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WR Henry Ruggs III (3 Viewers)
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TheWinz
Footballguy
OK, full disclosure
I am drunk off my ### right now. I just saw you posting at the speed of light and decided to join in
I think toxicology may enlighten people. I doubt he had two over limit and went 127 mph into that care. He was likely on something more.
TheWinz
Footballguy
Wondering - at this point is it possible he determines his life is basically over and tries to withdraw all the funds he can and hit the road? Not saying it's a smart decision, just that I would consider it instead of going to jail for the foreseeable future. Or is minimum jail time a possibility in his mind?
TheWinz
Footballguy
I'm just saying - If you gave me the option of trying to disappear as a fugitive with $10M or spending the next 10 years in prison, it's a no-brainer.
Hey @Blackbear, what’s your take on this situation? Would love to read some more of your thoughts on the matter. TIA.
TVT 0 N S T A
Footballguy
DocHolliday
Footballguy
At least Blackbear added some humor to this depressing thread.
Ruggs is never playing another down in the NFL again.
Ruggs is never playing another down in the NFL again.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
i've gone over 100 in every vehicle i've owned, that was capable of it.. in safe situationsBrunell4MVP said:
johnnycakes
Footballguy
I put the over/under on this guy’s prison sentence at 16 1/2 years.
EBF
Footballguy
I hope this doesn't come across as insensitive, because the real story here is the unnecessary loss of one life and waste of another.
However, I took Ruggs in a dev draft a couple years back. When the Raiders drafted him, I thought, 'Las Vegas? Not a great place for impulsive young athletes with a lot of new money.' Sure enough, this happens less than two years later.
I don't want to absolve Ruggs of personal responsibility. This sort of thing could've happened anywhere and he was an idiot to do what he did, but...Vegas is pretty much the perfect storm of temptation to create this type of situation. Not at all surprising, really.
However, I took Ruggs in a dev draft a couple years back. When the Raiders drafted him, I thought, 'Las Vegas? Not a great place for impulsive young athletes with a lot of new money.' Sure enough, this happens less than two years later.
I don't want to absolve Ruggs of personal responsibility. This sort of thing could've happened anywhere and he was an idiot to do what he did, but...Vegas is pretty much the perfect storm of temptation to create this type of situation. Not at all surprising, really.
Personally, I have done some stupid stuff in my life and am very lucky to not be in this situation or dead. I am not proud of it, nor bragging about it, but in my youth I have driven close to 100 mph, as close as my car would allow, probably and most likely at or beyond .16 on rural highway with the distinct chance of other cars and just as likely deer that could jump out in front of you.
It is entirely possible and, as the known facts are at the moment, true that he could drive 156 while being a .16. I would find it hard to believe that he hasn't driven that car that fast previously.
I pray for the family of the woman that was senselessly killed. Henry will have to pay his debt to society and has ruined a promising career. I will also pray for Ruggs and his family, he made a foolish, arrogant, and deadly mistake that will affect his family and himself profoundly. He will have to find a way to deal with the guilt of ending another persons young life and the guilt of severely affecting the lives of his family and children in an environment(prison) that can turn men into animals.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Be careful East Bay Funk, I was lit up quickly for reminding fans that many in the media were very concerned about Vegas having an NFL team. Not even that I myself felt that way, just reminding folks about the media.
I have since rethought my stance, there's ways to get in trouble in every town/city but I think I agree with you here.
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LawFitz
Footballguy
It's a matter of comparative margins. Compared to LA, MIA, NYC... Vegas is only marginally more sketchy for a young famous millionaire, if at all. Compared to GB, MIN, SEA and most of the rest of the league, Vegas is somewhat to a ton more sketchy for sure.
In this particular instance, I don't think Vegas was a contributing factor. Dude was drinking with his girlfriend at freakin TopGolf. That sequence and the over-powered car could've happened in any NFL city.
EBF
Footballguy
I see what you're saying and I don't want to lay it all on Vegas, but I've spent a lot of time there and the culture of The Strip and surrounding areas is very much one of indulgence/recklessness/living dangerously.
So even if you're somewhere random and harmless, you are still marinating in that lifestyle every day, surrounded by a general vibe of risk, flashiness, and danger. Put an impressionable kid in that atmosphere and it should only enhance the odds of this type of thing happening.
So while I wouldn't say this couldn't have happened if the Raiders were still in Oakland (plenty of temptation there as well), I think it would've been less likely. You can find trouble in any big city or really anywhere for that matter, but Vegas is notorious for drugs, drunk driving, and generally dangerous behavior. The culture there is one of showing off, beating your chest, and doing dumb stuff.
A 10 year vet can probably tune that out to a large extent. But a young kid with fresh millions in his pocket? Bad mix. It's still on Ruggs for not being smarter and safer, but it's not surprising that this happened in Vegas and not in...say...Buffalo or Green Bay.
There's a video girlfriend had posted showing Ruggs speeding in that car and seems like he had just recently bought it.
TMZ has video capturing car flying down road. Unfathomable someone would attempt that sober or drunk. The video after is disturbing with GF yelling for help for Ruggs while the SUV burns in background. I get what others say about a bit of empathy for Ruggs, and I really wish I could be a better person like Carr, but the more that comes out the longer I want him to be locked up.
TMZ has video capturing car flying down road. Unfathomable someone would attempt that sober or drunk. The video after is disturbing with GF yelling for help for Ruggs while the SUV burns in background. I get what others say about a bit of empathy for Ruggs, and I really wish I could be a better person like Carr, but the more that comes out the longer I want him to be locked up.
irish eyes
Footballguy
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
I agree with all of those things too but he deserves a lengthy sentence for what he did.LawFitz said:
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Rest In Peace Tina Tintor.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Tom Skerritt
Footballguy
I would be contemplating suicide at this point if I were in his shoes.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
....or he may be contemplating taking his money out of the country. Hire someone with a boat..
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Anyone think Ruggs may have done some Coke that night?
socrates
Footballguy
It will be interesting to hear more results from the toxicology report. Ruggs' behavior is extreme recklessness. I realize many athletes are also adrenaline junkies, but any even marginally-rational mind should have concluded that driving at speeds in excess of 150 mph on city roads in any conditions would likely not end well. It would not be surprising to learn that Ruggs was impaired by more than alcohol.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Fair speculation - Vegas isn’t exactly known for moderation. That said, I would think we would have already heard about it since he was blood tested upon admission at the hospital.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
My coke comment was a joke based on black bear saying it 500 times the page before.
ourmanflint
Footballguy
TVT 0 N S T A said:
YouTube is literally crammed full of DUI sentencing videos where the driver was going over 100 mph. None of the stories mention any other drugs.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Ah, somehow I managed to gloss over all of those posts….I may have tuned them out.
SDJohnny
Footballguy
https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-for-tina-tintor-max?qid=97a7eefec186beb972fc32b668e5e8ee
it's better to light a candle than to curse the darkness.
it's better to light a candle than to curse the darkness.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Oh god it was a golden retriever. As though this couldn’t get any worse, the sweetest, most lovable breed of dog. :(
ETA: thanks for the link. Donating now.
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SDJohnny
Footballguy
You're welcome friend. I've been in the weeds all week over this for various reasons. It's nice to take tangible action to show the family some support.
fatness
Footballguy
Henry Ruggs skipped a required alcohol test and will be back in court. https://www.fox5vegas.com/news/las-vegas-judge-orders-ex-raiders-henry-ruggs-back-to-court-after-missed-alcohol-test/article_b197ebaa-47ef-11ec-b59f-af5a65d1b47e.html
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Not joking when I say this but I typically assume most young folks don't know how to handle alcohol vs being an alcoholic because they aren't old enough or been drinking long enough to really form the disease but in this case perhaps Ruggs really is one.
I read a report that he drank 18 drinks at the Golf Shack where he was, who sells that guy 18 drinks? It's all on Ruggs but at the same time, their liquor license if that proves to be a fact, they should have it yanked immediately.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Only 3-10?
Chaka
Footballguy
It's manslaughter not murder.
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
seems very light for what he chose to do and the resulting death
Chaka
Footballguy
It's manslaughter not murder. Legally and practically it is a large distinction.
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
Might be worth a pickup in dynasties before 2027 season. He’ll be 27 when he’s released.
