a penalty and a fine".
I like finding outlier/flag plants/bold predictions. Derek Brown at Fantasy Pros has him as (redraft) WR15 (+14 over ECR) and 35 overall. Some interesting notes in the write-up.
It is not clear if half PPR or exact scoring system.
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It is not clear if half PPR or exact scoring system.
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I’ll continue to update every player as we move through training camp and inch closer to Week 1 of the Fantasy Football season.
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Kevrunner
Footballguy
Pickens must be making a great impression with his teammates, the way they all come and congratulate him after this TD catch he had today, looking forward to a huge season from him.
Pickens Nice Catch
Pickens Nice Catch
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
My biggest fear is that the knuckleheadedness rubs off on Lamb.
The quote about their handshake & how they’ll definitely get fined for the gun-gesture bodes ill.
Fingers crossed.
The quote about their handshake & how they’ll definitely get fined for the gun-gesture bodes ill.
Fingers crossed.
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
you view them having a handshake together as a bad sign? Come on now. They are new teammates.
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TVT 0 N S T A
Footballguy
Training camp handshakes are for the fans and the internet. I don't see how Lamb can be the player he is and be negatively impacted by Pickens joining this team.
I think Pickens breaks the Pittsburgh WR transfer curse. He is such a complement to Lamb's game. If they find a RB on this team, they could be pretty nice. I don't think playoff wins are in the future but definitely could bode well for fantasy.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
He’s actually on my list of targets for a draft I have coming up. I dunno if DAL will try to keep him beyond this year though.
TVT 0 N S T A
Footballguy
Well, Jerry likes to wait until the 11th hour on his contract extensions and I think we can safely say... Jerry doesn't know if Dallas will retain Pickens beyond this year.
They did invest a decent amount in Pickens and I think he's worth of a 6th round pick in redraft. Looking at Gallup and Cooper early in Dak's career, both had 1000 yards. I think we can agree Lamb and GP are a more talented duo and they don't have Zeke back there toting the rock 300 times this season (nor anyone on the roster exemplifying the capability to do that).
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
He’s going in the 7-8 rounds in startup dynasty - that’s the value I have to estimate.
sheerterror
Footballguy
What other WR are you seeing go in that range?
I have a Lamb-Puka-Pickens wr corp with a cliff drop after that, and would like to diversify away from multiple Dal WR so obviously I need to see what Georgie boy could fetch in a 1 for 1 type of move.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
It’s a decent tier. TMc, Golden, (I took Chuba but I loaded up WR early), Pearsall, Reed.
I would have grabbed Pickens but he went 2 before me, so I took Chuba, and then Golden went at the turn so I grabbed Reed. Those two are a coin flip for me. I’m not interested in TMc at start-up ADP, but he’s probably a fine pick for a 3-year window.
sheerterror
Footballguy
Interesting. For the purpose of just this season I'd rather Pickens than the rest of those WR. Terry is an interesting one but there's uncertainty now with the trade req. I'm in a win now window for sure.
I would have taken Chuba there if I were you too
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Ended up with
WR - BTj, Garrett Wilson, Rice, Jameson, Reed
RB - Jacobs, Chuba and like 8 committee or next in line RBs.
What about Odunze and Egbuka - they along with Pickens and Golden are fascinating for this season. Are they all in the same range?
For 2025 I might go Pickens, Egbuka, Odunze, Golden -- but I want to put Golden ahead of Odunze.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
You can set some date ranges to see who’s going where. This is as good a resource as I have for ADP.
It was shared with me so paying it forward
Kevrunner
Footballguy
I just listened to a recent The Audible podcast, Sigmund and Matt Hardman discuss Pickens at the beginning, starts around the 1:05 minute mark. Here’s a link to the full YouTube episode. Just scroll to the 1:05 time mark and they will talk about Pickens for a couple of minutes:
The Audible Podcast - Pickens 1:05 Time Stamp
The Audible Podcast - Pickens 1:05 Time Stamp
Helaire-ious
Footballguy
Am I overvaluing Pickens in non-ppr dynasty? Guy keeps trying to give me rookie pick 2.05 for him. I also own Lamb so I'd like to move him, but not for free.
Same guy also told me his trade value is less b/c I have Lamb LMAO WTF?!
Orphan team I took over that needs RB help badly
Same guy also told me his trade value is less b/c I have Lamb LMAO WTF?!
Orphan team I took over that needs RB help badly
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Rookie pick 2.05 isn't enough in my humble opinion. I stopped worrying about having two wrs from the same team years ago. It's math.
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Trade value might be felt to be lower if the other owner thinks you have no choice but to trade him. That would drive the price down, like a desperate house seller. Some owners don't mind keeping two WRs from the same team, others assume one must be dealt.
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
I gave up Egbuka essentially but the crowd did not support that one.
They thought you overpaid? Or fleeced the other owner?
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
overpaid
Helaire-ious
Footballguy
I'd rather not keep 2 from the same team, but that doesn't make me want to fire sale any players. I still want fair value or I will start them both. This guy must think I am desperate to move him since I am shopping him. Joke is on him
Helaire-ious
Footballguy
I can see both sides of that deal. Fair trade IMO. Pickens has proven he can do it in the NFL. The rookie hasn't even played yet
Close to a fair trade, yes. Pickens has also shown his downside in immaturity and selfishness. Egbuka, I believe, is a solid character prospect.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I have Pickens as close to a 1st.
His past is irrelevant. He’s landed in a perfect situation, and his age/ability > perception about maturity.
Clean slate, lots of good press lately, videos of him gelling in this offense.
Think Amari Cooper in DAL, or Branden Cooks as the WR2
IMO a 2nd is a lowball offer. Needs to add a player or a pick.
Instinctive
Footballguy
I would give a second in an instant. No way I'd take one.
Helaire-ious
Footballguy
I just sold Pickens for McBride in that league
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Wow that’s a GREAT buy. Proud of you, son.
Dude who offered the 2nd probably getting a teaching moment in lowballing & missing out.
Helaire-ious
Footballguy
I couldn't hit accept fast enough. I read it twice to make sure I wasn't seeing things.Wow that’s a GREAT buy. Proud of you, son.
Dude who offered the 2nd probably getting a teaching moment in lowballing & missing out.
That’s a steal.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Please tell me it’s TEP.I couldn't hit accept fast enough. I read it twice to make sure I wasn't seeing things.Wow that’s a GREAT buy. Proud of you, son.
Dude who offered the 2nd probably getting a teaching moment in lowballing & missing out.
Even if it’s not it’s a steal.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Pittsburgh homer here. I have the same question.
IMO he’s a bit boom/bust.
If he catches a deep pass early, look out. If he’s not getting his targets he checks out, gets lazy, etc. and takes himself mentally out of the game.
doeseatplace
Footballguy
Yes to all those concerns. Sitting him for Diggs, I think
Have him in two different leagues and thinking of sitting him for either Mooney, Jennings (whichever is healthiest), or J. Mason in one league and or QB R. Wilson in a superflex league.
If he goes off on my bench at least that's a good sign of things to come.
Guy coming off an ACL who might be on a snap count? Not sure about that.
Look, it's week one and GP's on a new teams so it's unknown and nothing is guaranteed but I'm expecting a good to big game. This is not the Steeler's who are going to let him head into halftime stewing because he had 1 or less targets. I think they'll manage him better and that will include getting him involved early and if forecasting a game that Dallas would need to pass this seems like a good one.
Only place I'm not starting him is for MHJ and that was a tough call I'm still not sure about. But between Diggs and players mentioned in the post above this I would not be struggling with deciding.
How about in a superflex league where I can start any of these QBs: R. Wilson, G. Smith, J. Flacco, Stafford, Penix, or Darnold?
